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Tuba2004
04-11-2005, 09:57 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Well I am thinking about a new game computer. I am wondering if any one has experience with ABS Computer Technologies, Inc.
I am considering the M6 with 2G of Kingston Pc 3200 memory,& Two GeForce 6800 Ultra 265MB cards.
I am also interested in peoples experience with the company since the Better Business Bureau only has them rated 9th on a scale of 11. Also their prices for components don€t agree with each other when viewed in the configuring vs. the print out page.
Are there systems, other than Alien and Dell I should consider?

fordfan25
04-12-2005, 12:32 AM
well you may want to build your own. it is in fact not very hard at all. you can even order mobo with the cpu already installed. that way you know just whats in it and that every thing is of good qulity. its a fair bit cheaper as well.i almost bought a ibuypower pc but at the suggestion of guys in hear i went to a local mom/pop shop and the guy orderd all the parts i wanted and helped me put it togather. trust me there is nothing at all to it. tring to figure out how to oparate windows is tougher lol. ofcourse the great thing about buying prebiult is if something goes bad you dont have to worry about figureing out just what is wrong you can send the whole thing back.

as far as prebuilt goes if you have the green then go with ailenwear i have a few friends that have them and thay are impressive. dell and gateway are what i like to call throw away pcs. usem till there to outa date and then tossm and get a new one. there not nearly as upgradeble as one you build your self. my first pc was a dell.got it about two or three years ago.never had a problem with it but after 2 years it was needing upgradeing and after relising that the dell MOBO would only go from a 1.6 to a 2.0 ect it became aparint that it was a wast to try and upgrade. the real bumber is im still makeing payments on it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif . also dell has started out sorceing there tech suport to indeia and there about as helpfull as a bad case of the crabs. cant even understand what thay are talking about.

JunkoIfurita
04-12-2005, 12:58 AM
If that's the stats for the system you're considering, then I imagine ABS will build you a fine machine.

I also imagine you'll be paying over the $1500 American mark...

Personally I always build my own, but that's only because I get dealer prices on parts and know what I'm doing. I save ridiculous amounts of money that way.

But, as fordfan said - the lack of warranty on the whole machine can really blow up in your face if something goes wrong.

Everyone will tell you to build your own, and for the most part they are right BUT - if you have the money extra then I suggest you get the ABS machine, preferably with a 3 year warranty. That is if the rest of the rig is of the same quality as the RAM & GPU you mentioned. You might want to make sure you're getting an ASUS mainboard: they seem to be miles ahead in SLI setups such as the one you're considering.

Also note that by the end of the year, graphics cards with onboard 'Physics chips' or dedicated Physics Processing Units will probably be the norm. So, either way you're obsolete. Personally, I'd wait for the BoB specs before upgrading.

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Ritter_Cuda
04-12-2005, 08:46 AM
check out monarch.com good company
Cuda

depalmer
04-12-2005, 10:36 AM
Newegg.com sells ABS computers. It's cheaper anyway through newegg.com then AS direct.
If I was not addicted to building my own systems I would have no problem ordering one.

depalmer
04-12-2005, 10:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by depalmer:
Newegg.com sells ABS computers. It's cheaper anyway through newegg.com then ABS direct.
If I was not addicted to building my own systems I would have no problem ordering one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Woof603
04-12-2005, 02:46 PM
A little over a year ago I was looking for a new rig, cruised gaming forums on the net, and found horror stories re Alien and ABS service. They may have improved since then.
I bought from Falcon North West. Fairly expensive but I've been very satisfied with the rig they built and it's wide open for upgrades. Check them out at Falcon-nw.com http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.

ddsflyer
04-12-2005, 04:42 PM
You can build it yourself, use the same components as Falcon NW or Alienware, pay 2/3 as much and learn a tremendous amount in doing so. I built my first machine 7 years ago and would do nothing else. There are many people on this forum and others who would give you all the technical help you could ever need.

JadehawkII
04-12-2005, 06:23 PM
Yup..brand new puter here and guess what? My MOM built this one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif
It's her 6th build and runs sweeeeeeeeeeet! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif ABIT FATAL1TY AA8XE Motherboard, 1 GIG DDR2 RAM, ATI All-in-wonder X600 video card, P4 3.7 GHZ Hyperthreading Pentium, Western Digital 76.6 Gig Raptor hard drive running at 10,000 RPM, 550watts power supply all inside a Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case with 2 120MM, 1 80MM, 4 20MM fans keeping it all cool. That's my machine and I'm stickin to it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Point is, if you want to save money and get the best components, then do it yourself. It's not that hard just takes time when you first start out to get it right. But there are websites that help you build them too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

canucksledge
04-12-2005, 06:41 PM
Build it yourself! Spec it out onlinme, find your best deals and get everything you want. One word of caution. Don't pay too little heed to the antistatic warnings. Don't assemble it when it's freezing outside and hot inside on a pile carpet while petting your cat. Ground yourself to something while you work. Even the case if it's plugged in. Having popped a card or two in my 20 years in electronics, I can speak from experience. Otherwise, it's a rewarding thing to power it up the first time.

VF-3Thunderboy
04-13-2005, 06:03 AM
Will Physics chips plug into the PCI slot, or will you need a new MoBo???It never friggin ends!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

-HH-Quazi
04-13-2005, 06:21 AM
I've got $2000 tied up in a computer that would cost $5000 if I purchased it from a company. That's cool that your mother built that one. Consider building your own. I had never built a computer up until a couple of months ago. And I had all the help I needed with the Community Help forum m8's. But if you still want to purchase a pre-built rig, consider using a company that is owned by a m8 that actually plays this sim, www.magnum-pc.com (http://www.magnum-pc.com) A m8 by the name of Joe builds the gaming computers at Magnum-PC. He is one of the nicest, smartest people I have ever known. His experience would be invaluable and he is easily accessible to speak with. Whatever decision you make, good luck.

madsarmy
04-13-2005, 06:39 AM
Tuba
as most here say. Build your own rig. It's not that difficult nowadays. Most modern Mboards automatically setup ram,drives etc.
You will know your rig like the back of your hand & feel very proud that you done it.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JunkoIfurita:
Also note that by the end of the year, graphics cards with onboard 'Physics chips' or dedicated Physics Processing Units will probably be the norm. So, either way you're obsolete. Personally, I'd wait for the BoB specs before upgrading.

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Why wait? what ever you get & whenever you get it within a month or so something new will have made you new rig old hat http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

JunkoIfurita
04-13-2005, 09:08 AM
You're right about that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif - I just KNOW as soon as I finally upgrade to a 6800 Ultra PCI-express, some other fancy new card is gonna come out that blows its frame rate out of the water.

The only reason I'd consider waiting for a Physics chip is that since GDC 2005 Valve, id and Epic have all started coding support for the Physics chips into their engines...and if it means the difference between playing HL3 and NOT playing, and it takes me a long time to save for anything ^_^

I'm hoping they'll be integrated into the chipsets of graphics cards, so we at least don't need whole new Mobos.

To be honest, despite the killer money problem, I'm kind of hoping Maddox Games takes the Physics Chip route with BoB. It'd really help with some of the power drain that the dynamic weather system (Oleg: it will be like nothing you've ever seen) is no doubt going to hit us with.

Oy, this is an expensive hobby. Maybe I should get into something cheap, like getting a commercial pilot's license ^_^

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Dutch60
04-13-2005, 09:10 AM
My advice is:

1. Select the best hardware parts you want and can afford.

2. Let a system builder or integrator put the hardware parts you selected together.

3. Setup the BIOS settings, Operating System, Drivers and other software like Games yourself.

I did this with my new system that is in my sign and it works like a charm no IRQ problems no crashes or freezes and a hundred percent stable.