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MEGILE
10-21-2004, 09:34 AM
because if you mess with her, she will bite you in the *** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I and Future, while on a torpedo run in the Beaufighter ran into a bit of a furball... we were bounced by Two Zeros and a Ki-61.
Future, being the bomber dude that he is, wanted to stay and fight, and me being the fighter pilot.. thought we were in deep shiznet.
So I followed his lead...

We quickly got the alt advantage, and went in for the attack
http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/1stpass.jpg

Future nicely dispatches an A6m5, with bomb still attached http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/futurekill.jpg

While Future was busy with the Zero, I had a go at the Tony... after I gave him a nice hole in his wing, he went down http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/myfirstkill.jpg

With only 1 Zero left, I follow Future in for the kill.
http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/bothonlastguy.jpg

Future puts a few rounds on him, and makes him bleed
http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/lastkilliwoundhim.jpg

But he is still alive and flying... as Future breaks off, I put the nail in the coffin
http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/aveit1.jpg

yeah future that was me, TimTim :P I use that alias, to cover my lame-*** Keyboard flying, untill I get a new Joystick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The moral of the story is, respect the Beau, she's a beauty ~(excuse the pun)

ps. Kudos to the Japanese pilots, you put up a good fight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

actionhank1786
10-21-2004, 09:58 AM
haha Megile awesome shots!
And that's some great flying for a keyboard! I can barely keep the plane tracking straight let alone shoot anything when i try keyboard flying.
Speaking of i think i'm gonna grab an X45, the joystick i have no has no middle to it, so it's hard to center for shots, it just bobs all over...
Ahh the world of flight sims http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

aminx
10-21-2004, 10:03 AM
did you try the torps yet?
aminx

Future-
10-21-2004, 10:09 AM
I was flying with YOU, the nice man who already gave us several good screenies?

S! Sir http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Nice shots. Literarely http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yes folks, the Beaufighter may not be a classic furball machine, but she sure ain't have "fighter" in her name for nothin'!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

MEGILE
10-21-2004, 11:27 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yeah Hank, the X-45 is one I'm considering getting, I've also been recommended the MS Sidewinder FF, so I am not quite sure yet.

Yes Aminx, we have tried the Torpedos.
I think it is the MK.13 torpedo which the A-20 and Beaufighter both carry... its pretty big http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I haven't yet tested how many torpedos it takes to bring down a Carrier.... online, I usually arrive late for the party, so the carrier is already damaged before I release my own torpedos.

The Beau is one hell of a machine, and is probably the only bomber I would consider flying seriously, when I'm not in a fighter... I am beginning to see what Saburo Saki meant, when he talked about an encounter with one of thse things.

jeanba2
10-21-2004, 11:27 AM
I made a very funny fight too :
Remembering the Coastal Command, I made a quick mission with a Beaufighter chasing a FW 200 Condor : lot's of immersion

Freycinet
10-21-2004, 11:31 AM
three single engine jap turn-machines lose to two beaufighters, one of them flown with the KEYBOARD!!? - sorry, but they can't have been very good, or you guys are Gods! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'll have PF in the mail tomorrow, I look forward to trying the beau!

aminx
10-21-2004, 11:55 AM
WHISPERING DEATH !!!!!!


AMINX

Shrap
10-21-2004, 12:16 PM
Whispering death was a Japanese term for the corsair wasn't?

And thanks for the AAR guys.

Bobsqueek
10-21-2004, 12:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shrap:
Whispering death was a Japanese term for the corsair wasn't?

And thanks for the AAR guys. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

that was whistling death for the corsair, whispering for the beau

Shrap
10-21-2004, 01:42 PM
Ah that right.

You guys were playing online right? How'd you get those screen shots, can you record OL missions?

MEGILE
10-21-2004, 02:10 PM
Yes you can http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

clint-ruin
10-21-2004, 02:14 PM
Wow.

Wow.

I hadn't realised we were getting the Mk21 of the Beaufighter. That was the license produced australian version of the type. I was stoked enough about just getting -any- Beaufighter before.

Bristol Beaufighter 21: Australian production version similar to British Mk XIC, with Hercules XVIIIs, Sperry autopilot, four 20-mm nose cannon and four 0.50-in (12.7-mm) guns in the wings, provision for two 250-lb (113-kg) bombs and eight 60-lb (27-kg) rocket projectiles under wings. No dorsal fin and no nose radar. Produced by Government Aircraft Factory at Fishermen's Bend. First flown May 26, 1944, and 365 built for RAAF up to end-1945 (of which one not delivered). Equipped five RAAF squadrons operational against Japanese targets in Pacific area.

http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/html%20pages/BRISTOL%20156%20BEAUFIGHTER.htm

& the real thing here:

http://www.aarg.com.au/beaufighter.htm

Philipscdrw
10-21-2004, 06:04 PM
Clint-ruin I've been staring at your sig for months without making any sense of it.

I want the Beaufighter as well, along with the A-20 and B-25. Great aircraft to deliver munitions on airbases with I reckon.

Snootles
10-21-2004, 09:09 PM
It's from a fantastically random cartoon series called Sealab 2021.

BTW, I really can't wait to fly the Beaufighter, but I would enjoy flying a TF.Mk. X or NF.Mk. VIF even more. I've got a terrible jonesin' for some old-school radar action.

ehangar
10-21-2004, 10:08 PM
How do you take these screenshots? Are they taken during the actual action, or afterward when you reply the mission with the recorder?

I can't imagine anyone flying, fighting and snapping away at the same time from an external view http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Burnin_777_AVG
10-21-2004, 10:42 PM
I'm glad you guys like the Beau.

BV

aminx
10-22-2004, 12:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Burnin_777_AVG:
I'm glad you guys like the Beau.

BV <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

now give us the flyable KATE....pleaaaaase....
aminx

Jieitai_Tsunami
10-22-2004, 04:29 AM
Oh your Timtim Megile I though he was some Norwegian pervert who couldn't speak English http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

No wonder you 5th guys are never online if you all use aliases http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

I guess those Japanese pilots were pretty krap. My copy of PF was supposed to be here today. Watch out post men gonna get a beating http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif.

Future-
10-22-2004, 04:34 AM
Maybe I shouldn't mention it, some might see it as a "proof" for US planes being too good... but today I actually managed to out-maneuver and destroy a Ki-61... with an A-20 G Havoc. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Granted, a small potion of luck helped, as I think that my enemy had lost sight on me after a certain turn, and in the few seconds of confusion, I was able to get on his six.
And he sure was no ace...

Still one can tell that underestimating both the Beaufighter and the Havoc is dangerous at the very least.

S!

Arm_slinger
10-22-2004, 04:57 AM
Just a qquestion for you all. How does the Beau handel for you all all? It handls like a brick for me i find- the roll rate is near to none existant, acceleration, in a dive especially is extremely poor, the control lock up is pretty bad as well

Is it mean to be like this? or is there something wrong with my Beau? I only ask as i have been lead to believe that the Beau was a very maneuverable bugger for its size

Future-
10-22-2004, 05:51 AM
Look at the screenshots... if the Beau would really be a pig, we sure would've lost.

It's rollrate isn't the best, and a 1 on 1 encounter is almost always a lost cause for the Beau when pitted against fighters; still, it's strengths are speed and firepower, along with a good deal of agility and durability.

Don't expect it to be what it clearly isn't - a twin engine fighter.
It's role is that of a fast support/assaultplane, and it perfectly fits that role.

What helped me and Megile winning our battle was that we actually supported eachother - thus using the Beaufighter in it's role http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif .

S!

Arm_slinger
10-22-2004, 06:21 AM
Hmmmm guess i need to practice more in it then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I think it appears slow as well because i use mph now instead of kph, im not used to seeing those low numbers yet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

HamishUK
10-22-2004, 06:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Future-:
Don't expect it to be what it clearly isn't - a twin engine fighter.
It's role is that of a fast support/assaultplane, and it perfectly fits that role.
S! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually in real life the Beau' was a very capable fighter and started life as an efficient nightfighter.

WOLFMondo
10-22-2004, 09:02 AM
It was the ultimate British nightfighter, ground attack and anti shipping plane for allot of the war. Really one of the first true multirole combat planes.

Has anyone tried the RAAF Beau campaign yet?

Theres a massive, huge flaw in it, this really needs fixing (i'll mail it off + screenies to the bug reporting address). This is repeatable 100% of the time.

Start a campaign, take off, follow the flight path and your sqaud mates, run right into the side of a valley about 8 minutes into it. They don't even make the effort to pull up, your entire wing is dead. This affects your ground campaign progression by all accounts as well. The only way to stop this is to go as flight leader.

This does beg the question, was this campaign tested? I work in software testing for a living and to be honest such a glaring and obvious bug was overlooked is a little shocking. Especially since theres very few RAAF campaigns and no RAF campaigns for the Beaufighter. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Inadaze
10-22-2004, 09:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
It was the ultimate British nightfighter, ground attack and anti shipping plane for allot of the war. Really one of the first true multirole combat planes.

Has anyone tried the RAAF Beau campaign yet?

Theres a massive, huge flaw in it, this really needs fixing (i'll mail it off + screenies to the bug reporting address). This is repeatable 100% of the time.

Start a campaign, take off, follow the flight path and your sqaud mates, run right into the side of a valley about 8 minutes into it. They don't even make the effort to pull up, your entire wing is dead. This affects your ground campaign progression by all accounts as well. The only way to stop this is to go as flight leader.

This does beg the question, was this campaign tested? I work in software testing for a living and to be honest such a glaring and obvious bug was overlooked is a little shocking. Especially since theres very few RAAF campaigns and no RAF campaigns for the Beaufighter. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've been playing a Seafire Campaign around Iwo Jima (Sp?), the AI do seem to be prone to flying into the nearest hillside. (Not every mission, but pretty often.) I ordered Red Section to attack a Zeke last night, and was horrified to watch them plough into a hillside instead of flying over or around it. (The bit that got me was they HAD the alt to go over the hill, but dived straight into the its side anyway)

I hope this can be patched, it has always been a problem with the game. Its a shame because the AI do seem to be improving in other areas, Wingman seem to do a better job of covering you and friendly fire has become unusual rather than usual.

I'm planning to try a Beaufighter campaign next, I hope it isn't too bugged to be unplayable.

Inadaze

clint-ruin
10-22-2004, 11:52 AM
The one thing which is guaranteed to violate Olegs little rules on mission building and waypoints ... is the campaign generator itself! Not surprising that this screws up simple waypoints in PF I'm afraid, it has always been rubbish at making AI friendly waypoint paths.

I think that for most people the first playable computer generated missions are going to be the ones UQMG spits out. C'mon Uberdemon :>

WOLFMondo
10-22-2004, 12:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Inadaze:

I'm planning to try a Beaufighter campaign next, I hope it isn't too bugged to be unplayable.

Inadaze <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well since your whole squad dies every mission you can't really progress very much. Although the Beaufighter using energy tactics is quite good a fighter against early IJA planes. I did survive several missions before I gave up.

Much as im impressed and pleased with PF I shouldn't have to use third party software to make a campaign cause the one in there is broke. This happens no matter what you do when you start a Beaufighter campaign. Its not like they could have missed it, if they looked. Do they have beta testers? Or just guys who get to play the game first and leak the game? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif grrr. I don't normally like to whine or complain but this did annoy me.

If they needed more time to make PF and rectify existing issue then I'd have happily sat and waited.

Anyone else noticed the collision problems with the Beaufighter and the A20 as well? When you crash land and the wing strikes the ground it doesn't break off, it just sinks in. Not something to complain about and I'll submit it with the others.