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p1ngu666
10-05-2005, 04:46 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4313978.stm

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wonder what ran off with the head http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

MEGILE
10-05-2005, 04:51 PM
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ARCHIE_CALVERT
10-05-2005, 05:14 PM
If you had to choose, which would you like to be... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

danjama
10-05-2005, 05:46 PM
That is sooooo funny. Thankyou so much! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

major_setback
10-05-2005, 05:53 PM
Well..it's just like I've always said: My motto - 'make sure it's dead before you eat it!'


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FlatSpinMan
10-05-2005, 07:22 PM
What is this? Disturbing animal-related posts day? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

bolillo_loco
10-05-2005, 08:29 PM
just one more reason not to live in Florida.

HotelBushranger
10-05-2005, 09:14 PM
What the hell? I don't even know which parts which...far out

fordfan25
10-05-2005, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by bolillo_loco:
just one more reason not to live in Florida.

yea the other reson is all the yankees flooding us on there vacation http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif wich leads to the resone for me owning so many guns as well as a dozer blade on the frount of my truck."yanks cant drive for spit" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif j/k... sorta

fordfan25
10-05-2005, 09:28 PM
reminds me of the first time i tried a condum LMAO

LEBillfish
10-05-2005, 09:35 PM
We found a 50" Northern Pike belly up in our lake, half out of its mouth was a huge blue gill. Apparently the pike decided he couldn't swallow it so tried to spit it out, yet the BlueGills spines got caught in the roof of it's mouth so apparenly it couldn't breathe.

Ah justice for the meek.....how poetic. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

diomedes33
10-05-2005, 09:53 PM
Goes to show if you never give up, you can at least break even.

wayno7777
10-05-2005, 10:37 PM
Something doesn't seem right, constrictors usually don't release to swallow until the prey is dead....

wayno7777
10-05-2005, 10:38 PM
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was gonna say something doesn't seem right cause constrictors usually don't release their grip until the prey is dead. Then I thought about it and realised the gator's front claws probably did the damage....although the missing head could be the sign of a hoax?....

fordfan25
10-05-2005, 11:27 PM
coulda bit its own head off. did you stop to think of that? hu ? i didnt think so. man what a n00b http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif j/k

Archangel2980
10-05-2005, 11:37 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif That's crazy.

LEXX_Luthor
10-05-2005, 11:41 PM
7777::
Something doesn't seem right, constrictors usually don't release to swallow until the prey is dead....
Maybe Pythons mostly go after mammals, and not large reptiles that have much less "life" ... ie breathing.

Alligators don't use much oxygen for their size...normally...of course it would be involved in the fight and so would consume more than normal. They can hold their breath for an hour or two when not active, so maybe the Python thought it was dead. mmm...I dunno!!!

Friendly_flyer
10-05-2005, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by wayno7777:
constrictors usually don't release their grip until the prey is dead.

The Burmese python may not have been used to crocodylians. Killing an alligator is not like taking on some poor, unsuspecting deer. The alligators slow metabolism may have made the snake think its meal was good and dead, only to come too halfway down the esophagus.

ploughman
10-06-2005, 02:09 AM
You couldn't make this **** up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

p1ngu666
10-06-2005, 07:21 AM
could also have been just too big and *pop*

WOLFMondo
10-06-2005, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bolillo_loco:
just one more reason not to live in Florida.

yea the other reson is all the yankees flooding us on there vacation http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif wich leads to the resone for me owning so many guns as well as a dozer blade on the frount of my truck."yanks cant drive for spit" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif j/k... sorta </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Heh...you sound like that guy on one of the radio stations from Grand Theft Auto Vice City.

VV_Holdenb
10-06-2005, 08:05 AM
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Suppose that one goes down as an
"an apparent draw" then ?

major_setback
10-06-2005, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
reminds me of the first time i tried a condum LMAO

Lose your head?

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Airmail109
10-06-2005, 10:23 AM
How sodding stupid can nature/or that snake get. What made that snake think "mmmmm that Aligator, with tough skin that i wont be able to digest...massive teeth and a body almost as big as me looks tasty....I think ill try and eat that" or it attacked the crock in self defence and decided to try and swallow it hole for the hell of it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Stupid Snake.....i mean come on thats the height of animal stupidity...what the hell would try swallowing a crock...whole? Anyway....kinda sucks that the alligators now have competition from animals which arnt native to the habitat. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Pirschjaeger
10-06-2005, 11:45 AM
Hey guyz, I'm in China. I can get CNN, ABC, DW, almost any news provider but the BBC has always been blocked. Must be the most accurate. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Would somebody mind posting the story or pic or whatever it is?

Thx
Fritz

VV_Holdenb
10-06-2005, 12:29 PM
hi Pirschjaeger
The pic for you, it doesn't help with
understanding why http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/holdenbj/snakeandcroc.jpg

Pirschjaeger
10-06-2005, 01:16 PM
Ha ha ha, thx Holden. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Heartburn, indigestion, ulcer the size of a croc?

For fast relief, trust Tum, ta tum, tum, tums.

Fritz

Lucius_Esox
10-06-2005, 01:22 PM
Hmm, I sorta feel like that after a beer and a curry.. It's nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif Anyone remember Mr Creasote (think right spellin) "just one more morsel sir" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

VV_Holdenb
10-06-2005, 02:21 PM
Better.
Better get a bucket..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

DaimonSyrius
10-06-2005, 03:29 PM
It makes you think, well if plain Pythons can get that crazy, just imagine what Monty Pythons can do
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S.

XyZspineZyX
10-06-2005, 03:46 PM
the end result of overmodelling maybe???

Estocade85
10-06-2005, 03:58 PM
Maybe the gator clawed and severly wounded the python's midsection, so when the python swallowed the gator, the belly just couldn't hold it and splat.

Head must have been eaten off by swamp scavangers.

Funny though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Friendly_flyer
10-06-2005, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Aimail101:
How sodding stupid can nature/or that snake get.

Pretty stupid, I can assure you. As zoologist, I have had the dubious pleasure of being a snake handler on occasion. If there's a vertebrate stupid enough to try it out on an alligator the same size as it self, it would be the pythons. A few goldfish are in the same class, most other vertebrates (including slime hags) are just a tad smarter.

And Pingue, I must concur, it might simply be a bad case of over eating.

horseback
10-06-2005, 04:12 PM
Read an article about this in my local rag; the final two or three paragraphs offered a few interesting (and disgusting) theories:

1. the gator was still alive and started kicking its hind legs

2. This one is too good not to quote directly:'Mazzotti (University of Florida wildlife prof) said a similar scenario could have happened even if the gator were dead because of a quirk of its nervous system. Until its spinal cord is severed and literally stirred into jelly with a special tool, he said, "a dead gator gives a remarkably good imitation of being alive. One of the things they do is they move their legs like thy're walking. Those claws are pretty sharp. It could tear through the skin.""

3. Mazzotti again: "...it's also plausible that the python scavenged a dead gator. Then time, decay and heat could explain what happened next: a nasty blowout of the snake's body."

As to speculations about the snake's intelligence, I suspect that it's not too bright, possibly bordering on the level of awareness that your garden variety frog possesses. A frog reflexively shoots out its tongue at anything that vaguely resembles a fly or mosquito buzzing by. A Burmese python may hardwired (as the biggest predator in its native habitat) to naturally assume that anything it 'sees' moving as a potential meal.

cheers

horseback

Friendly_flyer
10-06-2005, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
"...it's also plausible that the python scavenged a dead gator. Then time, decay and heat could explain what happened next: a nasty blowout of the snake's body."

The alligator lookes somewhat stiff, possibly being in rigor mortis. By the time decomposition setts in, the rigor has long since let go. Its a... facinating theory though.

sinlanchon
10-06-2005, 04:56 PM
Have you seen Toad's signature?


sin lan chon

LEXX_Luthor
10-06-2005, 06:07 PM
A guy I talked to today said the Thon could have found the alligator dead and scavenged it, and like horseback reported, could have explained the explosion -- beached whales explode sometimes when cut open, spattering people for miles (http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). He also said that Pythons naturally eat Caimens, which are alligator like reptiles, so they are used to attacking reptiles.

Pirschjaeger
10-06-2005, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aimail101:
How sodding stupid can nature/or that snake get.

Pretty stupid, I can assure you. As zoologist, I have had the dubious pleasure of being a snake handler on occasion. If there's a vertebrate stupid enough to try it out on an alligator the same size as it self, it would be the pythons. A few goldfish are in the same class, most other vertebrates (including slime hags) are just a tad smarter.

And Pingue, I must concur, it might simply be a bad case of over eating. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When I was in school I had a part time job in the local pet store. You meet a lot of people with odd pets this way. Anyways, I got the idea to make weekly exhibitions to attract customers. My list of people with odd pets was long and typically, these people love to show off their animals. I borrowed an 11 ft python and held it for people to see. Twice, this moronic reptilian crawled into me shirt sleeve, starting from the collar and twice we had to cut my shirt to free it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Really, there is no spark of intellegence in these creatures.

Fritz

Jetbuff
10-06-2005, 09:59 PM
How about this theory? Rigor mortis sets in while the snake is still trying to get the alligator down it's throat. (that's a big alligator and would have taken a while to swallow) Once rigor mortis sets in, between that and the sharp claws/tough scales and the rythmic swallowing contractions the snake gutted himself much like if one of us swallowed a 10" wide razor blade?

Pirschjaeger
10-07-2005, 11:00 AM
Ha ha ha, ok, you guyz won't believe this but this thread and the dimwit python have inspired me to do something I thought I'd never do.

I was in a five-star hotel tonight for dinner. Normally I am not adventurous when trying new foods. As I was exploring the buffet, empty plate in hand, I noticed the the label for one of the dishes. "Deep Fried Crocodile" was written. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

When I read it, I remembered this thread and chuckled. When my buddy asked what I was chuckling at I simply told him it's too hard to explain. Anyways, I took a chunk of croc, much smaller than our pythonic friend had choosen, and of course, clawless.

Well, really nothing special. It tastes like chicken(but then again, so many thing do) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

At this point Fritz pauses and daydreams about past relationships. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Back to the croc meat. The consistancy is also like chicken but somewhat tougher. It was pretty good actually, so I went back for more, a few times.

BTW, there seemed to be a hint of a fishy taste, but mostly chicken.

I think I'll stop here. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

Pirschjaeger
10-07-2005, 11:03 AM
Oh yes, one last detail; crocs are hairless,.... I like that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Fritz

Friendly_flyer
10-07-2005, 12:39 PM
Crocodiles are supposed to be quite good. I haven’t tasted it myself, though. I friend of mine went to Africa and had "wild buffet" at the Carnivore, a famous restaurant in Nairobi. He reported that the croc was much as Fritz reports, though the wildebeests were nothing much, in his words just "the Lords way of making grass into lions".

As for overstuffed snakes: The museum I'm working in once held an exhibition with living snakes. The big Gabon viper (Bitis gabonica, check it out in a browser) decided to have two rats in stead of one. Later on, it threw up the last one, then panicked when it smelt its former meal (actually, the whole museum stunk). Wrestling a panicking meter long snake with the build of Arnold Schwarzenegger and enough venom to kill a small elephant was a bit intense. I'm not surprised constrictors, being the dimmest of snakes, would top our Bitis gabonica in over-eating.

p1ngu666
10-07-2005, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Oh yes, one last detail; crocs are hairless,.... I like that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Fritz

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cold blooded too, tho that is mostly after marriage http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Pirschjaeger
10-07-2005, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Oh yes, one last detail; crocs are hairless,.... I like that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Fritz

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cold blooded too, tho that is mostly after marriage http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Before marriage I always referred to the marriage certificate as "A license to fu...". After getting married I realized the importance of reading the fine print. It's actually and "agreement to stop". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

wayno7777
10-07-2005, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Oh yes, one last detail; crocs are hairless,.... I like that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Fritz

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cold blooded too, tho that is mostly after marriage http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Before marriage I always referred to the marriage certificate as "A license to fu...". After getting married I realized the importance of reading the fine print. It's actually and "agreement to stop". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We live and learn..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

edit: although a few guys I know never learn....