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Flakwalker
12-24-2005, 11:43 AM
I have the following questions on german grammar.

There are some ocupations/profesions that altough on english dont apply, on german there is a female and male aplication. (on spanish there are some differences aswell like doctor (m) doctora (f).)
The classic example is student (m) / studentin (f)
I give a try at german ranks and I found that it could be Offizier (m) Offizierin (f), this apply to all ranks?. This not apply on spanish for example, so there is oficial (m/f) but not oficiala (f)

The other question is the word 眉ber, this word was used on WW2 and before?

MEGILE
12-24-2005, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Flakwalker:


The other question is the word 眉ber, this word was used on WW2 ?

Yeah, right around the time the La-7 started appearing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Seriously though, this forum NEEDS a thread dedicated to teaching and learning different languages.

How am I meant to show the Dora is overmodelled if I don't spreuchen die lingo?

Pirschjaeger
12-24-2005, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
How am I meant to show the Dora is overmodelled if I don't spreuchen die lingo?

Forget it my mono-grammatic friend; you can't.

Drink beer instead. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Merry Christmas!

Fritz

Pirschjaeger
12-24-2005, 12:25 PM
Flakwalker, "眉ber" has been used for hundreds of years. It means "over" or "above". IL-2 and LeBillfish's avatar are based on it.

I'm no expert, and it shows. But I would guess that the the genders will always apply since I have never seen any acceptions to German grammar rules.

Frohe Weihnachten und Prost!

Fritz

Abbuzze
12-24-2005, 03:46 PM
You are right a female officer is "Offizierin"

Not very common in germany, because before 2001 women in germany only could join the medical forces. But there are allready a woman general.

For the "眉ber", in germany it is just used as over, no use as uberfighter or something.

When I realised this use of the word, I real had to laugh, when I saw a bord in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" with the word "ubervampire" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I think it饴磗 a result of the wrong use of "门揵ermensch" in the 3rd Reich. The Nazis never understand what Nietsche real meant and turnd it into something evil and stupid.

If you read sometimes german texts I recommend you this online dictionary from the University of Munich.
http://dict.leo.org

Flakwalker
12-25-2005, 01:44 PM
Ah thanks, I tough "眉ber" was the german version of "super"

Bremspropeller
12-25-2005, 01:50 PM
No, "super" is actually the same word.

But "眉ber" has the same sense when used in the term "门揵er-plane/ 门揵erflugzeug" (in English/ German). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Flakwalker
12-25-2005, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Bremspropeller:
No, "super" is actually the same word.

But "眉ber" has the same sense when used in the term "门揵er-plane/ 门揵erflugzeug" (in English/ German). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I got this on the link given before:

Die Suche nach 门揵erflugzeug lieferte keine Treffer

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bremspropeller
12-25-2005, 02:22 PM
Sure, since "门揵erflugzeug" is not a commonly accepted technical term. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

FlatSpinMan
12-26-2005, 01:37 AM
I have a couple of questions,too. In a campaign I am making that is set in a flight school and then a few other locations I have used a few german or german-sounding words. Can some please tell me if these are correct,or my made-up ones, SOUND kind of believable?
Eng. Ger.
cadet(s) Kadett(en)
lieutenant Leutenant
Border patrol Grenzenschutze
Air section Luftabteilung

Border patrol air section
Grenzenschutze Luftabteilung
(Can you guess which terms I made up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif)

Any help would be great. BTW, the fictional campaign is about a LW pilot from training(briefly) through to adventure in Spain in the Civil War. Here is the thread.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8451037683

JG52Karaya-X
12-26-2005, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by FlatSpinMan:
Eng.(??) Ger.
cadet(s) Kadett(en)
lieutenant Leutnant
Border patrol Grenzschutz
Air section Luftabteilung

Border patrol air section
Grenzschutz Luftabteilung

PraetorHonoris
12-26-2005, 12:43 PM
Flakwalker,

although female forms of the ranks exist in the Grammar, they are not used at all.

If your superior is a female Lieutenant, you have to address her with "Frau Leutnant", if it is a male Lieutenant "Herr Leutnant".
If you are the superior you simply address her with "Leutnant" or if you are very nice "Frau Leutnant".

You must not say "Leutnantin", never!

(to speak from one's own experience) ;-)

Flakwalker
12-26-2005, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by PraetorHonoris:
Flakwalker,

although female forms of the ranks exist in the Grammar, they are not used at all.

If your superior is a female Lieutenant, you have to address her with "Frau Leutnant", if it is a male Lieutenant "Herr Leutnant".
If you are the superior you simply address her with "Leutnant" or if you are very nice "Frau Leutnant".

You must not say "Leutnantin", never!

(to speak from one's own experience) ;-)

Ah, thank you. Yes I was checking about and just the word Offizier is the only exception (just the example I did)

LEBillfish
12-26-2005, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by PraetorHonoris:
Flakwalker,

although female forms of the ranks exist in the Grammar, they are not used at all.

If your superior is a female Lieutenant, you have to address her with "Frau Leutnant", if it is a male Lieutenant "Herr Leutnant".
If you are the superior you simply address her with "Leutnant" or if you are very nice "Frau Leutnant".

You must not say "Leutnantin", never!

(to speak from one's own experience) ;-)


Whatever happened to "Ya Mistress, may ich habt another bitte?"

I tell ya, no respect round here..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

FlatSpinMan
12-27-2005, 02:45 AM
Thanks a lot for that, Karaya-x!!!