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Jamesnew2
11-04-2010, 03:36 PM
Seriously for once in your life ubi please post the pc version at the same time as the consoles. Your Uplay youtube vid showed that u were only thinking of the xbox and the ps3. I preoreded the codex edition i dont want the prospect of it being delayed like my ac2 black edition was. Sort it out. Please?

magesupermaster
11-04-2010, 03:38 PM
The PC version will come out February 22th.
Until that, I think you could wait a while.
Sorry, but there is nothing you can do.

AubreyWilborn
11-04-2010, 04:54 PM
Jamesnew, I feel your pain. Perhaps even more than you do. I pre-ordered the PC game from Best Buy in late May, when the option first became available. I saw the pictures myself-the DVD case was already created, the thing seemed like it was ready to drop right then. But "hey, it's cool, I can wait till November", I told myself. Then September comes around and they delay the PC version, eventually causing ALL PC pre-orders to be voided by late October. I wonder if PC owners will ever even be able to pre-order the game at all?

I have a request for any Ubisoft mod/employee/whatever who reads these forums. If y'all are gonna delay the PC release-DON'T allow people to pre-order the game nearly ten months in advance. It lulls people into a false sense of contentment-thinking that they'll be able to play a game much earlier that they will.

You guys could be alot more honest, and organized about revealing when you all are gonna release games. If you're gonna hold the PC release back, SAY THAT AT THE BEGINNING! Say it right off the bat. Make a statement saying " we're gonna release console versions at such and such a date, and the PC version at such and such a date". It would be a lot fairer to PC gamers, who still actually comprise a healthy chunk of the gaming market.

LCGuardian
11-04-2010, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by magesupermaster:
The PC version will come out February 22th.
Until that, I think you could wait a while.
Sorry, but there is nothing you can do.

Isn't that just speculation? I haven't seen anything more specific than Q1 2011, and based on the AC2 experience I wouldn't expect to hear anything about a firm release date before January.

omniwargreymon
11-05-2010, 05:42 AM
So,on play.com it says March 25th 2011.On gamestop.com ferbruary 11th 2011.On ubishop spring 2011.Can we at least have an official release date please?I was about to order the limited codex edition and now i don't know what to do!

DarkicoN14
11-05-2010, 06:21 AM
There are 2 options for PC gamers 1: Just get over it

2:buy a console and play the game earlir

most likely the first option

FaTaLMeTaL
11-05-2010, 12:19 PM
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

Windrius
11-05-2010, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars.

Mr_Shade
11-05-2010, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong! Which is a bit like saying:


The inside of the planet mercury is melted cheese..



No one can prove me wrong either.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


The PC version has been rescheduled to Q1 2011 - for whatever reason.. At present we don't have any official statement as to why it's delayed other than whats already been said..



We just have to ALL accept that, or decide to buy the console version..

I waited for AC2 on PC - then played it on Xbox anyway.. since my TV = bigger http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SteelCity999
11-05-2010, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by magesupermaster:
The PC version will come out February 22th.
Until that, I think you could wait a while.
Sorry, but there is nothing you can do.

Isn't that just speculation? I haven't seen anything more specific than Q1 2011, and based on the AC2 experience I wouldn't expect to hear anything about a firm release date before January. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Considering there was an interview just recently stating there will be supposed DLC in March 2011, I would bet - and I haven't heard this anywhere - that the PC will be released in March along with the DLC that is slated for the same month...much like AC2. Of course, this is just speculation and nothing has been "officially announced" but based on past experience and recent interviews, I would bet that is the case.

LCGuardian
11-05-2010, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by SteelCity999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LCGuardian:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by magesupermaster:
The PC version will come out February 22th.
Until that, I think you could wait a while.
Sorry, but there is nothing you can do.

Isn't that just speculation? I haven't seen anything more specific than Q1 2011, and based on the AC2 experience I wouldn't expect to hear anything about a firm release date before January. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Considering there was an interview just recently stating there will be supposed DLC in March 2011, I would bet - and I haven't heard this anywhere - that the PC will be released in March along with the DLC that is slated for the same month...much like AC2. Of course, this is just speculation and nothing has been "officially announced" but based on past experience and recent interviews, I would bet that is the case. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Seems right. Given AC1 for PC was an early April release, and AC2 for PC was an early March release, I think its pretty unlikely that we will see ACB before March 2011. And this speculation about the DLC, with the example of the AC2 DLC to go by, seems to confirm this.

AubreyWilborn
11-05-2010, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay.

AnthonyA85
11-05-2010, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay.

I agree with this. IF ubisoft really wanted to ensure the security of the pc version, they'd strike a deal with Steam, and have the PC version use Steam as it's DRM (like Creative Assembly did the the latest TW games)

They'll probably have to use steam for the multiplayer anyways, i mean, what else are they gonna use?

persiateddy95
11-05-2010, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
The PC version has been rescheduled to Q1 2011 - for whatever reason.. At present we don't have any official statement as to why it's delayed other than whats already been said..
It was delayed by the same reason AC 1 and AC 2 were.

MT4K
11-05-2010, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by AnthonyA85:
They'll probably have to use steam for the multiplayer anyways, i mean, what else are they gonna use?

gamespy.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

zomgcookie
11-05-2010, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> First of all, you probably wont care, but black ops is made by Trayarch not Infinity ward. Second of all Blizzard is a pc game based company and DICE makes battlefield games which allow more people in multiplayer games only on PC and that makes the PC version better which is why they release it on the same date as the cash cow releases. Of course Black Ops will outsell ACB on every platform, CoD games are so simple that everybody buys them and people buy it because all their friends have it, its fun/sometimes, and the game introduces new things every time. Boohoo the PC release date got pushed back, what can you possibly do? Demand an explanation, what will that do? You seem to think they are intentionally shafting loyal fans and i find that disrespectful when they are such an epic group. Stuff happens, the weatherman was wrong and your plans are ruined, are you gonna demand to know why it wasn't sunny out?

Iskander_Estel
11-05-2010, 07:18 PM
i totally agree with Zomgcookie... it's not like they were getting fun doing this.

DarkicoN14
11-05-2010, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well obviously you didnt read my full post, PC gamers need to suck it up for awhile

oh yeah and you dont know your cod developers because treyarch is developing black ops.

AubreyWilborn
11-06-2010, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by zomgcookie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> First of all, you probably wont care, but black ops is made by Trayarch not Infinity ward. Second of all Blizzard is a pc game based company and DICE makes battlefield games which allow more people in multiplayer games only on PC and that makes the PC version better which is why they release it on the same date as the cash cow releases. Of course Black Ops will outsell ACB on every platform, CoD games are so simple that everybody buys them and people buy it because all their friends have it, its fun/sometimes, and the game introduces new things every time. Boohoo the PC release date got pushed back, what can you possibly do? Demand an explanation, what will that do? You seem to think they are intentionally shafting loyal fans and i find that disrespectful when they are such an epic group. Stuff happens, the weatherman was wrong and your plans are ruined, are you gonna demand to know why it wasn't sunny out? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So treyarch is doing Black Ops, and not Infinity ward? I stand corrected. Sure, the AC team is an "epic" group, lol. But they would be a lot more "epic" if they would get their stuff straight when it comes to releasing PC games. And how do I know that all the crap they're doing is NOT intentional? ALot of it seems intentional-they very well might be getting fun out of all this.

Also, you can't quite compare the PC delay to the weatherman making a bad weather prediction. Weathermen don't create and develop the weather, like Ubisoft does with AC games. Like I said, Ubisoft still owes PC gamers a firm, commited release date. All you console gamers don't care about all of this, but if Ubisoft was giving you guys the shaft, you all would be singing the same song I am.


And one more time-the PC delay wouldn't be such a big deal if Ubisoft hadn't ALLOWED PC GAMERS TO PRE-ORDER THE PC VERSION IN MAY 2010, FOR A NOVEMBER RELEASE! That right there is dishonest, crooked business. Who does that?

Don't let people pre-order something when you don't even know when you'll release the product.

dlonewolf1994
11-06-2010, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong! Which is a bit like saying:


The inside of the planet mercury is melted cheese ..



No one can prove me wrong either.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


The PC version has been rescheduled to Q1 2011 - for whatever reason.. At present we don't have any official statement as to why it's delayed other than whats already been said..



We just have to ALL accept that, or decide to buy the console version..

I waited for AC2 on PC - then played it on Xbox anyway.. since my TV = bigger http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL, i noticed you post alot of things that have to do with cheese shade, u sure love your cheese http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

mustangmaniak20
11-06-2010, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
OMG Are you saying Ford is inferior to Chrisler?
Rofl.
But yeah im pretty ****ed about the delay but i can live with it.

liorchk
11-06-2010, 10:27 AM
It's sooo annoying that we need to wait Q1
imean come on then why the hell we could pre order it like 10 monthes befor the realese

and dear Mr shade i can prove you that its not melted cheese

if it would all towns near volacnos would be celebrating with melting chesse and some tostated buns


ubi you failed your coustomers again and again
(R.U.S.E AC2 ACB )

i think ACB will be my last boughted game from ubi then ill crack downloaded all other.

i'm speechless

Keighvin
11-06-2010, 12:35 PM
Been to a lot of towns on Mercury, have we?

Jamesnew2
11-12-2010, 10:12 AM
Ok so yeah at the first lot i felt all the pain a lot more cause i didnt actually get to play it till july was gonna get it for xmas but the delay meant my mum kept ac2 from me to my b-day in july >.> The xbox and ps3 guys saying to suck it up can pretty much gtfo as theyre a bunch of hypocrites. i love mass effect series and if you go to the forums the ammount of people that moan about it not being on ps3 is sensational. We didnt even get a proper release date. i played ruse beta and the internet sucked and it was delayed. as for black ops i own that (its awsome) infinity ward get a small mention in it cause they lent some of the stuff from mw2. Mercury's centre is made of cheese o.O i have a villa their where ezio hangs out.
And yeah the pirate things a load of crap cause loads of people hack on the consoles its just they use it as a scapegoat. so meh. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif oh and i didnt spend 1000 quid on a gaming pc to buy a console that breaks thx to red rings or a flashing light. Sigh* Rage over.

Razrback16
11-12-2010, 10:17 AM
We all feel your pain, James. The PC crowd is being treated like second class citizens, and how much sense does it make to release the game on the inferior platforms first? lol.

Razrback16
11-12-2010, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
There are 2 options for PC gamers 1: Just get over it

2:buy a console and play the game earlir

most likely the first option

You're right, #1 is pretty much the only option. Most people don't want to downgrade to a console.

Razrback16
11-12-2010, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by AnthonyA85:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay.

I agree with this. IF ubisoft really wanted to ensure the security of the pc version, they'd strike a deal with Steam, and have the PC version use Steam as it's DRM (like Creative Assembly did the the latest TW games)

They'll probably have to use steam for the multiplayer anyways, i mean, what else are they gonna use? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm glad they haven't decided to use Steam. That would be even worse, and a lot of people wouldn't touch it because Steam is even more intrusive. I would definitely be one that would never buy it if it was on Steam.

M1ba
11-12-2010, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I totally agree with you. You sayd pretty much everything i am feeling.

AubreyWilborn
11-12-2010, 02:47 PM
Yeah, man. I'm such an AC fan that I'll be buying the game whenever it comes out. But this PC delay DOES NOT make any sense. At all. If Ubisoft makes more AC games for the PC, I hope this is the last one they mess with.

taintedflesh221
11-16-2010, 08:39 AM
............................I better keep this short because i am BOILING WITH ****ING ANGER...I used to look all over then noticed how accurate IGN is for release dates. I see NOVEMBER 16, 2010. I been tracking it for months, got all excited last night and started AC 2 to get my AC killin sprees going. I had it reserved at gamestop, I saw the commercials on TV which said NOVEMBER 16 2010. Stayed up all night to wait till morning, and started to see reviews, the peeps playin some kind of post..Wierd I couldn't find 1. Then I stumble across this....Really? I get that the PC gaming market may generate a small income comparing to console for you guys. Im thrilled your releasing it on PC still, unlike Gears of War 2 of Call of Duty 3 which apparently those companies denied us from thin air and didn't keep the series on the same machine. But COME ON the least you could do is drop a damn E-mail or pick the phone up and spend a few hours informing sites and people the release date. By not doing that, people get ****ed, and your losing money because of it. Angry people may create the Crack, release their Torrent of the game, start bad reviews turning new players away. 2 hours, costed you guys alot of money imo.

R4AC2
11-16-2010, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by taintedflesh221:
............................I better keep this short because i am BOILING WITH ****ING ANGER...I used to look all over then noticed how accurate IGN is for release dates. I see NOVEMBER 16, 2010. I been tracking it for months, got all excited last night and started AC 2 to get my AC killin sprees going. I had it reserved at gamestop, I saw the commercials on TV which said NOVEMBER 16 2010. Stayed up all night to wait till morning, and started to see reviews, the peeps playin some kind of post..Wierd I couldn't find 1. Then I stumble across this....Really? I get that the PC gaming market may generate a small income comparing to console for you guys. Im thrilled your releasing it on PC still, unlike Gears of War 2 of Call of Duty 3 which apparently those companies denied us from thin air and didn't keep the series on the same machine. But COME ON the least you could do is drop a damn E-mail or pick the phone up and spend a few hours informing sites and people the release date. By not doing that, people get ****ed, and your losing money because of it. Angry people may create the Crack, release their Torrent of the game, start bad reviews turning new players away. 2 hours, costed you guys alot of money imo.

I totally agree. I agree with everyone who is against buying consoles and who is mad at Ubisoft for making the release date much later.
One possible reason for the delay is that the PC varies much more than consoles. This means that Ubisoft has to look over the game and see if they can find any possible glitches or problems with the game. this could take weeks.

But not months. If that is the reason, then I will seriously doubt the capabilities of Ubisoft. Ubisoft is a successful company with large technological resources. Finding the bugs in the game, with the equipment they have, is trivial and should have been accomplished months before November 16.

To you who think that PC gamers should "suck it up," The PC is the reason you get to play any of your precious video games. I don't have enough time to play video games, but the Assassin's Creed series was one that I could not resist becoming interested in. If you homos knew your history you would understand that every xbox and ps3 is a small computer.

The PC came first. It was this machine that started the somewhat extraordinary push to create video games. Black Ops (first shooters suck) would not be here. Halo Reach (worst game series EVER) would not be here. Gears of War, Half Life, Fallout, Borderlands, would all not be here if it were not for the PC.

The PC deserves respect. Ubisoft refuses to treat human beings (pc users) with respect, but they should at least give the PC, the reason they are a company, enough attention to actually set a release date and do the last minute stuff before, not after, the console versions come out.

Razrback16
11-16-2010, 11:05 AM
I agree with everyone who is against buying consoles

Certainly -- why would PC users DOWNGRADE their platform to play on something with inferior graphics, image quality, and lacking the ability to upgrade. It's laughable. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S1lent0ne
11-16-2010, 02:32 PM
I'm not going to get drawn into a philosophical debate of PC vs Console. They are at least equal in some respects so the issue becomes why the PC version is being delayed.

I think we all know that one of the more obvious culprits is DRM as this is the one major thing that sets the PC software apart.

Ubisoft, you have a documented case of a loss of sale directly related to this needless delay. I was going to go to the store and pay full price for it, but now I am angry, and I feel obligated to obtain the game free of cost.

muzzyb
11-16-2010, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by S1lent0ne:
I'm not going to get drawn into a philosophical debate of PC vs Console. They are at least equal in some respects so the issue becomes why the PC version is being delayed.

I think we all know that one of the more obvious culprits is DRM as this is the one major thing that sets the PC software apart.

Ubisoft, you have a documented case of a loss of sale directly related to this needless delay. I was going to go to the store and pay full price for it, but now I am angry, and I feel obligated to obtain the game free of cost.

We all know you've got no chance of getting the game free just because your unhappy with the delay.

Razrback16
11-16-2010, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by S1lent0ne:
I'm not going to get drawn into a philosophical debate of PC vs Console. They are at least equal in some respects so the issue becomes why the PC version is being delayed.

Probably smart not to get drawn into such a debate. It's like arguing about whether or not the earth is round, and if arguing for the console side, trying to argue the 15th century's initial view on it.

I think the only battle the console can win is your next point below --


Originally posted by S1lent0ne:
I think we all know that one of the more obvious culprits is DRM as this is the one major thing that sets the PC software apart.

And what's ironic about that is that the XBOX version is up on torrent sites right now for download, lol. Good job Ubisoft, way to fail on an epic scale.


Originally posted by S1lent0ne:
Ubisoft, you have a documented case of a loss of sale directly related to this needless delay. I was going to go to the store and pay full price for it, but now I am angry, and I feel obligated to obtain the game free of cost.

lol, wish I had your drive. I would pre-order the game and pay $80 for it retail if it was released at the same time as the console games and was DRM free. But I'll wait until it's $20 or less before I pick it up.

Razrback16
11-16-2010, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by muzzyb:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by S1lent0ne:
I'm not going to get drawn into a philosophical debate of PC vs Console. They are at least equal in some respects so the issue becomes why the PC version is being delayed.

I think we all know that one of the more obvious culprits is DRM as this is the one major thing that sets the PC software apart.

Ubisoft, you have a documented case of a loss of sale directly related to this needless delay. I was going to go to the store and pay full price for it, but now I am angry, and I feel obligated to obtain the game free of cost.

We all know you've got no chance of getting the game free just because your unhappy with the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He's actually got a pretty good chance at it based on his platform. If he has an XBOX, the XBOX version has been up on torrent sites for at least the last 3-5 days. If he's using a PC it will be a little longer.

realgangsta213
11-16-2010, 03:16 PM
So you'll wait for it to go down to $20 for about how long? 8 month? you'll be the person missing out on a great game.

Razrback16
11-16-2010, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by realgangsta213:
So you'll wait for it to go down to $20 for about how long? 8 month? you'll be the person missing out on a great game.

From now, it'll probably be around April when I can get it for $20. When AC2 came out for PC, it only took about 4-6 weeks after release for it to drop to $20 on Amazon.com.

And to answer your question, yes I will wait that long. My principles are more important to me than self-gratification. My buddy at work just picked up the game today for his PS3, and I'd sure love to play it, but it's more important to me to be able to say I didn't give in to a company's dirty business practices and wait for the price to drop to 1/3 of its initial launch value because that's about all it's worth to me after you factor in the DRM, and Ubi essentially giving the middle finger to their PC customers. As you say, it's such an awesome game, too awesome of a game to just outright not purchase, so the $20 is my compromise. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

realgangsta213
11-16-2010, 03:25 PM
You have my respect for your self control, you truly do

Razrback16
11-16-2010, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by realgangsta213:
You have my respect for your self control, you truly do

haha thx. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

NightmareGK13
11-16-2010, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well obviously you didnt read my full post, PC gamers need to suck it up for awhile

oh yeah and you dont know your cod developers because treyarch is developing black ops. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

^
clearly not a pc gamer
we've been sucking up since AC1, thats sucking for long enough

H0t_Noodles
11-16-2010, 05:04 PM
For the Trailers, they should've worn Suits of armor and prayed like Knights Templar's. They let Console users play at an earlier time than pc users. They say oh well to pre-order I believe the Pre-order people should get there games when it comes out due to the fact they waited a while on a game they bought already. Oh isn't False Advertisement a kind of thing Knights Templar's would do ?

R4AC2
11-16-2010, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by NightmareGK13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well obviously you didnt read my full post, PC gamers need to suck it up for awhile

oh yeah and you dont know your cod developers because treyarch is developing black ops. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

^
clearly not a pc gamer
we've been sucking up since AC1, thats sucking for long enough </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are right. The xbox and ps3 users have had their games delivered to them on a silver platter while we have to watch and wait for our turn. This is also demonstrated by the fact that the Collector's Edition does not come out for the PC. If I had the time and money, I could sue Ubisoft for false advertising. In a early released picture of the Collector's Edition, a picture of a PC version of the game was displayed at the back. and yet the PC collector's edition didn't come.
Collector's Edition Rant Finished.

However, the fact that we receive inferior treatment in comparison to the console users in outrageous. If the xbox and ps3 users had to wait, they would be having little temper tantrums all over the internet.

By the way, Black Ops and Halo Reach suck really bad...

AubreyWilborn
11-16-2010, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by R4AC2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NightmareGK13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well obviously you didnt read my full post, PC gamers need to suck it up for awhile

oh yeah and you dont know your cod developers because treyarch is developing black ops. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

^
clearly not a pc gamer
we've been sucking up since AC1, thats sucking for long enough </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are right. The xbox and ps3 users have had their games delivered to them on a silver platter while we have to watch and wait for our turn. This is also demonstrated by the fact that the Collector's Edition does not come out for the PC. If I had the time and money, I could sue Ubisoft for false advertising. In a early released picture of the Collector's Edition, a picture of a PC version of the game was displayed at the back. and yet the PC collector's edition didn't come.
Collector's Edition Rant Finished.

However, the fact that we receive inferior treatment in comparison to the console users in outrageous. If the xbox and ps3 users had to wait, they would be having little temper tantrums all over the internet.

By the way, Black Ops and Halo Reach suck really bad... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Amen, preach, and pass the bible. Pray tell, Ubisoft, what, did we poor PC gamers ever do to YOU GUYS, that you would treat us like "*****"? Not only do we have to WAIT for a game that you told us would be ready in November(back in May), but you guys DON'T EVEN OFFER US ANY SPECIAL EDITIONS! What's the deal, man?


PC gamers would be bigger fans of the AC series if Ubisoft actually pretended to care about selling us the best products! Heck, just give us PC gamers A CHANCE to buy all of Brotherhood's DLC-like the Copernicus mission-and I'll be happy!

Razrback16
11-16-2010, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by R4AC2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NightmareGK13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well obviously you didnt read my full post, PC gamers need to suck it up for awhile

oh yeah and you dont know your cod developers because treyarch is developing black ops. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

^
clearly not a pc gamer
we've been sucking up since AC1, thats sucking for long enough </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are right. The xbox and ps3 users have had their games delivered to them on a silver platter while we have to watch and wait for our turn. This is also demonstrated by the fact that the Collector's Edition does not come out for the PC. If I had the time and money, I could sue Ubisoft for false advertising. In a early released picture of the Collector's Edition, a picture of a PC version of the game was displayed at the back. and yet the PC collector's edition didn't come.
Collector's Edition Rant Finished.

However, the fact that we receive inferior treatment in comparison to the console users in outrageous. If the xbox and ps3 users had to wait, they would be having little temper tantrums all over the internet.

By the way, Black Ops and Halo Reach suck really bad... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Amen, preach, and pass the bible. Pray tell, Ubisoft, what, did we poor PC gamers ever do to YOU GUYS, that you would treat us like "*****"? Not only do we have to WAIT for a game that you told us would be ready in November(back in May), but you guys DON'T EVEN OFFER US ANY SPECIAL EDITIONS! What's the deal, man?


PC gamers would be bigger fans of the AC series if Ubisoft actually pretended to care about selling us the best products! Heck, just give us PC gamers A CHANCE to buy all of Brotherhood's DLC-like the Copernicus mission-and I'll be happy! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen Brother!

FaTaLMeTaL
11-16-2010, 11:28 PM
i hope that the DEVS dont delay the 3-ed game...if they delay it im gonna explode.

Black_Widow9
11-17-2010, 12:58 AM
Please stop with the quote pyramids. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

NightmareGK13
11-17-2010, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by Black_Widow9:
Please stop with the quote pyramids. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

please deliver to us the game on time and treat us like customers, i managed to bu the black edition last year, and normal ac1, this year i'm not sure ill buy it or dl it, like i said sucking in for long enough, the developers should have thought about this before telling the release date in may and do their job to make sure it would be released on time

sorry had to do that nothing against you mate but against ubi maybe

Mr_Shade
11-17-2010, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by NightmareGK13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Black_Widow9:
Please stop with the quote pyramids. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

please deliver to us the game on time and treat us like customers, i managed to bu the black edition last year, and normal ac1, this year i'm not sure ill buy it or dl it, like i said sucking in for long enough, the developers should have thought about this before telling the release date in may and do their job to make sure it would be released on time

sorry had to do that nothing against you mate but against ubi maybe </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The game is being released in Q1 2011.. this was announce a few months back as the new date.

Yes in May it was expected to be released at the same time, however game releases do sometimes slip or get altered.

Unfortunately the PC version's release did in this case.

There is nothing anyone on these forums can do to change that - we have, as Forum Managers, reported PC owners frustrations..

However...


That does not give people any excuse to break the rules or spam quotes.


We all understand people are upset - but people need to voice that concern following the forum rules, which we will enforce should the need arise.

Windrius
11-17-2010, 05:28 AM
Lets file a lawsuit on ubisoft for false advertisement http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
Ok /spam off

Razrback16
11-17-2010, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by Windrius:
Lets file a lawsuit on ubisoft for false advertisement http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
Ok /spam off

Doubt that could be won anyway. It's really a shame though because the Assassin's Creed story is just epic so far -- I've played computer games for 20+ years and this is probably one of the top 2 or 3 franchises I've ever played; it's just too bad the story couldn't have been come up with by a company that treats its customers as if their business is appreciated. Instead it's nothing but preferential treatment to certain blocks of the customer base and a backhand to the face followed by the middle finger to others.

Razrback16
11-17-2010, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
we have, as Forum Managers, reported PC owners frustrations..

And just so you know, we (or at least *I*) appreciate that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I hope you will continue to convey it.

AubreyWilborn
11-17-2010, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
we have, as Forum Managers, reported PC owners frustrations..

And just so you know, we (or at least *I*) appreciate that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I hope you will continue to convey it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yep. We all appreciate you standing up on our behalf like that.

And, of course, to re-iterate what others have said: the purely EPIC game franchise that is the AC series is done an EPIC disservice when it comes to PC gaming.

taintedflesh221
11-17-2010, 11:56 AM
I right there with you razorback 16, i to have played for years on PC. With an archive of 400 + pc titles, a mix of riped and baught games there are few games that stick out. Funny how the older games are the ones.Well back then with a small new experimental market they had to use creativity. From Age of empires comntroling a civilization. To Diablo etc, the market blew up and when everquest had came out, it was the foundation mainly or 3d mmo games. Over the years we learned howto crack, and companies learned how to repeat titles. Most strategy RTS games i can walk up and go oh what ""TECH"" level you at? Its the same game, just new face. But AC deliivered such a fresh change that was very very polished, but i think the delay is mainly due to the fact that it mostly be barely any profit. Most cracking is done on pc, its layed out, on the same machin, and comes with tutorials. So many infact that the profit is cut by 20-40%, after you take out production and personnel, advertisment, development, and set the maintenance crew up, ur lookin at a 10-20% profit. Now comes the cash, but its ALLL different, american dollars, euros and when converted they get i think roughly 13% depending where it sells best. So its no longer a priority to change the controls of the game, de bug it, and find a way to get decent security, when the market gives a 50% revenue on console. Typical companies, its all about green.

Razrback16
11-17-2010, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by taintedflesh221:
I right there with you razorback 16, i to have played for years on PC. With an archive of 400 + pc titles, a mix of riped and baught games there are few games that stick out. Funny how the older games are the ones.Well back then with a small new experimental market they had to use creativity. From Age of empires comntroling a civilization. To Diablo etc, the market blew up and when everquest had came out, it was the foundation mainly or 3d mmo games. Over the years we learned howto crack, and companies learned how to repeat titles. Most strategy RTS games i can walk up and go oh what ""TECH"" level you at? Its the same game, just new face. But AC deliivered such a fresh change that was very very polished, but i think the delay is mainly due to the fact that it mostly be barely any profit. Most cracking is done on pc, its layed out, on the same machin, and comes with tutorials. So many infact that the profit is cut by 20-40%, after you take out production and personnel, advertisment, development, and set the maintenance crew up, ur lookin at a 10-20% profit. Now comes the cash, but its ALLL different, american dollars, euros and when converted they get i think roughly 13% depending where it sells best. So its no longer a priority to change the controls of the game, de bug it, and find a way to get decent security, when the market gives a 50% revenue on console. Typical companies, its all about green.

Nice to hear from a bigtime pc game junkie. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Like you said, it's really sad that the desire to build a game that plays on the superior hardware and drives innovation doesn't exist in this case. We'll have to wait for Crysis 2 for that.

Razrback16
11-18-2010, 09:37 AM
Mr Shade -- would you mind asking Ubisoft directly if they could give us the real reason the game is being delayed?

Thank you in advance.

Marco_red
11-18-2010, 01:58 PM
i bought ac 1 and was hooked the as soon as you could pre order ac2 i did now I orderd ACB codex edition as soon as posible and have been waiting for the 19 of november then i read that ONLY PC has been delayed. I am going to lose my ####ing mind http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif.

why is it just pc that is delayed?

for the next ac game hope it comes out at the same date.

Zamunda.net
11-18-2010, 03:49 PM
I dont know how to express my self without cursing... I just want to say that im really dissapointed of Ubisoft once again. Why are you treating PC gamers like we are lower class than the console users? (i would apretieate if a ubi employe answers this question). You have such a huge team developing AC games, u just cant say that the PC version isnt finished... and u cant possibly think that your DRM is going to stop piracy.
For me personaly getting the game in november was the ideal time, with the holidays comming i was going to spend alot of time playing, but instead u push the release back 3-4 months. Good thing i got black ops. I just want to know why!

Nydirech
11-18-2010, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

Here is What ticks me off about this " we are doing it to prevent Pirating" Crap. You can Mod a Xbox AND a PS3 to burn a copy of the game to your consoles HD. So people , and I know some personally, rent the desired game from Blockbuster bring it home and burn it to the HD. Now they return the game to BB and they just got a game for 3 BUCKS!!! BUT I pay 50 for the thing and if I upgrade my computer more then X times I have to buy A NEW COPY cuz it thinks i have installed it on multiple machines. WTH are PC gamers, THE ORIGINAL GAMERS, being the target of this injustice? Simple Console companies PAY for the company to push their console first and postpone the PC release. Dont believe me look at alot of releases they go to Xbox a week or 2 before PS3 or PS3 a week or 2 early and PC is almost always last in line. They can say the coding wasnt done or what ever the thing is YOU WRITE THE GAMES ON A COMPUTER! YOU TEST THEM ON A COMPUTER! We are not stupid your just trying to make a buck. In best case scenario we get bonus content but lately even that isnt being supplied. Get off the console horse and start pushing games out FOR ALL on time.

AubreyWilborn
11-18-2010, 06:47 PM
This thread is correct on all counts. I wish I could just bump this thread just to bump it.

Hopefully, someday game developers will start listening to the PC crowd again.

bushinosaya
11-18-2010, 09:23 PM
Considering game companies ( including Ubisoft ) make a better profit on a digital copy for the PC than on a retail version for consoles, you would think this is a market Ubi would like to expand. Especially now their "amazing DRM" got rid of piracy, one would not see why they would delay the PC version.

Well, dear Ubisoft, I will give you the best reason why you should make great PC games. Not because you care about PC gamers ( it would be hard to pretend you do considering the terrible draw distance in AC2 ). BUT, in a couple years, when you will need to release some HD versions of your older games to sell at some expensive price ( for a game most gamers certainly have bought at least twice ) on next next next gen consoles, you will NEED the slightly enhance PC version to do that.

Yep, Prince of Persia HD on PS3 would not exist if Ubi had to use the crappy PS2 versions of the games. Nobody would pay that much for that on a next gen console. Thanks to the beautiful models, textures,... of the old PC version, you are about to make some quick cash. So, from now on, start being smart and invest on the PC versions. You'll sell more of them now but most importantly, you'll be able to sell them to us again in a couple years !

How can Ubi be surprised by low sales on the PC when gamers have to wait so much time to get their hands on the game. AC:B will have been spoiled to them far before next year. What is the purpose of that insane DRM if PC gamers don't even get to own the game at the same time than others ?

It's a shame there isn't any counterpower to game companies in this economy. Expecially when these companies are so inspired by Kotick...

Vey03
11-19-2010, 06:28 AM
Well i'm a PC also, and i don't have words to describe what i'm feeling.
Stuff like 'angry' and 'disappointed' doesn't even come close. I'm bloody furious.

I have no idea why Ubi must do this. And i have no idea why, if they must delay the PC version, they don't delay all versions. Why must only PC players suffer?
Feb? Well that's another 3 months. Some say March, that's 4 months. It's AC2 all over again. And same thing will happen with AC3, you watch.
And it's rediculous. Somehow other companies seem to be able to launch their games on all the platforms they said they would make it for on the same day.
Yet Ubi seems to be having ongoing problems. Why? And it's b.s that they keep telling us it's safety and DRM and...oh they can shove their lies.

But i'll tell you guys something really interesting.
I'm in Australia. And apparantly it's out here already. Was out Nov 18th. I saw it in a catalogue and today i saw it on IGN's Australian site.
I don't know yet. I'm planning on calling the shop who's catalogue it was tomorrow, and asking them if what i saw was correct and could they confirm 100% that it is indeed ACB on PC, full version.
So i'll get back to you guys with that info.

None the less, i'll still be waiting until after Christmas sales to get it at discount. And if it is wrong, and it is delayed till Feb or whenever, i will also be waiting until it is cheaper, on sale.

Hey, by the time it does come out for PC, no one's going to be playing online anyway, so what's another few months?
Besides, i'm not giving Ubi $90 for something that i get 4 months later. Gotta be kidding.

Razrback16
11-19-2010, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Mouse03:
Well i'm a PC also, and i don't have words to describe what i'm feeling.
Stuff like 'angry' and 'disappointed' doesn't even come close. I'm bloody furious.

I have no idea why Ubi must do this. And i have no idea why, if they must delay the PC version, they don't delay all versions. Why must only PC players suffer?
Feb? Well that's another 3 months. Some say March, that's 4 months. It's AC2 all over again. And same thing will happen with AC3, you watch.
And it's rediculous. Somehow other companies seem to be able to launch their games on all the platforms they said they would make it for on the same day.
Yet Ubi seems to be having ongoing problems. Why? And it's b.s that they keep telling us it's safety and DRM and...oh they can shove their lies.

But i'll tell you guys something really interesting.
I'm in Australia. And apparantly it's out here already. Was out Nov 18th. I saw it in a catalogue and today i saw it on IGN's Australian site.
I don't know yet. I'm planning on calling the shop who's catalogue it was tomorrow, and asking them if what i saw was correct and could they confirm 100% that it is indeed ACB on PC, full version.
So i'll get back to you guys with that info.

None the less, i'll still be waiting until after Christmas sales to get it at discount. And if it is wrong, and it is delayed till Feb or whenever, i will also be waiting until it is cheaper, on sale.

Hey, by the time it does come out for PC, no one's going to be playing online anyway, so what's another few months?
Besides, i'm not giving Ubi $90 for something that i get 4 months later. Gotta be kidding.

Well I'm definitely with you on waiting to get it discounted. They don't deserve retail for treating the PC customer base in this manner. When you factor in the DRM, PC owners not getting the DLC missions, and the fact that we get a big middle finger in having to wait an additional 3-4 months just to have the opportunity to purchase the game, the fact that I'm going to give them $20 for it is probably more than I should in all honesty.

AubreyWilborn
11-19-2010, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mouse03:
Well i'm a PC also, and i don't have words to describe what i'm feeling.
Stuff like 'angry' and 'disappointed' doesn't even come close. I'm bloody furious.

I have no idea why Ubi must do this. And i have no idea why, if they must delay the PC version, they don't delay all versions. Why must only PC players suffer?
Feb? Well that's another 3 months. Some say March, that's 4 months. It's AC2 all over again. And same thing will happen with AC3, you watch.
And it's rediculous. Somehow other companies seem to be able to launch their games on all the platforms they said they would make it for on the same day.
Yet Ubi seems to be having ongoing problems. Why? And it's b.s that they keep telling us it's safety and DRM and...oh they can shove their lies.

But i'll tell you guys something really interesting.
I'm in Australia. And apparantly it's out here already. Was out Nov 18th. I saw it in a catalogue and today i saw it on IGN's Australian site.
I don't know yet. I'm planning on calling the shop who's catalogue it was tomorrow, and asking them if what i saw was correct and could they confirm 100% that it is indeed ACB on PC, full version.
So i'll get back to you guys with that info.

None the less, i'll still be waiting until after Christmas sales to get it at discount. And if it is wrong, and it is delayed till Feb or whenever, i will also be waiting until it is cheaper, on sale.

Hey, by the time it does come out for PC, no one's going to be playing online anyway, so what's another few months?
Besides, i'm not giving Ubi $90 for something that i get 4 months later. Gotta be kidding.

Well I'm definitely with you on waiting to get it discounted. They don't deserve retail for treating the PC customer base in this manner. When you factor in the DRM, PC owners not getting the DLC missions, and the fact that we get a big middle finger in having to wait an additional 3-4 months just to have the opportunity to purchase the game, the fact that I'm going to give them $20 for it is probably more than I should in all honesty. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Hold on a second-PC gamers are NOT getting the DLC?! If that's true, there's no way I'm getting the game. At all. I also don't think I'll be getting AC3 either, if that's ever released for the PC. This is b.s.- Razr, are you SURE that we aren't getting any DLC?!

Lol, I was such a big fan of this AC franchise. Leave it to Ubisoft to ruin a phenomenal gaming series with bad business/marketing decisions, favoritism, and lack of respect for PC customers.

Windrius
11-19-2010, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
Well I'm definitely with you on waiting to get it discounted. They don't deserve retail for treating the PC customer base in this manner. When you factor in the DRM, PC owners not getting the DLC missions, and the fact that we get a big middle finger in having to wait an additional 3-4 months just to have the opportunity to purchase the game, the fact that I'm going to give them $20 for it is probably more than I should in all honesty.

Where the did you get the idea that PC isn't getting the DLC missions?

Razrback16
11-19-2010, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
Hold on a second-PC gamers are NOT getting the DLC?! If that's true, there's no way I'm getting the game. At all. I also don't think I'll be getting AC3 either, if that's ever released for the PC. This is b.s.- Razr, are you SURE that we aren't getting any DLC?!

Lol, I was such a big fan of this AC franchise. Leave it to Ubisoft to ruin a phenomenal gaming series with bad business/marketing decisions, favoritism, and lack of respect for PC customers.

That's what Mr. Shade has said and Black Widow as well. Currently Ubisoft is releasing the DLC extra mission(s) for PS3 only at this time.

Razrback16
11-19-2010, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Razrback16:
Well I'm definitely with you on waiting to get it discounted. They don't deserve retail for treating the PC customer base in this manner. When you factor in the DRM, PC owners not getting the DLC missions, and the fact that we get a big middle finger in having to wait an additional 3-4 months just to have the opportunity to purchase the game, the fact that I'm going to give them $20 for it is probably more than I should in all honesty.

Where the did you get the idea that PC isn't getting the DLC missions? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From the Forum Managers, Mr Shade & Black Widow.

Deej4y17
11-19-2010, 01:25 PM
DLC

guys wat is DLC > can anyone tell me ?

Razrback16
11-19-2010, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Deej4y17:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">DLC

guys wat is DLC > can anyone tell me ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DownLoadable Content

Deej4y17
11-19-2010, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Deej4y17:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">DLC

guys wat is DLC > can anyone tell me ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DownLoadable Content </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ahh . thank you bro http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Razrback16
11-19-2010, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Deej4y17:
ahh . thank you bro http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You bet! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Vey03
11-20-2010, 01:37 AM
Well, i just wanted to clarify what i said about the release dates in Australia.
Having rung the store the catalogue was from, they did confirm that it is infact not out yet, and said as far as they know, it's Feb 2011.
Their site says Dec 2010, but they did say Feb.

So yeah. I still probably won't buy it till end of financial year sales (June) as i'll have another game i will get that comes out on all platforms at the same time, which comes out same time as ACB PC will, so i'd rather give my money to a company who takes care of all it's clients.
And yes, i'm happy to wait till June.

LCGuardian
11-20-2010, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
Well I'm definitely with you on waiting to get it discounted. They don't deserve retail for treating the PC customer base in this manner. When you factor in the DRM, PC owners not getting the DLC missions, and the fact that we get a big middle finger in having to wait an additional 3-4 months just to have the opportunity to purchase the game, the fact that I'm going to give them $20 for it is probably more than I should in all honesty.

Hang on, just so that we don't all get in a frenzy. I think you need to distinguish between two forms of DLC for ACB: the Copernicus exclusive DLC that was available for the PS3 at release and which the forum managers have said is exclusive to PS3 (so both PC and Xbox are apparently going to miss out unless its a timed exclusive) and the later, currently unnamed and undetailed DLC that is planned for sometime in the future. As far as I know this later DLC has had no details released at all, but a good guide for its availability on PC is that the PC version of AC2 included the missing memory segment DLC straight out of the box. Maybe Shade will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the paid DLC will be on all platforms in some format (paid or included).


Originally posted by Mouse03:
Well, i just wanted to clarify what i said about the release dates in Australia.
Having rung the store the catalogue was from, they did confirm that it is infact not out yet, and said as far as they know, it's Feb 2011.
Their site says Dec 2010, but they did say Feb.

So yeah. I still probably won't buy it till end of financial year sales (June) as i'll have another game i will get that comes out on all platforms at the same time, which comes out same time as ACB PC will, so i'd rather give my money to a company who takes care of all it's clients.
And yes, i'm happy to wait till June.

February is only speculation at this point. Given that the only official time period for release at this point is Q1 2011, and given AC1 and AC2 came out in April 2008 and March 2010 respectively, I wouldn't get hopes up for anything before a March 2011 release for ACB PC.

LtKirby
11-20-2010, 03:43 AM
I only just found out about the delay less then a week ago so I'm still pretty damn mad.

I know a lot of the console players are saying stuff like "Big deal. Just wait. There's nothing you can do about it so why moan?" and to those people are say jog on. Ubisoft have to be made aware about the fact that even though they develope some epic games they have the business talent of a monkey in a suit.
Personally I will not be getting AC:BH now on PC nor will I purchase it for xbox360. I don't know about the majority of people around the world, but certainly out of all the people I know there is a pretty even split between PC, PS3 and Xbox360 players. As such all of my friends (including myself, and I would imagine a lot of people accross the world) are simply going over to their friends house who has a PS3 and Xbox360 and playing it on there. Understandably all of us who are now playing it on our friends consoles instead of PCs will not be buying the pc version when it is eventually released so all Ubisoft are doing is losing sales.

I doubt Ubisoft have delayed it till Q1 2011 due to DRM issues and worries about piracy simply due to the fact if they were going to delay it for those reasons they wouldn't have delayed it for so long that they missed the xmas sales. Its obviously simply down to the fact that the team developing the PC would have had less people working on it as PC sales are generally fewer then that of consoles. Ubisoft obviously have the attitude that as long as they get one or two versions of the game out the other platform can go f*ck itself because they've done a 'kinda good job'. Heres some news for you Ubisoft: YOU SUCK!

Personaly I'm fed up with game developers practically ****ing on the heads of PC players. The gaming industry was made popular thanks to 2 things. Game arcades and PCs!!!!! PC Gamers practically helped invent the gaming industry but all that seems to happen lately is we get ****ed over either through massive delays or buggy games!!!
Perfect example is the latest Call of Duty: Black Ops. Developed by the tragedy that is known as Treyarch (the guys responsible for World at War) the game was destined to be messed up straight from the start...but nobody could imagine the magnitude of just how badly.
As a result PS3 and Xbox360 have had a few bugs...which is understandable.
PC users on the other hand have been given a game which is literally unplayable. My 21st birthday was actually on 9th November (i.e. its release date) so I'd planned everything out. I had a day of uni anyway so I'd worked hard and got all my work done so I could just play COD til the evening before I went out and got battered. Installed it and surprise surprise the fps is so slow the game jitters like a girl having an epileptic fit.
Have a look at all the PC issues that have been reported (http://www.callofduty.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=313644&sid=uci3rrfpbihds78t9k75cchfg7). Treyarch released a thread the day after saying what they were working on but we haven't heard anything since 11th November and the game is still pretty unplayable for the majority of players.

Coming back to AC:BH though I just wish developers could work harder on PC versions. For the last few years they seem to be slacking more and more. I don't know whether it's because they're understaffed or simply due to lazyness but something needs to be done so that PC versions of games get released on time and beta tested. If beta testing means a slight delay then fair enough but I emphasise the word SLIGHT. Making us wait months is a joke. 4 or 5 weeks would be understandable but the way developers do business now with the PC guys is a joke.

Donald292
11-20-2010, 04:12 AM
I would like to say that this is out of order making pc gamers wait an extra 3-4 months for a game. I ordered my copy with the belief that it would be relesed yeseterday I have now cancled my order and will no longer buy or use any ubisoft games.

blubbolo
11-20-2010, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by Mouse03:
as i'll have another game i will get that comes out on all platforms at the same time, which comes out same time as ACB PC will, so i'd rather give my money to a company who takes care of all it's clients.
same.
thx god ea isn't as ******ed as ubisoft.

and tbh for me this delay is their way to tell us to go buy their game for xbox/ps3 or just suck it (also about piracy: for xbox it was out a week before release ;DD).

Razrback16
11-20-2010, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:
Hang on, just so that we don't all get in a frenzy. I think you need to distinguish between two forms of DLC for ACB: the Copernicus exclusive DLC that was available for the PS3 at release and which the forum managers have said is exclusive to PS3 (so both PC and Xbox are apparently going to miss out unless its a timed exclusive) and the later, currently unnamed and undetailed DLC that is planned for sometime in the future. As far as I know this later DLC has had no details released at all, but a good guide for its availability on PC is that the PC version of AC2 included the missing memory segment DLC straight out of the box. Maybe Shade will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the paid DLC will be on all platforms in some format (paid or included).

I'm just going by what Mr Shade has some in a couple different threads about the DLC only being available for PS3 and that those are Ubi's current plans. He implies that it's not impossible that Ubi could change their plans and later release it, but for RIGHT NOW, it's planned to be PS3 only. Now, in those instances, I don't remember if he was specifying the Copernicus mission or all, so that's up for debate until clarified.

Razrback16
11-20-2010, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Donald292:
I would like to say that this is out of order making pc gamers wait an extra 3-4 months for a game. I ordered my copy with the belief that it would be relesed yeseterday I have now cancled my order and will no longer buy or use any ubisoft games.

I don't blame you in the slightest bit.

Razrback16
11-20-2010, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by blubbolo:
(also about piracy: for xbox it was out a week before release ;DD).

I know, I lol'd when I read that headline.

Zamunda.net
11-20-2010, 02:41 PM
FFS Ubi give us a [edit] answer! Why did u delay it?

LCGuardian
11-20-2010, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LCGuardian:
Hang on, just so that we don't all get in a frenzy. I think you need to distinguish between two forms of DLC for ACB: the Copernicus exclusive DLC that was available for the PS3 at release and which the forum managers have said is exclusive to PS3 (so both PC and Xbox are apparently going to miss out unless its a timed exclusive) and the later, currently unnamed and undetailed DLC that is planned for sometime in the future. As far as I know this later DLC has had no details released at all, but a good guide for its availability on PC is that the PC version of AC2 included the missing memory segment DLC straight out of the box. Maybe Shade will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the paid DLC will be on all platforms in some format (paid or included).

I'm just going by what Mr Shade has some in a couple different threads about the DLC only being available for PS3 and that those are Ubi's current plans. He implies that it's not impossible that Ubi could change their plans and later release it, but for RIGHT NOW, it's planned to be PS3 only. Now, in those instances, I don't remember if he was specifying the Copernicus mission or all, so that's up for debate until clarified. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The only reference I could find from Shade was in relation to this article (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104951-AC-Brotherhoods-PS3-Exclusive-DLC-Revolves-Around-Copernicus), which deals with the Copernicus DLC only. And Shade's comments in the thread (hate citing a locked thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/3311053098/p/5), but here goes):


The fact that the PS3 may have a few extra missions, which may not even add anything to the main story line, shouldn't really put anyone off buying the game - but I can see some people are very sensitive about it.

Same as 'Exclusive' multiplayer skins - content may be different on different formats - Avatar for example also had an exclusive PS3 map [from certain stores]

This suggests to me that he was only referring to the Copernicus DLC, and that PS3 exclusivity only applies to this DLC. I'll admit, it isn't entirely clear, but I simply think there has been too little released about any potential paid DLC in the future to even suggest that these comments are referring to the paid DLC.

Of course, the simplest way to resolve this would be for Shade or Black Widow to simply say in this thread what they actually meant (hint, hint).

In terms of the Copernicus exclusivity, I think a reasonable parallel is the continued Xbox and PC exclusivity of Splinter Cell Conviction. It does seem that in that case at least Ubisoft were prepared to agree a permanent exclusivity agreement with Microsoft, rather than a timed exclusive. Who knows whether the Copernicus agreement with Sony is timed exclusive or not, but SCC shows that Ubi is prepared to go with permanent exclusives.

Pheenox
11-20-2010, 04:35 PM
Hi, i've been following this thread since i have one thing in common with you guys, im a PC player.

Now i have a simple queston Ubi has yet to answer, but perhaps you guys know the answer, as you are far more updated then me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I preordered AC:BH Limited Codex Edition for pc back in August, now i received a mail confirming my order, and a reception. But i heard some people talk about all pre-orders of the pc game has been "voided". Does this mean that my pre-order of the limited edition has been canceled?

I can still find my order on "www.findmyorder.com" However the release date is wrong, since it says november 18th. I would really like to know if im still getting my codex edition when they(ubi) decides to release the game... if not my mood will drop beyond disappointment.

Heres some of the stuff i find anoying by the way Ubi has handled this situation:
First off all, Ubi could at least have written a mail to all who pre-ordered a copy of the game, telling of the delay and explaining details. Second... They could put up info on their main assassins creed page about the delay. (i have only found the news on various internet sources, nothing from Ubi themselves) Third, they really should fix the dates on www.findmyorder.com (http://www.findmyorder.com) as it gives a wrong release date.

if any one can answer my questions i would be most grateful

- Pheenox

bignagger
11-20-2010, 04:54 PM
http://oi40.tinypic.com/24l4w9j.jpg

Sinysh
11-20-2010, 05:59 PM
Tak, fordi du har handlet på The Official Ubisoft. Følgende blev annulleret fra din ordre efter din egen, ordrebehandlerens og/eller producentens ønske.

Produktnavn Antal bestilt Reason for Cancellation
Assassin's 1 Ikke tilfreds


Im tired of ubisoft bull****ting PC users again and again because they need to DRM the crap out of the game, so ill be looking forward till february where i will find the game on TPB and then i can also play the game off line

-1 customer
have a nice day

LCGuardian
11-20-2010, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Pheenox:
Hi, i've been following this thread since i have one thing in common with you guys, im a PC player.

Now i have a simple queston Ubi has yet to answer, but perhaps you guys know the answer, as you are far more updated then me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I preordered AC:BH Limited Codex Edition for pc back in August, now i received a mail confirming my order, and a reception. But i heard some people talk about all pre-orders of the pc game has been "voided". Does this mean that my pre-order of the limited edition has been canceled?

I can still find my order on "www.findmyorder.com" However the release date is wrong, since it says november 18th. I would really like to know if im still getting my codex edition when they(ubi) decides to release the game... if not my mood will drop beyond disappointment.

Heres some of the stuff i find anoying by the way Ubi has handled this situation:
First off all, Ubi could at least have written a mail to all who pre-ordered a copy of the game, telling of the delay and explaining details. Second... They could put up info on their main assassins creed page about the delay. (i have only found the news on various internet sources, nothing from Ubi themselves) Third, they really should fix the dates on www.findmyorder.com (http://www.findmyorder.com) as it gives a wrong release date.

if any one can answer my questions i would be most grateful

- Pheenox

You probably need to email your retailer and see if the preorder is still valid. I know mine (a retail preorder at EB Games) will still be valid because of the AC2 experience last year, but some people ordering online seem to be having their orders rejected. Only your online retailer can tell you for sure though.

ARandomKid
11-20-2010, 09:06 PM
I enjoy the people who try and justify PC pirating by saying "Hey, we know we do illegal things but they do too so don't blame us!"

And, as far as numbers go with that, consoles win that game.

I used to think the whole "Oh wow those PC people pirate like EVERYTHING ugh" stance was largely exaggerated but I guess not. (http://www.tweakguides.com/Piracy_4.html)

Anyway, the only reasons I would be mad with the delay are the potential to be spoiled and of course the whole getting the game in 3 or 4 months thing.

AubreyWilborn
11-20-2010, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Pheenox:
Hi, i've been following this thread since i have one thing in common with you guys, im a PC player.

Now i have a simple queston Ubi has yet to answer, but perhaps you guys know the answer, as you are far more updated then me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I preordered AC:BH Limited Codex Edition for pc back in August, now i received a mail confirming my order, and a reception. But i heard some people talk about all pre-orders of the pc game has been "voided". Does this mean that my pre-order of the limited edition has been canceled?

I can still find my order on "www.findmyorder.com" However the release date is wrong, since it says november 18th. I would really like to know if im still getting my codex edition when they(ubi) decides to release the game... if not my mood will drop beyond disappointment.

Heres some of the stuff i find anoying by the way Ubi has handled this situation:
First off all, Ubi could at least have written a mail to all who pre-ordered a copy of the game, telling of the delay and explaining details. Second... They could put up info on their main assassins creed page about the delay. (i have only found the news on various internet sources, nothing from Ubi themselves) Third, they really should fix the dates on www.findmyorder.com (http://www.findmyorder.com) as it gives a wrong release date.

if any one can answer my questions i would be most grateful

- Pheenox

It depends where you pre-ordered the game from. However, I'll tentatively tell you not to hold your breath. You'll probably have to wait until Febuary.

I pre-ordered the PC version fro Best Buy in May. After the delay was announced, my pre-orded details STILL said I would be getting my copy on November 16th, for about a month. Then, my pre-order was voided completely, and...that's that.

Now, the only place in the states that you can still pre-order the PC version from is gamestop.

Pheenox
11-21-2010, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:
You probably need to email your retailer and see if the preorder is still valid. I know mine (a retail preorder at EB Games) will still be valid because of the AC2 experience last year, but some people ordering online seem to be having their orders rejected. Only your online retailer can tell you for sure though.

Okay, when i pre-ordered the codex edition it was only avaiable on one store: Ubishop.

My online info on www.findmyorder (http://www.findmyorder). says:

Bestillingsdato: 01-08-2010
Bestillingsstatus: Bestilling indsendt

Translated it means:

Time of order: 1st August 2010
Status of order: Order received/send to store

The date the page says its gonna be shipped is still shown wrong. Now i've tried to make Ubisoft answer the same question on the technical help and advice forum, but they have yet to reply...

LCGuardian
11-21-2010, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Pheenox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LCGuardian:
You probably need to email your retailer and see if the preorder is still valid. I know mine (a retail preorder at EB Games) will still be valid because of the AC2 experience last year, but some people ordering online seem to be having their orders rejected. Only your online retailer can tell you for sure though.

Okay, when i pre-ordered the codex edition it was only avaiable on one store: Ubishop.

My online info on www.findmyorder (http://www.findmyorder). says:

Bestillingsdato: 01-08-2010
Bestillingsstatus: Bestilling indsendt

Translated it means:

Time of order: 1st August 2010
Status of order: Order received/send to store

The date the page says its gonna be shipped is still shown wrong. Now i've tried to make Ubisoft answer the same question on the technical help and advice forum, but they have yet to reply... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you've preordered from Ubishop. Again, the only answer I can give, or anyone here (that would include the forum managers) is to email Ubisoft. Whether that means a dedicated email for Ubishop or the general technical support service I don't know - I've never bought from Ubishop. But be ready to be patient with the technical support - they can take forever to get back with a response (I know from bitter experience). I'd say if you haven't heard anything in a week, try emailing again.

The alternative would be to try to find a retail supplier of the Codex edition. I know you said you could only find it at Ubishop online. For the PC Black edition version of AC2, I preordered it in about July 2009 at EB Games in New Zealand, and the order was valid on release earlier this year. I've preordered a Codex edition of ACB with the same store in about July this year and kept my receipt, and I have no reason to think things will be any different when I pick it up in Q1 2011.

Pheenox
11-21-2010, 02:13 AM
Thx, for your info, its making me relax a little more, because i really want the codex edition http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now i've just send an mail to Ubishop asking the same question, perhaps it will help a little more, then asking on the forums help and support page. And i just send another mail.. so i've probably mailed everything i can now.

And to all the people who talk about pirate copy the game now because of a push in dates... I wouldn't say its the best way to show Ubisoft that they shouldnt worry about their games being pirate copied.. it makes more sense to actually show Ubisoft that they should not fear the pirates, and release the games on time (if this indeed is the reason for the delay).

Mr_Shade
11-21-2010, 06:43 AM
As stated many many times before - there has been no official statement about why the PC version has been delayed.



I can see that many of you have took on yourselves and are making assumptions behind the reason for the delay though, however rather than allow you to run with those guesses, I am correcting you.


Any chat about downloading or activity concerning illegal downloads WILL result in both the thread being locked and users suspended.

This thread is here to allow PC owners a place to voice their concerns, not chat about piracy and downloading this game, or any other.



Re: my comments about DLC - as pointed out they refer ONLY to the Exclusive PS3 DLC 'Copernicus Conspiracy' which is ONLY on the PS3 - and will remain exclusive.

Future DLC, will be multi format, but details of which have not been announced yet.

LCGuardian
11-21-2010, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
Re: my comments about DLC - as pointed out they refer ONLY to the Exclusive PS3 DLC 'Copernicus Conspiracy' which is ONLY on the PS3 - and will remain exclusive.

Future DLC, will be multi format, but details of which have not been announced yet.

And here's the man himself. Thanks for clearing that up, Shade.

Mr_Shade
11-21-2010, 11:40 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LCGuardian:

And here's t

AubreyWilborn
11-21-2010, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
As stated many many times before - there has been no official statement about why the PC version has been delayed.



I can see that many of you have took on yourselves and are making assumptions behind the reason for the delay though, however rather than allow you to run with those guesses, I am correcting you.


Any chat about downloading or activity concerning illegal downloads WILL result in both the thread being locked and users suspended.

This thread is here to allow PC owners a place to voice their concerns, not chat about piracy and downloading this game, or any other.



Re: my comments about DLC - as pointed out they refer ONLY to the Exclusive PS3 DLC 'Copernicus Conspiracy' which is ONLY on the PS3 - and will remain exclusive.

Future DLC, will be multi format, but details of which have not been announced yet.

The DLC ONLY being for the PS3-that's messed up. Someone tell me why ALL PLATFORMS can't have access to the same game content?


Anyway, PC gamers, be aware that Ubisoft's business practices( PC delays, DRM, console favoritism etc.) might be coming back to hurt the company.

Here is a direct quote from the website "www. destructoid.com"

"Ubisoft stock dropped 18 percent, their biggest day drop since early 2009. This comes after they report an 89.9 million Euro (about $122 million) loss for the first half of the business year, says Bloomberg."


Ubisoft-if you guys spent more time and money trying to cater to all your customers...y'all might be doing a little bit better in terms of sales. Just saying......

Razrback16
11-21-2010, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
The DLC ONLY being for the PS3-that's messed up. Someone tell me why ALL PLATFORMS can't have access to the same game content?


Anyway, PC gamers, be aware that Ubisoft's business practices( PC delays, DRM, console favoritism etc.) might be coming back to hurt the company.

Here is a direct quote from the website "www. destructoid.com"

"Ubisoft stock dropped 18 percent, their biggest day drop since early 2009. This comes after they report an 89.9 million Euro (about $122 million) loss for the first half of the business year, says Bloomberg."


Ubisoft-if you guys spent more time and money trying to cater to all your customers...y'all might be doing a little bit better in terms of sales. Just saying......

For sure. Glad Ubi's receiving a message. When you treat entire portions of your fan base like garbage, that's what happens.

Murcuseo
11-21-2010, 05:02 PM
The sad thing about this whole situation is if the figures are true and the main portion of their loses are related to PC sales there's every possibility they'll stop releasing main titles on PC altogether.

Then people will really have something to moan about....

I'd much rather miss out on some content and wait a few months than lose it from my chosen platform.

Razrback16
11-21-2010, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:
The sad thing about this whole situation is if the figures are true and the main portion of their loses are related to PC sales there's every possibility they'll stop releasing main titles on PC altogether.

Then people will really have something to moan about....

I'd much rather miss out on some content and wait a few months than lose it from my chosen platform.

And if that's the case, they'll have themselves to blame. Like I said -- when you treat a certain portion of your fan base like they're treating us, this is what happens. You lose your customers which means reduced sales. Maybe they should just do what competent companies do and take care of their customers...novel idea. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LCGuardian
11-21-2010, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:
The sad thing about this whole situation is if the figures are true and the main portion of their loses are related to PC sales there's every possibility they'll stop releasing main titles on PC altogether.

Then people will really have something to moan about....

I'd much rather miss out on some content and wait a few months than lose it from my chosen platform.

That's a chicken and egg argument though Robson. Are Ubisoft marginalising PC titles because they are unprofitable, or are PC titles unprofitable for Ubisoft because they are marginalising them?

And for that matter, I didn't see any indication in any of the figures that Ubisoft's losses are partly or largely attributable to PC gaming. I would say it is more likely that given the small volume of PC games shipped these days compared to console games for multiplatform titles that it is more a case of them not shipping enough console titles to cover fixed costs (like setting up the new Toronto studio) and the game development costs (I doubt AC2 would have been cheap, although ACB's reuse of AC2 assets probably lowered its cost to some degree).

Edit: Was browsing the net and saw this: Ubisoft Sees Sales Up, Digital Sales Boost, But High Costs Lead To Restructuring (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/31445/Ubisoft_Sees_Sales_Up_Digital_Sales_Boost_But_High _Costs_Lead_To_Restructuring.php). I guess the suggestion is that Ubisoft's lack of profitability is due to signficant R&D costs, rather than anything specifically contributed by the PC.

AubreyWilborn
11-22-2010, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Robson19822009:
The sad thing about this whole situation is if the figures are true and the main portion of their loses are related to PC sales there's every possibility they'll stop releasing main titles on PC altogether.

Then people will really have something to moan about....

I'd much rather miss out on some content and wait a few months than lose it from my chosen platform.

And if that's the case, they'll have themselves to blame. Like I said -- when you treat a certain portion of your fan base like they're treating us, this is what happens. You lose your customers which means reduced sales. Maybe they should just do what competent companies do and take care of their customers...novel idea. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You took the words right out of my mouth. I actually fear that what Robson said WILL happen, and pretty soon Ubisoft will stop releasing AC series games for the PC.

However, if or when that happens it will be Ubisoft's fault. The way they are treating PC gamers, they are practically tossing a loyal PC following out the window. They're _throwing_ PC sales to the dogs. And if they DO abandon the platform altogether, it will surely be their loss.


Erm...make that MORE of their loss.

LCGuardian
11-22-2010, 12:39 AM
Actually, I'm less concerned about Ubisoft stopping PC AC releases than I was before AC2's release, simply because of the development of their terrible DRM. That would have been a signficiant investment in both software development costs and the purchase and setup of servers, and more than that I suspect its become an issue of pride on the part of Ubisoft's execs to stem the perceived onslaught of PC piracy.

Razrback16
11-22-2010, 04:40 AM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
You took the words right out of my mouth. I actually fear that what Robson said WILL happen, and pretty soon Ubisoft will stop releasing AC series games for the PC.

However, if or when that happens it will be Ubisoft's fault. The way they are treating PC gamers, they are practically tossing a loyal PC following out the window. They're _throwing_ PC sales to the dogs. And if they DO abandon the platform altogether, it will surely be their loss.


Erm...make that MORE of their loss.

Well said. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Murcuseo
11-22-2010, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:

That's a chicken and egg argument though Robson. Are Ubisoft marginalising PC titles because they are unprofitable, or are PC titles unprofitable for Ubisoft because they are marginalising them?

And for that matter, I didn't see any indication in any of the figures that Ubisoft's losses are partly or largely attributable to PC gaming. I would say it is more likely that given the small volume of PC games shipped these days compared to console games for multiplatform titles that it is more a case of them not shipping enough console titles to cover fixed costs (like setting up the new Toronto studio) and the game development costs (I doubt AC2 would have been cheap, although ACB's reuse of AC2 assets probably lowered its cost to some degree).

Edit: Was browsing the net and saw this: Ubisoft Sees Sales Up, Digital Sales Boost, But High Costs Lead To Restructuring (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/31445/Ubisoft_Sees_Sales_Up_Digital_Sales_Boost_But_High _Costs_Lead_To_Restructuring.php). I guess the suggestion is that Ubisoft's lack of profitability is due to signficant R&D costs, rather than anything specifically contributed by the PC.

It's a complicated arguement when you don't have all the facts. Still, I just hope there is some kind of resolution rather than one side losing out. I'm always willing to make some compromises at my end aslong as Ubisoft keep making the AC games I love for PC. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I don't want to switch to consoles, whenever I read the specs on them I feel sad. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Razrback16
11-22-2010, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:
whenever I read the specs on them I feel sad. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

You and me both.

LCGuardian
11-22-2010, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:
It's a complicated arguement when you don't have all the facts. Still, I just hope there is some kind of resolution rather than one side losing out. I'm always willing to make some compromises at my end aslong as Ubisoft keep making the AC games I love for PC. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
(

Yeah, I guess I agree. If a delay is the expense PC gamers must pay to get the AC series, I'm (grudgingly) good with that. I think it helps that this is the second time around for me after AC2 - much easier to be patient for some reason.


Originally posted by Robson19822009:
I don't want to switch to consoles, whenever I read the specs on them I feel sad. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Isn't that the truth. Even though AC2 was a port, I liked the fact that it looked a lot better maxed out on my PC in comparison to the consoles. I liked it a lot.

Razrback16
11-22-2010, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:
If a delay is the expense PC gamers must pay to get the AC series, I'm (grudgingly) good with that. I think it helps that this is the second time around for me after AC2 - much easier to be patient for some reason.

Eh, just hit Ubi where it hurts -- their wallet. Refuse to buy the game for retail price and wait for it to drop a bit. I'll only give 'em $20 for the way they've treated me.

Jurkey
11-22-2010, 12:56 PM
I'm a PC gamer myself, and I was FREAKIN' MAD when I realized that the PC version was delayed like, 4 months?

How come you release a game, 4 months after it is developed? Sure you need to put up servers to run games on, tune the game for PC etc... But how can that take 4 months? That's almost like releasing a new expansion to a game.

I was [edit], and what [edit] me even more off is that we don't even have a "release date".

I love the Assassins Creed series, I have completed both games and I think AC 2 was the best game I've EVER played. But why does Ubi do this to us?

Mr_Shade
11-22-2010, 01:04 PM
Can I remind people that if you wish to use the forums to discuss this, or any other matter - people need to post in a civil and constructive way..


Civil meaning not to use swear words.

At present there is not a confirmed release date for the PC version, however as soon as there is one, it will be posted here and on the AC website.

Risoom
11-22-2010, 02:00 PM
So... What you're saying is that the game has been delayed?.. :O

Sinysh
11-22-2010, 02:07 PM
and they finally managed to update the ubishop so it doesn't say that its out on pc, lol

I wonder why they can't just use the same DRM so we could get it sooner

excuses excuses

Mr_Shade
11-22-2010, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by ChaosAnden:
So... What you're saying is that the game has been delayed?.. :O The game is due for release in quarter 1 2011

So sometime between January and March - however at present there is not a fixed date.

It is however still coming out in early 2011 - as stated previously.

LCGuardian
11-23-2010, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LCGuardian:
If a delay is the expense PC gamers must pay to get the AC series, I'm (grudgingly) good with that. I think it helps that this is the second time around for me after AC2 - much easier to be patient for some reason.

Eh, just hit Ubi where it hurts -- their wallet. Refuse to buy the game for retail price and wait for it to drop a bit. I'll only give 'em $20 for the way they've treated me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My concern with that would be that unless there is a retention of title scheme between Ubisoft's suppliers and retailers (meaning Ubisoft retain title to the games until the retailer sells them), the retailer probably purchased the game at cost and buying it at a reduced price would eat into their margin rather than affecting Ubisoft. And I like my nearest EB Games. If there is a chance that they would take the hit rather than Ubisoft then I'd rather pay full price at release.

mutanahr1996
12-23-2010, 05:47 AM
i can,t tell you man and all of my friends on upisoft.
my dvd games guy he have a shop and when a new game comes down i go and get it.
here is the story i finished ac.1 and ac.2 i just couldn,t wait for ac,3 to come down iam a pc guy myself so when i went to him i said-do you have ac.3 he said to me it,s coming down tomowrow it will be in your hands.. i went the other day i was thriled to get ac.3. i said to him give me my baby he said the assassin,s greed brotherhood has been delayded to long time. and i was like oh my god!! what are talking about man no way no ****ing way are you series man he said yeha. and since i heard that miserable untill now i hate upisoft for what has happend and just want to say it,s a shame to see thous 360. guys play this game and the pc guys sit around and watch them and if i want to give an advice i,de say relesae assassin,s gree brotherhood on pc that is it ?

Murcuseo
12-23-2010, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:

My concern with that would be that unless there is a retention of title scheme between Ubisoft's suppliers and retailers (meaning Ubisoft retain title to the games until the retailer sells them), the retailer probably purchased the game at cost and buying it at a reduced price would eat into their margin rather than affecting Ubisoft. And I like my nearest EB Games. If there is a chance that they would take the hit rather than Ubisoft then I'd rather pay full price at release.

The only way you could really have an effect Ubisofts purse strings is to not buy the game at all, which is something I'm not willing to consider. I love the series to much just to forget about it. AC is the only game I've enjoyed playing for the last 2 years. Which is sad.

I'm just praying for a clean port this time with all the appropriate PC related addons/optimisations. And a steady framerate obviously. Now that Gabe has confirmed the reason, he's basically put his reputation on the line. If they claim the delay is for optimising and don't manage to release the game fully optimised they'll certainly be losing a huge chunk of respect from me.

LCGuardian
12-23-2010, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:

The only way you could really have an effect Ubisofts purse strings is to not buy the game at all, which is something I'm not willing to consider. I love the series to much just to forget about it. AC is the only game I've enjoyed playing for the last 2 years. Which is sad.

I'm just praying for a clean port this time with all the appropriate PC related addons/optimisations. And a steady framerate obviously. Now that Gabe has confirmed the reason, he's basically put his reputation on the line. If they claim the delay is for optimising and don't manage to release the game fully optimised they'll certainly be losing a huge chunk of respect from me.

Agree entirely with everything you said, Robson. I wouldn't give up Assassin's Creed just to spite Ubisoft either. Its one of the best (and more unique) series currently on offer, and me refusing to buy a copy to spite Ubisoft for the delay is like a using a pin to hurt an elephant. It just won't work.

Actually, its interesting having been through this waiting experience with AC2, and having a lot more on now than this time last year, the wait is pretty manageable. Its really a case of out of sight, out of mind - if you dwell on the delay (like I did with AC2) the time grinds past pretty slowly. But if you do other (far more important) things and forget about ACB and the delay, the time flys by.

I agree with you as well that Gabe might have made a rod for Ubisoft's back by saying that ACB was delayed for optimisation. You've got to do a good job of the port if that's the rationale. That's not to that AC and AC2 were particularly bad ports - they did have a good selection of graphical options and looked good (considerably better than the console versions) at max settings. But realistically, given the optimisation rationale we should be looking at ACB carrying DirectX 10/11 support and proper optimisation for multicore CPUs. Unfortunately I think DirectX 10/11 is a lost hope after the downgrade to DirectX 9 from AC to AC2 (which is really appalling given the time they have to optimise ACB), but I think full use of quad cores upwards isn't unreasonable. Also, I guess a significant graphical edge over the console versions of ACB should also be a given at this point.

Of course, this optimisation might take a hit if significant dev team resources have had to be committed to patching the really buggy console versions of ACB. Hopefully we'll get the product of that patching process integrated into the PC version out of the box, but whether that also means less development time in terms of man hours for the PC version is not a good thought.

restomaniac
12-24-2010, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong! Which is a bit like saying:


The inside of the planet mercury is melted cheese..



No one can prove me wrong either.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


The PC version has been rescheduled to Q1 2011 - for whatever reason.. At present we don't have any official statement as to why it's delayed other than whats already been said..



We just have to ALL accept that, or decide to buy the console version..

I waited for AC2 on PC - then played it on Xbox anyway.. since my TV = bigger http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>If UBI are going to delay the PC version to make me purchase and play the console version first then they can buy me the console.
If not they should pull their fingers out and play fair by ALL gamers not just the ones they prefer!!!

restomaniac
12-24-2010, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by AnthonyA85:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay.

I agree with this. IF ubisoft really wanted to ensure the security of the pc version, they'd strike a deal with Steam, and have the PC version use Steam as it's DRM (like Creative Assembly did the the latest TW games)

They'll probably have to use steam for the multiplayer anyways, i mean, what else are they gonna use? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>And that makes the whole situation even more strange seeing as Steam is now owned by Blizzard.
I would imagine Blizzard would be happy to help if UBI are having problems making their MMO's secure against piracy if it means they get a Steam tie in.

restomaniac
12-24-2010, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by muzzyb:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by S1lent0ne:
I'm not going to get drawn into a philosophical debate of PC vs Console. They are at least equal in some respects so the issue becomes why the PC version is being delayed.

I think we all know that one of the more obvious culprits is DRM as this is the one major thing that sets the PC software apart.

Ubisoft, you have a documented case of a loss of sale directly related to this needless delay. I was going to go to the store and pay full price for it, but now I am angry, and I feel obligated to obtain the game free of cost.

We all know you've got no chance of getting the game free just because your unhappy with the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ill tell you what i am going to do though.
If they want to make me wait that is fine.
Im now gunna make them wait for my money until I can get it half price.
They were going to get my money at full price but seeing they have decided to screw me I only feel it fair to return the favour

restomaniac
12-24-2010, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
Yes in May it was expected to be released at the same time, however game releases do sometimes slip or get altered.

Unfortunately the PC version's release did in this case.

But this is the 3rd time this has happened.
I seriously hope which ever fool is responsible for this constant balls up has finaly been sacked!!

Murcuseo
12-24-2010, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by restomaniac:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
Yes in May it was expected to be released at the same time, however game releases do sometimes slip or get altered.

Unfortunately the PC version's release did in this case.

But this is the 3rd time this has happened.
I seriously hope which ever fool is responsible for this constant balls up has finaly been sacked!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's the first quadruple post I've ever seen I think, ridiculous. Could you please use the edit function from now on, instead of posting 4 separate times.


Originally posted by LCGuardian:

Agree entirely with everything you said, Robson. I wouldn't give up Assassin's Creed just to spite Ubisoft either. Its one of the best (and more unique) series currently on offer, and me refusing to buy a copy to spite Ubisoft for the delay is like a using a pin to hurt an elephant. It just won't work.

Actually, its interesting having been through this waiting experience with AC2, and having a lot more on now than this time last year, the wait is pretty manageable. Its really a case of out of sight, out of mind - if you dwell on the delay (like I did with AC2) the time grinds past pretty slowly. But if you do other (far more important) things and forget about ACB and the delay, the time flys by.

I agree with you as well that Gabe might have made a rod for Ubisoft's back by saying that ACB was delayed for optimisation. You've got to do a good job of the port if that's the rationale. That's not to that AC and AC2 were particularly bad ports - they did have a good selection of graphical options and looked good (considerably better than the console versions) at max settings. But realistically, given the optimisation rationale we should be looking at ACB carrying DirectX 10/11 support and proper optimisation for multicore CPUs. Unfortunately I think DirectX 10/11 is a lost hope after the downgrade to DirectX 9 from AC to AC2 (which is really appalling given the time they have to optimise ACB), but I think full use of quad cores upwards isn't unreasonable. Also, I guess a significant graphical edge over the console versions of ACB should also be a given at this point.

Of course, this optimisation might take a hit if significant dev team resources have had to be committed to patching the really buggy console versions of ACB. Hopefully we'll get the product of that patching process integrated into the PC version out of the box, but whether that also means less development time in terms of man hours for the PC version is not a good thought.

I don't really think ACII was that bad a port, but it certainly didn't seem like they made the most of the delay. The graphics options were great, but I think, as you said the lack of multicore and directX 10/11 support really didn't do the game justice.

The fact the weapons wheel and key bindings weren't optimised really hacked me off though. I much prefered to use the short blade and throwing knives, much like AC but they had no binding for it. With the amount of new variations in actions in AC:B they really need to let us take full control of our bindings.

Also, the lack of patching in the PC version lead me to believe they had to many other things on their plate to really concentrate on sorting the PC problems. Obviously that was due to AC:B development, hopefully this time they'll make sure to patch as many 'issues' as they can before moving on.

Marco_red
12-27-2010, 08:34 AM
ok it is delay and there is nothing we can do about it, but does the pc version get something extra and exclusive for waiting this long?

Like the ability to remove ezio's armor or have the spear and your main weapon or the mathing vambraces in the trailer.

Razrback16
12-27-2010, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:
I don't really think ACII was that bad a port, but it certainly didn't seem like they made the most of the delay. The graphics options were great, but I think, as you said the lack of multicore and directX 10/11 support really didn't do the game justice.

The fact the weapons wheel and key bindings weren't optimised really hacked me off though. I much prefered to use the short blade and throwing knives, much like AC but they had no binding for it. With the amount of new variations in actions in AC:B they really need to let us take full control of our bindings.

Also, the lack of patching in the PC version lead me to believe they had to many other things on their plate to really concentrate on sorting the PC problems. Obviously that was due to AC:B development, hopefully this time they'll make sure to patch as many 'issues' as they can before moving on.

Agree on all counts.

LCGuardian
12-27-2010, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Robson19822009:
I don't really think ACII was that bad a port, but it certainly didn't seem like they made the most of the delay. The graphics options were great, but I think, as you said the lack of multicore and directX 10/11 support really didn't do the game justice.

The fact the weapons wheel and key bindings weren't optimised really hacked me off though. I much prefered to use the short blade and throwing knives, much like AC but they had no binding for it. With the amount of new variations in actions in AC:B they really need to let us take full control of our bindings.

Yeah, the key bindings scream lazy port. When the keyboard on a PC gives provision for up to ten different options along the number keys, the different weapons on the weapons wheel should have been independently coded to each key. It wouldn't have been a big task, and the weapons wheel could have been left as an option to bind as a key for PC gamers who prefer to use a controller.


Originally posted by Robson19822009:
Also, the lack of patching in the PC version lead me to believe they had to many other things on their plate to really concentrate on sorting the PC problems. Obviously that was due to AC:B development, hopefully this time they'll make sure to patch as many 'issues' as they can before moving on.

Given Ubisoft has already indicated an intention to release another big AC title in 2011, I'm not holding out a lot of hope for good post-release support. The signficant range of bugs for the consoles that haven't been corrected yet aren't making me any more confident either.

AnolBoruah
12-28-2010, 09:46 AM
Well I'm a PC user too & was eagerly waiting for AC:B, please Ubisoft give us some clean details http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

AnolBoruah
12-28-2010, 09:48 AM
Just found out......Ubisoft gave a christmas gift to PS3 gamers....they announced "Splinter Cell Trilogy" for PS3........and still no gift for PC gamers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Cederholm
12-28-2010, 10:16 AM
I hope they release brotherhood in the beginning of feb. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Razrback16
12-28-2010, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by AnolBoruah:
Just found out......Ubisoft gave a christmas gift to PS3 gamers....they announced "Splinter Cell Trilogy" for PS3........and still no gift for PC gamers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

No surprise there. Ubisoft has made it abundantly clear to all that they vastly favor the console users over PC users (specifically the PS3).

xedutor
01-04-2011, 09:29 AM
Ubisoft, please put the game in the market *-*

ThaWhistle
01-04-2011, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AnolBoruah:
Just found out......Ubisoft gave a christmas gift to PS3 gamers....they announced "Splinter Cell Trilogy" for PS3........and still no gift for PC gamers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

No surprise there. Ubisoft has made it abundantly clear to all that they vastly favor the console users over PC users (specifically the PS3). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

anyone remember Ghost Recon 2?

"Whens it coming out for PC?"
"Don't Worry, it'll come out when its done! WE are trying to polish it for PC!"
"Fine..."
"Oh hey, we cancelled it for PC, lololol bai."
"Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"


Ubisoft isn't really a brand I trust anymore after that... I dont think theyll end up not releasing a PC version of this, but if they did skip us, I wouldn't be completely shocked. the lack of a release date is troubling, I dont care if they said it was the very last day of march, that'd still be better than no release date.

Quak0r01
01-04-2011, 03:13 PM
More like Duke Nukem: Brotherhood....Forever
or
More like Assassin's Creed: Episode 3

No, seriously it will be released when it's down. So I would recommend calming the **** down, grabbing a cup of awesome tea and playing something else until then.

ThaWhistle
01-04-2011, 03:17 PM
there is nothing else... they've gone, they've all gone...

LCGuardian
01-05-2011, 12:57 AM
I don't think there's any reason to worry about Ubisoft not releasing ACB for PC ... yet. From memory the release date for AC2 was made public in late January/early February last year, and it worked out fine.

But I would say that the speculative mid-February release dates for ACB are probably gone now that we're into January 2011 and nothing has been made public. I'm still picking an early March 2011 release date at this point.

liorchk
01-05-2011, 12:15 PM
ubisoft are just ignoring us ...

they dont care a [edit] about pc gamers
damn it. i guess they got money from microsoft to force the pc gamers to buy a console since they cant think of another way...
i'm so [edit] and trying to hold my anger as I can but I cant hold it....
I see gameplays from acb and i'm so furious in ubisfot that i need to see the gameplays and not PLAYING them
guys ubisoft maybe makes good games but their support is almost zero!
I hope someday ubisoft will understand that and start giving us explains

AND guys i bet no ACB devolopers are entering this forums
p.s its not a theart but my freinds is preparng bots to spam the forums with the same question when the game will be realsed to pc just tellin...

Mr_Shade
01-05-2011, 12:25 PM
Just so people are aware...


The PC version of the game is still on track for a Q1 release, however at present I don't have an official date set.

The games developers do read the forums, as do other members of the company, and they are aware that PC gamers want the title...

I will check to see if there is a fixed date yet - but please remember that any date seen on a retail site may just be a guess, so please remember that.

ThaWhistle
01-05-2011, 12:27 PM
huzzah.

LCGuardian
01-05-2011, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
Just so people are aware...


The PC version of the game is still on track for a Q1 release, however at present I don't have an official date set.

The games developers do read the forums, as do other members of the company, and they are aware that PC gamers want the title...

I will check to see if there is a fixed date yet - but please remember that any date seen on a retail site may just be a guess, so please remember that.

Gotta say, kudos to you, Shade, for keeping in touch with the PC gamers during this wait. I remember the bad old days at the start of last year when we couldn't get a single comment out of Ubisoft. There's something reassuring about an Ubisoft employee communicating to PC gamers on the forums, even if he doesn't know anything more than we do.

And good luck getting a fixed PC release date. I'd be very surprised, and very pleased, if anything came of asking the question. But I, and I think I speak for the more rational PC gamers, appreciate the effort.

matadoor2010
01-06-2011, 12:48 AM
Well i just hope they actually make it in Q1 2011 .... i mean who knows if they gonna delay it more ? it's ubisoft :P ... the company that goes against pc gamers ...i wanna play AC:brotherhood soon , as of watching all the console players playing it and doin all stuff ... and the orignals pc gamers are just sitting waiting ... this is "FAIR" -.-" I AM A PC USER AND WONT CHANGE TO A CONSOLE USER !

superchimp1983
01-06-2011, 04:04 AM
Well I'm a pc gamer and I'm doin my support of ubi, I brought the brotherhood book for less then £4 and reading the desmod plot on this forum, why wait or buy a expensive rip off console version, did the same for ac2, the only thing that draws me to this game is gameplay of being a good single player game but now theres multiplayer tacked on and single player games suffer cause of this trend. So not sure whether to get it, just hope ubi's delay is actually worth it.

illara00
01-06-2011, 05:41 AM
Yeah I a PC too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif and I'm too pretty frusrated about this. I even made a complaint to Ubisoft about it. Here in Finland the Codex Editions releasing date is November 24. When I preordered it for 50€ the date was November 14... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Razrback16
01-06-2011, 05:53 AM
Thanks for the update Shade.

I've had the opportunity to at least play Brotherhood on the XBOX 360 while waiting for the PC version and I can say without a doubt how incredibly inferior the consoles are compared to the PC. Bad graphics, bad frames per second, bad loading speed. Can't wait for the PC version.

Windrius
01-06-2011, 07:47 AM
Well, as most of you, I am also mad at ubisoft for the delay.
BUT, I just hope during these extra months ubisoft really does fix the bugs that are seen in the console version (360 atleast) which, after playing for 30 minutes, didn't impress me as much as I wanted it to. Not that the game play wasn't awesome, but if you just stand and look around you can see some bugged NPCs, some wrong animation, alot of things tbh.
I just hope it's not like last year(with ACII). Really, delayed for a half year, yet it still had bugs and was downgraded from directX10 which was in AC to directX9. That day, it was sure that it was delayed for piracy. I just hope this year we will really see a quality product.

Seekzor
01-06-2011, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by Windrius:
Well, as most of you, I am also mad at ubisoft for the delay.
BUT, I just hope during these extra months ubisoft really does fix the bugs that are seen in the console version (360 atleast) which, after playing for 30 minutes, didn't impress me as much as I wanted it to. Not that the game play wasn't awesome, but if you just stand and look around you can see some bugged NPCs, some wrong animation, alot of things tbh.
I just hope it's not like last year(with ACII). Really, delayed for a half year, yet it still had bugs and was downgraded from directX10 which was in AC to directX9. That day, it was sure that it was delayed for piracy. I just hope this year we will really see a quality product.

Don't get your hopes up because you will most probably be dissapointed. I would be surprised if ACB isn't just an average port to pc just like AC2 was.

A-True-Patriot
01-06-2011, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkicoN14:
2:buy a console and play the game earlir


Some of us hate gamepads.


Originally posted by FaTaLMeTaL:
im not gona play it cuz ubi think that ps3 and xbox360 arent going to be pirated.they dont want to say it in public that they delayed it for that reason for the pc.no ubi mamber can prove me wrong!

LoL.
It's stupid if that's the reason.
xbox360 and ps3 games are pirated the same day it's released, cuz they don't need any cracks.



Damn I wouldn't be so pee pee on ubi if they would ATLEAST GIVE A [edit] REASON WHY THEY ARE DELAYING IT..
Now they just say from nowhere "the beta for ps3 will start soon. Oh yea also we are delaying pc version, take that pc gamers!".
I'm starting to think that ubisoft has been infested with templars. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Whatever the reason is, the whole things is just bull. And what is up with all of you people saying "just buy the console version"?

What if you saved up a bunch of money to buy a car that you've had your heart set on-say, a Dodge charger. But when you get to the auto dealership, the folks say "why don't you just buy a ford instead?" Sure, both of them are vehicles, but why go with an inferior product just for convenience? It's the same thing with us PC gamers, and ACB.

I don't have an Xbox or a PS3, and I have no intention of buying one just to get ACB. And I shouldn't have to, either. Ubisoft's Assasin's Creed team is pretty much the only gaming team that is treating PC gamers like dung. Eidos, Infinity Ward, Rocksteady, Blizzard, DICE and_everyone else_ is being upfront with their PC games, and releasing them on time. I, for one, won't be surprised when COD: Black Ops' sales for the PC alone blast Ubisoft's ACB sales. I don't think Black Ops will neccessarily be a better game than ACB, but Infinity Ward knows how to treat their customers on all platforms.


This whole PC delay thing is just...beyond dumb. Especially if Ubisoft really holds the game back until March. I mean, they let people pre-order the PC version in May 2010! And now they're not gonna release it until March 2011? Really?


After all of that, we PC gamers deserve at least a firm release date and an explanation for the delay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This.
Total agreement.
PC is the superior system, you could go to the grocery store and buy a slab pizza in eight minutes, or you could wait 30 minutes for a pizzeria pizza. Us PC gamers prefer to wait for the better product.

AubreyWilborn
01-09-2011, 09:50 PM
I've checked the status of my Gamestop pre-order, and, for what it's worth, the status still says Feb. 22nd. So do a bunch of other retailer websites. So I guess that release date is still on. Whenever it is, it really sucks that Ubisoft won't give us a firm release date. But oh well.

As for future Assasin's Creed games-I wouldn't be surprised if they don't come out for the PC. I could honestly see Ubisoft not putting any more Assasin's Creed games out. Ubisoft treats PC gamers worse and worse with every AC release. They don't even give a reason for the felays anymore, and they don't even give a release date.

LCGuardian
01-10-2011, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
I've checked the status of my Gamestop pre-order, and, for what it's worth, the status still says Feb. 22nd. So do a bunch of other retailer websites. So I guess that release date is still on. Whenever it is, it really sucks that Ubisoft won't give us a firm release date. But oh well.

I don't want to sound defeatist here, but I wouldn't put a lot of stock in the release dates given by gaming companies. From memory, none of the dates that the companies guessed were right for AC2 last year. Probably safest to treat them as placeholders for orders rather than informed dates. I'd love the release date to be in February, but I'm picking early March.


Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
As for future Assasin's Creed games-I wouldn't be surprised if they don't come out for the PC. I could honestly see Ubisoft not putting any more Assasin's Creed games out. Ubisoft treats PC gamers worse and worse with every AC release. They don't even give a reason for the felays anymore, and they don't even give a release date.

I'm not one to defend Ubisoft ordinarily, but in fairness Gabe was on that video saying that the reason for the delay was to optimise the title for the variety of hardware available on PC. However, I think I've said earlier in this thread (or maybe in other threads) that I don't think that is a plausible reason for the delay. I'd instead say that Ubisoft are consistent in giving empty reasons to PC gamers for the delays, like polishing, optimisation or game breaking bugs.

I wouldn't be too concerned about Ubisoft abandoning the PC. Despite their draconian approach to piracy prevention, and their psychotic fear of piracy in general, I think PC gaming is still too profitable for them to abandon it in the forseeable future. Especially with games like ACB, where they can pump out an average port of an existing console title for little extra cost. Maybe the release of PC exclusive Ubisoft titles is done, but I think ports are safe.

TorQue1988
01-10-2011, 02:01 AM
they announced the PC release date and specs for AC2 on 25th of January 2010,and the announced release date was 16th of march 2010 but from what i remember it came earlier around 9th of march....so i guess we don't have to worry about the fact that they haven't announced ACB PC yet,we will probably have a release date by the end of this month...all we can do for now is keep our hopes up....they will probably compensate us for our "patience" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif with DLC's.

Windrius
01-10-2011, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by TorQue1988:
they announced the PC release date and specs for AC2 on 25th of January 2010,and the announced release date was 16th of march 2010 but from what i remember it came earlier around 9th of march....so i guess we don't have to worry about the fact that they haven't announced ACB PC yet,we will probably have a release date by the end of this month...all we can do for now is keep our hopes up....they will probably compensate us for our "patience" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif with DLC's.

FYI, there is 1 DLC released at the moment. And umm... As I remember... It's FREE.
Sooo compensation == null;

Victoroos
01-10-2011, 09:40 AM
I realyl would be glad if they make an lan integretion, it's easy, but sooo epic

AnthonyA85
01-10-2011, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TorQue1988:
they announced the PC release date and specs for AC2 on 25th of January 2010,and the announced release date was 16th of march 2010 but from what i remember it came earlier around 9th of march....so i guess we don't have to worry about the fact that they haven't announced ACB PC yet,we will probably have a release date by the end of this month...all we can do for now is keep our hopes up....they will probably compensate us for our "patience" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif with DLC's.

FYI, there is 1 DLC released at the moment. And umm... As I remember... It's FREE.
Sooo compensation == null; </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The PC version of AC2 had the Battle of Forli and Bonfire of the Vanaties DLCs INCLUDED with it, we didn't need to download them or anything.

Which means we will probably get the Capernicus Conspiracy mission pack included with the PC version of ACB, which means, it won't be PS3 exclusive anymore (I don't know if the Xbox folks will eventually get it though.)

ThaWhistle
01-10-2011, 08:08 PM
i imagine well get hte trajan market and forum maps for free too.

LCGuardian
01-10-2011, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by AnthonyA85:


The PC version of AC2 had the Battle of Forli and Bonfire of the Vanaties DLCs INCLUDED with it, we didn't need to download them or anything.

Which means we will probably get the Capernicus Conspiracy mission pack included with the PC version of ACB, which means, it won't be PS3 exclusive anymore (I don't know if the Xbox folks will eventually get it though.)

I wouldn't count on that. Mr Shade will probably shut this down officially, but let me just say that he has been adamant that the Copernicus Conspiracy will remain a PS3 exclusive. Given the DLC is free and not singleplayer related this time around, I'm just hoping we get a decent port of ACB (read DirectX 10/11 support and multicore support). I'm not expecting any additional or exclusive content beyond the vanilla game.

Jessemichael
01-11-2011, 02:20 AM
i already know the release date but does anyone know why it is being delayed or if it will have any added content.
(note i didn't read all 8 pages of the forum cbf so someone has probably already asked this question :S)

AntiChrist7
01-11-2011, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by Jessemichael:
i already know the release date but does anyone know why it is being delayed or if it will have any added content.
(note i didn't read all 8 pages of the forum cbf so someone has probably already asked this question :S)

You know the release date? please tell me.

The reason it is delayed (Gabe once made a youtube vid about it), is that it takes time to optimize for all the different systems and hardware pc has. As far as i know, ther eis no extra content yet for pc gamers

Stonerock1981
01-11-2011, 03:46 AM
Hi Guys!

I'm new to the forums, but I have been playing with Ubisoft games in the past years (Chaos Theory - it's a shame that I never got good enough in the multiplayer, Conviction - single player was fun, multiplayer is disappointment, AC2 - great game but no multi). I'm very interested in ACB because finally it will have multiplayer. But something is not clear for me, do I need to pre order/buy the collector's edition to have more multiplayer characters or I just need to pre order the game (not the collector's edition)? I'm a little affraid that maybe after 1 month Ubi will have a DLC anyway to provide access to other characters and then why would I spend extra money on the collector's edition? Theoretically speaking. I'm mostly interested in the game content and not what's in the box (map of Rome etc).
Could you guys help me out with this little info? Thanks in advance!

Stonerock

Windrius
01-11-2011, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Stonerock1981:
Hi Guys!

I'm new to the forums, but I have been playing with Ubisoft games in the past years (Chaos Theory - it's a shame that I never got good enough in the multiplayer, Conviction - single player was fun, multiplayer is disappointment, AC2 - great game but no multi). I'm very interested in ACB because finally it will have multiplayer. But something is not clear for me, do I need to pre order/buy the collector's edition to have more multiplayer characters or I just need to pre order the game (not the collector's edition)? I'm a little affraid that maybe after 1 month Ubi will have a DLC anyway to provide access to other characters and then why would I spend extra money on the collector's edition? Theoretically speaking. I'm mostly interested in the game content and not what's in the box (map of Rome etc).
Could you guys help me out with this little info? Thanks in advance!

Stonerock

Well, last year, if you bought umm.. "the deluxe edition" from steam, you got every single thing in-game the black edition had(black edition was the most advance)... Sooooo... Hopefully this year it will be the same, cause I want ALL the ingame content, but I just don't want the junk that is in the box.

Cederholm
01-11-2011, 10:50 AM
My patience is down to 0 now. Come on Ubisoft! We want the PC relase before Assassins Creed 3 comes out! !

LCGuardian
01-11-2011, 07:01 PM
Interesting. Looking at a (http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/83464/pc-still-an-important-platform-for-assassins-creed/) few (http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/01/12/ubisoft-says-pc-is-still-an-important-platform-for-assassins-creed-games-ubisoft-says-pc-still-important-for-major-franchises-promises-assassins-creed-brotherhood-is-looking-good/) articles (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=283083), it sounds like Ubisoft apparently still hold the PC in some regard. And yet, its notable that they say that in the quote, but don't give any information at all about ACB on PC that shows they mean what they say. Gotta say, looks like empty words and promises to me. I'd like to be proven wrong, by Ubisoft announcing a quality port of ACB and/or a release date in the near future, but experience in relation to the Assassin's Creed franchise doesn't give me a lot of hope.

There seems to be a real disconnect between what Ubisoft are saying about their dedication to the PC platform (like these quotes, or the Gabe Q&A video), and what the quality of their PC games and the release dates for these actually demonstrate. Are they so blind that they can't see the contradiction between their words and actions in relation to the PC? Or do they just think that empty talk will appease impatient PC gamers?

Zepheera
01-12-2011, 12:32 AM
Unfortunately, my patience with Ubisoft and the constant PC delays has withered my willingness to open my wallet for them when they do deign to let me play a game.

I choose not to play consoles simply because I dislike the handling of the controllers, in addition to the less than stellar graphics that are supported in many of the games for them. However, many other game developers, Bioware for one example, seems to be able to keep themselves on track and, barring exclusivity agreements for one console over another (xbox vs PS3 in the ME2 situation) they release a particular game across all platforms that they have said they were going to at the same time.

I waited for AC patiently, I waited for AC2 with moderate aggravation for being put off nearly at the last minute and put up with a ridiculous DRM that required me to STAY online to play a single player game. While my annoyance at being pushed back yet again with Brotherhood at the last minute was more than moderate, I was still giving them the benefit of the doubt on getting it out within a reasonable amount of time. Two months later with nothing more than a vague "Q1 2011" release date, and little to no information or explanation for the excessive delay, my patience is gone.

While I enjoy the games, I don't care for Ubisoft's business practices. I personally feel that in the future, I can do without the aggravation. Yes, I am only one person and I doubt that losing my 60 bucks is going to cause them to shed a tear, but be that as it may, I will not be purchasing AC: Brotherhood, nor will I be setting my sights or cares on any future projects from this company.

Maybe if enough people stand up like me and say the same without malice or threats, but with honesty, maybe we'll be heard and this type of thing will change.

Jessemichael
01-12-2011, 03:32 AM
originally posted by AntiChrist7:
You know the release date? please tell me.

The reason it is delayed (Gabe once made a youtube vid about it), is that it takes time to optimize for all the different systems and hardware pc has. As far as i know, ther eis no extra content yet for pc gamers

well as far as i know the release date is 22nd of February, im not 100% sure i just read some of the post of other people and found that date come up quite alot.

also what is the url of the video your were talking about

ace3001
01-12-2011, 05:37 AM
Multithreading and DX10+ support please. I'll wait patiently if I they'll give those. I believe that'll be the case with many PC gamers. =)

Razrback16
01-12-2011, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Zepheera:
Unfortunately, my patience with Ubisoft and the constant PC delays has withered my willingness to open my wallet for them when they do deign to let me play a game.

I choose not to play consoles simply because I dislike the handling of the controllers, in addition to the less than stellar graphics that are supported in many of the games for them. However, many other game developers, Bioware for one example, seems to be able to keep themselves on track and, barring exclusivity agreements for one console over another (xbox vs PS3 in the ME2 situation) they release a particular game across all platforms that they have said they were going to at the same time.

I waited for AC patiently, I waited for AC2 with moderate aggravation for being put off nearly at the last minute and put up with a ridiculous DRM that required me to STAY online to play a single player game. While my annoyance at being pushed back yet again with Brotherhood at the last minute was more than moderate, I was still giving them the benefit of the doubt on getting it out within a reasonable amount of time. Two months later with nothing more than a vague "Q1 2011" release date, and little to no information or explanation for the excessive delay, my patience is gone.

While I enjoy the games, I don't care for Ubisoft's business practices. I personally feel that in the future, I can do without the aggravation. Yes, I am only one person and I doubt that losing my 60 bucks is going to cause them to shed a tear, but be that as it may, I will not be purchasing AC: Brotherhood, nor will I be setting my sights or cares on any future projects from this company.

Maybe if enough people stand up like me and say the same without malice or threats, but with honesty, maybe we'll be heard and this type of thing will change.

Well it's certainly no secret that Ubisoft is a very poorly managed company (no wonder their stock is as bad as it is). And yes, I've seen the games on the XBOX 360 and it's utter garbage compared to the PC. Glad to see another fella on the same page. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

illara00
01-12-2011, 10:43 AM
Yeah I quess that the release date would be in end of February coz that's what Gamestop says and that's what my own retailer says http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif . I sent a complaint to Ubisoft about the hole mess with the PC release date and this is what I got for an answer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif :

Hello!

Thank you for contacting Ubisoft Technical Support regarding Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.

In order to respond to this email, please update this incident by clicking on the "Update Question" Button at the bottom of this page (Please do not create a new incident).

Unfortunately Ubisoft Technical Support is not able to provide you with the release date for Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood for PC. If any new information will be available it will surely be published on our website www.ubi.com (http://www.ubi.com).

If you have any further queries or issues please do not hesitate to contact us again and we will assist you further.

Kind Regards,
Dominik
Ubisoft Technical Support.

Mr_Shade
01-12-2011, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by illara00:
Yeah I quess that the release date would be in end of February coz that's what Gamestop says and that's what my own retailer says http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif . I sent a complaint to Ubisoft about the hole mess with the PC release date and this is what I got for an answer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif :
Any date you see on retailer websites - is only a 'best guess' - Ubisoft has not announced any date for the title as of yet.

I know that's not ideal for many, I myself have pushed for more info on the release date, but at present it's currently only 'Q1 2011' so it could be any time in the next few months.

I personally would not like anyone to take any date they see for granted, since unless it's listed on the official AC website or posted by a member of Ubisoft, it may well be wrong...

eclypse-arg
01-12-2011, 11:03 AM
I'M disgusted with ubisoft

is an insult to the users pc, then give us the treatment they give us much time delaying the output of the brotherhood for PC, when ps3 came out quite some time, without the pc players none of these companies would be where are today to see when they deign to release the game once and for all please.

There are probably some post about this, but I'm angry. Therefore ask if you have news and sorry.
Greetings

Mr_Shade
01-12-2011, 11:12 AM
While I can understand the anger, there's nothing anyone on the forums can help with.

Ubisoft did announce in the middle of last year, that the PC title was coming out at a later date, after the consoles - much like AC2.

That date is still to be announced officially, but it is still slated for Q1.

Ubisoft are well aware from the many post's by PC owners, that you are not happy in waiting, however the plan to release the PC version later, was announced many months ago.

Seekzor
01-12-2011, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
While I can understand the anger, there's nothing anyone on the forums can help with.

Ubisoft did announce in the middle of last year, that the PC title was coming out at a later date, after the consoles - much like AC2.

That date is still to be announced officially, but it is still slated for Q1.

Ubisoft are well aware from the many post's by PC owners, that you are not happy in waiting, however the plan to release the PC version later, was announced many months ago.

Not to be disrespectful but wasn't it announced in septembre? Thats hardly the middle of 2010 more like late quarter 3. This was only two months before the release date on consoles. That is a very late announcement for a delay and the vague information afterwards have been bad aswell. This is not directed towards you Mr shade but Ubisoft as a company. The whole "pc is harder to optimize" is a bad argument since other companies seems to be able to manage this fine.

Cederholm
01-12-2011, 01:01 PM
I agree with Seekzor!

Mr_Shade
01-12-2011, 01:10 PM
That was my Mistake - It was indeed announced the beginning of September.

So my mistake for confusing the dates.

However - they did state at the time the new expected release of 'Q1 2011' which is still on target.

As soon as it was clear that the PC version would not be released at the same time as the Console versions, they did release a statement to say so.

At the time, PC owners feedback was passed back to Ubisoft, but the PC version could not be rushed out due to complaints.

As soon as I or someone else gets a date for the PC version, it will be posted.

Windrius
01-12-2011, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Seekzor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
While I can understand the anger, there's nothing anyone on the forums can help with.

Ubisoft did announce in the middle of last year, that the PC title was coming out at a later date, after the consoles - much like AC2.

That date is still to be announced officially, but it is still slated for Q1.

Ubisoft are well aware from the many post's by PC owners, that you are not happy in waiting, however the plan to release the PC version later, was announced many months ago.

Not to be disrespectful but wasn't it announced in septembre? Thats hardly the middle of 2010 more like late quarter 3. This was only two months before the release date on consoles. That is a very late announcement for a delay and the vague information afterwards have been bad aswell. This is not directed towards you Mr shade but Ubisoft as a company. The whole "pc is harder to optimize" is a bad argument since other companies seems to be able to manage this fine. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, pc is kinda harder to optimise, it's got alot of possibilities that console just can't handle. Ofcourse, I don't think ubisoft is really gonna optimise anything.
I remember with ACII, there was a delay, well I thought the only plus side would be a quality product, but insted they gave us an unquality game (clearly a port from console) and it even used DIRECT3D 9! Really... Direct3D 9 is like ooooooolddddddd... Assassins creed used Direct3D 10, but nooooo ACII just had to use 9. I hope that we'll get Direct3D 10 or 11 in ACB. Else I will be very mad >http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

And also, they are giving us a [bad word] DRM which requires us to be online the whole time! Also I read somewhere that the DRM can monitor our PCs! Don't really know if that's true, but ubisoft could really do better. Damn they have stupid experience in these things. They could just do it simply that you need a net connection for the first time of launch. They could just send the PC information to ubisoft servers then generate an exe, encrypt it, obfuscate it, bitwise it, pack it, protect it in thousands of ways and send it back to the PC. That's it, if the exe is protected, can't be decompiled, it would only be possible to edit it in online memory! Ofcourse it's so simple to just shut down the exe upon debugger attachment or protect the code professionally by creating alot of functions that check the state of the memory data that is needed for loading the exe( if it's changed, just shut down the exe), which isn't that hard, all you need is to spend some [bad word] time on it! I mean really ubisoft, I can do that and you can't???? So much for a bunch of professionals.

ThaWhistle
01-12-2011, 02:06 PM
i have no problem waiting extra time for a better product. MY only real gripe is the lack of a release date, but this series seems to be stuck with the short warning for actual dates. Goes back as far as I can remember. UBI may not have the best pre-release information, but the game quality makes up for it.


I think the caffiene and creatine is making me all hyper and sentimental.

Seekzor
01-12-2011, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
i have no problem waiting extra time for a better product. MY only real gripe is the lack of a release date, but this series seems to be stuck with the short warning for actual dates. Goes back as far as I can remember. UBI may not have the best pre-release information, but the game quality makes up for it.


I think the caffiene and creatine is making me all hyper and sentimental.

The better product is questionable though since their earlier AC games was just a port with the same delay.

And yes Windrius PC is harder to optimize but the truth is that other companies seems to be able to release it across all platforms at the same time. However Ubisoft does not, wether or not it is a few week delayed like splinter cell (if I remember correctly) or up to almost half a year like AC2 was.

I hope ACB will prove me wrong and it is indeed more than just a port. Until then I won't buy the game.

LCGuardian
01-12-2011, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by Seekzor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
i have no problem waiting extra time for a better product. MY only real gripe is the lack of a release date, but this series seems to be stuck with the short warning for actual dates. Goes back as far as I can remember. UBI may not have the best pre-release information, but the game quality makes up for it.


I think the caffiene and creatine is making me all hyper and sentimental.

The better product is questionable though since their earlier AC games was just a port with the same delay.

And yes Windrius PC is harder to optimize but the truth is that other companies seems to be able to release it across all platforms at the same time. However Ubisoft does not, wether or not it is a few week delayed like splinter cell (if I remember correctly) or up to almost half a year like AC2 was.

I hope ACB will prove me wrong and it is indeed more than just a port. Until then I won't buy the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think a lot of PC gamers would be ok (maybe reluctantly) with Assassin's Creed titles releasing later on PC if they were decent ports. Let me make a comparison with Dragon Age 2. Bioware have included a range of PC specific features and optimisations, like DirectX 11 support. If the game had been delayed on PC (just to be clear, it hasn't), the inclusion of PC-specific features would have provided some degree of compensation for the delay. Of course, Ubisoft should note that Dragon Age 2 has not been delayed for PC, and Bioware have managed to include full PC support in a development window only a little longer than that for ACB (given ACB's multiplayer was in development before AC2's release), and have managed a simultaneous release. That alone has to silence the optimisation argument as justification for delay.

The point is that I think PC gamers would be less dissatisfied by a delay if the PC release which was more than a weak port. But really, despite the conciliatory noises Ubisoft seem to be making, the facts we have to go on are that AC2 was a bare port and carried the draconian DRM as an added bonus. Maybe ACB will be better, with features like DirectX 10/11 support and multicore optimisation. I certainly hope so. A genuinely PC optimised port would take the edge off the wait for a lot of PC gamers. But the only evidence we have to go off is AC2, and it doesn't give a lot of hope for ACB.

And really, if the port is like AC2 and carries the DRM, can anyone criticise PC gamers for being dissatisfied and vocally complaining?

ThaWhistle
01-12-2011, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Seekzor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
i have no problem waiting extra time for a better product. MY only real gripe is the lack of a release date, but this series seems to be stuck with the short warning for actual dates. Goes back as far as I can remember. UBI may not have the best pre-release information, but the game quality makes up for it.


I think the caffiene and creatine is making me all hyper and sentimental.

The better product is questionable though since their earlier AC games was just a port with the same delay.

And yes Windrius PC is harder to optimize but the truth is that other companies seems to be able to release it across all platforms at the same time. However Ubisoft does not, wether or not it is a few week delayed like splinter cell (if I remember correctly) or up to almost half a year like AC2 was.

I hope ACB will prove me wrong and it is indeed more than just a port. Until then I won't buy the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

not bad ports though. I've never come across any clunky leftover afterbirth from the console versions.

Windrius
01-12-2011, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Seekzor:
I hope ACB will prove me wrong and it is indeed more than just a port. Until then I won't buy the game.

I will buy the game even if it's a [bad word] port. :/
Multiplayer mode is hard to resist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ace3001
01-12-2011, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Windrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Seekzor:
I hope ACB will prove me wrong and it is indeed more than just a port. Until then I won't buy the game.

I will buy the game even if it's a [bad word] port. :/
Multiplayer mode is hard to resist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Gotta hand it out to Ubisoft Montreal, though. I too will be buying it even if the port sucks. Not for multiplayer, but just single player, seeing as I have a 1Mbps connection that won't be enough. They sure know how to sell even bad ports, by making the games so good that they're kinda irresistable. Hope ACB is just as good as AC2. =D
DX10+ and multicore would be the cherry on the icing, though, if they do add.

ace3001
01-13-2011, 04:11 AM
Damn... I just went to the Ubi main page. These guys don't even have the slightest respect towards their PC customers, at least to change the ACB release date. It still reads Holiday 2010 even for PC.
I took a screenshot just for ranting purposes. http://i255.photobucket.com/al...nd143/Untitled-3.png (http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh134/slxplnd143/Untitled-3.png)

TorQue1988
01-13-2011, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
That was my Mistake - It was indeed announced the beginning of September.

So my mistake for confusing the dates.

However - they did state at the time the new expected release of 'Q1 2011' which is still on target.

As soon as it was clear that the PC version would not be released at the same time as the Console versions, they did release a statement to say so.

At the time, PC owners feedback was passed back to Ubisoft, but the PC version could not be rushed out due to complaints.

As soon as I or someone else gets a date for the PC version, it will be posted.
but could you please at least tell us(or find out) if they will compensate us in some way for this,maybe dlc or something..you say that the developers know about the frustration and the pc owners feedback so what are they going to do about it?...i will still get the game anyway because i love the series but any sign of respect for us the pc users form the devs will be much appreciated (at least for me)...so i am curious if they will do something about this at all.

eclypse-arg
01-13-2011, 06:04 AM
I think that first of all, the urgency is a date, logical thing when a game is rumored to come out, secondly I think it is bad when it announced the creation of the game for different platforms implies leaving all on the same date and only change the pc very short time before, this is not done with users, does not seem right, I believe that the launch should be simultaneous in the different platforms of all games.

Deej4y17
01-13-2011, 06:28 AM
Damn man . waiting changed my mood.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif i love AC games.. but now i hate it.. Xbox, PS3 owners already finished the game and posting alot of threads abt the game.. and PC gamers just watching it..... UBISOFT hate PC Gamers...

not gonna buy this game anymore...

Windrius
01-13-2011, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by Deej4y17:
posting alot of threads abt the game

Have to agree on that.
Uber annoying when someone just makes a thread with some stupid name and does not put spoiler tags! >_<

Cederholm
01-13-2011, 10:04 AM
I dont understand how hard it can be for the leaders in Ubisoft to give us a PC release. Come on, set up a meeting and decide a date for us so we can start to play. !!!

Windrius
01-13-2011, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Cederholm:
I dont understand how hard it can be for the leaders in Ubisoft to give us a PC release. Come on, set up a meeting and decide a date for us so we can start to play. !!!

Well if there are actual problems, then it's impossible to give a release date.
They'll prolly give a date when the game is ready for shipping. I don't think they should start guessing the release date, what if even more problems come up?
I'm just kinda saying it like that cause I'm hoping we'll get Direct3D 10+ this time and they actually are optimising their Anvil Engine :]

AubreyWilborn
01-13-2011, 03:20 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: this PC delay/lack-of-release-date is just beyond ANY defense. How hard is it to give a solid release date?

And as for the whole "it's harder to optimise for PC line"-no, get that junk out of here. That just does not wash.

If Ubisoft REALLY IS having trouble porting ACB for the PC, then they are _so behind_ the other big game developers it's not even funny. Every other game company is able to port console titles over to the PC, without any major delays. Like someone else said, Bioware(for example) not only ported Dragon Age origins for the PC WITHOUT A DELAY, but they even OPTIMISED it! Now, I personally will still buy the game whenever it comes out, but I dunno if I'll buy any other AC games.


The issue of Ubisoft not knowing how to port PC game, is bigger than a bunch of angry PC gamers complaining on these forums. Much bigger. All of the successful gaming companies out there today, are the ones who KNOW how to make games for all platforms in a timely manner. Ubisoft's stocks aren't rising these days-they're doing poorly. The company ain't doing so hot these days. And it's th little things-like being able to port games as quickly as other companies-that will either set a company back, or propel it to the head of the pack. It's business, baby, business is competitive.

nekov4ego
01-13-2011, 03:38 PM
You wouldn't have known that the port took a lot of time if Ubi had announced Q1 2011 for a release date in the first place -- I mean, for consoles and PC at the same time. Then, they would have released the game without PC delay; or at least that's what you'd have thought.

There's no way of knowing if one game, which is released for PC and consoles at the same time, has already been finished for the consoles while its port is still not ready, if the publisher chooses to wait and release the game for every platform at the same time.

LCGuardian
01-13-2011, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by nekov4ego:
You wouldn't have known that the port took a lot of time if Ubi had announced Q1 2011 for a release date in the first place -- I mean, for consoles and PC at the same time. Then, they would have released the game without PC delay; or at least that's what you'd have thought.

There's no way of knowing if one game, which is released for PC and consoles at the same time, has already been finished for the consoles while its port is still not ready, if the publisher chooses to wait and release the game for every platform at the same time.

But any halfway decent developer aiming at simultaneous release dates for a multiplatform title would have a decent idea of how long a game would take to develop, and be able to allocate sufficient resources to each platform to complete development at roughly the same time. For example, a multiplatform title developed with the Xbox 360 as lead platform (like many multiplat titles) would require additional time for the PS3 and PC versions to be ported. Most developers seem to handle this extra allocation of resources pretty well in releasing all versions of a title simultaneously (unless they are aiming for rubbish ports and don't give the required time and resources).

I certainly don't think this gives any good reasons for delaying the PC version of ACB. Because ultimately going off the example of AC2 Ubisoft took the extra time but didn't provide a product that contained any additional features above a bare port for the PC. It wasn't as if they had a host of PC specific features they wanted to introduce but couldn't include before the console AC2 release date. There was nothing in the PC release over and above the console content apart from the basic requirements of keyboard and mouse support. The slightly enhanced graphics and the integrated DLC were nice touches, but ultimately don't reflect 5 months of additional development time.

Quak0r01
01-13-2011, 04:01 PM
two things:

1) I simply can't understand people ranting about a game being delayed because it's being optimised.

2) suggesting Dragon Age was ported from consoles to the PC is just silly.

LCGuardian
01-13-2011, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Quak0r01:
two things:

1) I simply can't understand people ranting about a game being delayed because it's being optimised.

If AC2 had been well optimised for PC then we wouldn't be. But it wasn't. So we rant because we are concerned that ACB will be delayed but not optimised to a degree which reflects the extra development time.


Originally posted by Quak0r01:
2) suggesting Dragon Age was ported from consoles to the PC is just silly.

That's not the point. Even if PC is the lead platform, the fact that Bioware managed to release the optimised PC version of Dragon Age: Origins alongside the console ports, and are set to do the same with Dragon Age 2 (including offering DirectX 11 support) puts paid to the Ubisoft argument. Dragon Age 2 does so especially, given its development has taken place in a compressed window similar to that for ACB.

nekov4ego
01-14-2011, 02:44 AM
Different games, different engines, different difficulties and bugs to be fixed by different teams of developers.
I am not defending Ubisoft or something, because I don't know for sure what is the reason for the delay. But there is a reason for me to think Ubisoft are doing all they can to port the game as soon as possible -- they will make more money from it.

Quak0r01
01-14-2011, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by nekov4ego:
Different games, different engines, different difficulties and bugs to be fixed by different teams of developers.

This a thousand times over.

Also in contrast to the transition form AC2 to AC:B Bioware PC devs don't have to deal with a multiplayer component. And if gamers don't want to deal with the little annoying screen that taunts you with "Could not connect to Host" or the like Ubisoft better take the time they need.

To elaborate on your example of Bioware and Dragon Age the console versions arguably suffered form being ports of the PC version so that problem works both ways http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Windrius
01-14-2011, 09:43 AM
This a thousand times over.

Also in contrast to the transition form AC2 to AC:B Bioware PC devs don't have to deal with a multiplayer component. And if gamers don't want to deal with the little annoying screen that taunts you with "Could not connect to Host" or the like Ubisoft better take the time they need.


You think multiplayer is something hard to do?
PFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffffff.. I bet they could add multiplayer in 1 week (give or take). What's so hard? Send packets, receive packets, do the stuff the client should do when received a packet and that's it!
Also if there would be a message "Could not connect to Host", then it's ubisoft server problem, nothing to do with PC.

They could have delayed it for 1 or 2 months. I don't think there's more time needed..... Unless there are like 2 or 3 coders working on the PC version....

nekov4ego
01-14-2011, 10:14 AM
Yeah, it will come to "only one person works on the port and fixes the bugs". Why would Ubisoft put effort to make a good port and release it as soon as possible? One more million of copies sold? What's the difference?

OK, I'll stop; it seems useless for me to try and explain some people what is probably going on (by giving them good reasons) with the port. If you like to think Ubisoft don't care about making money by selling PC games, because they think that hating PC players is much more important (I mean, come on, do they make games to make money, or to hate people?), just think it's the truth. Some publishers are better than others, some developers are better than others, yeah, that's true -- but Ubisoft made a good Prince of Persia The Forgotten Sands port, they optimized the graphics, so that the PC game was better than the console version. They are good. It is Assassin's Creed that creates the difficulties, something is probably not working properly.

The game will be released when Ubisoft are ready -- that's for sure ; )

LCGuardian
01-14-2011, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Quak0r01:

This a thousand times over.

Also in contrast to the transition form AC2 to AC:B Bioware PC devs don't have to deal with a multiplayer component. And if gamers don't want to deal with the little annoying screen that taunts you with "Could not connect to Host" or the like Ubisoft better take the time they need.

To elaborate on your example of Bioware and Dragon Age the console versions arguably suffered form being ports of the PC version so that problem works both ways http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

But that reasoning doesn't hold, because AC2 had a longer development window and no multiplayer, and it was still delayed and released in a similar window to ACB. And it wasn't a great port. It's not the multiplayer holding up the release of the PC version. Any issues where there are connection difficulties are server side rather than client side, and given ACB for PC will likely make use of a matchmaking system rather than a server browser any multiplayer issues would be common to all platforms - not a reason to delay one.

Dragon Age is a more traditional RPG, though, in the mould of Baldur's Gate (loved that game) in comparison to Fallout 3 or Oblivion, for example. The control scheme and gameplay are more suited to the PC's keyboard and mouse. I haven't played the console ports of Dragon Age, but I think some of the issues are attributable to the fact that traditional isometric RPGs are more suited to PCs, just as some other types of games (fighting games like Tekken for example) are inherently suited to consoles. I don't think that any issues are solely attributable to bad porting by Bioware. In contrast, the Assassin's Creed series are third person action games, a genre which is easily compatible with PC as well as consoles. There should be no control scheme issues for PC holding that version back (especially when the PC version of AC2 had that weapon wheel instead of being able to map weapons to the number keys on the keyboard).


Originally posted by nekov4ego:
Yeah, it will come to "only one person works on the port and fixes the bugs". Why would Ubisoft put effort to make a good port and release it as soon as possible? One more million of copies sold? What's the difference?

OK, I'll stop; it seems useless for me to try and explain some people what is probably going on (by giving them good reasons) with the port. If you like to think Ubisoft don't care about making money by selling PC games, because they think that hating PC players is much more important (I mean, come on, do they make games to make money, or to hate people?), just think it's the truth. Some publishers are better than others, some developers are better than others, yeah, that's true -- but Ubisoft made a good Prince of Persia The Forgotten Sands port, they optimized the graphics, so that the PC game was better than the console version. They are good. It is Assassin's Creed that creates the difficulties, something is probably not working properly.

The game will be released when Ubisoft are ready -- that's for sure ; )

You mean Ubisoft used to create good ports. I remember Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - that was a fantastic port, fully optimised for PC.

Just a warning here - everything following is my speculation solely. I'm not a person who thinks Ubisoft hates PCs and PC gamers. But I think their aversion to committing sufficient resources to PC versions of titles, and delaying the PC versions of titles, is that they have become psychotic about PC piracy. When I say psychotic, I mean vastly more paranoid about it when contrasted to other developers and publishers. I don't think anyone denies that PC piracy is an issue. I certainly don't. But I think Ubisoft have taken the wrong approach of thinking that every pirated version of their PC titles is a lost sale, and that piracy has to be competely prevented. I think this is behind the DRM, and behind the delays (to incentivise shifts to the console versions of their titles), and behind the average ports (they aren't spending money or devoting resources to the PC versions because of this piracy fear).

And more out-there specualtion - the piracy fear is a result of the fact that Ubisoft is in a difficult financial situation, and they think that they need to stop piracy in order to sell the millions of pirated copies of the games to pirates. Which doesn't make sense - there would be a significant number of pirates who would not purchase a title, but are willing to pirate it. The piracy figures don't represent lost sales - they exaggerate this figure significantly. Anyhow, just my opinion.

But my conclusion for all of this is that Ubisoft aren't taking the extra time to do a decent port of ACB. I think that the PC delay was planned well ahead of time (given the track record of AC and AC2), and that we will be looking at a bare port similar to AC2 for ACB. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I'm thinking that when details come out about ACB we will be hearing that the fantastic PC-specific features include compulsary elements like some adjustable aspect ratios and mouse support. I'm not anticipating DirectX 11 support for example (but I would like it).

Murcuseo
01-14-2011, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:

But my conclusion for all of this is that Ubisoft aren't taking the extra time to do a decent port of ACB. I think that the PC delay was planned well ahead of time (given the track record of AC and AC2), and that we will be looking at a bare port similar to AC2 for ACB. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I'm thinking that when details come out about ACB we will be hearing that the fantastic PC-specific features include compulsary elements like some adjustable aspect ratios and mouse support. I'm not anticipating DirectX 11 support for example (but I would like it).

To be honest I expect much the same, but I still hope after someone like Gabe putting his reputation on the line by claiming the delay was for optimization they come through. Even if just for his sake, he will get grief from PC users if they don't and that would be a sad thing, because he's well respected.

Seekzor
01-14-2011, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by kolitha.kuruppu:
Damn... I just went to the Ubi main page. These guys don't even have the slightest respect towards their PC customers, at least to change the ACB release date. It still reads Holiday 2010 even for PC.
I took a screenshot just for ranting purposes. http://i255.photobucket.com/al...nd143/Untitled-3.png (http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh134/slxplnd143/Untitled-3.png)

yeah it's small pieces like that , that really ticks me off, it is a sign of not giving a damn. If their own site isn't showing the right date what does that tell you and me as a customer?

Also LCGuardian, I remember you from the AC2 PC thread=) I was a bit less cynical then and was actually defending Ubisoft since I thought it was a one time incident (I also said it in that thread that if they do the same with the next title I would be ****ed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif)

nekov4ego
01-14-2011, 05:07 PM
@LCGuardian

Yeah, you could be right. But console games are being pirated, too.

When I used to google Prince of Persia The Forgotten Sands often, before it came out for the PC, the results of torrent sites that had pirated Xbox360 version of the game were there the very same day Ubisoft released it for Xbox and PS3.

Quak0r01
01-14-2011, 07:00 PM
But that reasoning doesn't hold, because AC2 had a longer development window and no multiplayer, and it was still delayed and released in a similar window to ACB
Which just shows how much more stuff in much less time they had to get working in ACB so your statement makes no sense. We are still talking about the ACB delay aren't we?

It's not the multiplayer holding up the release of the PC version. Any issues where there are connection difficulties are server side rather than client side, and given ACB for PC will likely make use of a matchmaking system rather than a server browser any multiplayer issues would be common to all platforms - not a reason to delay one.
While I agree on MP probably not being the main issue of the port but rather the fact of there being a gazzilion PC combinations and apparently they are not in it for a crappy port with horrible performance issues( you may and probably will disagree with this statement but that is a question of Ubi's credibility and frankly is wild speculations at this point and probably depends on how cynical you want to get)

But overall I have to say that PC connectivity can be a horror especially when matchmaking aka peer2peer connectivity enters the equation. I have spend countless sleepless nights over c/c++ TCP/IP networking and had something close to a phobia of peer2peer networking.

I don't want do derail this thread more with the example of Dragon Age and porting different genres between platforms any more so feel free to open up a private thread with me if you are interested in engaging further on this topic. I for one would really like to but obviously will not force a discussion onto another use http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

As for your speculations on piracy and the possibly planned delay....... i could actually agree with your reasoning.

PS: I hope anything I just wrote makes any sense as I'm sleep deprived and a bit frustrated as **** you UnrealScript **** you to hell http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

LCGuardian
01-14-2011, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Seekzor:
Also LCGuardian, I remember you from the AC2 PC thread=) I was a bit less cynical then and was actually defending Ubisoft since I thought it was a one time incident (I also said it in that thread that if they do the same with the next title I would be ****ed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif)

Yeah, that was back when I was angry about the AC2 delay and had too much time on my hands to complain. And back when I was naive enough to think that one person trying to make reasoned arguments would be enough to get some answers out of Ubisoft (remember my endless moaning about an Asia Pacific release date and the status of the Black Edition?).

Now I'm just kind of resigned to the ACB delay. I think I'm probably as ****ed as you are that they delayed and marginalised the PC version again, but what can we do? Despite what Shade says, even if these arguments and complaints are read by his superiors at Ubisoft, they are obviously working to some sort of business strategy regarding PC that we aren't privy to and doesn't allow any alteration of PC release dates or PC specific features that would address our complaints.

Anyway, after that rant, good to see you again. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Originally posted by nekov4ego:
@LCGuardian

Yeah, you could be right. But console games are being pirated, too.

When I used to google Prince of Persia The Forgotten Sands often, before it came out for the PC, the results of torrent sites that had pirated Xbox360 version of the game were there the very same day Ubisoft released it for Xbox and PS3.

Which is why Ubisoft's paranoia about PC piracy is even more frustrating and shortsighted. Because piracy, while not as widespread on consoles (at least I don't think so), is present and growing. And the most shortsighted thing of all is that the PC delay might act to push some pirates towards the console versions of the game rather than waiting for the PC version. But if they have no moral issues about piracy on the PC, aren't they more likely to be willing and able to pirate the title on the console of choice as well? Aren't Ubisoft simply shifting the problem rather than solving it?

Windrius
01-15-2011, 08:47 AM
SOooooooooooooooo anyway... Is anyone gonna play the PC ACB multiplayer? ^.^

mazokuss
01-15-2011, 09:05 AM
well ranting about the delay wont make the game release faster.....do this type of delaying really made me angry...i still dont get it why Ubisoft is the only one that put DRM to a platform ?? its useless.....and i heard something about ps3/xbox not being cracked, well i saw games being posted on torrents website with 1 week before a game was actually release and was fully working while on the other hand , the pc has 1 week to 1 month delay and full of bugs....piracy come's to all platforms.Finding excuses to the delay is lame....dont delay the game in the day you are supposed to release it, just dont give as a release date if your not wiling/poossible to keep your word. you make good games but try to remove the delay idea.....and the piracy idea its a bit fishy... who would waste hours of theyr lives to crack games for no rewards ? i mean who would ever do something wouldnt receiving rewards? life is an exchange, we all give to receive what we want

AnthonyA85
01-15-2011, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Windrius:
SOooooooooooooooo anyway... Is anyone gonna play the PC ACB multiplayer? ^.^

I might, if anyone actually bothers to play MP on the pc version.

LCGuardian
01-15-2011, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by AnthonyA85:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
SOooooooooooooooo anyway... Is anyone gonna play the PC ACB multiplayer? ^.^

I might, if anyone actually bothers to play MP on the pc version. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll certainly give it a go. But I probably won't have a lot of time to spend playing it. And SP will be the priority initially.

AntiChrist7
01-15-2011, 01:40 PM
Im gonna play MP. in fact i'm gonna start with MP, and level up while everybody is doing singleplayer :P

Windrius
01-16-2011, 07:28 AM
:/ ubisoft could give us MP BETA as compensation for the delay :P I wanna kick some MP ***!!!!

Victoroos
01-16-2011, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by AntiChrist7:
Im gonna play MP. in fact i'm gonna start with MP, and level up while everybody is doing singleplayer :P
Hhaha, me 2,I thought about the same, I loke at so many vid's that i think I will kick *** (actually, i will fail, but so what ;D)
I hope they will give us aln support 2.
And ofcourse a beta, that would be soooo nice, really, I would love, adn hug, and all those stuff

ThaWhistle
01-16-2011, 09:58 PM
i smell an announcement on Tuesday...

LCGuardian
01-16-2011, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
i smell an announcement on Tuesday...

Is that a hunch or do you know something more concrete? Or just hoping?

ThaWhistle
01-16-2011, 10:57 PM
call it a massive hunch im willing to bet money on. It is around this time of year they have announced the release dates for past PC releases.

CasualMancer
01-17-2011, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
call it a massive hunch im willing to bet money on. It is around this time of year they have announced the release dates for past PC releases.

Here's to hoping..

LCGuardian
01-17-2011, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
call it a massive hunch im willing to bet money on. It is around this time of year they have announced the release dates for past PC releases.

I agree that we're likely to hear something pretty soon, given the mid/late January announcements about AC2 last year. Anything that makes you suspect Tuesday in particular though?

Dizlol
01-17-2011, 04:11 AM
Would be the best bday gift from Ubi!

YHHTQ
01-17-2011, 07:38 AM
For what is worth, I noticed this while browsing eg.net...

http://www.getgamesgo.com/cata...ns-creed-brotherhood (http://www.getgamesgo.com/catalogue/game/assassins-creed-brotherhood)

Victoroos
01-17-2011, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by YHHTQ:
For what is worth, I noticed this while browsing eg.net...

http://www.getgamesgo.com/cata...ns-creed-brotherhood (http://www.getgamesgo.com/catalogue/game/assassins-creed-brotherhood)
i think they just RANDOM choose a date, but it would be epic

ThaWhistle
01-17-2011, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by YHHTQ:
For what is worth, I noticed this while browsing eg.net...

http://www.getgamesgo.com/cata...ns-creed-brotherhood (http://www.getgamesgo.com/catalogue/game/assassins-creed-brotherhood)

You searched for "assassins creed brotherhood"
Sorry, we didn't find any games that matched your search

AubreyWilborn
01-17-2011, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AnthonyA85:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Windrius:
SOooooooooooooooo anyway... Is anyone gonna play the PC ACB multiplayer? ^.^

I might, if anyone actually bothers to play MP on the pc version. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll certainly give it a go. But I probably won't have a lot of time to spend playing it. And SP will be the priority initially. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


This will be me as well. I'll play the singleplayer first and foremost, then get into the multiplayer.

Im actually worried that too few people will play multiplayer on the PC. Alot of PC gamers may have had their anticipation, and enthusiasm for this game so ruined by this delay, that few will actually play it. Also, if the game gets released in March, it will be released alongside other PC games with serious multiplayer components-such as Shogun 2. So I guess we'll just have to see. I hope I'm wrong.

AubreyWilborn
01-17-2011, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Quak0r01:

This a thousand times over.

Also in contrast to the transition form AC2 to AC:B Bioware PC devs don't have to deal with a multiplayer component. And if gamers don't want to deal with the little annoying screen that taunts you with "Could not connect to Host" or the like Ubisoft better take the time they need.

To elaborate on your example of Bioware and Dragon Age the console versions arguably suffered form being ports of the PC version so that problem works both ways http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

But that reasoning doesn't hold, because AC2 had a longer development window and no multiplayer, and it was still delayed and released in a similar window to ACB. And it wasn't a great port. It's not the multiplayer holding up the release of the PC version. Any issues where there are connection difficulties are server side rather than client side, and given ACB for PC will likely make use of a matchmaking system rather than a server browser any multiplayer issues would be common to all platforms - not a reason to delay one.

Dragon Age is a more traditional RPG, though, in the mould of Baldur's Gate (loved that game) in comparison to Fallout 3 or Oblivion, for example. The control scheme and gameplay are more suited to the PC's keyboard and mouse. I haven't played the console ports of Dragon Age, but I think some of the issues are attributable to the fact that traditional isometric RPGs are more suited to PCs, just as some other types of games (fighting games like Tekken for example) are inherently suited to consoles. I don't think that any issues are solely attributable to bad porting by Bioware. In contrast, the Assassin's Creed series are third person action games, a genre which is easily compatible with PC as well as consoles. There should be no control scheme issues for PC holding that version back (especially when the PC version of AC2 had that weapon wheel instead of being able to map weapons to the number keys on the keyboard).


Originally posted by nekov4ego:
Yeah, it will come to "only one person works on the port and fixes the bugs". Why would Ubisoft put effort to make a good port and release it as soon as possible? One more million of copies sold? What's the difference?

OK, I'll stop; it seems useless for me to try and explain some people what is probably going on (by giving them good reasons) with the port. If you like to think Ubisoft don't care about making money by selling PC games, because they think that hating PC players is much more important (I mean, come on, do they make games to make money, or to hate people?), just think it's the truth. Some publishers are better than others, some developers are better than others, yeah, that's true -- but Ubisoft made a good Prince of Persia The Forgotten Sands port, they optimized the graphics, so that the PC game was better than the console version. They are good. It is Assassin's Creed that creates the difficulties, something is probably not working properly.

The game will be released when Ubisoft are ready -- that's for sure ; )

You mean Ubisoft used to create good ports. I remember Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - that was a fantastic port, fully optimised for PC.

Just a warning here - everything following is my speculation solely. I'm not a person who thinks Ubisoft hates PCs and PC gamers. But I think their aversion to committing sufficient resources to PC versions of titles, and delaying the PC versions of titles, is that they have become psychotic about PC piracy. When I say psychotic, I mean vastly more paranoid about it when contrasted to other developers and publishers. I don't think anyone denies that PC piracy is an issue. I certainly don't. But I think Ubisoft have taken the wrong approach of thinking that every pirated version of their PC titles is a lost sale, and that piracy has to be competely prevented. I think this is behind the DRM, and behind the delays (to incentivise shifts to the console versions of their titles), and behind the average ports (they aren't spending money or devoting resources to the PC versions because of this piracy fear).

And more out-there specualtion - the piracy fear is a result of the fact that Ubisoft is in a difficult financial situation, and they think that they need to stop piracy in order to sell the millions of pirated copies of the games to pirates. Which doesn't make sense - there would be a significant number of pirates who would not purchase a title, but are willing to pirate it. The piracy figures don't represent lost sales - they exaggerate this figure significantly. Anyhow, just my opinion.

But my conclusion for all of this is that Ubisoft aren't taking the extra time to do a decent port of ACB. I think that the PC delay was planned well ahead of time (given the track record of AC and AC2), and that we will be looking at a bare port similar to AC2 for ACB. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I'm thinking that when details come out about ACB we will be hearing that the fantastic PC-specific features include compulsary elements like some adjustable aspect ratios and mouse support. I'm not anticipating DirectX 11 support for example (but I would like it). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


It really is sad that Ubisoft is so caught up in preventing piracy that they can't see the harm they are doing their company and their product. It's like they have the technical skill to make great products, but they don't understand the little things-like how delaying the PC product is not going to stop piracy.

Victoroos
01-17-2011, 12:39 PM
I think I will first play mp, cuse I czn always play sp, or do both at the same time, and I need portal 2 as mp too.

Mr_Shade
01-17-2011, 12:49 PM
There has not been a statement to say the title is delayed due to Piracy?

Or have I missed an official statement?


Making assumptions to cause rage posts is very worrying for me.. since I have to clear the mess up..


The last time I saw any statement it was due to optimising the game.

Nothing more..

Windrius
01-17-2011, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
There has not been a statement to say the title is delayed due to Piracy?

Or have I missed an official statement?


Making assumptions to cause rage posts is very worrying for me.. since I have to clear the mess up..


The last time I saw any statement it was due to optimising the game.

Nothing more..

Please do not go off-topic.
The current topic is 'post non-sense without reading the thread first'. Please stick to it!


.... And yes that was sarcasm.

Victoroos
01-17-2011, 01:49 PM
Oow, was it:P
100% Agreement

AubreyWilborn
01-17-2011, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
There has not been a statement to say the title is delayed due to Piracy?

Or have I missed an official statement?


Making assumptions to cause rage posts is very worrying for me.. since I have to clear the mess up..


The last time I saw any statement it was due to optimising the game.

Nothing more..


Where, and when did you hear the cause of the delay was optimisation? Myself, and others on this board are reasoning that the delay is due to piracy, because Ubisoft won't say OTHERWISE.

Ubisoft has given no reason for the delay, that I'm aware of. So it's up to me, and other folks on here like me, to draw our own conclusions. It would be great if Ubisoft would give us a solid reason, as well as a solid release date.

ThaWhistle
01-17-2011, 05:05 PM
I see no reason why they would delay for piracy, that makes no sense as people would pirate it as much now as they will in 3 months.

If there was any non-developmental issues thats keeping it under wraps its some sort of console exclusivity.

However, given the fragmented way they develop this, I have to say I am beginning to think they really are taking all of this time to optimize for PC hardware. It wouldnt be suprising to find out they have only a handful of people working on the PC side right now.

ThaWhistle
01-17-2011, 09:05 PM
I give it 25 hours before we have a release date.

Rbanh
01-17-2011, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by AubreyWilborn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
There has not been a statement to say the title is delayed due to Piracy?

Or have I missed an official statement?


Making assumptions to cause rage posts is very worrying for me.. since I have to clear the mess up..


The last time I saw any statement it was due to optimising the game.

Nothing more..


Where, and when did you hear the cause of the delay was optimisation? Myself, and others on this board are reasoning that the delay is due to piracy, because Ubisoft won't say OTHERWISE.

Ubisoft has given no reason for the delay, that I'm aware of. So it's up to me, and other folks on here like me, to draw our own conclusions. It would be great if Ubisoft would give us a solid reason, as well as a solid release date. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They actually said the reason they delayed the pc version is because they messed up the pc code.

LCGuardian
01-17-2011, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
There has not been a statement to say the title is delayed due to Piracy?

Or have I missed an official statement?


Making assumptions to cause rage posts is very worrying for me.. since I have to clear the mess up..


The last time I saw any statement it was due to optimising the game.

Nothing more..

Of course Ubisoft wouldn't put out an official statement saying that the delay was to deter piracy. How big a disregard would that show to the legitimate PC gamers buying legal copies of the game?

I admit I've been the main culprit of bringing up piracy in the last few pages of this thread. But my reasoning was pretty simple: AC2 had a lot longer for development and wasn't optmised well for PC, therefore it is likely ACB won't be either, therefore the optimisation reason is being used to obscure a real reason. And I believe that real reason is piracy prevention.

Of course I've made an assumption. That assumption is that ACB won't be well optimised for PC (meaning lacking PC specific features like DirectX 11 support, multicore support, or a significant range of graphical setttings). I guess if ThaWhistle is correct we will have a better idea pretty soon about the PC features. And believe me, I'll be the first to apologise if Ubisoft exceeds my expectations with the PC port.

But if I'm right, and the port is average, then I think the optimisation excuse is dead. I'm fully aware that you have a job at Ubisoft which involves supporting these public reasons, and I wouldn't want you to create issues for yourself by contradicting the official line. But maybe silence will be agreement if the port is average, Shade.

AnolBoruah
01-17-2011, 10:31 PM
Well I'm sure it's coming in first week of April '11 and many people will loose interest on ACB till then like me....as there are many superb games coming in that time like Homefront and Deus EX Human Revolutions. And for multiplayer only a handfull will be playing ACB multiplayer..as you'll get some awesome multiplayer features in Deus EX...like In game wall hack Gun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PS: I'm not advertising other games.....just giving reasons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ThaWhistle
01-17-2011, 10:33 PM
it doesnt matter what comes out. With the entire lack of marketing for the PC version, i wouldnt be suprised in the least if it just slips through the cracks.

despite knowing the release date should be soon, and an announcement ATLEAST right around the corner, the entire series history of a lack of PC support aside from giving us free DLC is getting downright annoying. By the time the game comes out for us, its virtually impossible to not have spoilers come out all over hte place, here, reviews, other gaming sites, friends, etc.

When AC2 came out, I already knew most of the plot, the only thing that shocked me was the "Its a me, mario!" part. Which is kind of like [Edit: No need for that on the forums]



I have no doubt the series will have its conclusion out before the ingame events take place in reality. But for us PC gamers, well be stuck waiting 4 months. So in the extremely unlikely event the world ends in 2012, we'll have our pants around our ankles with wads of spoiler dripping off our asses.


New [edit] for Legacy? Cool! What about the other part of ACB?

New dev video out today... no mention, ubigabe says another video in the VERY NEAR future... if there is no mention of hte PC version, well, [edit]


Lack of sleep is starting to catch up to me, but

Razrback16
01-18-2011, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
it doesnt matter what comes out. With the entire lack of marketing for the PC version, i wouldnt be suprised in the least if it just slips through the cracks.

despite knowing the release date should be soon, and an announcement ATLEAST right around the corner, the entire series history of a lack of PC support aside from giving us free DLC is getting downright annoying. By the time the game comes out for us, its virtually impossible to not have spoilers come out all over hte place, here, reviews, other gaming sites, friends, etc.

When AC2 came out, I already knew most of the plot, the only thing that shocked me was the "Its a me, mario!" part. Which is kind of like [Edit: No need for that on the forums]



I have no doubt the series will have its conclusion out before the ingame events take place in reality. But for us PC gamers, well be stuck waiting 4 months. So in the extremely unlikely event the world ends in 2012, we'll have our pants around our ankles with wads of spoiler dripping off our asses.


New [edit] for Legacy? Cool! What about the other part of ACB?

New dev video out today... no mention, ubigabe says another video in the VERY NEAR future... if there is no mention of hte PC version, well, [edit]


Lack of sleep is starting to catch up to me, but

Yeah it's pretty irritating -- I just recently was able to play Brotherhood on the XBOX360 and then went back to the PC to play AC1 & AC2 and the graphics comparison is just staggering -- the XBOX360 is just SO choppy, grainy, and full of aliasing (jagged lines) when compared to the pristine graphics on the PC with 16x Anisotropic Filtering & 8x Antialiasing. People who use consoles have no idea what they're missing playing on the massively inferior hardware that are the consoles.

Crazy_Foxy_
01-18-2011, 08:27 AM
Hello everyone.
So we are here 18 january 2011 and still no news about bortherhood on pc.
There are some speculative release date, like 2/22/2011, 2/18/2011 but nothing of official.
Now i think we (pc gamers) deserve some respect, so, please give us at least a release date.
And please don't answer with Q1 2011, please give us this release date.

Victoroos
01-18-2011, 08:34 AM
yes, let's hope they will hurry, when was AC2 released, in march some where??

Victoroos
01-18-2011, 08:35 AM
[edit: post lost in forum glitch]

Victoroos
01-18-2011, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by AnolBoruah:
Well I'm sure it's coming in first week of April '11 and many people will loose interest on ACB till then like me....as there are many superb games coming in that time like Homefront and Deus EX Human Revolutions. And for multiplayer only a handfull will be playing ACB multiplayer..as you'll get some awesome multiplayer features in Deus EX...like In game wall hack Gun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PS: I'm not advertising other games.....just giving reasons http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
what about portal 2, crysis 2, really, i don't think it will last long, but I, will alsways be loyal to ACB, who will follow, or who will fail http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Cederholm
01-18-2011, 08:53 AM
C O M E O N UBISOFT !!! I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME !!

Mr_Shade
01-18-2011, 09:02 AM
Guys..

If you are only going to bump this thread, with the same question all of the time, that will get you no where.


You all know the official word on the release date, it's still on track for Q1 - that is all I can say..

If you constantly bump the thread demanding an answer on the release date, I will have to lock this thread and that will accomplish nothing.


Get angry and start swearing or being abusive and I will hand out suspensions..

Crazy_Foxy_
01-18-2011, 09:07 AM
seriously? We can not ask?? We can not complain??
Why??
We have nothing and we cant complain.

YHHTQ
01-18-2011, 09:11 AM
Some people seriously need to get a life... One thing is for sure: Bumping this thread a thousand times a day won't help you. I'm as excited for the PC release as the next guy, but be patient, guys. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Mr_Shade
01-18-2011, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Crazy_Foxy_:
seriously? We can not ask?? We can not complain??
Why??
We have nothing and we cant complain. My post was to everyone...

Did I say you could not ask or complain?
No..


You have the right to post in a civil and constructive way about anything..


However posting demanding answer's to things you don't want to hear since you already know, is not the way..

I have had to edit several post's due to content - one of which was lost due to an forum error - this is an E rated forum so please post with in the rules.

Bumping the thread demanding the same information is the quickest way to get it locked though..

This thread will not stay should the posting continue in the above way..


The release date for the PC is set for Q1 2011 - it is on track for that.

I have pushed for more information on a date on the behalf of the community, however that answer is not forthcoming..

So people need to calm down and accept the information we have at present.


If you do not like that answer, the only thing I can suggest is you complain directly - support link is in my signature.


When there is news on a fixed and 100% confirmed date - it will be posted on the AC website and here...

Victoroos
01-18-2011, 09:42 AM
ofcourse he won't (@mrshade, si that what i'm doing also bumping, cuse I don't try to)
yes, everyone wants teh release date, and thankfulle(se video dex 31, they know we, pc players, excists,that's a start, not like AC2.
So let's talk about other stuff, or not directly ask about the release date, just speculate.
But here si a statement: once we have the release date, we will start agueing about what will it include etc, so a human is never satisfied, remeber that ;D

ThaWhistle
01-18-2011, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
Guys..

If you are only going to bump this thread, with the same question all of the time, that will get you no where.


You all know the official word on the release date, it's still on track for Q1 - that is all I can say..

If you constantly bump the thread demanding an answer on the release date, I will have to lock this thread and that will accomplish nothing.


Get angry and start swearing or being abusive and I will hand out suspensions..

with respect, what else is there left for us to do other than rant? We understand you're helping us as much as you can, and we'll get news when its available. But we have nothing to chew on in the meantime. All possible questions have been asked and reasked here, all speculation has been speculated. I can only hope that UbiGabes mention of another video update on various assassins creed ongoings gives us something,(but I've already said that).


There has been maybe 1 useful post here per page for the last several pages.(most of them being updates from you) I reckon well have minutes to weeks to wait before the release date gets announced, but until then, we don't have much to do.

Mr_Shade
01-18-2011, 10:57 AM
If there is nothing constructive to add to the thread, then rather than risk the thread being deleted - it may be wise not to post?

There are other subjects you could discuss rather than just the release date, to keep the thread current.

If however people are bumping to hopefully force a change in release date, or to make sure Ubisoft are aware that people are not happy I can say this:

The date is set for Q1 2011 - it's still on track, however when there is a exact date - I or another member of staff will post it.

Ubisoft are VERY aware that people are not happy with the release date issue - however there is nothing to achieve by posting demands or bumps.

When there is news, it will be posted, so in the mean time - lets keep it on topic and civil in this thread please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ThaWhistle
01-18-2011, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
If there is nothing constructive to add to the thread, then rather than risk the thread being deleted - it may be wise not to post?


That would make sense, but I live too close to a nuclear powerplant. So, I'm going to go sit in a corner for a while.

LCGuardian
01-18-2011, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
Ubisoft are VERY aware that people are not happy with the release date issue - however there is nothing to achieve by posting demands or bumps.

When there is news, it will be posted, so in the mean time - lets keep it on topic and civil in this thread please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Presumably if Ubisoft are very aware of our impatience, and we're in the same situation we were last year (without a scrap of information well into Q1) then Ubisoft just don't care. Not a great look for them to be honest.

Seems an odd situation to threaten to lock the thread though Shade. At the moment it seems to be stopping some of the proliferation of noob threads asking about the release date or complaining. Doesn't that justify keeping it open, even if it turns into a bit of a rant thread?

AnolBoruah
01-18-2011, 11:35 AM
**off topic**

Just heard one more treat for PS3 gamers.....buyers of Portal 2 PS3 version will get PC version for free..chck Gamespot.
Seems like Sony is luring PC gamers to get a PS3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sorry @ Mr_Shade but couldnot resist to post this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Black_Widow9
01-18-2011, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by AnolBoruah:
**off topic**

Just heard one more treat for PS3 gamers.....buyers of Portal 2 PS3 version will get PC version for free..chck Gamespot.
Seems like Sony is luring PC gamers to get a PS3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sorry @ Mr_Shade but couldnot resist to post this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Hello and welcome to the Forums http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Please post anything Off Topic here-
Bring Up Whatever You Would Like! #32 (off topic only) (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/2291046388)

ThaWhistle
01-18-2011, 05:08 PM
UbiGabe today on twitter regarding news on the pc version " None yet, but I am hoping we will have something to announce soon. "

LCGuardian
01-18-2011, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
UbiGabe today on twitter regarding news on the pc version " None yet, but I am hoping we will have something to announce soon. "

Quite interesting on Gabe's twitter account how much space is given to addressing console patching concerns versus addressing the concerns of PC gamers. I know that's probably an unfair thing to say, but Ubisoft really are rolling out the red carpet for console gamers and telling PC gamers to get lost.

Its been a year since I signed up and first posted about AC2, and I still haven't heard any good reasons for not giving a release date by well into Q1 2011 for ACB (or for that matter Q1 2010 for AC2). Other companies can confirm release dates for titles months in advance. As a single example, look at the new Elder Scrolls game. Announced almost a year out from release, and it has a release date. Look at AC2 and ACB - console release dates were announced months in advance. They truly, truly treat us like second class gaming citizens.

ThaWhistle
01-18-2011, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
UbiGabe today on twitter regarding news on the pc version " None yet, but I am hoping we will have something to announce soon. "

Quite interesting on Gabe's twitter account how much space is given to addressing console patching concerns versus addressing the concerns of PC gamers. I know that's probably an unfair thing to say, but Ubisoft really are rolling out the red carpet for console gamers and telling PC gamers to get lost.

Its been a year since I signed up and first posted about AC2, and I still haven't heard any good reasons for not giving a release date by well into Q1 2011 for ACB (or for that matter Q1 2010 for AC2). Other companies can confirm release dates for titles months in advance. As a single example, look at the new Elder Scrolls game. Announced almost a year out from release, and it has a release date. Look at AC2 and ACB - console release dates were announced months in advance. They truly, truly treat us like second class gaming citizens. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
well, as last page was an indication, we can only ask the same question so many times. theres nothing new to say yet. plus with all the DLC coming out, and the issues that were there today, I guess it makes sense.

LCGuardian
01-19-2011, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
well, as last page was an indication, we can only ask the same question so many times. theres nothing new to say yet. plus with all the DLC coming out, and the issues that were there today, I guess it makes sense.

You're right of course. As is Shade. I realise that any amount of moaning, complaining or reasoning on this forum will make no difference to when Ubisoft provides a release date and other info about the PC version. It just grates that Ubisoft treat PC gamers so poorly in comparison to some other developers and publishers. But what can we do, except continue to post our concerns on here and hope someone with authority at Ubisoft has a change of heart?

AnolBoruah
01-19-2011, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
UbiGabe today on twitter regarding news on the pc version " None yet, but I am hoping we will have something to announce soon. "

Thanx for posting that here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
He replied that to me..u can chck my name http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif hehehe :P

Razrback16
01-19-2011, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by LCGuardian:
Quite interesting on Gabe's twitter account how much space is given to addressing console patching concerns versus addressing the concerns of PC gamers. I know that's probably an unfair thing to say, but Ubisoft really are rolling out the red carpet for console gamers and telling PC gamers to get lost.

Why is calling a spade a spade an unfair thing to say? You're just acknowledging reality. Nothing bad about that.


Originally posted by LCGuardian:
Its been a year since I signed up and first posted about AC2, and I still haven't heard any good reasons for not giving a release date by well into Q1 2011 for ACB (or for that matter Q1 2010 for AC2). Other companies can confirm release dates for titles months in advance. As a single example, look at the new Elder Scrolls game. Announced almost a year out from release, and it has a release date. Look at AC2 and ACB - console release dates were announced months in advance. They truly, truly treat us like second class gaming citizens.

That's because there aren't any good reasons for it. It's well known that Ubisoft isn't managed very well, but they have some people there who come up with really good ideas for games, so as long as they have those people there, they can alienate certain portions of the fan base and they'll still stay in business.

Razrback16
01-19-2011, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by AnolBoruah:
**off topic**

Just heard one more treat for PS3 gamers.....buyers of Portal 2 PS3 version will get PC version for free..chck Gamespot.
Seems like Sony is luring PC gamers to get a PS3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sorry @ Mr_Shade but couldnot resist to post this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

They've got to throw something in to try to bribe people to downgrade to a console from a PC, that's what smart business people do when they have an inferior product. Gotta throw in some free stuff to make some of the more ignorant people out there feel like they're getting a deal.

Anyone out there who has played AC on a PC in maximum image quality and then goes and plays it on a console (or vice versa) knows how big of a difference there is. Sony's just being smart. Gotta entice the masses. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AnthonyA85
01-19-2011, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Razrback16:
Anyone out there who has played AC on a PC in maximum image quality and then goes and plays it on a console (or vice versa) knows how big of a difference there is. Sony's just being smart. Gotta entice the masses. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Well, personally, I wouldn't know about that, since I do all of my gaming now on the PC, still have a PS2, but it's not set up anymore. And I've never played the AC series on consoles. My cousin has, but I've never asked him about graphics (TBH, don't think it matters to him), i'll have to ask him about it next time i see him.