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CrazySchmidt
07-29-2004, 05:08 PM
Hi guys,

I am currently using a G4 Ti-4200 graphics card and am considering buying a FX-5900.

Can anyone tell me what sort of performance increase I can expect with FB, or what the core clock speed of the FX-5900 runs at.

Thanks,
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CrazySchmidt
07-29-2004, 05:08 PM
Hi guys,

I am currently using a G4 Ti-4200 graphics card and am considering buying a FX-5900.

Can anyone tell me what sort of performance increase I can expect with FB, or what the core clock speed of the FX-5900 runs at.

Thanks,
CrazySchmidt. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Taylortony
07-29-2004, 05:39 PM
I had a Gforce 3 TI500 which is about the same perfomance as the one u have, replaced that with a FX5900xt and before i could run perfect in stutter mode but after change i could run totally smooth off line, with just a little stutter online when you hit a lot of surf or water like in the islands one, but that is with running everything maxed out including all the water settings and the trees, to be honest i often run excellent mode online but with all trees on etc as it gives it faultless play at that with just the water difference that i dont tend to notice..

I do have a meg of rambus memory though, and its a pent 4 2gig machine dell 8200

does that help you?

Xiolablu3
07-29-2004, 05:44 PM
The 5900 (XT?) is considerably more powerful than your TI4200 and is hence a good upgrade.

I wouldnt worry about clock speeds, they mean little as u have to take into account the pipelines etc. A card running at 100mhz doing 4 textures per clock with 4 pipes is much faster than one running at 300 mhz doing 1 texture. This may be technically explained wrong (Im not an expert on the inner workings of gfx cards) but you get the idea.

The 5900XT at 120 will be a nice upgrade from your TI4200, thats all you need to know really http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Personally I would go with the 9800 Pro instead as its about the same price but a little bit faster. BUT the difference is pretty minimal and only noticable in benchmarks.

SWN_Young
07-29-2004, 05:50 PM
Read this:

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030512/index.html

Weather_Man
07-29-2004, 06:35 PM
I would recommend the 9800Pro. But, either are good cards. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

FX5900: 8x1 pipelines, 256-bit interface, 400Mhz core, 850Mhz memory
Nascar benchmark: 62.2fps
COD w/4xAA 8xAF benchmark: 40.7fps

ATI 9800Pro: 8x1 pipelines, 256-bit interface, 380Mhz core, 680Mhz memory
Nascar benchmark: 63.7
COD w4xAA 8xAF benchmark: 65.0

Ti4200: 4x2 pipelines, 128-bit interface, 250Mhz core, 444Mhz memory
Nascar benchmark: 49.8fps
COD w/4xAA 8xAF benchmark: 25.6fps

(benchmarks with a 3.2Ghz P4)

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jenikovtaw
07-29-2004, 06:43 PM
5900XT is your direct counterpart of 4200 , but of next generation, so to speak.

Its the smaller (value) sister of the bigger 5900 (non xt) and 5950.

By the way Gf 3ti 500 is not the same performance as Gf4 ti 4200 about 15% diff.

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CrazySchmidt
07-29-2004, 07:13 PM
Thanks guys, the 9800 pro is a lot more expensive than what I can get the FX-5900 for.

I also would like to have the 9800 pro.

Cheers,
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Alexi_Alx_Anova
07-30-2004, 12:53 AM
Ti cards have DX8.1 based chips while FX cards are based on DX9 chips.

Alexi

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dieg777
07-30-2004, 01:48 AM
I have a gainward fx 5900 xt golden sample and it is very overclockable- havnt ramped it up yet as it is new but my fingers are itching to give it a go. Rivatuner is a good utility to overclock core speeds and acess some hidden utilities. You will notice an improvement in upgrading your card but your processor speed and memory are important too -get the right balance and you should be fine

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tfu_iain1
07-30-2004, 10:07 AM
on the 9800pro price front i can safely say NONSENSE!

9800pro can be got dirt cheap, its the 9800xt that costs at the moment. i got my 9800pro last night, 111 from dabs, a dabsvalue board. standard reference board, but works just great with FB/ACES. so i gotta say bang for buck go with the 9800 pro if your on a budget, but dont overpay for one! some are overpriced but they are out there for next to nothing if you know where to look. also got an audigy last night so im in fps improvement heaven... i thought i was going to have to get new mobo/cpu but no need, ram, gfx and sfx have done the job.

P4-1800 (good old faithful)
ATI radeon 9800pro 128mb DDR (up from geforce ti4200 OTES
768mb 133 sdram (up from 256)
creative audigy ls (from ac-97)

runs all new games wonderfully. Except Lo-mac. have to turn down the detail a bit on that. oh well.

if you fancy overclocking one, youll want a bigger fan/heatsink, or one of the ICE-Q ones that excalibur do, which has a huge heatsink and OTES style monster fan on it.

johnbn
07-30-2004, 12:19 PM
Sorry to steal your topic CrazyShmidt (BTW excellent job on the Missionmate prog.) but I have a Ati 9700pro, folks will I notice any significant improvement going up to a 9800pro.
Worth the 111?

CDN_Merlin
07-30-2004, 12:48 PM
I highly doubt you will se a major improvement going to the 9800 Pro.

I went from a G4 4400 to the 9800 pro and I saw a big improvement but thats because I went from one generation to another.

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MB_Avro
07-30-2004, 01:19 PM
hi CrazySchmidt

May I take this opportunity to thank you again for your MissionMate programme..... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

Regards
MB_Avro

CrazySchmidt
07-30-2004, 02:46 PM
Hi guys,

Thank you all for your feed back on the video card issue.

I'm in New Zealand and I'm very hard pressed to find a 9800 pro for anything near what I can get a FX-5900 for. Example, the average I am seeing for the 9800 pro is a little over $600.00 kiwi I have found one supplier who is offering the FX-5900 for a little over $300.00 kiwi.

I think you will agree it's a significant difference.

Also thanks for the kind comments on Mission Mate. I am currently working on a major revision which will include but will not be limited to an option for multiple waypoints and additional flight groups. The trig is starting to do my head in (in small chunks Crazy, in small chunks).

Cheers,
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Giantsfan24
07-30-2004, 05:11 PM
Well I just went from a ti4600 to a 9800pro(with the r360 core) and while it did improve iq, i only got better max fps. They say that you can;t tell fps above 60 and on the black death track i got like 90 max and 15 min and 40fps average with the 9800(which is normal, ask pf coastie) but with the ti4600 i got 72 max and 37 average and 18 min so i am going to wait for the x800's and 6800s to become a little more affordable and am selling the 9800, then, with the 16 pipelines and all that i will see a huge difference. AS for the 5900, i really cant tell you. It seems with the fx series, nvidia went with speed(raw fps) and the ati 9800, 9700, and 9500 went with iq.
Actuqally, the x800 can be had for 350 over at fry/outpost. Great price but i still can;t justify spending 350 dollars on one piece of a computer.
My specs:
Abit NF7-S v2.0
AMD Athlon 3200+(Barton)
1024 pc3200 ram
G4 TI 4600 128mb
Barracuda 7200rmp 80gig HD

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