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Kibidon
07-22-2006, 11:32 PM
I dont think i will be getting one soon, but I am going to download the game off of Direct 2 Drive, (Pacific Fighters, that is). Can I still be a good player if I dont have a joystick?

Kibidon
07-22-2006, 11:32 PM
I dont think i will be getting one soon, but I am going to download the game off of Direct 2 Drive, (Pacific Fighters, that is). Can I still be a good player if I dont have a joystick?

knightflyte
07-22-2006, 11:40 PM
One of the folks who makes mission add ons for IL2/PF uses a keyboard. I have NO idea how he does it, and can't understand how someone can reach any level of proficiency.
I'd recommend a joystick. If at least to add a little bit of realism. You can probably pick up the barest bones joystick for $20.00 US.

LEBillfish
07-23-2006, 12:21 AM
I'd say it would be a must.......

Akronnick
07-23-2006, 02:32 AM
Only if you want to:

1) Land.
2) Takeoff.
3) Fly straight and level.
4) Fight Enemy aircraft.
5) Attack Enemy ground targets.
6) Do anything except watch the auto pilot get shot down.

Crash_Moses
07-23-2006, 08:27 AM
I tried flying sans joystick on my travel 'puter and found it darn near impossible to fly with any amount of skill.

I'd say yes. Heck, even an el cheapo gamepad would be better then nothing....

(If I could figure out a way to haul my rudder pedals, flight chair, and TIR on my business trips I sure as heck would...)

But do a search in this forum for "fly with keyboard" you might find some helpful tips and tricks.

S!

Chuck_Older
07-23-2006, 08:38 AM
hmmm...real pilots seem to find it handy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

there are three main control inputs to these aircraft, and they are all equally important, no matter who tells you otherwise:

control column/stick
throttle
rudder

I don't think a joystick has become a 'must-have', in my opinion I feel a HOTAS stick/throttle with some type of rudder control, either on the HOTAS or in the form or rudder pedals, is necessary. otherwise you're simply not going to reach anything like your potential

notamuppet
07-23-2006, 08:57 AM
You KNOW you want one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jaws2002
07-23-2006, 09:06 AM
You need it.
You can't fly without one.

VW-IceFire
07-23-2006, 10:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kibidon:
I dont think i will be getting one soon, but I am going to download the game off of Direct 2 Drive, (Pacific Fighters, that is). Can I still be a good player if I dont have a joystick? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You can play the game without a joystick and I know several who managed to for quite a while but the joystick is a huge advantage in the end as its far more precise.

A half decent stick such as Saitek's Cyborg Evo is fairly cheap.

http://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/cyborgevo.html

If you're in the US...looks like there is a sale on. Its $29.99. Keep in mind that you get what you pay for...the Cyborg Evo is a pretty well respected stick from what I know (I've never owned one but many use them) but if you really get into it then spending upto $200 or more on sticks is fairly common. Also keep in mind that that $200 you can spread out over maybe 10 years or more as they tend to last much longer and be more robust.

But for you...I would suggest a cheaper stick like the Cyborg Evo...but do your research and ask around here before you buy anything. Not all joysticks are created equal. Any joystick will be better than a keyboard.

tigertalon
07-23-2006, 10:35 AM
Until your joystick arrives, you can train to shoot from gunners position. It will come in handy laters on, be sure.

leitmotiv
07-23-2006, 03:09 PM
Joystick is the first step on the road to addiction to flight sim technology ending in George Michael-level depravity---midnight encounters with flight sim gear sites, brown paper packages arriving at front door containing ridiculous gear which will make you look like the King of Prats (try going to the door in a bathrobe and a TrackIR cap with metal thingy sticking up and still panting from a rough dogfight with Hell's Own Maddox AI and wearing your RAF goggles, strictly for immersion, mind you)---stop now while you have a fighting chance---THROW AWAY THE SIM, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!!!!!!!!!! AGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Bearcat99
07-23-2006, 03:47 PM
Yes.. If money is an issue try One of these (https://order.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/wg-order?unique=3ee8b&catalog=saitekusa&et=44c3f593&basket=b%3D5C3a42bfd1004ef744c3ee8b46f873a42bfd1f0 8c3244c4e48552d9f487f0f74d%26l%3D%26s%3DMqFCPCp8JN XNFPDWSV9bNryO5Gg-).. the X-52 is a steal for that price.

Treetop64
07-23-2006, 04:34 PM
For this sim, you need a joystick like fish need water. Period.

Crash_Moses
07-23-2006, 05:33 PM
And if money is really, really, really an issue there's always this...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Crash_Moses/Joystick.jpg

x6BL_Brando
07-24-2006, 05:33 AM
It's a bit like asking if a mouse is necessary to use Windows. It isn't, but who wants to be navigating with a keyboard when the mouse is available?

Even an el cheapo (http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/joysticks/logic3-tornado-usb-joystick.asp) stick would show you how necessary an item it is in any flight sim.

B.

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-24-2006, 08:17 AM
Yes, you must use a joystick. The game won't run without one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2006, 08:48 PM
I know its really really hard to go outside in this day and age, but I'd recommend NOT buying the game from Direct 2 Drive, because if you want to merge it eventually, you just CANT.

On the joystick issue, would you drive a car with a keyboard?

Divine-Wind
07-24-2006, 09:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Crash_Moses:
And if money is really, really, really an issue there's always this...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Crash_Moses/Joystick.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And yes, a joystick definitely comes in handy. If a Saitek or Thrustmaster is too expensive for your tastes (I wouldn't go near CH unless you have the money), Microsoft will work fine too. *ducks before someone throws it back in my face*

Old_Canuck
07-25-2006, 07:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Divine-Wind:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Crash_Moses:
And if money is really, really, really an issue there's always this...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Crash_Moses/Joystick.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

And yes, a joystick definitely comes in handy. If a Saitek or Thrustmaster is too expensive for your tastes (I wouldn't go near CH unless you have the money), Microsoft will work fine too. *ducks before someone throws it back in my face* </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You people fly with joysticks? No wonder I'm always getting killed online. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif