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HelSqnProtos
02-05-2006, 01:33 AM
<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">S~!

Mr. Maddox & Team - As per usual thank you for your excellent work.
My Squadrons' Respects and Compliments sir!


I know what I am about to ask you for will seem shocking to you from a 'Hardcore' VVS Pilot such as myself. What can I say, I have been having a high fever lately. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

<Protos holds his nose and asks> </span>


<span class="ev_code_PINK">Oleg is it possible to get a minimal ordanance loadout for E & F series bfs into the new addon?</span>

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As someone who is very active in both the Competition AND Development of Online Wars - I am forced to request some kind of ordanance load outs for early bfs. Currently early war VVS planes have access to rockets and occasionally bombs (though rather small) for Jabo missions.

Early war bfs unfortunately do not have this Jabo ability. I would really like to be able to offer some balance in our upcoming HELL WAR project and am sure that other projects and just about everyone else would be happy to see a balanced ordanance loadout for the lw in early war maps and scenarios.

I have done the research and can give you the loadouts and I am sure many others will be happy to post here with their own materials. Please gentlemen lets keep the discussion to E & F series bfs.

Oleg I will send my research to CrazyIvan if you should require it.</span>

CUJO_1970
02-05-2006, 01:38 AM
Oleg has had the data for complete and accurate loadout specs for all 109s for years, down to the number of bullets carried.

He already has all the info, be sure.

It's even been listed publically on this forum.

HelSqnProtos
02-05-2006, 12:45 PM
S~!

I am well aware of what goes on in these forums.........

If the lw is happier to get k4c3 that will never see the light of day in an online war (or most df servers for that matter) rather than corrected loadouts for their early birds than I guess you guys deserve what you get.\

Its amazing to see the squawking that gets done for a little 'icing' but the bread and butter gets left behind.

jagdmailer
02-05-2006, 01:01 PM
We take what we can get. Oleg has already said several times on those forums that although he has had the historical loadouts for the Friedrich from Butch2K himself for over 2.5+ years now, he won't implement any as it is too time comsuming. Same goes for the Dora loadouts and Panzerblitz rockets on the F-8/F-9.

This is why we are down to a lot of rather "easy" tweaks such as P-47D "150 octane", Spit 25lbs, Mustang III high-boost, P-38L "Late" and the 1945 Bf 109K-4 high boost being implemented. I seen nothing wrong with it, at least we are getting something new as we were told that the Friedrich & Dora loadouts would not happen.

Why whine??

Jagd


Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:
S~!

I am well aware of what goes on in these forums.........

If the lw is happier to get k4c3 that will never see the light of day in an online war (or most df servers for that matter) rather than corrected loadouts for their early birds than I guess you guys deserve what you get.\

Its amazing to see the squawking that gets done for a little 'icing' but the bread and butter gets left behind.

VW-IceFire
02-05-2006, 01:20 PM
Are you asking for more loadouts on the early Bf109E's or just loadouts? I thought the Bf109E-4/B was a half decent jabo. I was just flying one with a 250kg bomb on it...not bad considering it was meant to be a fighter? Plus the Stuka should be around yes?

biggs222
02-05-2006, 01:30 PM
id personally like to see the mkIXe with a 2 rocket and one center bomb loadout... its historical too but i dont think we'll get that either.

HelSqnProtos
02-05-2006, 01:55 PM
Hit a little too close to home eh Jagdmailer?

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jagdmailer
02-05-2006, 02:28 PM
In what sense?

Jagd


Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:
Hit a little too close to home eh Jagdmailer?

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SeaFireLIV
02-05-2006, 02:40 PM
Funny, it looks like yellow letters should be annoying, but it isn`t.

er, what was the question? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Cossack13
02-05-2006, 09:58 PM
Well I, for one, think it was might damn sporting of Protos to ask for the F series loadouts!

HelSqnProtos
02-06-2006, 04:28 PM
S~! Cossack

Thank you for your kind words.

Squadron Compliments to the 7/JG77

AnaK774
02-06-2006, 05:14 PM
This is really important for all onlinewars, where you should use 109 as fighter bomber.

Putting up Emils with bombs is like bringing lambs for slaughter in some occasions, and putting Gustavs there is like turning table too much in other way on.

Correct or at least limited loadouts would be really welcome in this occasion and giving more options and ease of balance for early war online campaigns.

Dang, agreeing something with protos again... Anyone got a good shrink to suggest? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Vrabac
02-07-2006, 10:43 AM
Dang, agreeing something with protos again... Anyone got a good shrink to suggest? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LOL Disturbing, ain't it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But unfortunately as others said, it won't happen. But hey, there are many '46 wunderwaffen left to exploit! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

HeinzBar
02-07-2006, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:

If the lw is happier to get k4c3 that will never see the light of day in an online war (or most df servers for that matter) rather than corrected loadouts for their early birds than I guess you guys deserve what you get.\

Its amazing to see the squawking that gets done for a little 'icing' but the bread and butter gets left behind.

S!,
From one that flies Axis planes primarily, I could care less about the C3 109K4. So, I'm not happy to have the C3 K4 when LW needs proper loadouts, just like you're calling for. I'm also in more support of properly boosted A4/A5/A6 FWs than the C4. The loadouts and proper boost of 'bread & butter' planes like the A4-A6 and early 109s should be a priority rather than another 'hotrod that barely saw any action'. Besides, I'm not too keen on sweets http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HB

HelSqnProtos
02-07-2006, 12:18 PM
S~!

Yes it seems the DF crowd has the loudest voice. I have spent countless hours arguing about this with the beta test team leader. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Most of the guys who fly online war and know these planes and the sim are not forum posters. So consequently you have the situation we have now where the df crowd screams for latewar hotrods - and gets them. I view these planes like someone giving you cotton candy when your really hungry.

They may taste great in the beginning, but you soon grow bored and your belly is still left rumbling and empty.

Wtornado_439th
02-07-2006, 12:55 PM
Haven't been playing long eh?

DF has always had the strongest voice.

Just look at all the wantabees flying for points on the DF Hyperlobby.

Lots of kids playing for points scores in this game too. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HelSqnProtos
02-07-2006, 06:39 PM
............ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

avimimus
02-08-2006, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:
S~!

I am well aware of what goes on in these forums.........


I don't believe you! A lot of very strange things go on here and if you knew as much as I do -you'd post as little as possible...

He's watching...

RegRag1977
02-08-2006, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by HeinzBar:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HelSqnProtos:

If the lw is happier to get k4c3 that will never see the light of day in an online war (or most df servers for that matter) rather than corrected loadouts for their early birds than I guess you guys deserve what you get.\

Its amazing to see the squawking that gets done for a little 'icing' but the bread and butter gets left behind.

S!,
From one that flies Axis planes primarily, I could care less about the C3 109K4. So, I'm not happy to have the C3 K4 when LW needs proper loadouts, just like you're calling for. I'm also in more support of properly boosted A4/A5/A6 FWs than the C4. The loadouts and proper boost of 'bread & butter' planes like the A4-A6 and early 109s should be a priority rather than another 'hotrod that barely saw any action'. Besides, I'm not too keen on sweets http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HB </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifPlease read Heinz once again! This man is right!
I agree 100%! We don't need such new A/C, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gifOleg, please,just give us the "true" LW BF and FW! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Regards http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif