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sithhar9
12-22-2006, 06:26 PM
Hey there, this question probably has little chance of being awnsered but I thought I'd give it a try anyway. Basically, I plan on building a new computer system soon. I'm *TRYING* to hold out until the Core2Duo price drops in Q2 07 and the second round of 680i motherboards come out... but I'm very impatient. I'm trying not to be in a big hurry to upgrade since BoB doesn't come out until late 07, as you all know. Anyway, to get to the point...

I want a TrackIR4, but currently, all of my "tracking" is done via the cursor of my Cougar's throttle. For those who may not know, the Cougar's Throttle arm has a mini-joystick that acts as a mouse cursor and in IL2 moving the mouse of course, looks around your cockpit.

So basically, I don't really *NEED* TrackIR4.

My question is, is it likely that a TrackIR5 or upgraded TrackIR4 could come out in 07 before BoB that would render TrackIR4 obsolete? I don't know how much room for improvement TrackIR4 has and what can't be improved via a firmware update.

I don't like buying something, only to have it replaced a few months later. Which is an unavoidable fact when dealing with PC's, but I'd like to minimize that effect as long as possible :P

knightflyte
12-22-2006, 07:37 PM
A bloke from the Natural Point forums posted either here or at Sim HQ, that there would be no new versions of Track IR at least through XMas 07.

6DOF is a great addition to the Track IR's profile, but even after almost 2 years it's not fully implimented by games (simulations being the only consistant exception). I expect there to be a long life for TrIR 4 so I wouldn't worry about it being left behind by future Track IR upgrades.

If you're just even thinking about a Track IR don't hesitate to put your money down. Once you've tried it you'll wonder why you waited so long.

Akronnick
12-22-2006, 07:49 PM
I'm still using TrackIR2 two years after the release of TrackIR3 with no problems. I do plan to upgrade between now and SoW:BoB to take advantage of 6DoF though.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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sithhar9
12-22-2006, 09:54 PM
Thanks a lot for the replies http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bearcat99
12-22-2006, 11:02 PM
I still use TIR2 as well...... before that I used the mouse pan on my X-45. The thing with TIR is that it lets you concentrate on flying. You dont have to worry about moving your thumb. It is amazing how distracting little things like that can be and you dont really appreciate it untill you can cur***vent them.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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BillyTheKid_22
12-22-2006, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
I still use TIR2 as well...... before that I used the mouse pan on my X-45. The thing with TIR is that it lets you concentrate on flying. You dont have to worry about moving your thumb. It is amazing how distracting little things like that can be and you dont really appreciate it untill you can cur***vent them.


Best??? Track IR 2 or 3 or 4 ?? pls tell me!!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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horseback
12-22-2006, 11:48 PM
I got a TIR3 a little over eighteen months ago and recently upgraded to a TIR4 for my primary gaming computer.

For three years, I thought that I was used to using the thumb hat on my CH Pro Throttle, but TIR has made me a confirmed In The Cockpit View Only player. It makes a vast difference in your SA. If the game fully supported widescreen display, it would border on the actual range of your visual awareness using TIR.

So I think that I can assure you that after spending at least $250 on a Cougar plus whatever your pedals cost, the $170 or so you will spend on a TIR4 will soon seem a low cost investment for the return in simming pleasure.

Get it. Get it before you waste the money on a shiny bauble for your Significant Other, a brake job on your car, property taxes on your home, or food for your children. It's (almost) that good.

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knightflyte
12-23-2006, 12:05 AM
Try Gogamer.com. Track IR 4 is $149.00. With shipping it should be about $155.00

Got mine almost a year ago from them to replace my Track IR 1.


Magnum PC has it for $159.99 plus shipping.

You WILL NOT regret getting this devise!!!!!

BillyTheKid_22
12-23-2006, 01:59 AM
Howdy!! I just ask All! Software version 3.13,( Supportts Track IR 1, 2, and 3 models only) Does not Track IR 4 ? why , Pls tell me!!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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knightflyte
12-23-2006, 02:34 AM
Track IR 4 and Track IR 3 WITH Vector Expansion use the newer drivers because they have the added "dimentions of freedom" feature. (6DoF)

Versions 1, 2 and the NON vector expanded Track IR 3 don't have the extra dimentions of movement hardwired into them to need advanced drivers.

NP_Vincent
12-26-2006, 04:12 PM
The TrackIR 5 won't be out until christmas season 2007.

BillyTheKid_22 - The older hardware (TrackIR 1/2)just isn't capable of using the new software

Bo_Nidle
12-26-2006, 04:17 PM
I have just had Track Ir4 for Xmas from "she who must be obeyed" and have found it to be a phenomonal improvement to the sim. Its like a new game.

Its very natural and after a few hours I no longer conciously think about where I am trying to look. The "in-cockpit" experience for me has improved immeasurably.I recommend it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">



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MadBadVlad
12-26-2006, 04:57 PM
I always find the "I'm not sure whether to buy it now if its replaced by something better in a few months" argument pretty pointless. ALL PC technology you buy at any point is IMMEDIATELY obsolete because of the pace of development in this sphere of electronics. You just have to knuckle down and jump in. Having said that I believe TrackIR 4 Pro has plenty of life in it yet. The new TrackClip Pro accessory has only just been released and there are bound to be software upgrades for that and TIR4 in the next 12 months not to mention new game profiles as developers add TIR to their sims/games.

For me the difference between thumbing around with a cludgy hat switch on my X-52 and seeing the in-cockpit environment move in realtime with my head movement using TIR4 was a 100% increase in spatial awareness and target acquisition.

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XyZspineZyX
12-26-2006, 05:46 PM
I got my track IR 4 last spring, and had trouble getting used to it at first. No, I'm not one of those "oh my god this thing is so great bla bla bla" folks. It actually gave me motion sickness to use it at first with all the default profiles.

Then I tweaked the profiles until I found one that suited me(took me a while) and started using it in FS9 only, to get used to flying and looking around...up until the point where I'd load up Il2 and move my head around unconsciously...and now I cant live with out it. Personnally, unless TIR5 has some feature that completely blows TIR4 out of the water, I'll be keeping this one until it breaks.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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bun-bun195333
12-26-2006, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
Best??? Track IR 2 or 3 or 4 ?? pls tell me!!
Billy,
TrackIR4 is the best right now - it has expanded field of view. Either will work with Il2 and the 6dof software isn't needed until BOB. It is supported by FSX.

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