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RS.Wedge
01-12-2006, 12:25 PM
I have been playing the Fly Tigers Campaign "When Tigers Could Fly". I am currently on mission 24 (by the way, how many missions are there in this campaign?)

I have not played any online. I am getting really used to and cofident with the P-40.

My question is how many of you use this fighter in online game play? (Of course putting uber skill level aside)Is it a reliable plane to go up against the average human pilot?

When I finish the WTCF campaing I want to start playing online, but I dont want to waste my time learning a new aircraft while online. If I need to pick up a different aircraft I want to be familiar with the fighter before attempting online play.

RS.Wedge
01-12-2006, 12:25 PM
I have been playing the Fly Tigers Campaign "When Tigers Could Fly". I am currently on mission 24 (by the way, how many missions are there in this campaign?)

I have not played any online. I am getting really used to and cofident with the P-40.

My question is how many of you use this fighter in online game play? (Of course putting uber skill level aside)Is it a reliable plane to go up against the average human pilot?

When I finish the WTCF campaing I want to start playing online, but I dont want to waste my time learning a new aircraft while online. If I need to pick up a different aircraft I want to be familiar with the fighter before attempting online play.

danjama
01-12-2006, 02:50 PM
Its a great plane for its period (up to 1942)

Siwarrior flies it, im sure he will let ya know..

VW-IceFire
01-12-2006, 03:35 PM
The trouble is finding a server that has the early P-40's available for flying. There aren't many that consistently do.

The late model P-40M is around most dogfight servers. Its competitive in the 1944 arena...but its still slower than most or all of its opponents so its durability and relative manueverability are its strong points. You CAN do well in a P-40M...but you might also be crazed to try http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TC_Stele
01-12-2006, 05:13 PM
I've been flying the P-40 only on the 334th Server for about two weeks and have had some good results with it in that environment. I try to use it as an energy fighter but if forced I'll get into a scissors match that has resulted in my favor most of the time. Altitude over any opponent is a must with the P-40 as I wouldnt depend on it as a turn fighter. It has fairly good speed and a good weapons platform that does its job nearly everytime. I like the plane a lot. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Siwarrior
01-12-2006, 05:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
Its a great plane for its period (up to 1942)

Siwarrior flies it, im sure he will let ya know.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Ok, the P40 can outturn most stuff, even a zero at its best turn speed of 320kph. The '40 dives well and takes heaps of punishment as you may know. I would recommend using the E or M because they have the best turn and speed over the earlier models. If you are versing 109s try to keep your speed around 300kph and remember that the P-40 rolls well, use that to change directions and turn.

When you are versing Zeros dont turn, extend away and gain your speed, you can outspeed the A6M-2/3 and I think the early 5 models.

The P-40 also does well against the Late war 109s as they are heavier and the P-40 can outturn them to an extent, I alwyas try to keep my alt and make diving attacks until the 109s climb away, then i dive in and start turning, dont try to climb after them.

I think the hardest 109 to beat is the G2 mainly because they can turn with you and are superior in every other aspect apart from dive and roll.

gotha_g.IV
01-12-2006, 05:35 PM
Real aces fly the il 2 3M. P-40? Nah!

Siwarrior
01-12-2006, 07:36 PM
P-40 owns il2s anyday http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

gotha_g.IV
01-12-2006, 07:37 PM
Not if you're an ACE like me! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

danjama
01-12-2006, 07:58 PM
Nubs!

mole_boy
01-12-2006, 08:55 PM
Australian Skies has an excellent desert war map with P-40s as well as tomahawks.

Xiolablu3
01-12-2006, 09:55 PM
Its hard work fighting 109E's in the desert in P40E's.

Ukdedicated1/2, Desert'41 map.

Brave men fly the P40E's and Hurri IIbs on that map http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

timsarg
01-12-2006, 10:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
The trouble is finding a server that has the early P-40's available for flying. There aren't many that consistently do.

The late model P-40M is around most dogfight servers. Its competitive in the 1944 arena...but its still slower than most or all of its opponents so its durability and relative manueverability are its strong points. You CAN do well in a P-40M...but you might also be crazed to try http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


we run our dedicated server with Nth Africa maps so there's your answer for p40's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Look for |450|Ded in hyperlobby

Siwarrior
01-12-2006, 10:44 PM
Those |450| guys are the best Kittyhawk pilots on HL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Siwarrior
01-12-2006, 10:45 PM
I find that P-40 E Vs 109E is too easy, its better with the Kittyhawk agianst the F2/4 or the G2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

danjama
01-13-2006, 06:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Siwarrior:
I find that P-40 E Vs 109E is too easy, its better with the Kittyhawk agianst the F2/4 or the G2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, that is why i have the P40E against F's and G2's in my desert coop (u know the one).

Also, i think i have a hatred for Chunder from 450 squad! he knows it too. bloody aussies!

Siwarrior
01-13-2006, 06:24 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif Chunder has a .22 and a filleted carp in his freezer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Vipez-
01-13-2006, 08:26 AM
Hey Siwarrior, nice to see you are using my owl http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Siwarrior
01-13-2006, 03:56 PM
Oh really? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Did you want me to take it down?

VW-IceFire
01-13-2006, 05:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timsarg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
The trouble is finding a server that has the early P-40's available for flying. There aren't many that consistently do.

The late model P-40M is around most dogfight servers. Its competitive in the 1944 arena...but its still slower than most or all of its opponents so its durability and relative manueverability are its strong points. You CAN do well in a P-40M...but you might also be crazed to try http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


we run our dedicated server with Nth Africa maps so there's your answer for p40's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Look for |450|Ded in hyperlobby </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I shall endeavour to have a stop by!

Xiolablu3
01-13-2006, 07:43 PM
Maybe I have the wrong P40 then, it may be the P40C I am thinking of, cos its definitely not easy on the desert '41 map against 109Es.

One of the early P40s anyway, and human pilots not AI of course.

If you think its easy then please stop by and show us how to avoid getting slaughtered by the 109E's in the P40's. UKded 1 or 2.

danjama
01-13-2006, 09:12 PM
P40B's and C's suck!

Siwarrior
01-13-2006, 09:16 PM
I recomened to only fly the p40C/B agaisnt early war planes othwise you will have a a very ard time against 109Es always try to have the alt advatage, other than that i can't give you anymore advice. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Xiolablu3
01-13-2006, 10:44 PM
Its the Tomahawks IIa and IIb on that map, I am not sure what P40 this is. Is this a P40B/C?

When all you have is the Tomahawks, Gladiators and Hurri IIb's versus 109E's and the Italaian Biplanes and G50's, the P40 seems the best I think. (If red win the previous map the they get a Hurri IIc as a bonus plane but of course its not always there)

I am always asking what the difference is bewtween the 2 tomahawks when that map comes up as they look the same apart from the paint scheme, can you guys shed some light on this please?

Siwarrior
01-13-2006, 11:03 PM
The Tomahawk is basically the same as the B/C but I think it is a british model. The Tomahawk MkIIB can carry up to 250lb of bombs or a droptank.

PBNA-Boosher
01-13-2006, 11:07 PM
P-40 Rocks. Dive with it, blaze your target, get away with dive speed, turn around and do it again.

Xiolablu3
01-13-2006, 11:14 PM
Just done some reading and I think its the Radio equipment which is different in the IIa and IIb, one has a US radio and the other a British. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

EDIT: I see from your post Sith, that one can carry bombs, does this mean the other cannot?

Siwarrior
01-14-2006, 01:41 AM
The P-40 TomahawkIIB carrers bombs as does the E and D, the IIB is the only early model that carries bombs

Xiolablu3
01-14-2006, 03:21 AM
Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif))

Siwarrior
01-14-2006, 03:35 AM
What is your online name?- i might be able to help ya out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Draughluin1
01-15-2006, 06:00 AM
The models, marks and versions of the P-40's can be pretty problematic, so heres a rough guide to them in Commonwealth service.

The Tomahawks are basically the equivalent of the P-40B&C's. The Kittyhawk series are the later ones. The American name for them is "Warhawk". Tomahawk IIA's were only in Britain, Dec, 40 for trials, maybe for recon as well. The Tomahawk MkIIB was used in Syria and the Western desert, through 1941 and well into 1942. Still being used by some South African units. The Kittyhawk MkI is the P-40D&E, No.3 Sqn RAAF being first unit equiped in Jan, 42. Kittyhawk MkII is a P-40F with a Packard engine instead of the Allison. Not in the game. Kittyhawk MkIII is the P-40K&M, delivered from about May, 42 onwards. P-40L was a lightened version, Packard engine, only 4 x 0.5 cals & not in game. Kittyhawk IV is a P-40N, looks slighly different around the cockpit area and again not in the game.

The P-40 series was a development of the P-36 or by it's export name of Hawk 75. The Hawk 81A-2 is basically a P-40B or Tomahawk IIA. The next part of the order was the Hawk 81A-3 (Tomahawk IIB). Many diverted to China and Russia. The Brits requested some changes which resulted in the Hawk 81B. Also known as the P-40C. These went to the USAF and many were waiting on the tarmac at Pearl.

Confused? Get in the cockpit and try to get the best out of it against a well flown Bf 109. That will get you confused! That is E's from April 41, F-2's from September 41, F-4's from December' 41 and G-2 from May'42.

Goodluck.

Vipez-
01-15-2006, 06:53 AM
P40 is probably my favourite allied bird for 1942/1941-rides, a well flown 109G-2 can give some headaches for P40M, but if you have the patience to begin the with altitude advantage it won't be a problem..


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Siwarrior:
Oh really? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Did you want me to take it down? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No no have fun with the owl.. it kinda started as a joke in a finnish humour site, and now its everywhere, kinda funny how it spread out .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bremspropeller
01-15-2006, 01:41 PM
The P-40 has the highest "ARRRR-factor" in my book http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif