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blazer-glory
07-09-2005, 10:58 AM
I've just read a little about this WWI/WWII german pilot called Ernst Udet who could pluck a handkerchief from the ground using the wing tips of his plane!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Tooz_69GIAP
07-09-2005, 11:12 AM
Yep, Udet was a superb flier. He committed suicide in 1940 I believe, as he couldn't take the stress of being in a command position in the Luftwaffe for which he was entirely unsuited.

He was not a nazi, just a fervent patriot, and he loved to fly. But because of his skill and experience, he was pushed up top instead of just being allowed to fly, like he wanted.

At lewst that's what I remember of reading about him. Anyone else with better info?

Low_Flyer_MkII
07-09-2005, 11:31 AM
There's good basic info' on him in Len Deighton's 'Fighter,the true story of the Battle of Britain.' A sad end to a remarkable life.

p1ngu666
07-09-2005, 11:45 AM
yep he was a amazing pilot. was said he should have died 1000 times doing the stunts he did http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

and ive seen a few on tv, entirely belivable http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

blazer-glory
07-09-2005, 11:48 AM
I actually read about him in an old Atari ST flight sim manual for, 'Their finest hour'. Wish Oleg produced manuals like that for his sims. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

F19_Ob
07-09-2005, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by blazer-glory:
I've just read a little about this WWI/WWII german pilot called Ernst Udet who could pluck a handkerchief from the ground using the wing tips of his plane!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


Yeah.. I've ssen him do it on film several times.
I even have it on video.
He did all kinds of crazy stunts and he often ended a display with swiching of the engine very low and then made a loop and came out of it on the runway and immediatly touching down when he came out of it.

Like many other pilots he joined the nazi party to be able to fly.
G├┬Âring saw to it that he got two curtis biplanes and possibilities to fly.
G├┬Âring was his mate and fellow pilot in ww1.

Udet came to hate G├┬Âring and most of the people he was forced to deal with.
Udet also belived the war was lost when hitler turned against russia.

Seemingly he called most highranking militaries idiots and when his friends asked something related to them he often refered to them as cretins, wich was an unhealthy thing to do, but at that time he was almost always drunk and high on narcotics like G├┬Âring was aswell.
I remember a german doctor saying that it wasn't unusual with strong drugs those days.

F19_Olli72
07-09-2005, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by F19_Ob:
Like many other pilots he joined the nazi party to be able to fly.
G├┬Âring saw to it that he got two curtis biplanes and possibilities to fly.
G├┬Âring was his mate and fellow pilot in ww1.


Yeah i remember that from the documentary i saw about him, wasnt the Curtiss planes from G├┬Âring a bribe to get him to join the nazi party?

I havent read that much about his early days, but he was quite an ace, with 62 victories he was the second highest scoring ace of WW1. Although he was very close to buy the farm himself a couple of times.

heres some good reading: http://jastaboelcke.de/aces/ernst_udet/udet_introduction.htm

F19_Ob
07-09-2005, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by F19_Olli72:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F19_Ob:
Like many other pilots he joined the nazi party to be able to fly.
G├┬Âring saw to it that he got two curtis biplanes and possibilities to fly.
G├┬Âring was his mate and fellow pilot in ww1.


Yeah i remember that from the documentary i saw about him, wasnt the Curtiss planes from G├┬Âring a bribe to get him to join the nazi party?

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes it was a bribe. Several who knew Udet hated G├┬Âring for doing that against a friend.
G├┬Âring knew that Udet most of all wanted a curtis biplane wich at the time was one of the best and fastest and one could do very hard maneuvers and dive fast without breaking it.
It was what inspired Udet for what would become known as the "stuka" ju87.

Udet could himself go to america to choose the planes. Few aviators could have resisted such a treat I think.
At the time he didn't know that he would be forced to continue making propaganda for the nazis for the rest of his short and miserable life.
After a while under nazi control he wouldnt even fly without being drunk, or do anything else either seemingly.