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antonio_f
05-07-2005, 12:15 PM
I used the search and didn't find the topic, and I'm not sure where to put it (since it's PF I put it in PF) Anyway... I'm flying USAAF campaign, ARMY pilot, P-40. I found a few bugs. One major one is the fuel gauge does not work. It is ALWAYS at 5 (or about 1/8 tank.) This is a major problem especially on strike escort missions. I shouldn't have to explain why knowing how much fuel you have is important. The other bug I noticed so far is that when I land at the airbase I heard the sound of an aircraft carrier! The same sound you hear when you take off / land on one. Anybody else notice these problems or any more?

antonio_f
05-07-2005, 12:15 PM
I used the search and didn't find the topic, and I'm not sure where to put it (since it's PF I put it in PF) Anyway... I'm flying USAAF campaign, ARMY pilot, P-40. I found a few bugs. One major one is the fuel gauge does not work. It is ALWAYS at 5 (or about 1/8 tank.) This is a major problem especially on strike escort missions. I shouldn't have to explain why knowing how much fuel you have is important. The other bug I noticed so far is that when I land at the airbase I heard the sound of an aircraft carrier! The same sound you hear when you take off / land on one. Anybody else notice these problems or any more?

Atomic_Marten
05-07-2005, 02:44 PM
P40 B&C have functional gauges, no problem there. E&M model do not have fuel gauge, just low fuel warning light in left upper corner of cockpit.

Sounds of guns are also 'buggish' in some cases.. you can heard MK108s miles away, and sometimes ShKAS 7,62mm also.(Have noticed those the most). No big deal. IMO.

antonio_f
05-07-2005, 05:13 PM
the P-40E DOES have a fuel gauge. every plane has one it's extremely important. it's at the bottom-right (the 3 style kind with oil temp. pressure, and fuel level.)

And it works when playing quick missions. In campaign mode it's stuck on 5 all the time (1/8th tank)

Check again.

Atomic_Marten
05-07-2005, 06:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by antonio_f:
the P-40E DOES have a fuel gauge. every plane has one it's extremely important. it's at the bottom-right (the 3 style kind with oil temp. pressure, and fuel level.)

And it works when playing quick missions. In campaign mode it's stuck on 5 all the time (1/8th tank)

Check again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The three style gauge features Oil temperature (upper half), oil pressure (left) and fuel pressure (right). So no fuel level there. Well, compare P40B cockpit with cockpit of E model. They both got three style gauge, but E lacks fuel gauge.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Most of the Yaks also do not have fuel level gauge, as well as some others.

About P40Bs fuel tanks, I started campaign in Pearl (for test only). Scrambled and got fuel leak while attacking Val. Shortly after I have spotted that my fuel level is dropping. Everything was OK, then.

Try it. It would be also helpful if you say on what type of P40 fuel gauge isn't working?

Atomic_Marten
05-07-2005, 06:10 PM
Take a look;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/Atomic_Marten/PF%20shots/P40gau.jpg

1. Low fuel warning light
2. Magnetic compass
3. Artificial horizon
4. Overheat warning light
5. Turn and bank indicator
6. Airspeed indicator
7. Altimeter
8. Variometer
9. Manifold pressure gauge
10. Carburetor intake air temperature gauge
11. Coolant temperature gauge
12. Flaps and landing gear position indicator
13. Clock
14. Tachometer
15. Magnetic compass
16. Oil pressure
17. Oil temperature (upper half), oil pressure (left) and fuel pressure (right)
18. Throttle
19. Propeler pitch lever

Waldo.Pepper
05-07-2005, 08:40 PM
Am I not correct in saying that fuel gauges in planes of the era commonly only started to measure fuel on approx the last 20-25% of the total volume that the plane carried. Therefore, you would have to use most of the available fuel before the guage started to show some loss of fuel from usage or leakage?

Perhaps the poster should check this.

Atomic_Marten
05-08-2005, 04:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
Am I not correct in saying that fuel gauges in planes of the era commonly only started to measure fuel on approx the last 20-25% of the total volume that the plane carried. Therefore, you would have to use most of the available fuel before the guage started to show some loss of fuel from usage or leakage?

Perhaps the poster should check this. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The thing you described was indeed common among WW2 fighters. It can be seen on MiG, LA.. they all start to 'count' their fuel after their engines consume certain level of fuel. That is why the pointer on fuel gauge is not moving. At first. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

P40Bs pointer on fuel gauge start to move after approx. ~14min. of flight.

antonio_f
05-09-2005, 03:42 PM
Sorry I didn't realize it was fuel PRESSURE. I swear I saw the same gauge on another plane where the meter for the fuel was at the top.

I don't know why they wouldn't put a fuel gauge on an aircraft. Knowing how much fuel you have is so important. I did Pearl Harbour, but that is a B model P-40. I'm doing the campaign, where after Pearl Harbour you fly a P-40E in New Guinea.

antonio_f
05-09-2005, 03:46 PM
I've noticed other bugs, particularly with Autopilot. I realize this is not a normal autopilot as in a modern fighter, but a sort of simulation of the pilot in the plane. I think it flies WAY too close to the ground for one thing, sometimes it doesn't seem to respond and the plane just continues along it's last course.

The worst part is landing. It worked fine in Il-2, but in PF I cannot recall the autopilot once landing my plane. This was a problem until I started landing myself, but sometimes u might wanna run to the washroom or something and can't wait you know? :P

The WORST part is the air traffic controller. Who (autopilot or manual) will clear other aircraft to land after giving you clearance. I have almost crashed into other planes coming up behind me because they were giving clearance to land after me!

Atomic_Marten
05-09-2005, 04:08 PM
To be honest with you, I always engage it while in career mode. Flights would be just to long if you decided to fly it without autopilot and time compression.
For pacific theatre, impossible (otherwise you can say goodbye to your real life -- one average mission is 1h30min long).

I didn't noticed any major problems with autopilot while in normal flight or while take off/landing.

One tip; if you notice that your fuel is running low and you're on autopilot, if you are flight leader, you can issue order return to base. All aircraft in your flight including yours will attempt to return to base.(helps if you're flying on full real)

Two usual problems may be;
one-if you do not have enough fuel, and there is a lot of planes landing, you can sometimes run outta fuel and crash/etc.
two-sometimes when flying low, crashing in ground (affects some types more than others).

I have also seen in eastern front that sometimes my plane can collide with other friendly plane while in time skipping mode. Never experienced it on PTO.

In past, there were some more issues with autopilot, like friendly fire.

antonio_f
05-10-2005, 11:43 AM
It's funny I remember more now. In PF, friendly damaged planes go down too easy. I mean, I've had a damaged plane, and flew home. One time I was hit in the engine (P-40E.) I had the oil on the windshield, engine smoking, and shut off. I tried starting it, it worked. Then died. I tried again. After three attempts I got the engine running again. I managed to crash=land safely. I found that AI Allied planes can have the most MINOR damage to their plane, and they crash. Maddox Games should really address all these issues!

adadaead
05-11-2005, 02:01 PM
Atomic_Marter don't you just love this game i mean all those 17 guages move and your post with a picture should included as advertisement and training on every Il-2 box or manual. You just made me apreciate this game more.

I learned new word today: variometer.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Atomic_Marten
05-11-2005, 02:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by adadaead:
Atomic_Marter don't you just love this game i mean all those 17 guages move and your post with a picture should included as advertisement and training on every Il-2 box or manual. You just made me apreciate this game more.

I learned new word today: variometer.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks m8, glad to hear that. I have collect a bunch of data and pictures of all kind about WW2 aircraft and FB/PF game.

Here is the link for the info about cockpit references (gauges and meaning), you will also find there info about armament. You will find cockpit reference for your favourite bird there.
http://free-st.htnet.hr/dvd/

ABQc_Shark
05-12-2005, 11:06 AM
S!

Here's a link for cockpit of alomot all planes that are in the game

http://www.partizanska-eskadrila.com/reference/cockpit.htm