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Low_Flyer_MkVb
11-01-2006, 11:02 AM
Pics here:
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F6_Ace
11-01-2006, 11:06 AM
Nice pics and surprisingly intact.

I think that Oleg must have used the second black and white photograph, the one with his wife/gf/whoever, when modelling the forward view http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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leitmotiv
11-01-2006, 11:24 AM
The Norwegians are so industrious at recovering Luftwaffe relics, they are likely to be able to field an entire Luftflotte in a few years! They have cornered the market on Ju 88s of all types, for example. Incredible. The Germans ought to be giving them a subsidy!

WOLFMondo
11-01-2006, 11:44 AM
Looks in good condition, at least all the aluminium probably will be, the BMW is probably a rusty overside paper weight by now.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Capt Eric Brown says: "I found in general the default joystick settings tended to be oversensitive. With my recommended settings it will give people a real feeling of how they actually flew."

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11-01-2006, 11:46 AM
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Friendly_flyer
11-01-2006, 12:15 PM
Here's the article translated from Norwegian:

By: ??ivind Ask
Published: 01. Nov. 2006, 06:00

Some facts
December 15th, 1943 the German FE-190 A2 Yellow 16 made an emergency landing between Langemura and Little V??r??na at Solsvik. It was found last year by the Naval vessel ???Tyr???. It will be recovered today. The plane originally served with Staffel 12 at Herdla. After conservation, the plane will be returned to Herdla war museum.


up into the light after 63 years

The FW 190 that crashed near Solsvik in 1943 is being recovered. Entusiasts has worked quietly for years with the plans.

The whole thing started in 1995 in connection whit the 50 year anniversary of the peace on 1945, the local historian Martha Ekerhovd learned that there was a German plane in the sea outside Solsvik. It had crashed there during the war. In 1995 she was the principal at Misje school. She wanted to know more about the plane, and got more information from her uncle, Johannes Misje, and Jakob Langeland, bout who had heard the story from those involved back then in 1943.

Finding expertise

Martha got in contact with Svein Ove Agdestein, who she knew as an airplane enthusiast, and the ball started rolling. The two of them rose the interest of Halvor Sperbund, Ivar Nordland, Geir Tangen, Olav Helvig and Ole Bj??rn S??lensminde, all of them with a solid interest in war history.

This was the start of Work-group FW 190 A2 ??? Yellow 16, with the aim of finding and recovering the plane who had been a part of Staffel 12 at Herdla. The first search was in 1995/96 and again in 2004, but without luck. Last summer, they got help from the naval vessel ???Tyr???. They found the plane at first attempt, at 60 meter (180 ft) depth.


Controlled emergency landing

Eye-witneses from back then told that the pilot followed the plane into the depth, but managed to get loose and reached the surface, where he was saved by two local fishermen.

- How far the pilot followed the plane down is unknown, but it could hardly have been all 60 meters, says airplane mechanic Halvor Sperbund. The pilot had obviously made a controlled emergency landing, we can see that from the underwater photos, Sperbund explains. The photos shows damage to the tail.

- The pilot was strapped in well, but could loosen the harness with a simple knocking to the lock. Then he would have had to wiggle free of the cockpit and the seat after the plane had tuched down on water. He must have blown of the hood prior to landing, it is nowhere to be found. After getting free of the plane, he could have triggered the gas-cartridge for his life-west which would have brought him to the surface rather quickly, Sperbund continues.
The machine had not been in combat. The pictures taken by ???Tyr??? show the gun covers over the canons being in place.

The plane was sitting in a steep underwater rocky slope at 40 degrees, nose downwards. The machine is in exceptionally. The project group have held the cards close to their chest all the time, fearing divers would learn about the wreck and plundering it.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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F0_Dark_P
11-01-2006, 12:49 PM
sweet! i really must go there when it gets to the museum http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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WOLFMondo
11-01-2006, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
You would think the salt water would corrode it very quickly?

After 60 years I'd guess so but these guys really went to town on the topic:
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1095....00093.x?cookieSet=1 (http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1095-9270.2006.00093.x?cookieSet=1)<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Capt Eric Brown says: "I found in general the default joystick settings tended to be oversensitive. With my recommended settings it will give people a real feeling of how they actually flew."

VPB_Kjetilman
11-01-2006, 01:29 PM
And this is what we think it looked like (apart from the exhaust flaps which it lacked):
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11-01-2006, 01:30 PM
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F6_Ace
11-01-2006, 01:44 PM
I've been inside the U boat that was recovered in similar water conditions that was at Liverpool (although the museum I think has gone bust now) and it was surprisingly intact, especially the parts above the water line (it sank upright).

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Chuck_Older
11-01-2006, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by faustnik:
You would think the salt water would corrode it very quickly?

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11-01-2006, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by faustnik:
You would think the salt water would corrode it very quickly?

The RLM specified a type of epoxy paint that resists corrosion quite well </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I respect the chemical industry back then http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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fordfan25
11-01-2006, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
Pics here:
http://www.bt.no/lokalt/hordaland/article310875.ece

awsome ........ do we get to shoot it down again? im a strong supporter of Recycling http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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11-01-2006, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Looks in good condition, at least all the aluminium probably will be, <span class="ev_code_RED">the BMW is probably a rusty overside paper weight by now</span> .http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif not if its the O.M version. im sure it will fire right up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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11-01-2006, 02:02 PM
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VPB_Kjetilman
11-01-2006, 02:11 PM
More photos of the wreck here:

http://www.luftwaffe.no/wreck/index.htm

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11-01-2006, 02:16 PM
Cheers, Kjetil. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
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marc_hawkins
11-01-2006, 03:19 PM
Oh man i gotta resist the urge to go snorkeling for 109's off brighton beach now...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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GerritJ9
11-01-2006, 03:27 PM
For a wreck that has been in the sea for over 60 years there's surprisingly little marine growth on her. Wonder if she'll be fully restored to her former glory or merely cleaned up.....
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WOLFMondo
11-01-2006, 03:40 PM
http://www.luftwaffe.no/wreck/source/image/img_8414.jpg

Is that standard issue on the A2?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Capt Eric Brown says: "I found in general the default joystick settings tended to be oversensitive. With my recommended settings it will give people a real feeling of how they actually flew."

zjulik
11-01-2006, 04:09 PM
>>Is that standard issue on the A2?
Yes but you have to set SeaCritters=1 in conf.ini. High end rigs only.

VPB_Kjetilman
11-01-2006, 05:13 PM
Actually this is a male Fw 190 and what you see in that picture is,... well, you get my drift!

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F6_Ace
11-01-2006, 05:52 PM
That looks like one of those things in HL2 that pull up unsuspecting passers-by.

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flaming_onion
11-01-2006, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by F6_Ace:
That looks like one of those things in HL2 that pull up unsuspecting passers-by.

Someone lob a barrel into it then shoot the barrel.

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11-01-2006, 08:29 PM
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Jaws2002
11-01-2006, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by VPB_Kjetilman:
More photos of the wreck here:

http://www.luftwaffe.no/wreck/index.htm

Regards,

Kjetil


Awesome pics there Sir.


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11-01-2006, 09:57 PM
Sponge Bobs going to be peeved when he finds out his wulf is gone. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Friendly_flyer
11-01-2006, 11:44 PM
Thanks for the pictures, Kjetil! As a biologist and IL2 player, I find them doubly interesting!

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fordfan25
11-02-2006, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by faustnik:
When did FordFan turn into a clown? Infected by Hayate Ace? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif you know you want to laugh G.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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gorillasika
11-02-2006, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by WOLFMondo:

Is that standard issue on the A2?

The aliens are probing the earthly technology to build better ufos. Luckily they haven't found the Spitfire and La7 wrecks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
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F0_Dark_P
11-02-2006, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by Jaws2002:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VPB_Kjetilman:
More photos of the wreck here:

http://www.luftwaffe.no/wreck/index.htm

Regards,

Kjetil

Awesome pics there Sir.


Someone make a skin for it pls. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/Kjetil_Aakra/Fw190A3_Yellow16_pub.jpg


Someone make a skin for it pls. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>bump! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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VPB_Kjetilman
11-02-2006, 12:27 PM
Hi Friendly_Flyer.

I did not have the time to be there during the recovery, but I am involved in researching this fascinating aircraft.

And yes, the biology attached to this machine was intriguing, to say the least! Imagine how it would smell after a few days if they didn't clean it up! I have smelled such recovered aircraft and I can assure you it is not something you'd like to get close to!

Meanwhile, I am working on a skin for this baby:
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Friendly_flyer
11-02-2006, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by VPB_Kjetilman:
Imagine how it would smell after a few days if they didn't clean it up!

Oh yes, we once forgot to clean out last weeks catch on a field coruse...

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F6_Ace
11-02-2006, 02:19 PM
There is something strangely appealing about having a Focke Wulf 190 'convertible'

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F0_Dark_P
11-02-2006, 05:01 PM
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EPP_Gibbs
11-02-2006, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
Oh man i gotta resist the urge to go snorkeling for 109's off brighton beach now...

Yep, the Channel will be full of assorted warplanes from both sides.

Spinnetti
11-02-2006, 07:16 PM
To several of your comments, the ultra cold water inhibits both corrosion and marine growth.. couldn't ask for a better spot to rest under water.. truely remarkable shape in any case.

JamesBlonde888
11-02-2006, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
Oh man i gotta resist the urge to go snorkeling for 109's off brighton beach now...

Ha http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

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HayateAce
11-02-2006, 09:23 PM
Thank God this enemy plane was shot down.


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11-03-2006, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by VPB_Kjetilman:
Meanwhile, I am working on a skin for this baby:
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Kjetil

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Skarphol
11-03-2006, 12:57 AM
Nice pictures and fantastic skin, Kjetil!
Thanks for posting!

What is the plan for the plane now? Restoration at Herdla?

FriendlyFlyer, do you happen to know what that horrible red creature on top of page two is? It looks like something from the 'Alien'/'Aliens' movies..

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Friendly_flyer
11-03-2006, 12:57 AM
Skarphol, the crittes is a sea-anemone. It looks so bad bacause it is about to dry up. It's an even worse pictures of it further out in Kjetilmans photo-series. In life, it is one of the most beautiful animals on Earth. There are hundrets of species, so I'm not sure exactly which one it is.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Haeckel_Actiniae.jpg/420px-

The rest of the slime-balls are tunicates or sea-squirts, the group of animals that are actually our closest relatives ammong the invertebrates!

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WOLFMondo
11-03-2006, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
Oh man i gotta resist the urge to go snorkeling for 109's off brighton beach now...

You are a brave man indeed. The water looks funny in Brighton.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Capt Eric Brown says: "I found in general the default joystick settings tended to be oversensitive. With my recommended settings it will give people a real feeling of how they actually flew."

marc_hawkins
11-03-2006, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by EPP_Gibbs


quote:
Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
Oh man i gotta resist the urge to go snorkeling for 109's off brighton beach now...

Yep, the Channel will be full of assorted warplanes from both sides.

Indeed, guess i'll need a shopping basket too. Any requests?

Orginally posted by JamesBlonde888




Ha

I might head up to Mildura in search of a Spitfire if you will lend me that snorkel.

Well, the snorkel currently in residence did come from one of those seaside shops that also sell buckets&spades, rock and dodgy inflatable dinghies. are you sure?

Originally posted by WOLFMondo

You are a brave man indeed. The water looks funny in Brighton.


Oh yeah, better get my shots up to date. Seriously, we are not going to win any blue flag awards anytime soon, luckly the drunken hordes that usually visit brighton don't mind about such niceties. Still, Hepatitis B is a small price to pay for a E3 next to the garden gnomes...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Heavy_Weather
11-03-2006, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by VPB_Kjetilman:
Actually this is a male Fw 190 and what you see in that picture is,... well, you get my drift!

Kjetil


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VPB_Kjetilman
11-03-2006, 04:43 PM
"What is the plan for the plane now? Restoration at Herdla? "

It will now first be cleaned, of course (we both know what happens if they don't) and then they will preserve the aircraft in its current state, at least initially. This may sound odd in these days when Fw 190s are built from scratch, but it will in fact be a very valuable piece of history as it will show original colours and markings. A remarkable documentation if you ask me.

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nsteense
11-09-2006, 12:33 AM
For the last 5 years I've been going to Flying Legend at Duxford. Its now a date in my calender whith all the markings on it not to miss it!!!
Although each year, the organizers try to get a rare aircraft over to the show, I was wondering what would be a real treat?
I was thinking of the the two Me109 based in Germany, as well as the ME262 from the Messerschmitt foundation (although a recent developement, I still would like to see it fly with its contemporaries) and the recent newly built FW190 from FlugWerk GmbH (same comment as above).
Another rare view would be the other flying Lancaster from Canada; that would be a sight to behold to see it fly next to BoB memorial flight Lancaster!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

wayno7777
11-09-2006, 12:41 AM
I know what Low_Flyer_MkVb wants to see, http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n47/LFMkVb/LFVids/?a...rent=ClashWhirly.flv (http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n47/LFMkVb/LFVids/?action=view&current=ClashWhirly.flv)<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Monty_Thrud
11-09-2006, 01:11 AM
Tempest or Typhoon or Bf110, Mosquito would be nice... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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stathem
11-09-2006, 01:30 AM
Pipe dream - a Mosquito

More realistically, that Beaufighter that's under restoration.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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nsteense
11-09-2006, 02:03 AM
Maybe I had to be a bit clearer in my question http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif.
I was wondering which <span class="ev_code_BLUE">flyable</span> WW2 airplane you would like to see at Fighter Legends. But off course, if dreams would come true, I really would to like to see a Tempest or a Typhoon fitted with a Sabre engine in the air again. The sound of this engine was apparently spine chilling!!

The Beaufighter is definitely something to look forward to.As is the P61 currently in restoration somewhere in the US

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11-09-2006, 02:08 AM
a Kyushu J7W1 Shinden<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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HotelBushranger
11-09-2006, 02:52 AM
Fokker D21! So people realise there's more to WW2 aviation that just Mustang's and Spitfire's.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Feathered_IV
11-09-2006, 06:25 AM
A5m4 definitely http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

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11-09-2006, 07:35 AM
Fokker D.XXI, G-1 or Brewster Buffalo!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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major_setback
11-09-2006, 08:07 AM
My brother knows the main person 'recruiting' the aircraft and pilots for that show.
I spoke to her at last years show, and she said she was disappointed that the surprise aircraft that was lined up for the show couldn't make it. The surprise aircraft was the Zero. I can't remember which mark it was of this type, but there could be more info on it in the brochure (if I remember correctly the Zero is pictured on the front cover of last years exhibition brochure). It might turn up at next years show.

Sorry if I spoil a surprise!


Other than the Zero I would lke to see the Me 262 or a FW 190 if there is an original one flying. I don't know if replica aircraft are allowed to participate, I don't think so though. It would be nice to see aproper Bf 109 and not the Buchon that was at last years (Saturday) show.
There's a big German flying boat (Do 24) somewhere in the world ....
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow04/berlin/ila.htm
.... I wouldn't mind seeing that too.
See more here:

http://www.airventure.de/do24_2004.htm


http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow04/berlin/do24.jpg

http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow04/berlin/do24fly.jpg


http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/photos/gallery_005/Dornier%20Do%2024T%20in%20northern%20Norway%201942 .jpg

http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW3/do24-004.jpg

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OD_79
11-09-2006, 08:10 AM
Definately a Hawker Typhoon.

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Monty_Thrud
11-09-2006, 08:32 AM
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow04/berlin/do24.jpg


EEK!...they're using three Tempests to run that thing, nice aircraft btw, Short Sunderland, mmmm.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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nsteense
11-09-2006, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by major_setback:
My brother knows the main person 'recruiting' the aircraft and pilots for that show.
I spoke to her at last years show, and she said she was disappointed that the surprise aircraft that was lined up for the show couldn't make it. The surprise aircraft was the Zero. I can't remember which mark it was of this type, but there could be more info on it in the brochure (if I remember correctly the Zero is pictured on the front cover of last years exhibition brochure). It might turn up at next years show.

Sorry if I spoil a surprise!


Other than the Zero I would lke to see the Me 262 or a FW 190 if there is an original one flying. I don't know if replica aircraft are allowed to participate, I don't think so though. It would be nice to see aproper Bf 109 and not the Buchon that was at last years (Saturday) show.
There's a big German flying boat (Do 24) somewhere in the world ....
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow04/berlin/ila.htm
.... I wouldn't mind seeing that too.
See more here:

http://www.airventure.de/do24_2004.htm



That probably would have been the Zero A6M5 from the Planes of Fame , Chino California. Not too many flyable Zeros left in the world.
http://www.planesoffame.org/featured-aircraft.php?ID=4
It's not the first time Fighter Legends 'invited' some airplanes from that organization. It surely would have been a real surprise to see it!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Hopefully next year.
Btw, an original FW190 is under restoration in the US. http://www.white1foundation.org/

Also, the ME262 and the FW190 currently flying were all built following the original build plans. Makes you wonder how much of a replica these are (all the same except for the engines). The ME262 even received a new type designation, approved by the Messcherschmitt foundation, Germany, which followed the sequence up untill then built.
See http://www.stormbirds.com/ for more info on that subject

Skarphol
11-13-2006, 02:50 AM
Here is a link to 165 other pictures of the Fw-190. http://www.luftwaffe.no/wreck2/index.htm

Lots of details!

I think the pictures are taken by Olve Dybvig.

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Friendly_flyer
11-13-2006, 03:12 AM
It looks like this plane saw at least one change of numbering:

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mynameisroland
11-13-2006, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by F6_Ace:
There is something strangely appealing about having a Focke Wulf 190 'convertible'

A bit like an XR3i...but without the plasterer at the helm

Ah the XR3i, one of the few 80's cars that could keep an Astramax van in its rearview mirror. Well that is until you'd hit 120 mph then its goodbye mr Mr Ford http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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11-13-2006, 08:37 AM
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11-13-2006, 09:50 AM
DXXI, G1 or bf110 for me!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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