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blastomatic1759
06-28-2006, 08:46 PM
just curious what kind of boats do you have running your rivers , and are any like these?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/101_1662.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/100_1654.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/AmericanHeritage.jpg

hueywolf123
06-28-2006, 10:05 PM
Nope, we've got a couple of paddle wheelers on the Murray river (and a real stupid looking one on Sydney harbour), we've got car punts that ferry cars across rivers by pulling cables fixed on either side, but nothing quite like the pics.
Doesn't look like it'd handle much swell at all

turnip_tick
06-29-2006, 03:30 AM
got some of these

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c383/superflea1/105fastfoss.jpg

Celeon999
06-29-2006, 04:45 AM
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1194/huebscher8eu.gif


http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5043/bootsunfall1ss.jpg

bunkerratt
06-29-2006, 05:19 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif..finally.. a picture of wilhelm shulz's first command... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif..all stop finished with engines..

The_Silent_O
06-29-2006, 05:23 AM
Hey "Blasto"

Is that the Mississippi River???

for everybody else This is what they normally "push" and I've seen them push a lot more barges than this...

http://ntweb.deltastate.edu/VP_Academic/bbrown/MS%20River%20barge.JPG

blastomatic1759
06-29-2006, 07:31 AM
yeah , thats the mississippi. yeah i took those pictures when they werent doing anything. actually they were swapping engines on one , and the other one was standing by waiting for their north bound tow to be built.as far as swells go , well swells suck in these boats. ive had that green and white one in nearly 4 feet, out in the mississippi sounds , i thought it was funny , but the deckhand kept saying were gonna die. but the bigger boats keep their engine room doors shut due to the harbor tug and ship swells , and yeah they shove more than that sometimes . ive seen the line boats come down with 48 loads before , i have seen 50 before. ive got a few pics of some tows , i didnt take the picture of the one with the aerial view though.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/ROB_A_KYLE_RECORD.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/101_1321.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/101_0850.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/19.jpg

turnip_tick
06-29-2006, 09:00 AM
i was looking for a picture of the barge tugs but i couldn't find one, so that one was the best i could come up with. on the columbia river they use very similar looking boats to tow chip barges. they tow them with a long huge chaincause the wood chips in the barges is piled so high they couldnt see over the top.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c383/superflea1/53293903.jpg

blastomatic1759
06-29-2006, 10:28 AM
ahh woodchips , we used to shove from the arkansas river , down to convent la. the neat thing about fog , is that you will be pushed into the bank at night waiting on the fog to clear , while other boats pass you buy. woodchips are hot when they load them , so at night when they cool off they create their own fogbank. my mom took this pic of us shoving out of lock 7 on the arkansas. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/BoattrashBill/23.jpg

turnip_tick
06-30-2006, 03:19 AM
i used to deliver wood chips in a truck to assorted paper mills i would unload a truckload next to a barge being unloaded and those things are huge, they would hold hundreds of truckloads. it would take them a week working 24/7 to unload a barge using an overhead crane with a bucket on the end. those look like small barges your pushing but none the less i think that might be a fun job.

every time i cross the columbia river in to Astoria OR i can see a coast guard cutter and usually two or three container ships out there, the river is three miles wide at that point, and i think man i could sneak up there and send three torps into that container and one in to that cutter before they would know i was coming. so i wonder, do you ever look for periscopes. I know there is at least one WWII sub tied up on the arkansas a few miles down river from tulsa

blastomatic1759
06-30-2006, 03:28 AM
i never look for scopes but i stare at the ships transiting the harbor , and think " i would hit it there." it didnt make sense to me what they did with the chips. they sold the chips to Japan , they made particle board with it , and then the U.S. bought the particle board. those are just regulation barges , 195x35 (theres a few in there thats 200x35) , with a 8 foot draft its only like 1400 tons of wood chips. it takes something like 14 railroad cars to hold whats in one barge. i forgot how many trucks its takes. oh yeah the Razorback , its tied up in Little Rock . theyre still kinda working on it, they wouldnt let anyone go in the connning tower at the time i went. our guide was kinda lost though. i remember he said they improved the conning tower to make it more aerodynamic ( i thought it was hydrodynamic myself) and i asked him "oooh it can fly?" he looked at me like i was stupid and the whole group cracked up lauging , i think they knew what i was talking about.

turnip_tick
06-30-2006, 03:41 AM
the sub im talking about was in OK i forget the name of the boat or even what town its in. its been years since i been to OK.

aha i found it. the USS batfish in Muskogee oklahoma

one reason japan gets so much of our wood logs included is of course because they don't have any themselves, and the reason they make particle board then sell it back has to do with enviromental regulations here. it is VERY VERY expensive to build a new mill here in WA state with all the red tape and such. its just not worth it. as mills close down its hard for a given plant site to reopen without spending millions of dollars to bring it up to code. japan doesn't have those problems so they can make the product and ship it back here and still allow a lower retail price than would be possible for GP or WEYCO to do it if they built a shiny new mill.

blastomatic1759
06-30-2006, 08:04 AM
cool , i never knew there was one in OK. i always wondered why they did that , i always figured it was just one of those trade things. you gotta love the way they do stuff sometimes. ive taken offshore pieces from a ship to a barge only to be loaded onto another ship , but the thing is the ship we took the pieces off of , passed right by where they had to go, which was somewhere in africa. , on the way over here.

turnip_tick
06-30-2006, 01:07 PM
a lot of times it is trade related, for example in the us we cant trade with cuba but canada can, and we can trade with canada, so some quick repackaging and voila cuban cigars for all

blastomatic1759
06-30-2006, 02:43 PM
my roomate brings stuff like home , that youre not supposed to have . he was working at MSC , hes sailing union now , but he used to drag all kinda neat stuff out of his bag , Cuban cigars, Absinthe , the stuff normally you dont get here.