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73GIAP_Milan
10-09-2005, 02:55 PM
Ok,

Last night on HL i got drawn into a dare-to-fight together with Danjama and Bbloke after we got a bit sick and tired of a few morons around on hyperlobby. These guys were bragging about their skills in the Fw190 and how uber it was..this lasted until we took them into a server set up by Danjama and kicked tought them a little lesson.

MapleTiger and Megile were also joining in and soon enough it was for me one of the best games i have ever had online.
I am really thankful for you guys that it was so much fun, even though i feel i sucked bigtime.
- Note the hilarious moment when i shoved Megile 6 rockets from my P-47 in his face http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Priceless http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But once the fight was over and we got back to hyperlobby i was amazed by the high amount of total ******ed idiots it can hold. For NO REASON AT ALL - with Danjama and Maple as my witnesses, some guy started calling me names..
I have no clue if i have deserved that, but i muted this dude, but still i feel quite offended by this.

So much for good guys and the bad guys around. I really have the feeling that these badguys as i like to call them should be kicked or something, they are a total disgrace to the community and the game! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Thanks for reading this and thanks to the guys who gave me such a fun game last night http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

danjama
10-09-2005, 04:15 PM
Hey Milan i wondered if you would crop this up! We showed them didnt we!?! Those guys were idiots afterwards, just because they got whooped all over the Ardenned LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif That was a real fun game though. I think everyone enjoyed it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I host quite often u should out for me, i run coops (B17 intercept anyone) and also a P47 VS FW190 server.

73GIAP_Milan
10-09-2005, 04:36 PM
Oh hell yes we did http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Like i said last night to you guys; if you ever need a wingman, shout http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I really look forward to fly with you, Bbloke, Maple and Megile again.
I do not play online all that much as my comp overheats a bit easily atm and i am quite ashamed of my flyingskills as i find myself a pretty bad fighterpilot. But still it was great fun.

I should be better off with my rearend in an il2 or something but hey, even Megile said i did a good job ^^

And about cropping up.. well, i found myself pretty much baffled afterwards by the absolute impolite way some guys over at HL behave.
It is those guys that spoil the real fun.

I hope to see the others reply in here aswell http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Maple_Tiger
10-09-2005, 04:38 PM
It was a fun time - I agree.

Lol, I'm not all that good in an FW. I can sometimes hold my own. But I can bairly see out of it lol.

civildog
10-09-2005, 06:25 PM
Idiots abound. They tend to breed and multiply in the dark corners of the Net, and then swarm forth to plague the rest of us who play online. I find that there less of them in CoOps, though.

Lucius_Esox
10-10-2005, 12:36 AM
I wasn't privvy to your bit of fun (always a nice feeling to shut a loudmouth up though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) But just had to say some of the stuff you hear coming over t/speak, to me a least, shows the diversity of the human condition,,,, jeez there are some dumb f**** around http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

73GIAP_Milan
10-10-2005, 05:51 AM
Well,

I don't have Teamspeak or any voicecomms at all atm (hopefully in the future) so this was on hyperlobby through the chat only already.

I still have no clue what this guy was after but i am very sure that this incident is not the only. I have some experience with chatboxes on the net and i know what people can throw at eachother, but this was just for no apparent reason at all.

That is why i am so glad to see that the good guys are still around and be more then willing to team-up and shut a few of those ******s up.

I fly for my fun and not for any real competitive reasons to prove anything at all, just pure fun as it is all a game for me. And it sickens me that there are some individuals around who spoil it in ways like it happened last week.

Somewhere inside i feel that it might be nessesary to step up against these individuals in some kind of way. If they spoil the fun for others then they should not be allowed to have their fun in it aswell - to say it in a "fair" way. And i do hope that more people will feel the same about this as it is a part of the community and part of the whole experience that this flightsim brings.

nakamura_kenji
10-10-2005, 06:01 AM
i never forget someone anoy at me and start call me name for flying ki-61-i-otsu as i shot him down few time, he was fly p-38L late yes i big noob being 60mph slower >_<. some people just not nice.

I am not great pilot i have my moment sometime but never claim be i just try have fun and try enjoy being scare by fighting faster allied planes ^_^ if i get shot down i make mistake and my fault i move on try learn not do again. get large head girlfirend have be told to poke with pin bring me back down ^_^

jimDG
10-10-2005, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by nakamura_kenji:
i never forget someone anoy at me and start call me name for flying ki-61-i-otsu as i shot him down few time, he was fly p-38L late yes i big noob being 60mph slower >_<. some people just not nice.

I am not great pilot i have my moment sometime but never claim be i just try have fun and try enjoy being scare by fighting faster allied planes ^_^ if i get shot down i make mistake and my fault i move on try learn not do again. get large head girlfirend have be told to poke with pin bring me back down ^_^

Buhahaha http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

F19_Ob
10-10-2005, 06:31 AM
Unfortunately there are peolple that are truly bad to the core of their beings. Fortunately there are good souls aswell.

An online game is the worst possible forum for remarking, discussing or arguing because of its limitations IMO.
Personally I prefer to stay idle and avoid to participate in any argument because they always go bad (own experience).
Even well-intended remarks may be misinterpreted since discussion and arguing automatically makes people go defensive, even when there is no threat.
On a few occasions I have argued back but always regretted it afterwards.
If I have to write something in text I try to make it possitive and avoid negative remarks alltogether.

I also try to have an open attitude and recognize differences between ppl and cultures, wich is one cause of misunderstandings.
ppl are so different and have temperaments wich may make a good guy overreact and overdo his arguing and unintentionally become @sshatty.

My own brother has a fiery temperament.
When idle he is polite , honest and humble aswell as correct, but if someone acts bad against him or someone else he may bite.
Bullies he cant stand and those fires him up, especially when he sees someone else being harassed, wich makes him glow in the dark.
His temperament sometimes leads to him remarking errors perhaps to harshly, and he is no stranger to hars and foul language http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
When he and I fly alone on TS every second word is a curse, and swearing is his language when flying.
To me it's very amusing sometimes and even comforting to hear him in the background cursing messers and how the other team has superior numbers. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
Others though may get uncomfortable or scared (appalled), not being used to strong language, so sometimes I have to remind him that we aren't alone on the channel.
We are both Karelian Finns so swearing and cursing came with the mothers milk.
I'm the lamer of us and I sometimes regret I can't fire up like my bro. However I'm also glad I don't get in troblesome situations because of my temperament.

with this personal example I want to illustrate that good people may fault sometimes and why online flying requires a cool mind and a big allowance for errors aswell as understanding of the "different cultures" thing, and be able to read between the lines when necessary.

I use to think that if I can forgive others mistakes, they might forgive mine. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Humbly, your best m8 o.b

MEGILE
10-10-2005, 08:52 AM
S! Milan.. nice rockets http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif you nice? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

73GIAP_Milan
10-10-2005, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Megile:
S! Milan.. nice rockets http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif you nice? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Me nice?
I probably am, you might get to know if we fly along more often http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Only thing not nice about you is that you're constantly flying behind me.. Ok i can live with that, i have girls chasing me all around aswell.. But the shooting has got to stop http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

73GIAP_GSXR1000
10-10-2005, 12:48 PM
yes it certainly was fun (even though my flying skills sucked goatballs) i would be definately interested in the B17 intercept http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif i would be happy to fly on your wing anytime naa BULLSH*T you can fly on mine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif (80's film any one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

SlickStick
10-10-2005, 01:24 PM
Dang, BBloke got to go on an a*s*s-kicking mission and he didn't invite me?!?!?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Him and I make a living doing that regularly. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

My fav is when there is a "despicable" type flying around on a loose server, well, rather loosley if you catch my drift, and he accepts the challenge to "prove" his skill is not because he is a Time Bandit distorting the space-time continuum. I wish more would accept, but their mama's didn't raise no fools. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BBloke and I love to get them to come over to BBloke's server or mine, which is tighter than a gnat's a*s*s @ 3 secs, 3% and 1.0 or less MAX LAG settings, with all connects limited by server for connection speed and proceed to smack the snot out of them or watch them get auto-kicked for trying the same **** as they were just using on a server that didn't check for it.

Many know I am a heavy-duty anti-cheat activist who has extensive knowledge of what goes on around HyperLobby and I love nothing more than teaching other people what to look for. BBloke learned much about the early days of his server, be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Two of Slick's Top Ten Ways to Spot an Online Cheater:

1. With a 40mS connect, top end machine and reporting over 70FPS in-game, a certain bomber pilot always seems to fly perfectly straight, letting people behind pummel him with a gazillion 30mms, you never see the tracers that are hitting your plane and everytime he bombs, it's from 100m or less and he flies away undamaged EVERYTIME.

2. You have set your cheat messages in netmessages.properties to show the name of the offending pilot. You are watching the same pilot in #1 above in F2 view for a little, while he is dogfighting. You start to see a specific pattern develop. When in control or on offense, perfect connect, no stutters, warp, nada. The same guy begins to lose position or is on the defense and then watching him in F2 reveals the most massive stutter, warp, inverted sliding all over the place and three top Aces trailing behind him that cannot even land a shell and when they do, the warp causes the shells to be mostly ineffective.

Lag you say?? If only all of us were that naive, the cheaters would rule the day, EVERYDAY.

I've got news for ya, too. Full games are far worse because you can't even see it in F2 to watch the plane speeding up and slowing down constantly via Speed Gear. Some are quite adept at using SG tied to a hot key to SLOW down at key times, not speed up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

MEGILE
10-10-2005, 01:27 PM
I must be lucky.. for in all my years I have never seen a cheater. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SlickStick
10-10-2005, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by F19_Ob:
When idle he is polite , honest and humble aswell as correct, but if someone acts bad against him or someone else he may bite.


That's me to a tee. I give respect when getting respect, but when provoked I am quite relentless. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

I have always and will always calls'em as I sees'em. Two things I do not like in life...cheaters and liars. I fly a certain way because it is my idiom. Always has been, always will be.

I will use whatever the game gives me and nothing more. The day I have to cheat to look good online to some stranger will be the day I throw my stick in the garbage. I will always educate those who are naive on the subject as well. Pointing out things and letting them make up their own minds.


Originally posted by Megile:
I must be lucky.. for in all my years I have never seen a cheater. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Well, all I can say to that is, you must not know what to look for. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif There are entire squadrons on HL who are time bandits either using some form of speed hack or print screen or other to induce lag/warp.

Easy to tell the real-skilled from the fake. My favorite pilots being the one's who are Aces on a server that has no speed check and then you get them on a tight server and suddenly, their plane isn't as fast, doesn't climb or turn as well and they don't last very long. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I say, if someone truly has nothing to fear, then repeating one's Ace performance from a loose server, on a tight server, should be no issue to do. Rarely do the true cheaters take that offer. They know they will be exposed. Some big names are some of the biggest hacks in the game. Be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Yes, lag is present, but it is very easy to distinguish between lag and maneuvering warp. Oleg explained it in a past thread when MAX LAG was introduced.

faustnik
10-10-2005, 01:40 PM
Sounds like you dealt out some punishment Milan! Nice work!

You make a great point about HL and how it has changed. I was never a flight simmer before IL-2. When it IL-2 first came out I decided to venture online due to encouragement from forum members. Jumping into my first dogfight servers, I had a lot of trouble. Without having to ask, many people took the time to point out my mistakes and offer suggestions. Everyone was very respectful. When you got shot down, you would text in "S!", "Great shot", "Good kill", etc. It was a fun environment and got me hooked on the sim.

I noticed a big change about a year ago. People would shoot pilots in chutes, hang out over bases vulching, and even team kill. Shooting someone down re****s in insults in the chat bar. The other guy only wins because he is flying an "overmodeled clown plane". It's not as much fun as it used to be. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

NorrisMcWhirter
10-10-2005, 02:29 PM
because he is flying an "overmodeled clown plane"

That's because there are a lot more overmodelled clown planes than ever before http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Just kidding, kids.

TBH, I've not noticed any real differences online/in servers and HL is just the same as it ever has been with the usual weekend slanging matches. In fact, I'd not been in HL for some time but was not surprised to find the ding dongs still go on.

Ta,
Norris

73GIAP_Milan
10-10-2005, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
Sounds like you dealt out some punishment Milan! Nice work!

You make a great point about HL and how it has changed. I was never a flight simmer before IL-2. When it IL-2 first came out I decided to venture online due to encouragement from forum members. Jumping into my first dogfight servers, I had a lot of trouble. Without having to ask, many people took the time to point out my mistakes and offer suggestions. Everyone was very respectful. When you got shot down, you would text in "S!", "Great shot", "Good kill", etc. It was a fun environment and got me hooked on the sim.

I noticed a big change about a year ago. People would shoot pilots in chutes, hang out over bases vulching, and even team kill. Shooting someone down re****s in insults in the chat bar. The other guy only wins because he is flying an "overmodeled clown plane". It's not as much fun as it used to be. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Well Faustnik, it was'nt just me alone, i had all the guys mentioned above with me aswell of course, all guys who are great pilots and better then me atleast. And - judged by their postcount - wander around here for a loooong time. I play this game since it came out but online only since 2 years and there has indeed been a shift in mentality.
From a very mature and polite community to almost an institution for the mentally disabled if you'd ask me.

I think it has to do with the fact that after Forgotten Battles was released the flying was more easy. (Compare for example the P-39 in IL2 Sturmovik and the FB version) This feat got alot of youngsters in - in my eyes the "Camperstrike kids - as most of us know - from Counterstrike.
The game became far more accessible for any age and any type of gamer. And this continued even after the new 4.01 Flightmodels got introduced. It made the game somewhat harder but still not as hard as the old IL2 Sturmovik was.

So here it gives the difference between the old players, who fly friendly but with a deal of sportsmenship, who are willing to learn others and give the friendly >S!< or GK and the new kids around who see this game more as another game of Battlefield 2. Atleast that is the way I see it.
I see myself as one of the early guys who fly the way it should be done and set an example out to the others.

@Slickstick: We'll shout out loud the next time, hope you hear it and get online in time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Bbloke suspected the guys we pounded of cheating but he did not stay around to exactly tell what it was that made him do so. Personally i did not notice anything odd going on.

I await his reaction to this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But if they were cheating the others must have noticed it.

But this thread was not made about cheaters or not. My real point is, that there is a big bunch of good guys out and a wave of badguys flushed in. This degrades the community, and i got for no apparent reason at all the victim of it.

thx for reading - my fingers hurt now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MEGILE
10-10-2005, 03:48 PM
Ignore the bad, S! the good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Chuck_Older
10-10-2005, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by 73GIAP_Milan:
Ok,

Last night on HL i got drawn into a dare-to-fight together with Danjama and Bbloke after we got a bit sick and tired of a few morons around on hyperlobby. These guys were bragging about their skills in the Fw190 and how uber it was..this lasted until we took them into a server set up by Danjama and kicked tought them a little lesson.

MapleTiger and Megile were also joining in and soon enough it was for me one of the best games i have ever had online.
I am really thankful for you guys that it was so much fun, even though i feel i sucked bigtime.
- Note the hilarious moment when i shoved Megile 6 rockets from my P-47 in his face http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Priceless http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But once the fight was over and we got back to hyperlobby i was amazed by the high amount of total ******ed idiots it can hold. For NO REASON AT ALL - with Danjama and Maple as my witnesses, some guy started calling me names..
I have no clue if i have deserved that, but i muted this dude, but still i feel quite offended by this.

So much for good guys and the bad guys around. I really have the feeling that these badguys as i like to call them should be kicked or something, they are a total disgrace to the community and the game! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Thanks for reading this and thanks to the guys who gave me such a fun game last night http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

It's not your fault @$$holes are @$$holes. And it's also not your problem. It's theirs. Keep it that way http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Who gives a rat @ss what they think?

SlickStick
10-10-2005, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
Ignore the bad, S! the good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Good point! =S=!

My problem is that once you have the knowledge, it is hard to just look away while a poor noob is getting splashed by a cheater and has no chance of defending himself from it because he thinks the guy is an Ace with real skill or that he (the noob) is just too inexperienced and they start to get discouraged.

I give them hope and in most cases, training to help them get over the learning curve quicker and get them more competitive, faster. I feel it's the least I can do, as an Ace went out of his way to teach me the ropes back in Jane's WWII Fighters and I'll never forget that favor. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I'll keep my ear to the ground for next time, Milan. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BBloke knows what I know these days, as him and I have spent quite a bit online together over the past couple of years proving, testing, and teaching others about the wiley ways of some online gamers.

I'll have to chat with him a bit soon and see what went down. I'm almost positive it will have involved the "usual suspects". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Xiolablu3
10-10-2005, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
Without having to ask, many people took the time to point out my mistakes and offer suggestions. Everyone was very respectful. When you got shot down, you would text in "S!", "Great shot", "Good kill", etc. It was a fun environment and got me hooked on the sim.

I noticed a big change about a year ago. People would shoot pilots in chutes, hang out over bases vulching, and even team kill. Shooting someone down re****s in insults in the chat bar. The other guy only wins because he is flying an "overmodeled clown plane". It's not as much fun as it used to be. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I still find this good atmosphere on UKD1, faustnik. I am realatively new to flying online, but have enjoyed myself massively with Norris, IceFire, Jtd, Sepp, Boemher, Gordano and all the regulars there.

Of course the settings may not be to your liking, I prefer a more 'action' orientated game and thats how the settings are configured, to take the boring bits out of flying, but you should try it sometime. The good guys flying would make up for settings u may not like http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I have never used TS so I'm not sure what gets said on there but the chat in the game is always very helpful and positive... Respect to the admins!

faustnik
10-10-2005, 09:27 PM
I will drop in sometime Xiolablu3, thanks for the invite. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

MEGILE
10-11-2005, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by SlickStick:


I'll have to chat with him a bit soon and see what went down. I'm almost positive it will have involved the "usual suspects". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Your friend is mistaken, no cheating occured on that server.

SlickStick
10-11-2005, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Megile:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:


I'll have to chat with him a bit soon and see what went down. I'm almost positive it will have involved the "usual suspects". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


Your friend is mistaken, no cheating occured on that server. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As I have not spoken to him, nor even know what happened at this point, I cannot comment either way. Although, I'd take his word over anyone else's, I usually don't make a statement if I did not witness it with my own eyes.

Xiolablu3
10-11-2005, 01:28 PM
I have never seen any cheats for FB (thank god) anywhere on the net.

I hate cheats and have never cheated in ANY online game. (I feel its like plsying football with a group of 5 year olds and thinking that you are great when you score a goal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif )

The only cheat I have seen in action is people somehow causing lag when they are getting fired upon, which anyone can do really and is hard to avoid. Of course this can also be unintentional.

We just have to laugh at these people and think how sad they are. I appreciate your crusade against cheaters slickstik.

SlickStick
10-11-2005, 02:06 PM
You'd be surprised how many want to repress this type of investigation or exposure. Back in Jane's WWII, I worked with a gentleman to develop a flying lobby that detected the various cheats that were being used in Jane's everyday. Just to name a few:

1. There were many ways to get around HyperLobby checking the file that held the FM information.

2. There were read-only missions being run, where the host could have a mission file altered for start height and speed for example set to read-only, while the true mission file was being written to others, making them start slower and lower.

3. There were several ways to launch out of HyperLobby in normal game-joining fashion, but connect to game via 2nd ISP or networked PC and completely avoid the anti-cheat checking of the lobby.

The hilarious part is once the game was locked down, the supposed "great" squads would barely fly there. LMAO! Totally expected though.

As for this game, you are right. The main bulk of cheating is accomplished through manipulating net connection and/or packets, inducing lag via rapid-fire print-screening with third party programs like FRAPS, as in-game only works once every ten seconds and using a speed hack to overclock a PC's operating system, thus overclocking any programs being run and create time compression online, while others are stuck at real speed.

The very coolest part about this game is that Oleg exposed the cheating and coded the game so that the conf.ini file contains the means to detect the above-mentioned PF cheats. They are MAX LAG and Speed Check.

The problem is, the time speed check lines are not present in the current PF conf.ini file upon installation and only someone who knew about it before would know to add the lines and how to use them on their Host server. There is no mention of it anywhere in the manual or read-me, but there is mention of MAX LAG in the manual.

I love when I join a server and see that speed check is being used and if it's at 4% or below, I get really excited. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I love the fact that I fly exactly the same on a server with default max lag and default speed check, as I do with a server set to 3 Secs, 3% and MAX LAG at 0.5 NEAR, 1.0 FAR and connect speeds limited to 28.8.

That, to me, is the true tale of the tape when it comes to someone impressing me with their skills online. If they can beat me on BBloke's or my own server or any server where I know that the proper anti-cheat detection is in place, then they most certainly will get my respect.

The settings cannot totally eliminate the use of such tactics, but it severly limits their effectiveness and makes them easier to detect when you see the same pilot's name go flying across the chat attached to a cheat message on EVERY server he flies on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Nevermind that he is a 4 year vet with top of the line PC, cable connection and never seems to have a connection issue unless in trouble. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

BSS_Goat
10-11-2005, 02:42 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 73GIAP_GSXR1000:
yes it certainly was fun (even though my flying skills sucked goatballs) [QUOTE]

WHOOOHOOO!!!!

SlickStick
10-11-2005, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by BSS_Goat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 73GIAP_GSXR1000:
yes it certainly was fun (even though my flying skills sucked goatballs)

WHOOOHOOO!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO!! Score one for the satiated Goat! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

PBNA-Boosher
10-11-2005, 04:14 PM
There are indeed a number of them around. Ignore them, exactly. They don't exist. The more pissed off they get, the better. If they get pissed off enough, they'll leave.

SlickStick
10-12-2005, 02:51 PM
Good point, Boosh. Some are harder to ignore than others though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif