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soter1988
01-30-2006, 01:22 AM
Hello,
Have you seen the movie U-571? Did you like it? What othe sub movies are there? I have seen many but I can't find any more at the dvd club...
As for the U-571 it was a great film. I really enjoy the atmosphere and the intensity of sub movies.

Los_1234
01-30-2006, 02:13 AM
U-571 was pretty much a huge insult to Brits, and generally not that good IMO, anyway, check out Das Boot, Crimson Tide and The Hunt for Red October. Thats all i can remember, but yeah, these films are so much better than u-571, so you should love them

mariuszj1939
01-30-2006, 04:19 AM
I remember great Polish black-white film ORZEL.
That was about history of PL submarine who in Sept. 1939 after internment in Tallinn escaped without maps and other equipment through Danish Sund,Kattegat and Skagerrak to UK !!!
See more on :
http://www.orzel.one.pl/news.php

I like especially Das Boot - real film not Disneyland.
U-571 as film is good but history :
- Enigma was uncoded before 2nd WW by three Polish mathematics from Poznan and delivered in Spring 1939 to France (1 pce)and UK (1 pce).
Most probably they hunted for Enigma upgrades !

Celeon999
01-30-2006, 04:47 AM
EEEEEEKKK !!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Another U-571 thread !

Please use the search function and you will find plenty old threads about U-571.

This will answer your questions, trust me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UF_Excalibur_D
01-30-2006, 08:53 AM
This is not a flame response.

U-571 was a MOVIE.......it was made to make money...not tell a story or depict a real life event. It is a movie, made for viewing pleasure. So, yes I loved it....very good "movie"....but yes Das Boot was much better. I own and watch both....=)

Los_1234
01-30-2006, 09:24 AM
no, not a flame response then, just patronising, im opinionated, NOT dumb

toxicseagull
01-30-2006, 09:37 AM
lighten up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, can anyone remember a film about a sub that got painted pink? and got hunted by both sides, it was a semi comedy and quite old (i mean like the "technicolour" age)

Celeon999
01-30-2006, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by toxicseagull:
lighten up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, can anyone remember a film about a sub that got painted pink? and got hunted by both sides, it was a semi comedy and quite old (i mean like the "technicolour" age)


That was "Operation Petticoat" a classic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

UF_Excalibur_D
01-30-2006, 10:24 AM
I didnt mean anyone was dumb....like you said, your opinion and I respect that. Yes the movie was incorrect in ALOT of aspects but it made for good entertainment is all... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I have never seen Operation Petticoat, that will be my next endeavor...find and buy....another good one hardly mentioned comedy is "Down Periscope".....love that one as well....lol

J_Weaver
01-30-2006, 12:17 PM
Oh yea, there are many great sub movies. Operation Petticoat, Run Silent Run Deep, The Enemy Below, Torpedo Run, Down Periscope. Thats all I can think off right now.

Carotio
01-30-2006, 12:25 PM
I just bought another sub movie a while ago, simply named "U-Boat" featuring William H. Macy, Scott Caan, Til Schweiger and Thomas Kretschmann - if anyone remembers TK was the German captain in U-571. Funny to see him in another American sub movie! Did you think, U-571 was too "hollywood", then watch this! Several German U-Boats in the same area out off the US coast! One American! Some sinkings, a plot, and a real unrealistic story, but hey, "it's just a movie!" At least, the German actors speak German, however some times they speak English! I can recommend it for those liking a good story, but if you're too realistic minded, then stick with your "Das Boot" DVD!

Celeon999
01-30-2006, 12:32 PM
I believe Kretschmann also plays something like a ship´s captain in King Kong.

Goose_Green
01-30-2006, 01:19 PM
You could always try "The Cruel Sea", it's on a different angle to the whole U Boat war and you will never sea a single U Boat but it's a fantastic story of the crew of everyone's favorite escort ship - the Flower class corvette!

It's based on the book - and although it's very old and in black and white it's still a very good film!

toxicseagull
01-30-2006, 02:07 PM
i agree, as usual hollywood glosses over any detail and just puts americans in.

as a lil fact, one of my best mates grandad was part of the force that captured the first ever uboat, he has the flag etc from it, pretty nice to look at http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kaleun1961
01-30-2006, 04:11 PM
You've got to be very fast to beat Celeon with a response to a question. I think his middle name is "Schnell."

Run Silent, Run Deep played on History Channel a few days ago. Not a bad flick considering the times when it was filmed. It did get me thinking, though, that Hollywood hasn't made much progress as far as "getting things right" goes. I think European films dealing with similar subjects do a better job on the realism and details side of things. Hollywood mass-markets a lot of dreck just because they know it will make a buck.

Blitzkaiser
01-31-2006, 10:50 AM
I'm sorry but I've checked uboat.net and it told that the U-571 the boat was not captured but only sunk by depth-charges west of Ireland in 1944--and everything including the coding machine has gone to the bottom, not the Brits nor US.
The most similar case is the U-570 which was depth charged and forced to surface and surrender--not that dramatical in the movie U-571.
In fact I think the movie U-571 is quite an insult to the German submarine force. I am not speaking for the Nazi, they have really done something nasty to humanity, but the history happened cannot be modified. German Submarine force is a most brilliant technology and naval force at that time, if purely military aspects are considered.
What I say may not be correct, but it is what I think

Celeon999
01-31-2006, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Blitzkaiser:
I'm sorry but I've checked uboat.net and it told that the U-571 the boat was not captured but only sunk by depth-charges west of Ireland in 1944--and everything including the coding machine has gone to the bottom, not the Brits nor US.
The most similar case is the U-570 which was depth charged and forced to surface and surrender--not that dramatical in the movie U-571.
In fact I think the movie U-571 is quite an insult to the German submarine force. I am not speaking for the Nazi, they have really done something nasty to humanity, but the history happened cannot be modified. German Submarine force is a most brilliant technology and naval force at that time, if purely military aspects are considered.
What I say may not be correct, but it is what I think


The storyline for the movie was fictious. But it is funny that this is not the real reason why the movie is ****.

The entire story book is a bad joke nothing more. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The actors are horrible but also an wonderful example for people that have chosen the wrong job, the characters are absolutely flat and have no credibility at all , the dialogues ........ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif well a sub full of monkeys would come up with some more intelligent speaking. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Some people said it was "just entertaining and nothing more" but my opinion still is :

"If you find this movie even entertaining....then there is propably more wrong with you than with that movie" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The_Silent_O
01-31-2006, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by mariuszj1939:
- Enigma was uncoded before 2nd WW by three Polish mathematics from Poznan and delivered in Spring 1939 to France (1 pce)and UK (1 pce).
Most probably they hunted for Enigma upgrades !

That's a fact that many people overlook, it was the Polish scientists' discoveries that set the British on the right path to decoding all enigma. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

...this must be a nightmare...another "U-571" thread...where's Matthew McConaghy and Jon Bon Jovi when you need them! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

This is probably one of the best about the survivors of a torpedo attack, one of Hitchcock's best!

Lifeboat (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037017/)

Kaleun1961
01-31-2006, 02:08 PM
The Poles were also responsible for smuggling out a fuel injector from the ME-109 fighter to the British. It helped them design fuel injection for their own fighters. One of the [few] shortcomings of the Spitfire was that its engine was carbureted, which led to engine cut-outs when it pulled negative G's. To overcome this, British pilots learned to roll inverted and then pull positive G's in a dive. Once they had fuel-injected engines they were better able to pull negative G's.

The_Silent_O
01-31-2006, 02:51 PM
has there ever been anything NOT advanced about German Built engines????

(from a BMW owner) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

falco223
01-31-2006, 07:02 PM
other good ones-
the enemy below
destination tokyo
operation pacific
gray lady down
the cruel sea
run silent run deep
up periscope
crimson tide
k-19
action in the north atlantic
some are oldies; i could'nt even find on netflix proly just vhs

Tigerboat
02-01-2006, 01:59 AM
Add to that list "Hellcats of the Navy"

mariuszj1939
02-01-2006, 04:34 AM
Do you know other hidden story of WW2 ?
Polish Resistance drew out from lake in mid Poland full rocket V-1 (tested there due to regular bombards of Peenemunde's rocket range).
Then they delivered all in small parts to UK !
Since July 1943 all secret info regarding V-1 and V-2 were sent to UK.
Now you can discover how quickly British Army could find weakest points of new weapon.

Blitzkaiser
02-02-2006, 08:54 PM
(by mariuszj1939) Now you can discover how quickly British Army could find weakest points of new weapon.

If the strongest weapon of the German was their summoned mind against Britain, the most advanced technology Bristish used were sabotage and espionage.

blue_76
02-02-2006, 11:47 PM
K-19 is almost comparable to das boot.. personally, i hate communism. its an ideal that simply does not work with the nature of human kind. having lived under communism for 13 years, i hope no one will ever live iunder the shroud of communism. anyway, back to the topic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif K-19 is representative and quite realistic which is what i expect from every submarine movie. Crimson Tide was also good.

Vivid1963
02-03-2006, 06:54 PM
U 571 was a farce - an insult to all who fought in the Battle of the Atlantic - what about the incident with U110 (Captured) or U 559 where LT Fasson & AB Grazier won the George Cross but lost their lives getting the code books out of the sinking U Boat.
The Cruel Sea is an excellent film, worth watching in any case, I also reccoment the Book as for Das Boot - Film, Excellent, but the 7 hour series was even better ( I have both on Video) - Now thats how it should be done