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Crazy_Foxy_
09-09-2010, 09:59 AM
Hi to everyone, i'm a pc user (i'm italian, sorry my bad english)
I'm here to foment you to a civil protest against the treatment of ubisoft towards us (the pc user).
So every pc user come here and screams.
WE WANT ASSASSIN'S CREED BROTHERHOOD PC VERSION IN DECEMBER.
we make our voices heard.
Please don't close this topic.

Deathgrim666
09-09-2010, 10:02 AM
u want them to force the pc development so it comes out crappy?

Crazy_Foxy_
09-09-2010, 10:04 AM
You believe this?
This is a commercial manevuer.

Murcuseo
09-09-2010, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Crazy_Foxy_:
You believe this?
This is a commercial manevuer.

Regardless, threads like this have no affect on release dates. If they have a plan they'll no doubt stick to it.

I'd rather waste my time on other things. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Stormpen
09-09-2010, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Crazy_Foxy_:
You believe this?
This is a commercial manevuer.

Regardless, threads like this have no affect on release dates. If they have a plan they'll no doubt stick to it.

I'd rather waste my time on other things. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
^What he said.

But if you want to get it out of your system, do it on this (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/3521000878) thread.

Crazy_Foxy_
09-09-2010, 10:11 AM
try costs nothing

JokerSte1972
09-09-2010, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Crazy_Foxy_:
Hi to everyone, i'm a pc user (i'm italian, sorry my bad english)
I'm here to foment you to a civil protest against the treatment of ubisoft towards us (the pc user).
So every pc user come here and screams.
WE WANT ASSASSIN'S CREED BROTHERHOOD PC VERSION IN DECEMBER.
we make our voices heard.
Please don't close this topic.

ah ah crazy-foxy....this is the invasion.....i want ac brotherhood before the other versions http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Split_Spades
09-09-2010, 10:31 AM
Yea I dont think this is going to work.

JokerSte1972
09-09-2010, 10:36 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif they are deaf

bolz87
09-09-2010, 10:47 AM
We must do a sort of civil "war" not only a protest it's unbelievable they have done this for the THIRD time, and i say if we're lucky the game will come out in march http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Crazy_Foxy_
09-09-2010, 10:52 AM
exactly thi is the third time and the engine of the game is the same of AC2 probably without big modifications. So what is the exscuse??

kleinehans
09-09-2010, 11:27 AM
It is not right that we must have pcsti late!
(I too am Italian, sorry for English) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Fury41
09-09-2010, 11:57 AM
i'm with you boys!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JohnConnor2012
09-09-2010, 12:08 PM
I don't mind waiting for a (better) de-bugged game personally. Ubi might even be more generous with 'extras', as they were with AC2.

Fury41
09-09-2010, 12:10 PM
i don't care.

i have xbox http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

SlimeDynamiteD
09-09-2010, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by bolz87:
We must do a sort of civil "war" not only a protest it's unbelievable they have done this for the THIRD time, and i say if we're lucky the game will come out in march http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Dude, it's way harder to release something on PC than on PS3 or Xbox. For PCs they've got to test it on several computers, might be needing to modify it for different types of computers etc. So it's more than logical that they need more time for that than for the PS3/Xbox. Stop complaining, you can't do anything about it.

Crazy_Foxy_
09-09-2010, 01:07 PM
and the other game for pc why they release date is the same of the console?
Try costs nothing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FrankieSatt
09-09-2010, 01:23 PM
Unfortunatly PC gaming is dieing. Everything is going the way of the console. I was a PC gamer and was pretty much forced to the XBox because I couldn't get a decent sports game for the PC and all the other games are pretty much XBox ports.

PC's are pretty much just for MMO's now a days and it's a damn shame.

Assassin_M
09-09-2010, 01:25 PM
This Occured last year and nothing happend so just live with it and sorry for ur misfortune

Uriccardo
09-09-2010, 02:11 PM
We want it NOW..no release in January!

AnthonyA85
09-09-2010, 02:34 PM
Unfortunately, Frankie is right, the PC games branch of the industry is slowly dying. The only games that probably will still be made for PCs are MMORPGs and RTS/TBS games, since those games don't port well to consoles, since most RTS games tend to be mod-friendly, unfortunately, console versions can't be modded.

If Assassin's Creed 3 is not the last in the series (I'm still trying to figure out which century it'd be in, probably 17th or 18th, early 20th (WW1) is pretty unlikely), then it most probably will be the last PC version in the series, especially if they keep up these delays with each release.

caswallawn_2k7
09-09-2010, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by FrankieSatt:
Unfortunatly PC gaming is dieing. Everything is going the way of the console. I was a PC gamer and was pretty much forced to the XBox because I couldn't get a decent sports game for the PC and all the other games are pretty much XBox ports.

PC's are pretty much just for MMO's now a days and it's a damn shame.
it really is a shame that PC gaming is dead guess some1 should tell Blizzard http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?100901)

PC gaming is just fine but if you want the crappy games that release once a year you are always going to get a crappy port, now look at the true PC games and you will see the difference.

Crazy_Foxy_
09-09-2010, 02:41 PM
come on people don't justify ubisoft, this is not right.

LCGuardian
09-09-2010, 03:17 PM
I love how some people justify this game coming later than the console versions on the basis that PC games are harder to code for PCs (with the significant hardware variation) than they are for PCs. Of course that's true - I accept that hardware variation means that the coding and testing phase is more time consuming for PC. But the rebuttal to that is simply that pretty much every other half decent developer making a multiplatform game manages to cope with this extra time requirement for PC and still come out with a simultaneous release.

Which really leads to three possible conclusions. One is that Ubisoft tells the truth about the reasons it gives for PC delays - a gamebreaking bug for AC2, polishing for SCC. But I think the very early notice for the ACB PC delay puts an end to this. Is a gamebreaking bug really going to cause a delay months out from the release date of the PC version solely, especially when as mentioned earlier in this thread ACB shares a lot of assets, and its engine, with the supposedly fixed AC2. The second possible conclusion is that Ubisoft are just incompetent, and can't match other large developers in releasing a PC game simultaneously. They can be a little frustrating, but I can't believe the Ubisoft devs are that useless. So we come to the third possible conclusion, that the PC version is ready around the same time as the console versions, but is delayed based on outside factors (here's a hint, possibly based on paranoia about the big P word).

All that said, I realised after smashing my head against the brick wall trying to get a simple release date for AC2 for PC on this forum earlier this year that Ubisoft simply don't listen and don't care about PC feedback. I don't doubt that our mods and forum managers do their jobs diligently in siphoning our comments as feedback to those superior in the organisation. But I just think that those views get lost when set against the Ubisoft's business strategy regarding PC gaming. Which seems to place far less emphasis on providing timely and defect free products for PCs than other developers and publishers, perhaps to incentivise switching to their console offerings.

So after this little rant, I'm now going to contradict myself and say that rants don't work. I don't have the energy to try to get ACB answers on this forum, becuase I learned the hard way with AC2 that its just a waste of time.

Elia51091
09-09-2010, 03:31 PM
Hello guys, like last year are here to protest the delayed release of Assassin's Creed. This is unacceptable (again)
peace brothers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Adam151184
09-09-2010, 04:04 PM
The delay is purely to maximise profit. Most PC games retail at 30 and on play.com the current price for ACB is 30. So on release a day a person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will be inclined to buy the PC version as it saves them 10 but this means that ubisoft lose 10. So by delaying the PC version for a few months the person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will probably give into temptation and buy the console version thus giving ubisoft a bigger profit and slowly killing off the PC gamers.

But you can't blame ubisoft for doing it. All businesses main focus is to make money. They have the best reason possible to delay the PC version it'll increase their profits allowing them to create better quality games which will help them make higher profits.

Mr_Shade
09-09-2010, 04:13 PM
Just a little post:

While I can fully understand your frustrations, I am also a PC gamer - if any of you have seen my posts about AC2 on PC you will know that..


I will remind people that IF you want to get a point across, and be taken seriously, please do not post rants, I have noticed a few underhand comments in this thread, that are pretty close to the knuckle...

They not only weaken your statements, but also leave you open to fanboy attacks.

The PC release date has been decided on.. for whatever the reason, the official reason is known to you, so please at the present time, we have to accept that.

If however they do change their minds, it wont be due to threats or rants... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FrankieSatt
09-09-2010, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7: it really is a shame that PC gaming is dead guess some1 should tell Blizzard http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?100901)

PC gaming is just fine but if you want the crappy games that release once a year you are always going to get a crappy port, now look at the true PC games and you will see the difference.

I said SLOWLY dieing. When the XBox came out, the original, sports games on the PC started dieing off and now you can't get a decent sports game on the PC. MOST games for the PC are crappy XBox ports.

Sure, you can find one or 2 games, other than MMO's, that are PC Exclusive or very well done on the PC, but the console is pretty much taking over.

It's a fact. Just go into your local game store and try to buy a PC game, other than Best Buy. I used to be able to do that at Game Stop and EB games. Now, they'll laugh at you when you ask for a PC game.

FaTaLMeTaL
09-09-2010, 06:06 PM
there were so many other titles that were released at the same time and only ubisoft continue to do this thing whit the delaying.. i dont see whats the problem they program it on PC's for xbox360 and ps3 so why dont they create it first for Pc and then the xbox360 and ps3 almost all of the other famous company's release there games at the same time..but noo ubisoft has to delay it..you know what? im gona pretend that i didnt see this threat..ok now im upset!

JohnConnor2012
09-09-2010, 07:37 PM
Adam's point, particularly, is well-observed and -taken.

LCGuardian
09-09-2010, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
The PC release date has been decided on.. for whatever the reason


It has? Are you allowed to be more forthcoming, Shade, or is Ubisoft keeping it quiet?


Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
the official reason is known to you, so please at the present time, we have to accept that.


It is? I must have missed that as well. The only information I had heard was the comments from some of the devs in the recent videos saying that the release date was "a little later" or something similar. I didn't remember any reasons with these though.


Originally posted by Adam151184:
The delay is purely to maximise profit. Most PC games retail at 30 and on play.com the current price for ACB is 30. So on release a day a person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will be inclined to buy the PC version as it saves them 10 but this means that ubisoft lose 10. So by delaying the PC version for a few months the person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will probably give into temptation and buy the console version thus giving ubisoft a bigger profit and slowly killing off the PC gamers.

But you can't blame ubisoft for doing it. All businesses main focus is to make money. They have the best reason possible to delay the PC version it'll increase their profits allowing them to create better quality games which will help them make higher profits.

Aren't you forgetting the licencing fees that devs and publishers pay to Microsoft and Sony for the right to publish for the consoles? I thought I actually read somewhere that PC games were more profitable than console games, even at lower price points, for this reason. But I don't have the figures at hand, and if anyone does have evidence that points the other way then I'll stand corrected.

FaTaLMeTaL
09-09-2010, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Adam151184:
The delay is purely to maximise profit. Most PC games retail at 30 and on play.com the current price for ACB is 30. So on release a day a person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will be inclined to buy the PC version as it saves them 10 but this means that ubisoft lose 10. So by delaying the PC version for a few months the person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will probably give into temptation and buy the console version thus giving ubisoft a bigger profit and slowly killing off the PC gamers.

But you can't blame ubisoft for doing it. All businesses main focus is to make money. They have the best reason possible to delay the PC version it'll increase their profits allowing them to create better quality games which will help them make higher profits.

ok i totally agree...but... dude which other game company does that seriously ? and why should they delay the pc thats not fair at all

rain89c
09-09-2010, 11:05 PM
I want the PC version to be released with the same time as console version.
What is their reason for the delay this time?

rain89c
09-09-2010, 11:07 PM
I just hope they wont cancel the PC version, oh god... same feeling like when the debut of AC2... fear of the dev team canceling AC2 brotherhood for PC...

i_got_you60
09-10-2010, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by FrankieSatt:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7: it really is a shame that PC gaming is dead guess some1 should tell Blizzard http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?100901)

PC gaming is just fine but if you want the crappy games that release once a year you are always going to get a crappy port, now look at the true PC games and you will see the difference.

I said SLOWLY dieing. When the XBox came out, the original, sports games on the PC started dieing off and now you can't get a decent sports game on the PC. MOST games for the PC are crappy XBox ports.

Sure, you can find one or 2 games, other than MMO's, that are PC Exclusive or very well done on the PC, but the console is pretty much taking over.

It's a fact. Just go into your local game store and try to buy a PC game, other than Best Buy. I used to be able to do that at Game Stop and EB games. Now, they'll laugh at you when you ask for a PC game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

WOW.you sir have no idea about PC gaming do you? PC gamers do not buy their games off shelves of best buy or whatever they buy most of them from digital distributors like steam etc.and you ask why not many sports games are out there for the PC ? because we don't want half as**ed ports of console games sports games on the PC suck mostly.you want to play a sports game buy a console.fifa hasn't been getting the next gen engine on the PC and idk why that is.and most PC gamers don't want to buy the same thing over and over with minor improvements each year.

there are things that the PC can do better than a console and then there are things that a console can better than a PC.for example a sports game or a hack and slash game.

Federic_92
09-10-2010, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
I want the PC version to be released with the same time as console version.
What is their reason for the delay this time?
Me too....at least Ubisoft could release the PC version one or two weeks later....

FrankieSatt
09-10-2010, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by i_got_you60:WOW.you sir have no idea about PC gaming do you? PC gamers do not buy their games off shelves of best buy or whatever they buy most of them from digital distributors like steam etc.and you ask why not many sports games are out there for the PC ? because we don't want half as**ed ports of console games sports games on the PC suck mostly.you want to play a sports game buy a console.fifa hasn't been getting the next gen engine on the PC and idk why that is.and most PC gamers don't want to buy the same thing over and over with minor improvements each year.

there are things that the PC can do better than a console and then there are things that a console can better than a PC.for example a sports game or a hack and slash game.

I won't buy a game through Digital Distribution. I want the Box, and the DVD. I want something in my hands and on my shelf not stored on my computer. I guess that is another reason why I've stopped PC Gaming.

I know not many believe PC Gaming is dieing, but it is. All you have to do is look at the market and the amount of PC games being sold compared to console games being sold. I'm not just talking one game versus another game, I'm talking ALL PC Games versus ALL Console games. There is no comparison that Consoles are taking over.

I don't like it but that's the way it is.

Crazy_Foxy_
09-10-2010, 08:41 AM
Me too....at least Ubisoft could release the PC version one or two weeks later....
One month later is ok for us and for the developer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ryuzito
09-10-2010, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by FrankieSatt:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by i_got_you60:WOW.you sir have no idea about PC gaming do you? PC gamers do not buy their games off shelves of best buy or whatever they buy most of them from digital distributors like steam etc.and you ask why not many sports games are out there for the PC ? because we don't want half as**ed ports of console games sports games on the PC suck mostly.you want to play a sports game buy a console.fifa hasn't been getting the next gen engine on the PC and idk why that is.and most PC gamers don't want to buy the same thing over and over with minor improvements each year.

there are things that the PC can do better than a console and then there are things that a console can better than a PC.for example a sports game or a hack and slash game.

I won't buy a game through Digital Distribution. I want the Box, and the DVD. I want something in my hands and on my shelf not stored on my computer. I guess that is another reason why I've stopped PC Gaming.

I know not many believe PC Gaming is dieing, but it is. All you have to do is look at the market and the amount of PC games being sold compared to console games being sold. I'm not just talking one game versus another game, I'm talking ALL PC Games versus ALL Console games. There is no comparison that Consoles are taking over.

I don't like it but that's the way it is. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry, but you don't know what are you talking about. Read this article: http://software.intel.com/en-u...sound-its-pc-gaming/ (http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2010/04/19/hear-that-knocking-sound-its-pc-gaming/)

"Today, PC gaming generates 43% of the total gaming revenue. The next closest platform is the Wii, which generated 24% of the total gaming revenue in 2009. And the PC share is growing by 2013, the forecast is that PC gaming will represent 56% of the total pie."

See? PC Gaming is the most profitable gaming platform by far, and it's growing! You don't need to go very far to see how many developers support PC Gaming. Ubisoft for example, released The Settlers 7, Silent Hunter V and announced Heroes VI recently, three PC exclusive games. What exclusive game the company announced for consoles? None!

I'm not saying PC Gaming is "teh best and consoles sux" or anything like that, because the personal preference must be respected. I respect console gamers and their decision to play their console games for any reason. But as you can see, PC Gaming is not dying. In fact, it's doing better than any console out there - soon to be doing better than ALL consoles out there.

caswallawn_2k7
09-10-2010, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by FrankieSatt:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by i_got_you60:WOW.you sir have no idea about PC gaming do you? PC gamers do not buy their games off shelves of best buy or whatever they buy most of them from digital distributors like steam etc.and you ask why not many sports games are out there for the PC ? because we don't want half as**ed ports of console games sports games on the PC suck mostly.you want to play a sports game buy a console.fifa hasn't been getting the next gen engine on the PC and idk why that is.and most PC gamers don't want to buy the same thing over and over with minor improvements each year.

there are things that the PC can do better than a console and then there are things that a console can better than a PC.for example a sports game or a hack and slash game.

I won't buy a game through Digital Distribution. I want the Box, and the DVD. I want something in my hands and on my shelf not stored on my computer. I guess that is another reason why I've stopped PC Gaming.

I know not many believe PC Gaming is dieing, but it is. All you have to do is look at the market and the amount of PC games being sold compared to console games being sold. I'm not just talking one game versus another game, I'm talking ALL PC Games versus ALL Console games. There is no comparison that Consoles are taking over.

I don't like it but that's the way it is. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

good look with the next Xbox then, MS refuse to use blu-ray and claim everyone wants digital distro so the next Xbox will most likely be like the PSPGo and nothing like a console you have now.

the fact is you personally may not like digital distribution but the sales of digital compared to retail is on a knife edge and is tipping more towards digital than retail.

this is why most game stores put up such a protest about the PSPGo and some games that require steam as the firms making consoles that 100% rely on digital distribution and firms making games that advertise digital distribution is eventually going to put them out of business.

so you may not like it but it's they way all gaming is heading on console and PC.

Crazy_Foxy_
09-10-2010, 12:41 PM
yes but this isn't the discussion about console and pc gaming.
This is the discussion to have ACB for pc in december if we are very very very lucky.

Windrius
09-10-2010, 01:16 PM
To everyone who is saying that it's released later so it would have less bugs
People ACB is mainly just a minor modification of AC2 + new storyline. The engine is still the same, it's not like they are rewritting the whole thing. Only major difference from AC2 and ACB is multiplayer. And thats still nothing.
Clearly Ubisoft hates PC gamers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Or as always they just want to improve their anti-pirate security which one way or another gets cracked.

Murcuseo
09-10-2010, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Windrius:
To everyone who is saying that it's released later so it would have less bugs
People ACB is mainly just a minor modification of AC2 + new storyline. The engine is still the same, it's not like they are rewritting the whole thing. Only major difference from AC2 and ACB is multiplayer. And thats still nothing.
Clearly Ubisoft hates PC gamers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Or as always they just want to improve their anti-pirate security which one way or another gets cracked.

Cool, that's quite a strong opinion you have. You seem pretty convinced you're right.

Do you have any references that might convince others to feel so strongly?

Or is it merely your opinion?

FrankieSatt
09-10-2010, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:good look with the next Xbox then, MS refuse to use blu-ray and claim everyone wants digital distro so the next Xbox will most likely be like the PSPGo and nothing like a console you have now.

the fact is you personally may not like digital distribution but the sales of digital compared to retail is on a knife edge and is tipping more towards digital than retail.

this is why most game stores put up such a protest about the PSPGo and some games that require steam as the firms making consoles that 100% rely on digital distribution and firms making games that advertise digital distribution is eventually going to put them out of business.

so you may not like it but it's they way all gaming is heading on console and PC.

I'll give up the XBox and move to the PS3 if I'm force with Digital Distribution on the XBox.
I'll give up gaming period if it ever comes to the point that it's all digital distribution.

Steam is a resource hog that will NEVER see the light of day on my computer again. I dealt with it when I was playing Half Life 2 on the computer, never again.

It's hard to sell Collector Series games with collectables over digital distribution. I don't think it will take over, it might grow but I don't see it taking over and being the only way to get games.

I'll leave the subject alone now, as I don't want to drag this topic any more off-topic than it is.

caswallawn_2k7
09-10-2010, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
To everyone who is saying that it's released later so it would have less bugs
People ACB is mainly just a minor modification of AC2 + new storyline. The engine is still the same, it's not like they are rewritting the whole thing. Only major difference from AC2 and ACB is multiplayer. And thats still nothing.
Clearly Ubisoft hates PC gamers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Or as always they just want to improve their anti-pirate security which one way or another gets cracked.

Cool, that's quite a strong opinion you have. You seem pretty convinced you're right.

Do you have any references that might convince others to feel so strongly?

Or is it merely your opinion? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
it's opinion as adding in the multiplayer code is a much much bigger change than people seem to realise, so if you want to blame anything for the delay blame them having to redo large chunks of the base code to allow full multiplayer support in the game.

KZarr
09-10-2010, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
good look with the next Xbox then, MS refuse to use blu-ray and claim everyone wants digital distro so the next Xbox will most likely be like the PSPGo and nothing like a console you have now.

WTF? Seriously if the next Xbox doesn't have a Blu-ray play imma kick Micro$oft' *** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

caswallawn_2k7
09-10-2010, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by KZarr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
good look with the next Xbox then, MS refuse to use blu-ray and claim everyone wants digital distro so the next Xbox will most likely be like the PSPGo and nothing like a console you have now.

WTF? Seriously if the next Xbox doesn't have a Blu-ray play imma kick Micro$oft' *** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
the group who runs the right to blu-ray sony, apple, disney, warner and a few other firms have said MS is welcome to use blu-ray but MS insist on bigging up digital distro stating physical media is dead.

Crazy_Foxy_
09-10-2010, 02:20 PM
Why you talking about blu-ray????

Feillyne
09-10-2010, 02:37 PM
LOL, the PC gaming isn't quite dying... only suffering from a major blow. :-)

Still, the attitude towards PC gamers, and loads of them even regarding a game such as Assassin's Creed, is astoundingly horrible.

Why can't they hire a couple of additional experts to get the release date same for all platforms?!

rupok2
09-10-2010, 03:17 PM
Steam is not a resource hog, if it is for you than your pc isn't meant for gaming at all. Digital distribution the way steam does it is great. Physical copies can get damaged or lost but digital copies on steam stay forever for you to download, plus the added community system on steam and good servers for multiplayer. Digital copies of pc games is a huge marker and many times when companies claim the p word hurts them, they don't count the sales on steam and other digital distribution systems.

Well that's not the point of the article but just wanted to voice my opinion.

As for the PC delay, there is no excuse, whether it is harder to code or whatever. There are many other developers and they can get their games out for all the platforms at the same time. Ubisoft's game isn't so epic that it has to receive special treatment.

JohnConnor2012
09-10-2010, 05:47 PM
OK, you're persuading me - though see the non-PC players screaming when ACB's launch date goes back in line with our platform.

BTW, those feeling strongest about it (and I am not one of them) might consider cancelling pre-orders which, after all, are supposed to ensure you play the game first and not months after others have already got it.

LCGuardian
09-11-2010, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by JohnConnor2012:
OK, you're persuading me - though see the non-PC players screaming when ACB's launch date goes back in line with our platform.



That's something I hadn't really thought of, but does raise quite an interesting issue. If the delay to the beta were (hypothetically) to result in a delay for the console versions of ACB, would the PC version receive a further delay beyond the historical release window? Given the console versions of AC1 and AC2 released in November, and the PC versions released in March/April - let's say the console versions were shunted to January. Would we see the PC version still arrive in March/April, or would it slip to June? It might give some indication as to the true reasons behind the delay if it did slip further. Thoughts?

Windrius
09-11-2010, 01:43 AM
@Robson19822009
Yea it's my opinion. Altho this opinion is based on what ubisoft does and says.

@caswallawn_2k7
Multiplayer is more of an addon than a change.
It's a completly different gameplay type, it's not like you are doing in-game missions during multiplayer. From what I saw in the multiplayer vidoes I can pretty much say that it's the same game, only you have to kill someone. I didn't see anything that would take extra months to add.

And anyway.
Insted of spending money on a PC version of the game, it's more worth to just<span class="ev_code_RED">***EDIT- the next person that advises Piracy on these boards will face suspension of their account***</span> .

rupok2
09-11-2010, 08:11 AM
I canceled my PC pre order yesterday, gave them a month. I was hoping that they would only delay to December at most but Q1 basically will mean February or march. I suggest people who pre ordered for PC cancel because the main reason for pre ordering is so you can get the game early, which is not happening.

BMT22033
09-11-2010, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Adam151184:
The delay is purely to maximise profit. Most PC games retail at 30 and on play.com the current price for ACB is 30. So on release a day a person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will be inclined to buy the PC version as it saves them 10 but this means that ubisoft lose 10. So by delaying the PC version for a few months the person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will probably give into temptation and buy the console version thus giving ubisoft a bigger profit and slowly killing off the PC gamers.

But you can't blame ubisoft for doing it. All businesses main focus is to make money. They have the best reason possible to delay the PC version it'll increase their profits allowing them to create better quality games which will help them make higher profits.

You hit the nail on the head. The PC delay is a business decision with the goal of maximizing profit. I understand the difference between developing for PC vs console and the person who pointed out that it takes longer to QA (assuming you do it right) a PC game because of the multitude of hardware configurations vs the fixed hardware platform of a console is right. But this, too, is a business decision. Admittedly , it's possible to pirate a console game with the use of a mod chip, circumventing the console's hypervisor, etc., but the level of piracy on consoles is much lower than on the PC. So the consoles end up getting the game first. If Ubisoft *wanted* the AC franchise to be on the PC first, they could obviously do that but it would ultimately have some impact on sales of the console versions which would be released at a later date. By releasing the console versions first, they maximize the potential for sales. Then, three to six months later, when the majority of console owners who were going to buy the game have already done so, they release the PC version (which, in theory, has now had additional time to tested) and collect the (almost certainly lower) amount of revenue from that platform.

I think many publishers see the PC market as the lowest priority today. But since they're developing the game for Xbox 360 already, and porting that code base to the PC platform isn't an *extremely* demanding task, they will often end up releasing a PC version after initial sales of the game on consoles have started to level off/decline. Obviously, not all publishers do this and it can be considered a trade-off from a revenue standpoint. If it cost X to develop my console game and it will cost X + 15% to port the game over to the PC platform, then I might consider doing it if I think the income from sales on the PC will outweigh the potential of "lost" future sales on the console platform after the PC version is released (and subject to being pirated).

This turned out to be a lot longer than I initially expected but I hope it might offer some additional ideas on why publishers do this. For what it's worth, I'm a PC-only gamer. Nothing against the console platforms, I'm just pointing out that my opinion isn't that of a console fanboy. I wish everything came out on the PC the same day as the console release, but sadly, that's probably going to happen less and less. :-( As Adam151184 already pointed out, game publishers are a business like any other and they're in business to make money.

rupok2
09-11-2010, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by BMT22033:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adam151184:
The delay is purely to maximise profit. Most PC games retail at 30 and on play.com the current price for ACB is 30. So on release a day a person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will be inclined to buy the PC version as it saves them 10 but this means that ubisoft lose 10. So by delaying the PC version for a few months the person with a PC and a PS3 or a 360 will probably give into temptation and buy the console version thus giving ubisoft a bigger profit and slowly killing off the PC gamers.

But you can't blame ubisoft for doing it. All businesses main focus is to make money. They have the best reason possible to delay the PC version it'll increase their profits allowing them to create better quality games which will help them make higher profits.

You hit the nail on the head. The PC delay is a business decision with the goal of maximizing profit. I understand the difference between developing for PC vs console and the person who pointed out that it takes longer to QA (assuming you do it right) a PC game because of the multitude of hardware configurations vs the fixed hardware platform of a console is right. But this, too, is a business decision. Admittedly , it's possible to pirate a console game with the use of a mod chip, circumventing the console's hypervisor, etc., but the level of piracy on consoles is much lower than on the PC. So the consoles end up getting the game first. If Ubisoft *wanted* the AC franchise to be on the PC first, they could obviously do that but it would ultimately have some impact on sales of the console versions which would be released at a later date. By releasing the console versions first, they maximize the potential for sales. Then, three to six months later, when the majority of console owners who were going to buy the game have already done so, they release the PC version (which, in theory, has now had additional time to tested) and collect the (almost certainly lower) amount of revenue from that platform.

I think many publishers see the PC market as the lowest priority today. But since they're developing the game for Xbox 360 already, and porting that code base to the PC platform isn't an *extremely* demanding task, they will often end up releasing a PC version after initial sales of the game on consoles have started to level off/decline. Obviously, not all publishers do this and it can be considered a trade-off from a revenue standpoint. If it cost X to develop my console game and it will cost X + 15% to port the game over to the PC platform, then I might consider doing it if I think the income from sales on the PC will outweigh the potential of "lost" future sales on the console platform after the PC version is released (and subject to being pirated).

This turned out to be a lot longer than I initially expected but I hope it might offer some additional ideas on why publishers do this. For what it's worth, I'm a PC-only gamer. Nothing against the console platforms, I'm just pointing out that my opinion isn't that of a console fanboy. I wish everything came out on the PC the same day as the console release, but sadly, that's probably going to happen less and less. :-( As Adam151184 already pointed out, game publishers are a business like any other and they're in business to make money. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I personally am not asking for a same day release but they are making me mad by releasing it 3-4 months later. I could understand december but feb or march is pathetic.

Crazy_Foxy_
09-11-2010, 11:12 AM
I personally am not asking for a same day release but they are making me mad by releasing it 3-4 months later. I could understand december but feb or march is pathetic.
I'm with you brother.

AubreyWilborn
09-11-2010, 01:13 PM
I am just so mad about this whole Brotherhood delay thing.

Ubisoft is practically guaranteeing that their PC sales remain low-whenever the hell they decide to release Brotherhood. Besides its single player storyline, Brotherhood's greatest assest is its novel multiplayer. Assasinating people instead of runiing around shooting them is just such a cool idea. A game like that could revolutionize, or at least take over online gameplay. But that's only IF it's released along with the PS3 and XBOX ports. The novelty of it all will have worn off if PSE and XBOX gamers have been playing it already for a few months when it gets online.

Ubisoft has ensured that the opening sales for "Brotherhood" are not gonna be as spectacular as they could be. They are throwing money down the crapper. Instead of choosing to make money from THREE platforms, they've decided to release the game on TWO platforms, and then make LESS MONEY from the third platform(due to customer alienation and the novelty wearing off). Just who the hell RUNS Ubisoft?

FaTaLMeTaL
09-11-2010, 01:40 PM
crazy_foxy.. no point the just annouced the delay.
here a link http://www.gametrailers.com/ne...eed-brotherhood/2463 (http://www.gametrailers.com/news/assassin-s-creed-brotherhood/2463)

i hate it i am gona play it like 4 months later that suck + my friends are going to tease me... and i dont want to play it on theys xbox or ps3...

Crazy_Foxy_
09-11-2010, 02:02 PM
this news is old.
I open this topic cause it.

Crazy_Foxy_
09-12-2010, 07:33 AM
Guys do not let die this topic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Mr_Shade
09-12-2010, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Crazy_Foxy_:
this news is old.
I open this topic cause it. it's current.. 'Sep 9, 2010 @ 4:28pm'?

I hate to say this:


But it looks like the game maybe coming Q1 2011..


So apart from posting your displeasure at this fact, the thread won't really accomplish much.

I am double checking, the facts as posted on certain sites, however I should brace yourselves ready for a delay on the release...

That delay, no matter how long, is better than the previous 'indefinite delay' in my humble opinion - I am also a PC gamer, and I also would have preferred the game to release across all platform at the same time.


I am slightly confused as to people saying 'I pre-order to get the game early' - and they are now cancelling the game.

No matter where you pre-order - you should be still be getting the game on the release date, or if your lucky a day before ?

Unless they mean at the same time as console?

Which seems now to be likely.


But like I said, I will double check the facts as posted before.

Crazy_Foxy_
09-13-2010, 08:11 AM
I don't understand.
So if we have preordered the game, we can have it first?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
I'm really confused.

Mr_Shade
09-13-2010, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Crazy_Foxy_:
I don't understand.
So if we have preordered the game, we can have it first?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
I'm really confused. Somepeople were posting to say they are now canceling the order for the game, since they cant it it 'early' now..



The PC version may be delayed, so everyone on PC will get it the same time.

iurgijdfvh
09-18-2010, 12:41 AM
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FaTaLMeTaL
09-18-2010, 06:11 AM
**** *ff dude i hate wow cuz its a stupid game whit no sense and dont try to advertise it


btw the thing is that ubisoft will lose really much this year because ps3 has a hack now and people are buying that stuff.Ubi cant see the consequences and they still think that if they release the PC version later people will buy it on ps3 and xbox360 ... and they will never admit it.why not release now the pc version and uplate it whit new patches every week or so eh?

AubreyWilborn
09-18-2010, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
**** *ff dude i hate wow cuz its a stupid game whit no sense and dont try to advertise it


btw the thing is that ubisoft will lose really much this year because ps3 has a hack now and people are buying that stuff.Ubi cant see the consequences and they still think that if they release the PC version later people will buy it on ps3 and xbox360 ... and they will never admit it.why not release now the pc version and uplate it whit new patches every week or so eh?


Exactly. Ubisoft is just too foolish to realize that they are losing money here. I really wonder who is in charge of there marketing/sales. If Ubisoft were to release the PC version of Brotherhood at the same time as the console offerings, they would make a killing all across three platforms. But by delaying sales of the PC version, they are literally taking the wind out of their possible numbers sold.

Especially this time around, since the delay is more brazen and incomrpehensible than it was with AC1 or AC2. I mean, Ubisoft advertised the PC version as ready to pre-order in late May, early June! I actually pre-ordered my copy from Best Buy in June. And then, suddenly, with two months until the official "release date", the PC release date is pushed back until spring of next year.

Way to go, Ubisoft. You are damaging your prospective sales, AND angering a whole gaming community at the same time. It's too bad you guys can't even see it.

Murcuseo
09-18-2010, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
**** *ff dude i hate wow cuz its a stupid game whit no sense and dont try to advertise it


btw the thing is that ubisoft will lose really much this year because ps3 has a hack now and people are buying that stuff.Ubi cant see the consequences and they still think that if they release the PC version later people will buy it on ps3 and xbox360 ... and they will never admit it.why not release now the pc version and uplate it whit new patches every week or so eh?


Exactly. Ubisoft is just too foolish to realize that they are losing money here. I really wonder who is in charge of there marketing/sales. If Ubisoft were to release the PC version of Brotherhood at the same time as the console offerings, they would make a killing all across three platforms. But by delaying sales of the PC version, they are literally taking the wind out of their possible numbers sold.

Especially this time around, since the delay is more brazen and incomrpehensible than it was with AC1 or AC2. I mean, Ubisoft advertised the PC version as ready to pre-order in late May, early June! I actually pre-ordered my copy from Best Buy in June. And then, suddenly, with two months until the official "release date", the PC release date is pushed back until spring of next year.

Way to go, Ubisoft. You are damaging your prospective sales, AND angering a whole gaming community at the same time. It's too bad you guys can't even see it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You two seem to be pretty convinced your opinions are fact, do either of you have any evidence of references to back up what you're saying or are you just having a rant because you're annoyed about the delay?

Don't get me wrong I can empathise, I too am a PC user but what you're saying just sounds like a couple of angry kids ranting because you can't get the sweeties you want when you want them.

@Aubrey: I'm sorry to have to say this but if you pre-ordered your copy of ACB in June under the impression it would be released along with the console versions then your naivety is as much to blaim for your dissapointment as Ubisoft themself. If both other release (AC & ACII) were delayed why would you expect otherwise from ACB?


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:

why not release now the pc version and uplate it whit new patches every week or so eh?

Think about it this way, if Ubisoft has set a development schedule for the PC version now that the delay has been confirmed and they haven't fully tweaked everything you'd rather they released a shady version of ACB and patched it every week? So you'd happily play a crappy version of the game and have it patched rather than wait a few months and play it as it was meant to be?

That's a stupid idea from my perspective.

Waiting a few month isn't going to kill you!.

Mr_Shade
09-18-2010, 11:39 AM
Lets not start the infighting..


The PC version is scheduled for Q1 2011.

We all have to accept it, like it or not...

I have reported back that the PC community are not happy at the news..[side note, I also am a PC gamer]

Shouting on the forums, will not make the date change, it's already scheduled.

I hope personally that the extra time given to the PC allows them to make the best possible game and maybe include some extras, ala AC2..

thekyle0
09-18-2010, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
Especially this time around, since the delay is more brazen and incomrpehensible than it was with AC1 or AC2. I mean, Ubisoft advertised the PC version as ready to pre-order in late May, early June! I actually pre-ordered my copy from Best Buy in June. And then, suddenly, with <STRIKE>two</STRIKE> <span class="ev_code_RED">three</span> months until the official "release date", the PC release date is pushed back until spring of next year. Wrong. The delay on AC2's PC version was so murky that even the Moderation staff didn't know right away. Unfortunately, they were reassuring people that there was no official announcement for the delay of the PC version because that was all they were really told. So while there was no announcement here, the retailer websites seemed to catch word first and it spread from there. Then there was a series of embarrassing rant threads and posts from upset users who were late to recieve answers from anyone representing Ubisoft. By comparison this delay was handled much better.

Mr_Shade
09-18-2010, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by thekyle0:
By comparison this delay was handled much better.

I hope so.. since I do try and get as much information as possible to the community as soon as possible, as do the other Forum Managers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

However regarding the past delays and news, it's not always as simple as it seems - sometimes we just don't have any info to pass on..

I hope though, that the info remains flowing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FaTaLMeTaL
09-18-2010, 01:08 PM
i have evidence for alot of things so dont make me get banned from mr.shade ....

oh you know what ? why dont the community make a delay for PS3 and Xbox360 so thay can be released on Q1/2011 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????

Murcuseo
09-18-2010, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
i have evidence for alot of things so dont make me get banned from mr.shade ....

PM me the evidence.

AubreyWilborn
09-18-2010, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
**** *ff dude i hate wow cuz its a stupid game whit no sense and dont try to advertise it


btw the thing is that ubisoft will lose really much this year because ps3 has a hack now and people are buying that stuff.Ubi cant see the consequences and they still think that if they release the PC version later people will buy it on ps3 and xbox360 ... and they will never admit it.why not release now the pc version and uplate it whit new patches every week or so eh?


Exactly. Ubisoft is just too foolish to realize that they are losing money here. I really wonder who is in charge of there marketing/sales. If Ubisoft were to release the PC version of Brotherhood at the same time as the console offerings, they would make a killing all across three platforms. But by delaying sales of the PC version, they are literally taking the wind out of their possible numbers sold.

Especially this time around, since the delay is more brazen and incomrpehensible than it was with AC1 or AC2. I mean, Ubisoft advertised the PC version as ready to pre-order in late May, early June! I actually pre-ordered my copy from Best Buy in June. And then, suddenly, with two months until the official "release date", the PC release date is pushed back until spring of next year.

Way to go, Ubisoft. You are damaging your prospective sales, AND angering a whole gaming community at the same time. It's too bad you guys can't even see it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You two seem to be pretty convinced your opinions are fact, do either of you have any evidence of references to back up what you're saying or are you just having a rant because you're annoyed about the delay?

Don't get me wrong I can empathise, I too am a PC user but what you're saying just sounds like a couple of angry kids ranting because you can't get the sweeties you want when you want them.

@Aubrey: I'm sorry to have to say this but if you pre-ordered your copy of ACB in June under the impression it would be released along with the console versions then your naivety is as much to blaim for your dissapointment as Ubisoft themself. If both other release (AC & ACII) were delayed why would you expect otherwise from ACB?


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:

why not release now the pc version and uplate it whit new patches every week or so eh?

Think about it this way, if Ubisoft has set a development schedule for the PC version now that the delay has been confirmed and they haven't fully tweaked everything you'd rather they released a shady version of ACB and patched it every week? So you'd happily play a crappy version of the game and have it patched rather than wait a few months and play it as it was meant to be?

That's a stupid idea from my perspective.

Waiting a few month isn't going to kill you!. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah-waiting a couple months won't literally kill me, but it's beyond frustrating. It's just bad business. As for my "naievety(sp?)" in concerning the pre-order: I was SURE that Ubisoft wouldn't hold back the PC version BECAUSE THEY CREATED A PC PRE-ORDER FOR BROTHERHOOD!

I figured that SURELY Ubisoft wouldn't create a pre-order option for Brotherhood in MAY '10, only to release the game in FEBUARY/MARCH '11! What kinda sense does that make? If you were a business owner, would YOU offer customers the right to reserve something in MAY/JUNE, for sale in NOVEMBER, when really you're gonna sell the thing in MARCH?

Really, what gets me isn't the fact that Ubisoft is holding back Brotherhood. What gets me is that they clearly indicated(with a PC pre-order option) that they wouldn't. That's dishonest. Why allow PC gamers to pre-order the game along with console owners, when we won't even get the game until much later?

And as for Ubisoft needing the extra months to "polish" and "improve" the final PC game: bullstuff. Get outta here with that line. I have both AC1 and AC2 for the PC, and they're not much better than the console offerings. Not enough to warrant a few months' wating time, at least. Do you know how AC1 on the PC differs from AC1 for the consoles? A few archer assasination missions. And what about AC2 for the PC? We get the DLC(which I'll admit, is better than lousy archer assasinations) and a DRM.

The bottom line is that there really is no good reason for Ubisoft to push back the PC release date of AC Brotherhood-especially after they let us pre-order the thing in May. They either did it because they think PC gamers are the dregs of the gaming industry, or because they're scared about piracy.

I know that Ubisoft's mind is made up and nothing I say can change it. But still, it really sucks. And it's made me reluctant to buy AC3.

AmazonAlani
09-18-2010, 03:53 PM
PC release in January now?! Eeesh, I gotta keep up with the times.

It's quite frustrating to be a PC-only gamer. Walk into a games store, they either have no PC games, or *very* few.


- - -

AnthonyA85
09-18-2010, 05:49 PM
@AmazonAlani, the release date is Q1 2011, meaning the first three months, so we'll most likely get it in March.

And personally, as a PC gamer, I'd rather have a polished pc version released when it's ready to be released, rather than have a repeat of the Empire Total War mess. That game was released at least 3 months before it was ready, and needed lots of patches.

rupok2
09-18-2010, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by AnthonyA85:
@AmazonAlani, the release date is Q1 2011, meaning the first three months, so we'll most likely get it in March.

And personally, as a PC gamer, I'd rather have a polished pc version released when it's ready to be released, rather than have a repeat of the Empire Total War mess. That game was released at least 3 months before it was ready, and needed lots of patches.


Why don't you guys get that the delay is not to polish the game? Its to make the drm better and because they are scared of the p word on the pc, even tho consoles are no better after the ps3 incident. Ac2 was no better than a console port and had a decent amount of bugs even after the 4-5 month delay. Two of the ones that were common, the drm server problem (you would have thought they prepared after all those months) and the massive fps loss in certain areas (not due to gpu but in game bug). Some people would say that at least they gave us the dlc but that is bs. They gave us a part of the game that they should have finished before releasing the game for the consoles. They say that they couldn't finish it due to time constrains but that's another piece of bs. It was just a money making scam. If the game wasn't finished, why didn't they delay it for the consoles?

So basically this is what happened:

console versions
- incomplete game release (on purpose) so more money could be squeezed out
- regular release date.

Pc version
- Delay
- Complete game to make up for the delay.

Analogy

Basically they stole our car and gave it back to us as a gift a few months later.