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adadaead
10-18-2004, 01:05 PM
Whats that somekind of ground attack, can someone explain. Still learning English http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VF-17_Jolly
10-18-2004, 01:10 PM
They were used for ultra low level bombing the parachute slowed the bombs rate of decent so the aircraft dropping it wouldn`t get caught by the blast
http://www.geocities.com/limeydvr/images/parafrag.jpg

diabloblanco1
10-18-2004, 01:11 PM
It is a parachuted bomb that floats in the air over the targets then explodes. Looks like a fuel air explosion of modern weapons. It is VERY lethal against vehicles and other soft targets. BOOM!

adadaead
10-18-2004, 01:34 PM
You gotta be kidding me we have that thing in PF. But then will it make bombing easier or harder. Like you'll have fly closer to the vehicle collumb of further? But wouldn't this bomb kinda not land straight because of the wind or something

diabloblanco1
10-18-2004, 01:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by adadaead:
You gotta be kidding me we have that thing in PF. But then will it make bombing easier or harder. Like you'll have fly closer to the vehicle collumb of further? But wouldn't this bomb kinda not land straight because of the wind or something <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Easier in a sense because the wide range effect of the air explosion. Harder because it is low level high speed pass directly over the target area. Much higher chance of getting hit by AAA.

Tater-SW-
10-18-2004, 01:40 PM
They were very effective, usually used against aircraft and AAA at airfields, not against motorized convoys (there weren't many motorized convoys to attack in the PTO, anyway).

The idea was to be masked from AAA fire by being below the horizon, you'd flash over the airdrome, dump the frags, and shovel on the coal for home. The window for you to be over the target was very small, and a % of the guns wouldn't even be able to point in your direction until you were gone.

tater

diabloblanco1
10-18-2004, 01:47 PM
That is true Tater. The only difference is that in FB/PF the AAA is deadly accurate. It is still alot of fun and your ingress setup could make the entire operation easy or hard depending.

Reschke
10-18-2004, 01:52 PM
Its gonna be a fun ride thats for sure. I just wish I had them on my F4U-1A as I come screaming over the trees shooting at Zekes trying to take off.

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Tater-SW-
10-18-2004, 01:53 PM
BTW, I've always read that parafrags had instantaneous fuses, so they should blow on impact, not as an air-explosion.

tater

Denwad
10-18-2004, 02:51 PM
similar effect can be obtained in AEP/FB etc. by setting bomb fuses to 2 seconds

allows He-111 to drop 2 SC-2000 at 50m and speed away http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

AlmightyTallest
10-18-2004, 03:17 PM
If you get a chance look into the B-25 raids in the Pacific during WW2, the reason the B-25's were mounting many machine guns or cannons in the Pacific was because they could lay down a sort of covering fire as they came in at treetop height over a Japanese airfield. The B-25's flew in a straight line side by side with each other as they came across the airfield firing their guns, while dropping the parafrags all over the airfield.

They were pretty devastating attacks from what I've read. Theres a really great book about this very subject called "Warpath across the Pacific" Has some amazing photos and stories of the B-25 strafers from the 345th Bombardment Group, I got the book and personally I would highly recommend it, amazing photographs, and great reading.

Below is a review of the book, on the left side of the review there are pictures of the parafrag phosphorus bombs in action, you can see they cover a wide area and did explode in the air, at least in those photos:

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/reviews/warpath.html

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Legacy of the 345th Bomb Group
The 345th's area of operations was vast, spanning over all of New Guinea, Dutch New Guinea and up into the Philippines, Chinese coast, Formosa and finally the southern islands of Japan and Korea. This combat history is divided over 21 in depth chapters of text that take the reader through every day, and ever mission of the "Air Apaches". During its 26 months of WWII service, the group flew a total of 58,562 combat hours on 9,120 strike sorties. It dropped 58,000 bombs, weighing 6,340 tons and fired 12.5 million rounds of ammunition. Credited with sinking 260 vessels for a total of 190,000 tons and damaging 275 others. A total of 260 planes were destroyed on the ground, and 107 aerial victories, in total the unit won the Distinguish Unit Citation four times. For aficionados of the B-25 Mitchell, this book will be of particular interests, as the 345th flew this medium bomber throughout its entire combat career, including the early model "C" and "D" variants, through the "J" model. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's also some great stories of the B-25H's in the book, one version actually had a radar for aiming the cannon, and under testing against a partially sunk ship hulk they repeatedly made direct hits with the cannon. I think it was a B-25H-5 model.

Yellonet
10-18-2004, 03:40 PM
I forsee the parafrags becoming the ultimate vulcher weapon... Muahahahahahaha http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

LStarosta
10-18-2004, 04:03 PM
Wish they had a way of deploying them in a fan shape to macimize area covered by the bomblets.

Tater-SW-
10-18-2004, 09:19 PM
The odd thing is that you have formation control in flight, but you can't set it in the FMB. Too bad, really.

tater

Athosd
10-18-2004, 10:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Denwad:
similar effect can be obtained in AEP/FB etc. by setting bomb fuses to 2 seconds

allows He-111 to drop 2 SC-2000 at 50m and speed away http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That works well in the game, however IRL a delayed fuse would likely mean your bomb burst some depth beneath the surface - great for cratering, not so hot for frag and blast effect.

These para-bombs have the advantage of low altitude release combined with instanteous (or airburst) detonation maximising damage to surface structures and personnel.

Salute

Athos

Kegger26
10-19-2004, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Reschke:
Its gonna be a fun ride thats for sure. I just wish I had them on my F4U-1A as I come screaming over the trees shooting at Zekes trying to take off.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Hey reschke its Kegger26