View Full Version : A Sad Day - Hurricane crashes at my local Airshow

09-15-2007, 12:16 PM
I've been looking forward to this day for ages - The Airshow at my local airport. All day I've been thrilled by the sounds and sights of aircraft old and new streaking across the sky. Even the Red Arrows made an appearance, as did the Eurofighter, a Catalina and a Lancaster.

The dogfight between Spitfires, Hurricanes and ME's was amazing, with a simulated attack on the airfield itself.

I was stunned to learn that one of the Hurricanes peeled away and crashed. The pilot didn't survive. Very sad indeed.

BBC News Report Here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6996734.stm)

Airshow Website Here (http://www.shorehamairshow.com/)

09-15-2007, 12:43 PM
Thats indeed sad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Was the Hurricane a original one or a repro ?

09-15-2007, 12:46 PM
I'm not sure Celeon. I expect the local newspaper will have a report on Monday.

09-15-2007, 01:05 PM
This a disaster indeed.

09-15-2007, 02:25 PM
Was very dissapionted to hear this earlier.

Just hope the few left stay flying.

09-15-2007, 03:29 PM
Terrible news http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

And what a shocking event to witness. Did your kids see it happen RJ?

Those old airworthy planes are almost as precious as the pilots who fly them. There are (were) around ten Hurricanes left in the world (http://www.k5083.mistral.co.uk/EXTANT.HTM).

At least the pilot's death was quick, and he went down doing something he no doubt loved.

There has been quite a few WW2 vintage planes crashed this year, including a fatal accident involving two P-51's in the US a few months ago.

I've always wondered - do these airworthy vintage aircraft get modified with any modern equipment, instruments, systems, etc. to help with safety and reliability?

09-15-2007, 04:54 PM
Fortunately my boys didn't see it VG no, thankfully. Our eldest, 3 in November, is savvy enough to know about fire engines and ambulances and rescues et al. That would have taken some explaining to him http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

At a guess, I'd imagine that they have some kind of GPS Sat Nav fitted for navigation purposes.

Mrs. Jambo was quite upset, as we all were, and as you say VG, I told her he died doing what he must have loved doing best. The best way to go if you ask me!

09-15-2007, 05:57 PM
Wow this is just a terrible weekend http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
Colin McRae died too :-(

09-15-2007, 05:59 PM
I just read about Colin McRae too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

09-16-2007, 10:14 AM

09-17-2007, 01:04 AM
do these airworthy vintage aircraft get modified with any modern equipment, instruments, systems, etc. to help with safety and reliability?

In the US anyway, yes, they do get a number of modifications, required by the Federal Aviation Administration for them to legally fly in the airspace. Although I'm not certain of exactly what modifications are neccessary nor do I know all of them, I do know they are required to have anti-collision beacons, and almost certainly an Emergancy Locator Transmiter (ELT). Modern radios would almost have to be part of the package, as well as some sort of GPS system. Most, if not all of the pilots of the fighters, at least, wear modern helmets. The real challenge is figuring out where to put all this required equipment, while still maintaining as close to authentic look, and operation of the aircraft as possible.

Incidents such as this one bring an interesting argument to the forefront. That of: "Should we be flying these pieces of our history at all?" They are aircraft, and we know aircraft occasionally crash. So we know that, should we continue to keep flying them, they will eventually all crash (case in point, the last airworthy ME-109). The counter-argument is that they should be grounded, so that they may last longer. Of course, those who want to see them fly will point out that they can't be appreciated for what they are when they are static. They must fly to be seen in their full glory.

09-18-2007, 03:01 PM
What I find sad, as well as the loss of the pilot and rare aircraft, is so many were built and there are so few left.
This is true of all these aircraft we all cherish and yes planes crash and eventually by statistics they'll all be gone but I live near an airfield that used to house a 2 seater Spitfire. Sounded rough as old boots coming in to land on a closed throttle but taking off...... there's no sound like a Merlin.
They've got to keep flying or they might as well just be fibreglass models, I pointed out to my 13 year old son the kills on the Mustang at a museum. Being 6'3 and 2** + lbs I reached up and touched it. Got told off big time but it sort of meant something as it was a real flying fighting machine.
Now we need to look at the recent and present day, aircraft made in hundreds not wartime thousands and think 50/60 years on. When the old boy watching a passenger shuttle launch to the moon says he remembers flying thuds over Vietnam or Tornado's over Iraq or..... etc etc.
The UK retires it Jaguars, how many are kept or sold off for flight?. I dont know but probably not many.
I knew an excentric guy once, a really nice guy but he's dead no. He had a fun fair in his garden with swingboats the lot, a greasy pole with ladies leg at the top and a dunking stool in his pond (actually its a lake). He also had a Sea Vixen, Sea Knight, several missiles, 2 chariots (tirpitz type not ben hur!), 40mm bofors on mounting and several decommisioned sea mines sprinkled about,(yes its quite a big garden). He had the right hump (was pissed off) as every serviceable aircraft he bid for on the UK retired hardware mailing list was snapped up by 'the yanks' who took them to the desert to fly them. Rather the desert to fly than his garden to rot.
If anyone in the UK's interested.... exit J20 of the M25, take the back road to Kings Langley. First roundabout take a right, 200 metres on your left just before the canal bridge is 'Trout Lake Bungalow'. Drive into the car park and take a walk round his lake, theres a few interesting things there and its free to walk. It takes 2 minutes to get there from the motorway and depends how fast you walk to get round the lake but go left off the car park and its all within 300 metres. Worth a driving break in any case......

09-18-2007, 03:22 PM
Well said Mottie! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif and thanks for those directions you posted too - next time I go past J20 I'll hang a left and see what's there.

09-19-2007, 02:28 PM
Whats there is where I'd like to live!...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Hope you get a chance to go see.