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womenfly
02-09-2005, 07:51 AM
Just unpacked my TrackIR3 Pro with Expansion Vector last night. Read the entire manual, yes I do read the manuals before using the hardware. Installed the software, plugged in the hardware, booted up PF, took-off for a practice flight and WOW! Yes, all I can say is WOW! This thing is just awesome.

Being pilot in real life. Using the TrackIR3 made me feel right at home. It sure beats using the view keys or the mouse. It made flying this sim a BAZILLION times better!

Being able to move your head around, as one would in flying in real life, and having that ability to look and follow an enemy aircraft all around the sky, is just pure immersion.

It took me all 30 minutes to learn how to move my head around and keeping my eyes fixed to the screen. After a few combat flights, it was second nature and I kicked a$$ too!

If you do not own one of these, you are missing out on the next level of flying. Being a mechanical engineer, its well built and designed, simple to use and setup. I have not had any problems or issues with its setup or use.

Again, well worth every dime I spent for it!

<span class="ev_code_PINK">I give it a</span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

womenfly
02-09-2005, 07:51 AM
Just unpacked my TrackIR3 Pro with Expansion Vector last night. Read the entire manual, yes I do read the manuals before using the hardware. Installed the software, plugged in the hardware, booted up PF, took-off for a practice flight and WOW! Yes, all I can say is WOW! This thing is just awesome.

Being pilot in real life. Using the TrackIR3 made me feel right at home. It sure beats using the view keys or the mouse. It made flying this sim a BAZILLION times better!

Being able to move your head around, as one would in flying in real life, and having that ability to look and follow an enemy aircraft all around the sky, is just pure immersion.

It took me all 30 minutes to learn how to move my head around and keeping my eyes fixed to the screen. After a few combat flights, it was second nature and I kicked a$$ too!

If you do not own one of these, you are missing out on the next level of flying. Being a mechanical engineer, its well built and designed, simple to use and setup. I have not had any problems or issues with its setup or use.

Again, well worth every dime I spent for it!

<span class="ev_code_PINK">I give it a</span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
02-09-2005, 07:59 AM
Told ya so http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

...and I couldn't agree more. Even moreso than a nice HOTAS with rudder pedals, the TrackIR has to be the best investment for this sim. And the newer TrackIR 3 Pro with the vector expansion and newest drivers is even better than before.


TB

WWSensei
02-09-2005, 08:09 AM
I would rather fly with keyboard and TrackIR than with a joystick and no TrackIR...it's become that essential for me.

madsarmy
02-09-2005, 08:17 AM
Don't use an in cockpit screenshot as your desktop pic. You will spend all your time trying to look around.

jensenpark
02-09-2005, 08:20 AM
I'm planning on picking it up soon (busy relocating accross the country so once I settle).
How easy is it to set up...?

T_O_A_D
02-09-2005, 09:00 AM
Women http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif She read the manual http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Welcome to our world http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Its the only way to fly a sim. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

madsarmy
02-09-2005, 09:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
Women http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif She read the manualhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you think that's why this is not a
"My TIR dosnt work! It's rubbish!" posthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

T_O_A_D
02-09-2005, 09:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by madsarmy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
Women http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif She read the manualhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you think that's why this is not a
"My TIR dosnt work! It's rubbish!" posthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Most Likely http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I would like to see a track or a video of it being used in IL2. I have the Tir 3 pro already and it works fine as is. But I could get swayed into the vector thing maybey.

Fighterduck
02-09-2005, 10:02 AM
but...i never bought track ir because it seem to not so confortable.
It's ture that you can move the visual with your head,..but you have to watch the screen...so you can't really fallow the enemy or watch around you...to stress for the eyes...i mean...only virtual helmets cna give a full immersion ( i know they aren't yet available http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

WWSensei
02-09-2005, 10:30 AM
Sorry Fighterduck but you have a misconception. I never have to move my head more than 1 or 2 inches to either side. About as difficult as looking at the front edge of my monitor versus the middle of my monitor. If I want to look over my virtual right shoulder in the game it only takes a few centimeters of movement of my head to get that view....very easy and comfortable to keep my eyes on the screen. The software also allows you to scale the amount of movement to your desire.

There is no stress on the eyes and I promise you following an enemy or looking around you is quite easy to do.

The movement is not 1 to 1 but is scaled. It is very natural feeling and seeing the screen is no problem at all.

As for the vector clip...my recommendation is that if you already have TrackIR3 Pro you don't need the vector clip. It does make tracking a bit smoother but it's not worth the cost just for that. If you fly something like FS2004 as well or one of the other sims that supports 6DOF then it would be worth it.

womenfly
02-09-2005, 11:41 AM
Just an added note. Looking at a new product that one is not familiar with does leave allot of speculation about it, especially when you are putting out 140 some bucks!

Not really believing that all things work the way they are advertised, I also had my doubts.

Again, all I can say is it works just like the videos they have on their web site. In addition, as far as the setup went .... from opening the box, loading the software, plugging in the hardware, opening the TrackIR3 program, putting on the hat ( I do not use the vector feature for IL2/PF only for FS2004), registering on-line and starting my first flight was 30-minutes.

<span class="ev_code_PINK">ONLY IF YOU READ THE MANUAL, BOYS.</span>

If you do order one, the manual is on-line, read it an be ahead of the game so you can start right in and FLY!

TrackIR Manual (http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/support/manual-v4/tir4-index.html)

<span class="ev_code_PINK">Best purchase I made since IL2/PF!</span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fighterduck
02-09-2005, 11:47 AM
aha...my was only a first impression opinion: that's because i only watched some track ir videos...and it didn't seem to confortable to use ( for the reasons i wrote up there ).
Don't misunderstand me please, I wasn't criticizing track ir.

Old_Canuck
02-09-2005, 11:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fighterduck:
aha...my was only a first impression opinion: that's because i only watched some track ir videos...and it didn't seem to confortable to use ( for the reasons i wrote up there ).
Don't misunderstand me please, I wasn't criticizing track ir. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Been using TIR original for over a year [stretches neck "pop"]. Works great [stretch "crack"].

womenfly
02-09-2005, 11:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fighterduck:
aha...my was only a first impression opinion: that's because i only watched some track ir videos...and it didn't seem to confortable to use ( for the reasons i wrote up there ).
Don't misunderstand me please, I wasn't criticizing track ir. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<span class="ev_code_PINK">We know. That€s what€s so cool about these forums.... everyone has an opinion, and they are all equal in content.</span>

kSetuni
02-09-2005, 12:07 PM
Good to hear it womenfly. I plan on oreerign mine with the vetor expansion even though I knwo its not supported I heard it is still an improvemnt over the 3pro. I also like tha fact that there is a 30 day no questions asked return policy. That also sold me on it. Cant wait this time in 2 weeks I hope to be making the same post :-)

Then after that its time to learn a new joystick in the CH fighterstick/pro throttle that will arive at the same time. Least I'll have a good backup in my X45 still.

S.M.

S 8
02-09-2005, 12:13 PM
Me want one but me can´t afford one for the moment so me still have to povride for a while.

Me jelaous of you though... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Waakzaamheid
02-09-2005, 01:10 PM
In case you didn't know, if you purchased Pacific Fighters, there is a $30 discount included in the box for TrackIR3Pro(though you can go directly to... well maybe I shouldn't say?).

--GB

rijnton1944
02-09-2005, 01:14 PM
I also had my doubts especially about the vector expansion. Now I do understand why almost every TIR
user says that he/she can't imagine flying without it anymore.
As for the vector expansion I can only confirm that everything is much smoother and stabler in IL-2.

nickdanger3
02-09-2005, 01:31 PM
Just wait S 8 : when BoB comes out and everybody wants to use vector expansion, there will plenty of used TIR-2's to buy very cheap. I'll be one of the sellers.

Sultan_of_Swing
02-09-2005, 02:20 PM
I've had mine about a month. Words fail me at describing just how much this has enhanced the Il-2 experience. I finally ventured onto a full real (kinda) server; Zekes vs. Wildcats. (fun server btwhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. It was just so much **** fun!

I have vector expansion. I had no complaints with 2DOF the VE just smoothes it out. Gonna try FS2004 I think.

BTW, I read manuals too. Just not bright enough to go it alone, ya know? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

WWSensei
02-09-2005, 03:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fighterduck:
aha...my was only a first impression opinion: that's because i only watched some track ir videos...and it didn't seem to confortable to use ( for the reasons i wrote up there ).
Don't misunderstand me please, I wasn't criticizing track ir. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry if my response seemed harsher than it was intended. No misunderstanding. Your comments are fairly common ones to people who don't know about the product. What Natural Point should do is show a video of someone actually playing a game verus just the view you get in game.

That way people would see you don't actually move your head very much to traverse your view.

GAU-8
02-10-2005, 01:21 AM
those who say " im perfectly happy with my mouse/hatswitch, and can track just as fast"... dont REALLY know what they are missing. until you spend the cash, and take a "look" at what its all about..your missing the biggest part of the game.BEING THERE!

moving the head view, by MOVING YOUR HEAD,and not your HANDS is the most immersive thing you can do.

so glad many of you are "using your head" now :P

1.JaVA_Razer
02-10-2005, 04:20 AM
Dam,reading this just reminds me I still need to get a USb extension cable for the 2nd hand TIR1 I got from a squadmate

THANKS TONKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But haven't tried it yet because I keep forgetting to get an usb extension cable ....

only thing keeping me atmo from going back into FR server (gave it up when my joystick began acting up again) was the headmovement and not being able to keep track of the enemy as I fly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Dammit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Need to do so immediatly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Bearcat99
02-10-2005, 07:22 AM
Keep in mind too that you dont have to turn your head.. moving side to side is just as effective.... I turn my head a max 25 degrees or so left and right..... I havbe TIR 2.