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doraemil
10-05-2009, 07:52 PM
I find it strange only a few Axis planes have rockets, but the Allied planes use them alot. But seems Luftwaffe are all air to air.

Was this a game balance issue or did the Luftwaffe historically never used rockets?

Frankthetank36
10-05-2009, 08:02 PM
Don't the FW190s have Panzerschrecks?

Choctaw111
10-05-2009, 08:16 PM
Yes, but not nearly as common. Remember that the Axis powers were fairly busy in their defense to worry much about the offense.

CUJO_1970
10-05-2009, 08:30 PM
Yes, of course. The Luftwaffe used Panzerblitz 1 and 2 rockets for ground attack with FW190s, beginnig in latter half of 1944:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3977/ps1rd2.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8261/panzerblitz2an1.jpg

http://www.focke-wulf190.com/images/pzblitz.jpg

Frankthetank36
10-05-2009, 09:09 PM
I can't seem to recall any Japanese planes at all with rockets

Treetop64
10-05-2009, 11:23 PM
I think it was the Soviets that pioneered air to ground rockets.

JtD
10-05-2009, 11:52 PM
Rockets weren't nearly as effective as they are in game. Bombs and guns were much more useful for many purposes. So making little or even no use of rockets is not a big omission.

Germany also used the WGr 21 in the air to ground role.

general_kalle
10-05-2009, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Frankthetank36:
I can't seem to recall any Japanese planes at all with rockets

the latest zero model has 4 rockets...in game theyre called Bomb-Rockets. no idea why as they seam to be regular A2A rockets.

Trinity_Jay
10-06-2009, 11:40 AM
There were cases of 'George' pilots using air-to-air rockets against American aircraft. Often without success.

CPS_Bulldog

doraemil
10-06-2009, 08:59 PM
thanks for the updates . .

I can see historically why the Luftwaffe wouldn't use it from the explanations given.

In game rockets are really effective, I like using them the most (out of all ground attack weapons) well using my plane as a ground attack weapon exempt. I can hit better with them than strafing. Bombing I can manage but with that P-38 with 12 rockets you can really cook.

csThor
10-07-2009, 12:43 AM
In reality rocket accuracy was lousy (and that is a positive exaggeration). Hit percentages were extremely low and bombs were really much more effective. But still the Luftwaffe introduced Panzerblitz AT rockets late in the war since they were economically cheaper and easier to get than the problematic special ammunition of the Mk 103 and Bk 3,7 they had used hithereto for tank hunting. These weapons were effective as well, but required a steady hand on the control-stick as well as decent training and a little time. None of which was in great supply in late 1944 even over the Eastern Front. So Panzerblitz rockets were introduced and (after making enough experiences with individually fired Pb I) the type II was fired in a salvo to maximize the chances of a hit.

na85
10-07-2009, 12:58 AM
Didn't Tiny Tim rockets see a fair amount of use in the bunker-busting role?

TinyTim
10-07-2009, 02:49 AM
One of biggest problems in IL-2 connected with rockets is, in my opinion, their accuracy. With a bit of experience one can achieve nearly 100% hit on targets as small as tanks - with single firing (one pair of rockets). This makes planes like I-153 very effective tank killers. They seem to have a very small if any dispersion, which of course wasn't the case IRL. The only rockets (that I know) in IL-2 with a dispersion is R4M. Maybe also japanese ones, but I didn't use those in years if ever.