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Xanatos2007
06-14-2010, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by dalpeva6:
I would like to see the frech revolution as I said before, but whats wrong with china or japan??, I mean, According to the game Qin Shi Huang was in fact killed by an Assassin......

They just like the templars/brotherhood are everywhere
Previous thread here. (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/8251094497) I havn't been keeping up with it so don't ask me for a synopsis.

EDIT: If someone can add a better synopsis than that *points down* it would be appreciated. Just giving brief dot-points on time periods & locales that have been discussed.

lilbacchant
06-14-2010, 01:23 PM
Synopsis: There were brief periods of interesting discussion sprinkled amongst several attempts by arrogant know-it-alls to hijack the thread looking for non-deserved respect and kudos.

If you want to continue the topic and contribute as an interesting sprinkle, more power to you. If you are incapable of discussion, and only capable of repeating your opinion as loudly, misspelled, and frequently as possible, have fun hijacking a now useless thread.

Murcuseo
06-14-2010, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by lilbacchant:

...have fun hijacking a now useless thread.

Is there any useful threads on this forum?

I jokes...

Zulu-Zorro
06-14-2010, 01:43 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/vi.../101249#comments_top (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-assassins-creed/101249#comments_top)

You guys... I think I just ***zed in my pants.

lilbacchant
06-14-2010, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Zulu-Zorro:
http://www.gametrailers.com/vi.../101249#comments_top (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-assassins-creed/101249#comments_top)

You guys... I think I just ***zed in my pants.

Wow!!!!

phil.llllll
06-14-2010, 03:35 PM
From another thread that was closed but relevant for the future games:


Er, they didn't do everything right:

1. The assassinations were too frequent and impersonalized. I like to get stabby as much as anyone, even more so, but I felt my assassinations lacked a real reason. In AC1 you spent a lot of time researching your targets and discovered their true intentions for what they did; it made them seem like actual people. Compare that to AC2 and it's very much like gang warfare: they hand you a gun/blade, point at a bad guy with a big hat and say "kill they a***".

2. When Ubisoft heard that the fans wanted a bit more variety they went a little overboard with the whole thing. The gun, poison blade, coin-throwing and the entire economic system in general were only put in there for giggles. Who really needs to purchase & upgrade 30 different weapons and 4 sets of armour? The most effective tools at your disposal you get for free anyway. You can finish the entire game using nothing but your hidden blades (and your fists if you're feeling giddy) and Altair's armour doesn't cost a penny - neither of which can be disarmed or need repairing, with the hidden blades still killing in one counter-attack. And most of the sidequests seem a little out of context as well; where exactly does a Master Assassin find the time or reason to act as an aggressive marriage counselor or equally aggressive postman? Not to mention the races against old men in dirty beanies. If somebody questioned his speed shouldn't Ezio just punch him into the dirt & move on? He's an badass Italian Assassin, for Christ's sake! Even the assassination contracts felt a bit dull; I never really understood who I was killing or why. Even though it says it in the mission briefing, but I still felt like a hitman rather than an Assassin, with Lorenzo de'Medici playing as the Godfather.

Agreed and agreed! Especially the assassination bit. The san gimignano part was the worst. Barely any context at all and it's over so quick. I felt like I was slaying any other bad guy like I've done a hundred times before to the rooftop guards. And yeah the side missions where mostly pathetic. Ezio as a postman.. I don't know how that got into the game.

With that said, I still thought it was a great game but would like to see a return to AC1 style assassinations in the next game - excluding repetive side missions. They could always a find another way to make the assassinations more interesting without being boring.

darth_krypt
06-15-2010, 05:31 PM
Is the assassin in the far left holding a katana or a really thin-bladed sword. If its a katana then its proven that the assassins have links to Japan.

Xanatos2007
06-21-2010, 12:19 AM
Ancient Egypt seems plausible, if you trace back the path the Apple made to Italy it ends up in Egypt:
* It wound up in Italy from Cyprus.
* It got to Cyprus via Altair.
* Altair retrieved it from the Ark of the Covenant beneath Solomon's Temple.
* Moses used the Apple to part/close the Red Sea after leading the Israelites from Egypt to Canaan - the 'Holy Land'.

It was also while in the desert that the Ark was made to contain the Apple. Why he made the people wonder around in the desert for 40 years? I don't know, he probably had no idea where he was going either and used the Apple to keep the people from revolting, making all sorts of illusions to guide them (cloud by day & fire by night as guides, manna from heaven, water from the rock, etc). You can read the Bible for more clues & decide for yourself.

Back to Egypt, it seems likely that TWCB were heavily involved there somehow. The images Minerva shows Ezio beneath the Vatican resemble reliefs found in many tombs & temples in Egypt, and there has also been speculation that supernatural/extraterrestrial beings (TWCB?) hepled the Egyptians build the pyramids.

I'll probably go into more detail about this later, but right now I'm about to crash.

EmperorxZurg
06-21-2010, 01:14 AM
just subscribing (I will regret this)

bokeef04
06-21-2010, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Ancient Egypt seems plausible, if you trace back the path the Apple made to Italy it ends up in Egypt:
* It wound up in Italy from Cyprus.
* It got to Cyprus via Altair.
* Altair retrieved it from the Ark of the Covenant beneath Solomon's Temple.
* Moses used the Apple to part/close the Red Sea after leading the Israelites from Egypt to Canaan - the 'Holy Land'.

It was also while in the desert that the Ark was made to contain the Apple. Why he made the people wonder around in the desert for 40 years? I don't know, he probably had no idea where he was going either and used the Apple to keep the people from revolting, making all sorts of illusions to guide them (cloud by day & fire by night as guides, manna from heaven, water from the rock, etc). You can read the Bible for more clues & decide for yourself.

Back to Egypt, it seems likely that TWCB were heavily involved there somehow. The images Minerva shows Ezio beneath the Vatican resemble reliefs found in many tombs & temples in Egypt, and there has also been speculation that supernatural/extraterrestrial beings (TWCB?) hepled the Egyptians build the pyramids.

I'll probably go into more detail about this later, but right now I'm about to crash.

i could be mistaken, but didn't moses raise his staff or something like that to part the red sea, or are you suggesting he made people think raising his staff parted the sea when he infact used the apple?

I'm going with that the pyramids were built by the Goa'uld and Minerva is an ancient

Xanatos2007
06-21-2010, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by bokeef04:
i could be mistaken, but didn't moses raise his staff or something like that to part the red sea, or are you suggesting he made people think raising his staff parted the sea when he infact used the apple?
"This 'piece of silver' cast out Adam and Eve, turned staves into snakes, parted and closed the Red Sea, P/Aris used it to start the Trojan war, and with it a poor carpenter turned water into wine."
- Al Mualim, Assassin's Creed 1

thekyle0
06-21-2010, 07:07 AM
Xanatos:
Why he made the people wonder around in the desert for 40 years? I don't know, he probably had no idea where he was going either and used the Apple to keep the people from revolting Could be that it was a good opportunity to test the Apple's abilities and to perfect his technique with it. That's 40 years of people coming up to him and voicing their discontent only for him to take out the Apple and say something to the effect of, "Does this change you mind?"

Xanatos2007
06-22-2010, 12:45 AM
Change? Hehehe...

Why'd the Jews wonder around in the Sainai for 40 years? Somebody dropped a quarter. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

john63
06-22-2010, 01:14 AM
Ancient egypt would be VERY cool, but I'd prefer if the story continued moving forward in time, rather than backward. I liked piecing together the time between Altair and Ezio through the codex pages, the tablets in the Auditore crypt, etc, and I'd like to do that again for a new assassin.

Then again, if we go further back than Altair, we can see how the Templar-Assassin war was fought before the Assassins and Templars officially existed, how those organizations inherited he war, and all that background stuff. Which would also be cool... argh IDK now :P

HypnosThanatos
06-22-2010, 03:24 AM
I have to admit that anchient Egypt would be quite nice backdrop. But as the story has to progress forward in time for Desmond to be able to actually locate the Pieces of Eden(most of the tombs of significanse in Egypt have already been raided or explored) I'd think more something like 18th/19th century England and France as partially suggested by dalpeva6. The industrial and French revolution, stirring in the royal courts of Europe, political stirr due to the the happenings in the American continent. Plus alot of interesting carrecters including the mythical Jack the Ripper-case. I'd say there is alot to plunge into in that period of time.

But still the fact remains that in the third part of the trilogy Desmond should supposedly be playing the main part as he is supposed to be finding the pieces of Eden.

Thoughts?

Stormpen
06-22-2010, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Change? Hehehe...

Why'd the Jews wander around in the Sainai for 40 years? Somebody dropped a quarter. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/traurig/sad-smiley-024.gif <span class="ev_code_white">Don't kill me, please.</span>

kaltivater
06-22-2010, 06:44 PM
I thought that it might be cool if AC3 explored Europe, either during the dark ages, or during World War Two. I could see the Assassin's being behind enemy lines in Berlin as well as occupied Paris, France. Any thoughts?

Fairus60
06-22-2010, 08:00 PM
Nah, WW2 has been overused, I dont think we´ll see that soon, I expect more French Revolution or Victorian England, I definetly dont wish we go to japan, at least not in a major entry to the series, I just dont feel it would be that original, same feeling for egypt

VRTX97
06-22-2010, 08:10 PM
In my opinion, I've been waiting for moreinfo on the story of Desmond, so I'd prefer that AC3 would take place in 2012, with Desmond looking for the other temples.

kaltivater
06-22-2010, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Fairus60:
Nah, WW2 has been overused, I dont think we´ll see that soon, I expect more French Revolution or Victorian England, I definetly dont wish we go to japan, at least not in a major entry to the series, I just dont feel it would be that original, same feeling for egypt

I think it could be done in a way that has not been covered in WWII games. Especially, if you take into consideration the French resistance as well as espionage on both sides. I think an Assassin in Berlin would be fairly intriguing. when you think about how Hitler confiscated so much art and there were the book burnings. Also, a setting like Stalingrad would be interesting. So many of the codex pages reference WWII age photography, I think if someone can pull off WWII in a way we haven't yet viewed it, it would be Ubi >.<

Deathgrim666
06-22-2010, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Pex3650:
In my opinion, I've been waiting for moreinfo on the story of Desmond, so I'd prefer that AC3 would take place in 2012, with Desmond looking for the other temples.

yeah 2012 or japan would be cool. but seeing one in 2012 would be sick.

opisamra
06-23-2010, 05:55 AM
Well, I'm gonna just repeat myself again because I haven't got a life and all I do is troll these forums.... I think that the game should be set in India for the following reasons...

First of all, there is a possibility that one of Altiar or Ezio's descendants could have come to India because India was very open to trade. I'm sure that one of Altair's descendants could have arrived in India during one of the countless invasions from the Middle East. India has also had a very long history of trade with Europe and the middle east so a descendant may have arrived via land or sea disguised as a merchant.

Secondly, the Mughal Empire (the period I reckon the game should be set) was a very intriguing time in India and there was tonnes of corruption and conspiracies. The period would lend itself nicely to the AC type storyline (betrayal and revenge). Oh and India has its fair share of temples and other magnificent structures that could be used as one of the temples that Desmond is seeking.

Thirdly, India's architecture would be ideal for AC style gameplay. The streets are pretty tight and the houses are bunched up close to each other. And again, there are tonnes of monuments that (I'm sure everyone agrees) would be AWESOME to climb.... Taj Mahal anyone???

Fourthly, we've had the Middle East, we've had Europe.... why not have Middle Asia now??

Those are all the reasons I can think of now...

P.S. If it can't be in India, I vote for China or Japan.

Ru1986
06-23-2010, 07:00 AM
WW2 i think is a bad idea. Part of the point of being an assassin is its an acient tradition to kill people silently WW2 kills were not silent as a rule. I also think when they introduce guns into the game i will stop playing. As i have played so many gun/War related games and am sick of then. Crossbows, bows and Arrows that sort of thing, Throwing knives and abbriviated weapons (as in a tiny pistol inside your wrist blade) are as far as i can take it. I think an introduction of Modernish guns would ruin the aspect of the AC gmaes the acientness of the first two games was for me all part of the enjoyment keep the game in history before the introduction of guns.

Otherwise it will just turn into another Call of Duty or Splinter Cell which i am sick of to say the least. Also how many games have done the whole silently killing with guns, loads Splinter Cell just to name one. AC is, at the mo very original, there is nothing else out there like it and i feel to introduce guns and mordernish (am aware that the WW2 weapons were not modern compared to todays weapons but i do think a WW2 scenario would ruin the AC experience for me) weapons would well and truly ruin the orignality of these games. So if we stuck to no history period after 1800 i think that would be good, am aware they had primitive guns back then and also cannons and the like but i think that would be ok its just when you start getting assassins using had grenades and AK-47's i think it would just get silly after that IMO.

I dont personally think location is massively improtant (Italy will take some beating if they do decide to move away from the great nation please dont by the way agin IMO their is not a more entertaining history period) but if it was the UK i think that would be Dull, as extensive as British history is its all very serious and boring unlike the flamboinescy of the Italians.

I really dont think the game should move away from Italy maybe from Ezio and co yes but not from Italy it makes for such pleasent gaming. Nothing in British history compares to Italian its all very dull in comparison the characters are just not as entertaining IMO.

austin128
06-29-2010, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by opisamra:
Well, I'm gonna just repeat myself again because I haven't got a life and all I do is troll these forums.... I think that the game should be set in India for the following reasons...

First of all, there is a possibility that one of Altiar or Ezio's descendants could have come to India because India was very open to trade. I'm sure that one of Altair's descendants could have arrived in India during one of the countless invasions from the Middle East. India has also had a very long history of trade with Europe and the middle east so a descendant may have arrived via land or sea disguised as a merchant.

Secondly, the Mughal Empire (the period I reckon the game should be set) was a very intriguing time in India and there was tonnes of corruption and conspiracies. The period would lend itself nicely to the AC type storyline (betrayal and revenge). Oh and India has its fair share of temples and other magnificent structures that could be used as one of the temples that Desmond is seeking.

Thirdly, India's architecture would be ideal for AC style gameplay. The streets are pretty tight and the houses are bunched up close to each other. And again, there are tonnes of monuments that (I'm sure everyone agrees) would be AWESOME to climb.... Taj Mahal anyone???

Fourthly, we've had the Middle East, we've had Europe.... why not have Middle Asia now??

Those are all the reasons I can think of now...

P.S. If it can't be in India, I vote for China or Japan.
Are you Indian, per chance?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

austin128
06-29-2010, 02:59 AM
Patrice says Japan unlikely, WW2 meh. (http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/8444/no-wwii-for-assassins-creed)

Ru1986
06-29-2010, 03:18 AM
Thank god WW2 is out i would not have been happy woith that stear clear of periods with guns involved i think that will ruin a massive aspect of the game.

And by guns i mean silly ott guns, ther was nothing wrong with the cheeky pistola.

lilbacchant
06-29-2010, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Ru1986:
Thank god WW2 is out i would not have been happy woith that stear clear of periods with guns involved i think that will ruin a massive aspect of the game.

And by guns i mean silly ott guns, ther was nothing wrong with the cheeky pistola.

You mean, other than it being cheeky, of course. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

opisamra
06-30-2010, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by opisamra:
Well, I'm gonna just repeat myself again because I haven't got a life and all I do is troll these forums.... I think that the game should be set in India for the following reasons...

First of all, there is a possibility that one of Altiar or Ezio's descendants could have come to India because India was very open to trade. I'm sure that one of Altair's descendants could have arrived in India during one of the countless invasions from the Middle East. India has also had a very long history of trade with Europe and the middle east so a descendant may have arrived via land or sea disguised as a merchant.

Secondly, the Mughal Empire (the period I reckon the game should be set) was a very intriguing time in India and there was tonnes of corruption and conspiracies. The period would lend itself nicely to the AC type storyline (betrayal and revenge). Oh and India has its fair share of temples and other magnificent structures that could be used as one of the temples that Desmond is seeking.

Thirdly, India's architecture would be ideal for AC style gameplay. The streets are pretty tight and the houses are bunched up close to each other. And again, there are tonnes of monuments that (I'm sure everyone agrees) would be AWESOME to climb.... Taj Mahal anyone???

Fourthly, we've had the Middle East, we've had Europe.... why not have Middle Asia now??

Those are all the reasons I can think of now...

P.S. If it can't be in India, I vote for China or Japan.
Are you Indian, per chance?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif HOW DID YOU KNOW!!! ahahahahahaha!! Well yeah obviously but I was born and raised in Australia. I'd ask for the game to be set down here but that would be horrible. So I'm going to keep repeating myself until they give me India...... or they announce where AC3 is going to be set. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Ru1986
06-30-2010, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by lilbacchant:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ru1986:
Thank god WW2 is out i would not have been happy woith that stear clear of periods with guns involved i think that will ruin a massive aspect of the game.

And by guns i mean silly ott guns, ther was nothing wrong with the cheeky pistola.

You mean, other than it being cheeky, of course. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL it was a fatastic addition to the game and i was very happy with it. Maybe if you had got it earlier to gain more benefits from it. But then if you have the DLC there plenty of oportunity to use it isn't there.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
06-30-2010, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by kaltivater:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fairus60:
Nah, WW2 has been overused, I dont think we´ll see that soon, I expect more French Revolution or Victorian England, I definetly dont wish we go to japan, at least not in a major entry to the series, I just dont feel it would be that original, same feeling for egypt

I think it could be done in a way that has not been covered in WWII games. Especially, if you take into consideration the French resistance as well as espionage on both sides. I think an Assassin in Berlin would be fairly intriguing. when you think about how Hitler confiscated so much art and there were the book burnings. Also, a setting like Stalingrad would be interesting. So many of the codex pages reference WWII age photography, I think if someone can pull off WWII in a way we haven't yet viewed it, it would be Ubi >.< </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

will likey not happen

"I don't see why we would do a World War II setting. We could do it, it would be fine. Like, let's go assassinate Hitler. But really? I know everyone's asking for a Japanese 'Assassin's Creed,' but I've been talking to some Japanese people and they're like, 'Don't do it. We do our own historical thing.' I've been fighting a lot saying it's not going to be a ninja, but then I'm like, why not? But I ask myself, how many games can we make in World War II? That's maybe the only [setting] I'd say is not interesting to me."

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com...-war-2-anytime-soon/ (http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2010/06/22/assassins-creed-brotherhood-ends-with-another-wtf-ending-wont-go-world-war-2-anytime-soon/)

UBOSOFT-Gamer
06-30-2010, 11:34 PM
I hope they won't do a Ninjas Creed...no feudal Japan. Everyone is asking for Japan? Well, me not!

EmperorxZurg
07-01-2010, 12:26 AM
Patrice himself said they aren't. Even the Japanese people he talked to said not to lol

MarSol_18
07-03-2010, 07:35 AM
The storyline is very captivating...the main reason why it was set in the Renaissance was because northern Italy controlled economic world trade at the time therefore activity was greatest over there...the Netherlands was next (chronologically) after Italy so it would be a good idea to set it there plus its very original and steers away from stereotypes and provides a lot of space for innovation...then it would definitely be England; Victorian Era is original but then again you have the implementation of modern weapons such as the revolver (which doesn't seem to go well with most of the fans) also to back up the Indian argument the English colonial era in India is an interesting backdrop...as for Japan and China; these seem to be the most interesting i think as long as the team remains innovative and doesn't stick to just the stereotypical ninja.

MarSol_18
07-03-2010, 07:46 AM
Sorry I forgot to mention The French Revolution...a time that influenced modern day ideologies of liberalism which can backup the plot of the Templars 'enslaving' man by opposing it. Plus 18th century France was the cultural centre of Europe with great influence in the Americas. The only disadvantage with these eras is that gunpowder gameplay can make the game very cumbersome because of the act of reloading. However With the dawn of firearms, assassinations would get more refined; one wouldn't be able to just run in and kill all the guards with swords as seen in previous ACs because even the least trained guard with a firearm in hand would be able to kill the most skilled assassin like Altair or Ezio.

Angelus2772010
07-03-2010, 11:04 AM
People......about assassins creed 3. Wouldn't it be nice if it was in Japan. We all know about samurais and ninja right? Just imagine
samurais can be the tamplers )))
ninja can be the assaassins)))
Samurais were served to their master but ninja served nobody.
However I think it'll be interesting.

Fairus60
07-03-2010, 11:06 AM
I imagine 2012 something like a cyberpunk society, like deus ex, but with far less mechanichal ambientation and less futuristic. For the time periods, Im glad Japan aint showing up. Its been over used in gaming. I personally wish to see an Aztec Assassin. But that´s just my patriotic me XD. But talking seriously, I mainly wish AC3 to remain in Europe.

montagemik
07-03-2010, 12:06 PM
Asked to move this here by Blackwidow.

As a different approach , How about England & somehow have Des meet 'Mr Newton' the Genius scientist with a thing for Apples & connections with free masons.(it's the right time period)

Personally with the new weapons,characters & techniques introduced in AC2 & upcoming AC Brotherhood, I really do see a far east influence coming in the 'real' 3rd game.
The historical westernisation of Imperial Japan maybe ? This Was an historical event that changed the world at the time, as AC series now has medicines guns,grenades, fans,bows/crossbows, poisons,poison darts,claws,spears,gliders, body search& hide,smoke bombs,causing distractions,armour & disguises.
If we had a grappling hook we'd almost have every feature from the old TENCHU series.

In AC3 The templar brotherhood will likely begin to infiltrate the Assassins guild & hunt them down worldwide.
(Many believe the templars historically infiltrated the masons )
I still say the mountain in AC2 'the Truth' video is Mt FUJI (sacred place)& adam & eve look oriental to me.

Far east /Japan must play some role in the whole AC story.
A game involving a history of Assassin's but no oriental influence seems just wrong.
Japan would also have lots of myth,legends & political factions to work around & again in fitting with current game timelines, phasing out of samurai & ninja in japan could = Templars hunting the assassin's guild.
I'm not saying make him a full Ninja but perhaps Desmond's ancestor has to go to japan & collect vital info/P.O.E as Templars close in on Assassin's worldwide.
Could at least allow for a japanese influence in combat & weapon techniques -AC trilogy story Ending in modern day 2012 Tokyo with Desmond overting the disaster but not the threat.

This leaves Desmond & co then using the Abstergo tech to train a new generation of Assassin's - Roll on AC4 ,AC5,& AC6 following a new trainee & his ancestors tracking other pieces of eden & info needed to eliminate the threat to the world for good.
(popular or not Japan is a possibility & missed opportunity if not used.)

If AC3 is french revolution i'll sadly but definately pass.

You don't believe it really ends with AC3 do you ?
I think perhaps the modern world isn't in good shape -
we haven't seen much of the outside world, but maybe only the rich/powerful live in clean cities with the rest a little 'mad max' chaos.



AC3: Assassin's Free - AC4: Assassin's Force

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-04-2010, 03:40 AM
i think in ac3 desmond should visits differtne locations in different times of history.

Just some unsorted ideas.

As with SouthAmerica an ancestor of desmond could reach SA within the conquista.

Or a connection with fareast, could be set in ancient rome with the Silk Road.

Or Marco Polo, (altough is highly doubfull he visit all the places he named)

A good time may be the third reich. Yeah, i know, no ww2 and no Hitlerassination (altough Hitler was 42 times to be assinated, within 20 july 44 the most famous plot), but that doesn't mean it need to assainate hitler. it somebody else who we dont know. and it doesnt need to play in nazi occupied europe during ww2. It can playe before the war. And the third reich last only 12 years so a small period of time to snap in. No, no, dont let play the full game in those 12 years, but maybe a part of it?

Why? Because the Nazis, were occult and esoteric. Some examples.

The NS-Headquarter of the occult - The Wewelsburg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W...n_of_the_North_Tower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wewelsburg#Description_of_the_North_Tower)

The Nazis did an expedition to Tibet. For the game they could search for more pieces of eden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1..._Expedition_to_Tibet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938-1939_German_Expedition_to_Tibet)

They did an expedition to the Antartica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Swabia

Rubbish, secret nazi ufo base
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_UFOs

German U-Boats didn't only attacked Allied ships, they also transported agents, saboteurs, etc. Could also be used for a fictional thing for AC3
http://www.amazon.de/Deutsche-...22443/ref=pd_sim_b_2 (http://www.amazon.de/Deutsche-U-Boote-feindlichen-K%C3%BCsten-Kommandounternehmen/dp/3613022443/ref=pd_sim_b_2)

Or take the secret german airforce unit KG200
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K...0_in_the_Middle_East (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KG_200#KG200_in_the_Middle_East)

Or Brandenburger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...arbarossa_-_Ostfront (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburger_Regiment#Operation_Barbarossa_-_Ostfront)

Or a piece of enden could be located in an unknown nazibunker somewehre in Europe.
http://www.reformnetz.de/vortrag/jonastal.htm

Or underground Berlin
http://berliner-unterwelten.de/home.1.1.html

Or may the red army took the piece of eden and brought it to Moscow.
Or an American soldier found it in a german town and send it to USA.

There could be so many things to be used for the AC universe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://einestages.spiegel.de/e...F.html#featuredEntry (http://einestages.spiegel.de/external/ShowTopicAlbumBackground/a5903/l0/l0/F.html#featuredEntry)

The only thing what may cause a bit trouble is the use of nazimyth and (neo)-nazisymbols for the story of a game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_occultism#Games

El_Sjietah
07-04-2010, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:


The only thing what may cause a bit trouble is the use of nazimyth and (neo)-nazisymbols for the story of a game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_occultism#Games

Bah, people need to get over those gripes already. Yes, what the nazis did was terrible and yes, we should do whatever we can to prevent it from happening again, but banning symbols (symbols that were around way before the 3rd Reich, mind you) is just silly beans. Symbols themselves are meaningless, it's human psyche that attaches meaning to them.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-04-2010, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by El_Sjietah:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:


The only thing what may cause a bit trouble is the use of nazimyth and (neo)-nazisymbols for the story of a game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_occultism#Games

Bah, people need to get over those gripes already. Yes, what the nazis did was terrible and yes, we should do whatever we can to prevent it from happening again, but banning symbols (symbols that were around way before the 3rd Reich, mind you) is just silly beans. Symbols themselves are meaningless, it's human psyche that attaches meaning to them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, fact is, it is banned and illegal e.g. in germany. The maker of Return to Castle Wolfenstein had to rewrite the story for the german version, because of that. Yes, they had to make a new story for the german version. It didn't last just to remvoe the Swastika and SS_Symbols, like in other games, no they had to make a new story, the producer of the game said.

When ID software puplished DOOM 1 in 1993, they did a one standard version for all countries - one level had the shape of a swastika. ID-software had to remove the game in the stores immediatly. After some weeks tehy brought in the german stores the censored version.

*Edit* And as i am think about that, it would suck to use the third reich. I want an uncensored AC3, which will not happen, if they would use thrid reich.

didnt think about that, damn, UBI forgot ww2, third reich!

Vey03
07-04-2010, 05:25 AM
I doubt the game will be anywhere near anything Nazi. It's too touchy a subject, and Ubi wouldn't go there. Rightly so, i think. Too hard to control, too involved.

amugae
07-04-2010, 10:34 PM
All I know is that if they set AC3 in a 20-21st century setting, they're gonna have to include a mandatory Solid Snake outfit and rename the game "Metal Gear Creed" :P

Account_Deleted
07-06-2010, 06:27 AM
just wondering,
what are the chances that
Desmond is a portal to the Altair and Ezio?
Like someone from Desmond's decendent ( son / daughter/ grand sun/daughter etc )

using An animus going through Desmond's mind as a memory and Desmond acessing Altair and Ezio?

* if any of my jibberish makes sense?*

mikeh1294
07-06-2010, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Account_Deleted:
just wondering,
what are the chances that
Desmond is a portal to the Altair and Ezio?
Like someone from Desmond's decendent ( son / daughter/ grand sun/daughter etc )

using An animus going through Desmond's mind as a memory and Desmond acessing Altair and Ezio?

* if any of my jibberish makes sense?*

I get you, someone in the future is using and Animus to make Desmond use an Animus.

Hmm.... That would be interesting.

El_Sjietah
07-06-2010, 07:14 AM
That would be lame imo. And completely redundant.

Account_Deleted
07-06-2010, 09:00 AM
i've been thinking
is there a theory that malik ancestor is shaun hastings?

El_Sjietah
07-06-2010, 09:33 AM
Shaun Hastings was born outside the assassin order, so I doubt it. But who knows, stranger things have happened.

Afonsocool
07-06-2010, 10:45 AM
I think the best place for AC 3 would be portugal in the 16th century...

I won't say why cause if any of you know how life was at that time you will see it is the perfect spot for an assassin

DavisP92
07-06-2010, 05:31 PM
AC3 should have its own seperate coop story from the single-player one they are working on right now. Since Ubisoft already has an assassin which means they probably already know where they are going. But for idea purposes, lets say Ubisoft choose Japan for the single-player. The coop story to AC3 should be in Egypt and the story should be; you and your friend play as two brother assassins that use the animus to relive the lives of their ancestors who are brothers as well.. or they coop could be in japan and the single-player could be in Egypt. Ubisoft has writers so they can figure out what to do next. but for gameplay purposes the coop should have a unique gameplay only for coop. like you throw ur friend up on a building so he can get to the top faster and u travel a different path. or lets say Ubisoft gives the guards the abillity to hit ur weapon out of ur hand. then ur teammate can throw u his sword and u can use that to kill the guard.... (I'm full of ideas http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

nukelukespuke34
07-06-2010, 10:50 PM
(long read)

I'm personally a big fan of feudal Japan. We've had the Middle East, we've had Europe, to have it in a western setting again (French Revolution, Victorian England, Colonial America etc.) would be lame. So I think the best choice would be to go East.

I also have a way to integrate ninjas and assassin's without making either group part of the other. Here's how it would go:

Historical ninjas, as some of you may know, were not black-clad assassins you see in movies. They wore regular civilian clothes and used poison, ropes, darts, and knives to kill their marks. Female ninjas seduced their targets. Historical ninjas were more like feudal James Bonds rather than Sam Fishers.

The black outfit came from Japanese theater. In between acts, stage hands dressed in skintight black clothes complete with masks would go onstage and move props around. Because they blended in with the black background, the audience was supposed to pretend they weren't there.

Now here's where Assassins and ninjas converge. They are two different groups, completely mutually exclusive. The ninjas killed whoever they were hired to kill, while Assassins hunted down Templars.

Lets say some time in the 1800s, the Assassins tracked down a high ranking Japanese official who was secretly a Templar. It was imperative that he be eliminated immediately (He was close to a POE, he had information that could expose the Assassins, whatever you want the story to be). The Assassins had intel that he would be attending a Kabuki performance. It would be tightly guarded, and no one with high enough clearance would be admitted. So to infiltrate it, they knock out a couple stage hands and put on their costumes. They go and do their thing in the performance, already memorizing their jobs in the play (they had this all planned out). During an intermission, they have a chance to strike the killing blow on the official. But something goes horribly wrong. He manages to escape and runs out of the theater. Since he's such a high-value target, the Assassins have no choice but to go after him. So they take off, freerunning, jumping over the rooftops of the city, a group of black-clad killers, almost invisible against the night sky, hot on the tail of guy running for his life. Eventually they kill him (or don't, it doesn't really matter now) but history has already charted its course. The spectacle of a bunch of agile assassins in black running over the city rooftops hadn't gone unnoticed by civilians. But they didn't know what actual ninjas looked like. As far as they knew, they killed from the shadows, and once they were done, they melted back into the night. So when they see a bunch of guys in black giving chase from above, vaulting over walls and leaping between buildings with an almost balletic grace, civilians along the ground stared up at them in awe. They pointed up and whispered, "Ninjas." And so the legend was born.

What do you all think? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DavisP92
07-06-2010, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by nukelukespuke34:
(long read)

I'm personally a big fan of feudal Japan. We've had the Middle East, we've had Europe, to have it in a western setting again (French Revolution, Victorian England, Colonial America etc.) would be lame. So I think the best choice would be to go East.

I also have a way to integrate ninjas and assassin's without making either group part of the other. Here's how it would go:

Historical ninjas, as some of you may know, were not black-clad assassins you see in movies. They wore regular civilian clothes and used poison, ropes, darts, and knives to kill their marks. Female ninjas seduced their targets. Historical ninjas were more like feudal James Bonds rather than Sam Fishers.

The black outfit came from Japanese theater. In between acts, stage hands dressed in skintight black clothes complete with masks would go onstage and move props around. Because they blended in with the black background, the audience was supposed to pretend they weren't there.

Now here's where Assassins and ninjas converge. They are two different groups, completely mutually exclusive. The ninjas killed whoever they were hired to kill, while Assassins hunted down Templars.

Lets say some time in the 1800s, the Assassins tracked down a high ranking Japanese official who was secretly a Templar. It was imperative that he be eliminated immediately (He was close to a POE, he had information that could expose the Assassins, whatever you want the story to be). The Assassins had intel that he would be attending a Kabuki performance. It would be tightly guarded, and no one with high enough clearance would be admitted. So to infiltrate it, they knock out a couple stage hands and put on their costumes. They go and do their thing in the performance, already memorizing their jobs in the play (they had this all planned out). During an intermission, they have a chance to strike the killing blow on the official. But something goes horribly wrong. He manages to escape and runs out of the theater. Since he's such a high-value target, the Assassins have no choice but to go after him. So they take off, freerunning, jumping over the rooftops of the city, a group of black-clad killers, almost invisible against the night sky, hot on the tail of guy running for his life. Eventually they kill him (or don't, it doesn't really matter now) but history has already charted its course. The spectacle of a bunch of agile assassins in black running over the city rooftops hadn't gone unnoticed by civilians. But they didn't know what actual ninjas looked like. As far as they knew, they killed from the shadows, and once they were done, they melted back into the night. So when they see a bunch of guys in black giving chase from above, vaulting over walls and leaping between buildings with an almost balletic grace, civilians along the ground stared up at them in awe. They pointed up and whispered, "Ninjas." And so the legend was born.

What do you all think? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I can tell you put a lot of thought into that. and it was good, the only problem is that Ubisoft said that idea of using Japan for AC3 is very unlikely. And yea we have gone to the middle east and Europe, but then there is still egypt. AC2 even had some egyptian artifacts in the hidden templar locations so that might me a hint to Egypt. But personally i don't care where they go, as long as its a cool place and the assassin has a cool outfit, and it has to be coop. *praying they use my idea (or something along the line)*

plug-inalex
07-07-2010, 02:48 AM
I mean a lot of us assassin creed fans are trying to guess what the next era will be for Desmond, but you hear at the game, "many temples built by your ancestors to save our great work" or something along those lines. Maybe it won't just be one era but different eras in the same game that allows different temples to be found. Eh? EHH!? It's just a possibility. But in my opinion feudal Japan... even though it's not techinically possible as a descendant (moving from Italy to Japan in 200 years) but althouh there are many ninja games, an open world hasn't actually been explored in Japan. So that's two cool... interesting subjects... so... yanno. (y) (I origanally posted a topic, but I couldn't be bothered to change it, scuse for the cheesiness)

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-07-2010, 03:01 AM
Well, for the glyphes, if they do something in AC3 OR for the backgroundinfo of the Templar H., UBI could use some aspects of the nazis, i mentioned in a previous post. not for the storygame itself, but for the info. we know that he was assasinated by unknown person, as we could read in a glyphe. UBI could use some histoirc elements. There is so much mystic/esoteric bull**** http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif You could invent nearly everything crazy, as you could believe it's real historic, since the nazis were crazy idots.

Just an another random example

The So-Called Schwedenkiste (“Swedish Box”), the Most Significant Illuminati Archive.
http://www.bavarian-illuminati.info/?p=332

Or some conspiracy/connection with a german spy for the allies
http://einestages.spiegel.de/e...F.html#featuredEntry (http://einestages.spiegel.de/external/ShowTopicAlbumBackground/a5042/l0/l0/F.html#featuredEntry)

http://einestages.spiegel.de/s...errat_als_waffe.html (http://einestages.spiegel.de/static/topicalbumbackground/1377/verrat_als_waffe.html)


Btw imo its wonderfull what they did in AC2. Learned something new http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif About some important paintings and i didn't know that Edison electrocuted an elephant http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thank you for that UBISOFThttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

plug-inalex
07-07-2010, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
Well, for the glyphes, if they do something in AC3 OR for the backgroundinfo of the Templar H., UBI could use some aspects of the nazis, i mentioned in a previous post. not for the storygame itself, but for the info. we know that he was assasinated by unknown person, as we could read in a glyphe.




Yeah, i mean and finding all the glyphs, like finding all the codex in the last one allows you to find maybe a secret layer of templars or even bring to conclusion a hint for the 3rd assassin creed if it was put into brotherhood

mrfishy101
07-07-2010, 02:31 PM
ok, so some people still want the memories to be moving forward in time, and i think it should be in the days of privateers, spanish conquistadors (templars), jungles, forts, governors, english, french, dutch and whatever else you can name. does no one understand these possibilities? everyone wants feudal japan and ninjas, but doesn't anyone prefer this idea? hire privateers for their ships as fast travel, and later on as mercenaries. scale the walls of a fort, kill the sentries, then a governor or other official inside. raid docked treasure ships in your free time. work your way through incan or aztec temples to reach assasin artifacts inside, don't ask me how they got in there, that's ubi's job http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif. instead of just doing assasination contracts for lorenzo medici, choose to ally with one of the european powers from england or france to germany or portugal.

ps. please don't ridicule me for historical inaccuracy, im no history major. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-08-2010, 04:31 AM
it doesnt matter, aslong as it's cool and varies like AC2 and as longs it doesnt play in Japan or American Revolution. I hope for Europe again or at alst a part of the game. I wouldnt mind visit different locations in different time of history. But i hope they dont do Japan, Americsn Rev. or modern times only.

landseadel
07-08-2010, 01:37 PM
I haven't really seen this suggestion yet on this forum - but I think the best next time period for the AC storyline would be the American Revolutionary War. I don't know if any of you follow Ctrl-Alt-Del, but here's his take on it - http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20100329/ . There are tons of storylines available. There are a lot of historical theories/stories involving templars and early America that could be tied into with AC.

TheEpicWolf
07-09-2010, 03:51 PM
No AC3 for 2011. (http://www.industrygamers.com/news/assassins-creed-taking-a-break-in-2011/) I don't think anyone really expected it to be out so anyway but i just thought i should post this although i wasn't sure if it needed another thread and so added it here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
What do you guys think about the wait? Do you think it's a good idea to have a longer period of time between Brotherhood and AC3?
Personally i do feel that it's a good idea and seeing as Brotherhood was practically announced not so long after AC2(at least it didn't seem that long http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif)it seems like a good idea to slow the franchise to a less hyper active release speed. And also people new to the AC series will have time to play through AC to Brotherhood before the 3rd.

Wow never ranted so much xD Sorry peeps :P

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-10-2010, 04:35 AM
The setting for the next game has been decided on, though Boivin wouldn't be pushed into giving any further details. "We know exactly where we're going," he said. "It would lack vision and blunt intelligence to wing it episode after episode. We have to have some vision with the story. We very much do; we know all that stuff."

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1104687p1.html

allright, i am curious which time period and which country they will use http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif or which time periodS and countrieS they will may use http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

hopefully NOT japan/asia/american revolution.

Fairus60
07-10-2010, 10:21 AM
So... the decision has been taken. After Brotherhood releases, some teases will start showing up, if not that the teases appear in Brotherhood itself. I really hope not for Japan. I wish to stay in Europe, England or Spain would be fine for me. Or ancient Germany, some Viking Assassins might be fun XD.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-10-2010, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Fairus60:
So... the decision has been taken. After Brotherhood releases, some teases will start showing up, if not that the teases appear in Brotherhood itself. I really hope not for Japan. I wish to stay in Europe, England or Spain would be fine for me. Or ancient Germany, some Viking Assassins might be fun XD.

and how does it should be like? and btw it is not ancient germany then, it is ancient denmark, ancient norway or ancient sweden.

and i highly doubt ac3 will be set as an viking assassin.


btw made this today, random but a bit interessting haha http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/8639/codexmap.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8476/1215211ac2codexmapjpgsu.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8949/zwcodexeagle.png

Fairus60
07-10-2010, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fairus60:
So... the decision has been taken. After Brotherhood releases, some teases will start showing up, if not that the teases appear in Brotherhood itself. I really hope not for Japan. I wish to stay in Europe, England or Spain would be fine for me. Or ancient Germany, some Viking Assassins might be fun XD.

and how does it should be like? and btw it is not ancient germany then, it is ancient denmark, ancient norway or ancient sweden.

and i highly doubt ac3 will be set as an viking assassin. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I doubt it too, just thought itd be fun. And excuse me for my historical inacuracies, I dont know much about that period

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-10-2010, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Fairus60:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fairus60:
So... the decision has been taken. After Brotherhood releases, some teases will start showing up, if not that the teases appear in Brotherhood itself. I really hope not for Japan. I wish to stay in Europe, England or Spain would be fine for me. Or ancient Germany, some Viking Assassins might be fun XD.

and how does it should be like? and btw it is not ancient germany then, it is ancient denmark, ancient norway or ancient sweden.

and i highly doubt ac3 will be set as an viking assassin. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I doubt it too, just thought itd be fun. And excuse me for my historical inacuracies, I dont know much about that period </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah, it could be fun, you are right.
and no problem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

but i hope it wont be japan.

Bullet747
07-11-2010, 05:46 AM
I think it would be cool if it took place in multiple timelines with different ancestors of Desmond and in different area's around the world. Egypt, Japan(Kyoto or Tokyo), New York, London etc. Maby an ancestor would run into Jack the Ripper in London. Oh the possibilities

They would also have different skill sets based on their situation

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-11-2010, 12:31 PM
hopefully not japan. only a few asking for japan.

lilbacchant
07-11-2010, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Bullet747:
I think it would be cool if it took place in multiple timelines with different ancestors of Desmond and in different area's around the world. Egypt, Japan(Kyoto or Tokyo), New York, London etc. Maby an ancestor would run into Jack the Ripper in London. Oh the possibilities

They would also have different skill sets based on their situation

You need to check your keyboard. I think it has too much ink in it.

DavisP92
07-11-2010, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Bullet747:
I think it would be cool if it took place in multiple timelines with different ancestors of Desmond and in different area's around the world. Egypt, Japan(Kyoto or Tokyo), New York, London etc. Maby an ancestor would run into Jack the Ripper in London. Oh the possibilities

They would also have different skill sets based on their situation

Thats too much. I highly doubt they would do that. But having the game take place in two locations would be great. Lets say Desmond goes to Egypt in the Animus. and Ubisoft makes a coop story to the game where u play as two brother assassins that go into the animus together and relive the lives of their brother ancestors in Japan or anywhere really.. Ubisoft can go anywhere they want, i just hope they don't make it into a shooter game. And they need to make the game more stealthy. How do i fail a don't be detected mission when the guy i killed didn't even scream or pull out his weapon?

the_real_n00b
07-11-2010, 01:49 PM
I'm pretty sure AC3 will continue the story based on THE TRUTH in AC2 because, as in AC1, they left something in the end continue in the next one. Remember those gliphs in the end of the first game? You had to look for them in the AC2 which led to THE TRUTH. If in the video you get in the end, the place you see is actually Japan, the next one will probably have something aside like looking for the gliphs (only related to the THE TRUTH) or the story will be in the future, which I really doubt it's gonna happen. But that's just my opinion, right?

lilbacchant
07-11-2010, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by the_real_n00b:
I'm pretty sure AC3 will continue the story based on THE TRUTH in AC2 because, as in AC1, they left something in the end continue in the next one. Remember those gliphs in the end of the first game? You had to look for them in the AC2 which led to THE TRUTH. If in the video you get in the end, the place you see is actually Japan, the next one will probably have something aside like looking for the gliphs (only related to the THE TRUTH) or the story will be in the future, which I really doubt it's gonna happen. But that's just my opinion, right?

Well, technically, if they release AC:3 in 2012, Desmond's story will be taking place in the present -- or very recent past. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

the_real_n00b
07-11-2010, 02:18 PM
I also said there could be something aside related to THE TRUTH. It'll probably be something to serch for or some side missions.

the_real_n00b
07-11-2010, 02:37 PM
If the game is only released on 2012 I hope it comes out before the end of the world. We better make a petition to UBISOFT asking for them hurry up because I want to play the game really hard. Just kidding. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

the_real_n00b
07-11-2010, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fairus60:
So... the decision has been taken. After Brotherhood releases, some teases will start showing up, if not that the teases appear in Brotherhood itself. I really hope not for Japan. I wish to stay in Europe, England or Spain would be fine for me. Or ancient Germany, some Viking Assassins might be fun XD.

and how does it should be like? and btw it is not ancient germany then, it is ancient denmark, ancient norway or ancient sweden.

and i highly doubt ac3 will be set as an viking assassin.


btw made this today, random but a bit interessting haha http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/8639/codexmap.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8476/1215211ac2codexmapjpgsu.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8949/zwcodexeagle.png </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
According to those maps, if it makes a patern, then the place might be Africa - when it comes to a patern it's usually either the center or all of the sites and I don't think they'll go thru the trouble of building scenaries for 7 different countries plus the environment for the missions with Desmond himself. But I don't think the map has anything to do with the place where AC3's story is gonna run. The map was probably just to make people look for Codex making the game longer.

Dankl__
07-11-2010, 07:12 PM
I would like to see AC3 set in Mexico during the Aztec Empire's reign. Cortes would be the big bad Templar and Ezio's grandson (or whatever) would sail with him, unknowingly of his title ofcourse.

Then the main character would realize Cortes' plans and side with the Mexica to stop him from acquiring a new piece of eden. And by doing so the main character also discovers a line of assassins that existed in this region. They teach him about their culture and possibly reveal something about the first beings/alien/gods/people/things

austin128
07-11-2010, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Bullet747:
I think it would be cool if it took place in multiple timelines with different ancestors of Desmond and in different area's around the world. Egypt, Japan(Kyoto or Tokyo), New York, London etc. Maby an ancestor would run into Jack the Ripper in London. Oh the possibilities

They would also have different skill sets based on their situation
I don't care how many locations there are as long as there is one large main one.

Lubaale
07-12-2010, 01:19 PM
I think the next country will be similar to both 13th century Middle east and 15th Italy. Both of em' were the center for culture and turmoil which means the next destination should be the same. What is more suitable than the later half of 18th century in France.

The country is the center of the world at the time. The country has been under the Kings influence for a long time(piece of Eden)but the hero sets the people free and thus starts the French revolution ending with the hero leaving France and emigrating to the Americas.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-12-2010, 04:12 PM
thank you guys and girls i love you all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and yeah lets see where ac will take place, bu ti think it will be the end of the ac universe!

austin128
07-12-2010, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:and yeah lets see where ac will take place, bu ti think it will be the end of the ac universe!
Do you mean the last game?! If that's what you're sayin' I'd have to disagree. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-13-2010, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:and yeah lets see where ac will take place, bu ti think it will be the end of the ac universe!
Do you mean the last game?! If that's what you're sayin' I'd have to disagree. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i could be wrong, but i think AC3 wil be the end.

albertwesker22
07-13-2010, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Lubaale:
I think the next country will be similar to both 13th century Middle east and 15th Italy. Both of em' were the center for culture and turmoil which means the next destination should be the same. What is more suitable than the later half of 18th century in France.

The country is the center of the world at the time. The country has been under the Kings influence for a long time(piece of Eden)but the hero sets the people free and thus starts the French revolution ending with the hero leaving France and emigrating to the Americas.

I agree with this...but London should be one of the cities in the game. With the tense relations between the Countries at the time, it would be good to see the contrasting environments and playing both sides of the struggle.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-13-2010, 12:41 PM
i just tought, that desmond need to search in museums or libaries around the world of a mssing eden or a document how to use it?

El_Sjietah
07-13-2010, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
i just tought, that desmond need to search in museums or libaries around the world of a mssing eden or a document how to use it?

That wouldn't make for the most entertaining gameplay though.

"Ezio is reading a book. Press [empty hand] to turn to the next page" x 500

"Ezio has finished reading this book, continue to the next one?
[legs]Accept [empty hand]Cancel"

lilbacchant
07-13-2010, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by El_Sjietah:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
i just tought, that desmond need to search in museums or libaries around the world of a mssing eden or a document how to use it?

That wouldn't make for the most entertaining gameplay though.

"Ezio is reading a book. Press [empty hand] to turn to the next page" x 500

"Ezio has finished reading this book, continue to the next one?
[legs]Accept [empty hand]Cancel" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't forget:
Use Eagle Vision [head] to read between the lines.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-13-2010, 01:22 PM
you shouldnt read all books of course or not even in one. it was more like there is a document or a lost book, or legends say those who came before wrote a message and it somewhere or...nvm. stupid idea. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

El_Sjietah
07-13-2010, 01:26 PM
That's better, but it shouldn't be found in something as dull as a library http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-13-2010, 03:12 PM
mmm okay, i understand you, i know what you mean. but for somebody who liked to read and enjoy books it isnt dull :P but obviously the gamer wanna play and not go into virtuall libary...it was just my idea because there are so many libaries around the world with lots of old paper works. same with art museum, but paintings and artefact http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

but i am curious. how and if they can manage to make ace3 better than ac2. imo hard to do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Account_Deleted
07-13-2010, 03:25 PM
maybe actuall beat up this time?
like a interigation meter

to high templer gives up
to low templer does't tell?

and for some reason i don't like the sound of eygpt , seems to... eh

austin128
07-13-2010, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lubaale:
I think the next country will be similar to both 13th century Middle east and 15th Italy. Both of em' were the center for culture and turmoil which means the next destination should be the same. What is more suitable than the later half of 18th century in France.

The country is the center of the world at the time. The country has been under the Kings influence for a long time(piece of Eden)but the hero sets the people free and thus starts the French revolution ending with the hero leaving France and emigrating to the Americas.

I agree with this...but London should be one of the cities in the game. With the tense relations between the Countries at the time, it would be good to see the contrasting environments and playing both sides of the struggle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah! Like you can get different perspectives, like in the original game I liked how the dying Templars would basically lay out that you were doing the same thing they were, It really made you think.

austin128
07-13-2010, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
mmm okay, i understand you, i know what you mean. but for somebody who liked to read and enjoy books it isnt dull :P but obviously the gamer wanna play and not go into virtuall libary...it was just my idea because there are so many libaries around the world with lots of old paper works. same with art museum, but paintings and artefact http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

but i am curious. how and if they can manage to make ace3 better than ac2. imo hard to do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Once you get in there it could be a minigame like reading the glyphs maybe?

Dwayne111
07-13-2010, 10:33 PM
In Assassin's Creed 3 Desmond should go back in the Animus to use the bleeding affect to get insane gun skills. Present times takes place in 2012 and they use guns. Desmond can't just use a baton and a hidden blade. I really don't care where the game does take place as long as you get to play as Desmond for a good amount of time.

EzioAssassin51
07-14-2010, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by Dwayne111:
In Assassin's Creed 3 Desmond should go back in the Animus to use the bleeding affect to get insane gun skills. Present times takes place in 2012 and they use guns. Desmond can't just use a baton and a hidden blade. I really don't care where the game does take place as long as you get to play as Desmond for a good amount of time.

What do you mean by gun skill??

Haha about the library! Maybe you could read some old Shakespear script with your Eagle Vision and you find out Shakes was an assassin and he left notes to do with TWCB and the Templars

the_real_n00b
07-14-2010, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Dwayne111:
In Assassin's Creed 3 Desmond should go back in the Animus to use the bleeding affect to get insane gun skills. Present times takes place in 2012 and they use guns. Desmond can't just use a baton and a hidden blade. I really don't care where the game does take place as long as you get to play as Desmond for a good amount of time. He wouldn't use the Animus to go to the present because he was already there and he couldn't use it to go to the future because it wouldn't work. Still, I think there's a chance he'll play in the present or in the future but not using the Animus. In AC2 Minerva sent a message to Desmond through Ezio which means something like that could happen in the present taking Desmond to the future or even sending a message to someone else, which would mean it wasn't the end yet. It would actually be a good choice because there would be an AC4. Some people say AC3 isn't the last one but I say it probably is.

austin128
07-14-2010, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by the_real_n00b:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dwayne111:
In Assassin's Creed 3 Desmond should go back in the Animus to use the bleeding affect to get insane gun skills. Present times takes place in 2012 and they use guns. Desmond can't just use a baton and a hidden blade. I really don't care where the game does take place as long as you get to play as Desmond for a good amount of time. He wouldn't use the Animus to go to the present because he was already there and he couldn't use it to go to the future because it wouldn't work. Still, I think there's a chance he'll play in the present or in the future but not using the Animus. In AC2 Minerva sent a message to Desmond through Ezio which means something like that could happen in the present taking Desmond to the future or even sending a message to someone else, which would mean it wasn't the end yet. It would actually be a good choice because there would be an AC4. Some people say AC3 isn't the last one but I say it probably is. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think the last one in Desmond's story, but not the last AC game. Patrice Desilets joked about AC 35-http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=225343

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-15-2010, 08:41 AM
Nice idea @ EzioAssassin51 and austin128.

Like something can be found in the secret vatican archives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Secret_Archives

You can creat a history also about, like the fictional book Necronomicon :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon

I wonder if the Developer like Corey May or Patrice Desilets or Sebastian Puel or even Jade Raymond ever looked into this tread, which i highyl doubt.

DavisP92
07-15-2010, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
Nice idea @ EzioAssassin51 and austin128.

Like something can be found in the secret vatican archives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Secret_Archives

You can creat a history also about, like the fictional book Necronomicon :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon

I wonder if the Developer like Corey May or Patrice Desilets or Sebastian Puel or even Jade Raymond ever looked into this tread, which i highyl doubt.

I doubt it too, but there are some really good ideas on here. so they really should. i even made some comments that justified (since thats what ubisoft wants) coop.

Fairus60
07-15-2010, 06:49 PM
jaja it would be fun to see something like the Necronomicon in AC, but that aint veru realistic. Maybe we will infiltrate to the Vatican´s archives at some point in brotherhood

Dwayne111
07-15-2010, 11:11 PM
I never said he would use the Animus to go to present time.
Desmond of course has no experience with a gun and Assassins have unreal combat skills which means Desmond would have to obtain those skills with the bleeding affect. He would have to re-live one of his ancestor's lives and would probably take place in the 20th century.

austin128
07-16-2010, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
Nice idea @ EzioAssassin51 and austin128.

Thank you! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-16-2010, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by Fairus60:
jaja it would be fun to see something like the Necronomicon in AC, but that aint veru realistic. Maybe we will infiltrate to the Vatican´s archives at some point in brotherhood

it aint very realistic, true. that was just an example of what the devs could <STRIKE>you.</STRIKE>do. of course they would need to find something much more realistic.

And i doubt we will inflitrate to the vaticanÄs archives. I doubt we will any do with archives/libaries, because i believe Brotherhood is mostly done and they wont change the story or make a new mission. I guess they even don't come up with the (secret) vatican archives.

in ac3 desmonst will enter a rocket and will fly to the moon to search for a piece of eden there located

haha that would would be the most boring story they could do!

@ austin128 No Problem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

looked at this. the sitinehall of the open archive. isn't it colorfull <3
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...f/f2/Sistinehall.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Sistinehall.jpg)

austin128
07-16-2010, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fairus60:
jaja it would be fun to see something like the Necronomicon in AC, but that aint veru realistic. Maybe we will infiltrate to the Vatican´s archives at some point in brotherhood

it aint very realistic, true. that was just an example of what the devs could you. of course they would need to find something much more realistic.

And i doubt we will inflitrate to the vaticanÄs archives. I doubt we will any do with archives/libaries, because i believe Brotherhood is mostly done and they wont change the story or make a new mission. I guess they even don't come up with the (secret) vatican archives. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well maybe they've already thought of it.
Those guys never stop amazing me...

rdh001
07-16-2010, 09:43 AM
Okay I will lay to rest my WWII idea. Although, we cannot ignore the fact that there were Assassin's during WWII, because Desmond's story takes place in the present. I would be happy if there was a segment, or a memory that took us to World War II.

I also think Industrial Revolution would be an interesting time period. Think of Sherlock Holmes, the book or the Movie for visual reference. Smog covered London would be a very visual appetizing location. Crowded streets, busy water ways [I envision being able to escape enemies by jumping off bridges onto passing barges a la Jason Bourne, or jumping from one boat to another through the busy Thames River. If the game followed the character for a number of years London could even be built throughout the game, i.e. the Tower Bridge could not be built at the start of the game and then be completed by the end. Just an thought. Ideas?

austin128
07-16-2010, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by rdh001:
I also think Industrial Revolution would be an interesting time period. Think of Sherlock Holmes, the book or the Movie for visual reference. Smog covered London would be a very visual appetizing location. Crowded streets, busy water ways [I envision being able to escape enemies by jumping off bridges onto passing barges a la Jason Bourne, or jumping from one boat to another through the busy Thames River. If the game followed the character for a number of years London could even be built throughout the game, i.e. the Tower Bridge could not be built at the start of the game and then be completed by the end. Just an thought. Ideas?
Jolly good!
I'm really sorry about that, I'll just stop... I'll just... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-16-2010, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fairus60:
jaja it would be fun to see something like the Necronomicon in AC, but that aint veru realistic. Maybe we will infiltrate to the Vatican´s archives at some point in brotherhood

it aint very realistic, true. that was just an example of what the devs could you. of course they would need to find something much more realistic.

And i doubt we will inflitrate to the vaticanÄs archives. I doubt we will any do with archives/libaries, because i believe Brotherhood is mostly done and they wont change the story or make a new mission. I guess they even don't come up with the (secret) vatican archives. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well maybe they've already thought of it.
Those guys never stop amazing me... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

true, those guys have a phantasy that is fantastic, aa+ class, in my opinion. but they don't know everything, neither do i. They have their historians who give advice. I am not a historian, but as a fan of AC, i want to give ideads, inspirations that they may dont know and find good to do something with, building on storyline, because i dont have the phantasy they have.

they are the developers of the game and develop as they want. So they have the last saying.

but still i doubt they take a look inside the thread. i would like it if they would get, even just a small inspirations out of this thread, but well...

would be cool if they would had already think of the libary/museum thing and could indroduce it withing their AC vision.

austin128
07-16-2010, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fairus60:
jaja it would be fun to see something like the Necronomicon in AC, but that aint veru realistic. Maybe we will infiltrate to the Vatican´s archives at some point in brotherhood

it aint very realistic, true. that was just an example of what the devs could you. of course they would need to find something much more realistic.

And i doubt we will inflitrate to the vaticanÄs archives. I doubt we will any do with archives/libaries, because i believe Brotherhood is mostly done and they wont change the story or make a new mission. I guess they even don't come up with the (secret) vatican archives. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well maybe they've already thought of it.
Those guys never stop amazing me... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

true, those guys have a phantasy that is fantastic, aa+ class, in my opinion. but they don't know everything, neither do i. They have their historians who give advice. I am not a historian, but as a fan of AC, i want to give ideads, inspirations that they may dont know and find good to do something with, building on storyline, because i dont have the phantasy they have.

they are the developers of the game and develop as they want. So they have the last saying.

but still i doubt they take a look inside the thread. i would like it if they would get, even just a small inspirations out of this thread, but well...

would be cool if they would had already think of the libary/museum thing and could indroduce it withing their AC vision. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I mean, we know they listen to the fans, because of all the improvements they made for AC2 that they said were wanted by fans. So we're getting to them in some way...

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-17-2010, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by austin128:

I mean, we know they listen to the fans, because of all the improvements they made for AC2 that they said were wanted by fans. So we're getting to them in some way...

oh, ok http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif yeah, allright in some way they do, thankfully. let's see, i am exicted about AC3, like everyone.

austin128
07-18-2010, 09:57 PM
AC:B won't have co-op. (http://videogamesdaily.com/news/201007/ubisoft-assassins-creed-co-op-is-super-interesting-but-doesnt-make-sense/)

austin128
07-18-2010, 10:05 PM
"Basically, what Abstergo is doing is they’re recruiting subjects and sort of uploading genetic memories into their brains, into their minds, and allowing them to train with the assassin’s skills. So in consequence you will have Templars with assassin skills." -Jean Francois Boivin

That's how they do it!

Link (http://videogamesdaily.com/interviews/201007/interview-assassins-creed-brotherhood/2/)

Xanatos2007
07-22-2010, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by bballluva0710 in another thread:
Here's my take on what is/always will be my favorite game franchise of all time:

In quoting Assassin's Creed producer, Sebastian Puel, "we could do 35 of these". And you know what, I wouldn't mind that for a millisecond.
I think the gaming world has something really really special here with the AC franchise. Lighting in a bottle. We have an unbelievable opportunity to explore times & places of world history that have never been touched, sniffed, or given passing thought to before now. The Third Crusade & the Italian Renaissance have given us just a taste of what Assassins Creed is capable of.
What I am hoping to do in this forum is pay homage to the creators, developers, and anyone who has contributed to Assassin's Creed, but at the same time share my ideas for what I'd love to see in the future of this series. While I'm hoping that someone from the AC team reads this and enjoys seeing what I have to say and tells the rest of the AC team about my ideas, I'm not looking for any recognition or credit or anything like that. I've become so passionate and immersed in this AC culture and more interested in the history of our world and I hope that the AC franchise will allow me and everyone else to stay completely enthralled for many years to come. Honestly, I would be utterly devastated if the series ends after a present/future-based AC3.

I have two theories in mind that intertwine very interestingly. One being the locations of the Pieces of Eden and the other being the use of ancestral memories of the other present-day assassins to help find the PoE.
Firstly, many of my ideas will be based on the assumption that the Assassin symbols and dots on the AC2 codex map are indicating the locations of PoE and other important places (ie. hidden temples, Templar/Assassin strongholds) because I do not think those dots and symbols were put on the map for no reason.
Secondly, has anyone considered that someone else besides Desmond can use the Animus (Lucy, Shaun, Rebecca, or even a new character not yet revealed to us) to become more well-rounded assassins since it seems they will need all the manpower they can get? Plus, their ancestors’ memories can help find the locations of various PoE because Desmond’s ancestors could only have come from so many places. Also consider that the present-day story line can be dragged out (in a good way) for awhile. Perhaps it will take an entire campaign to acquire one PoE? If I was a betting man, I’d say there will be other twists and turns to keep us occupied from focusing on just acquiring Pieces of Eden.
KEEP IN MIND: everything I suggest doesn’t necessarily have to be it’s own title and of course, everything is open for discussion. And btw, the gender of the ancestor doesn’t necessarily have to be the same as the person who is in the Animus.


Scandinavia in the Viking Age (8th-12th century) - The Christianization of Scandinavia
This time and place isn’t the sexiest setting ever but can very much be implemented into the AC world. Religious conflict is the backbone of this game and this era is more than qualified. Vikings are known for worshipping gods of war, so mix the violent culture of the Vikings with the Christian world trying to spread north, I think makes a great combo. And here comes the drama... When Christianity began dominating Scandinavia, people who still worshipped Viking beliefs were often executed or exiled. Dare I suggest that the Scandinavian rulers, (Olaf and Olaf II) who aided Christianization by being voluntarily baptized, could possibly be Templars? Just sayin....
Also, from what I’ve checked out, the architecture seems adequate enough that we can still enjoy our assassin parkour ways of getting around cities. I can easily see Shaun Hastings having ancestors from this time based on looks and he’s British which is not far from Scandinavia.


Ancient Egypt (Moses and The Exodus - really old), (King Tut - 14 century BC), (Alexander the Great - 4th century BC), (Cleopatra - 1st century BC)
I’ve heard rumors that there could be something set in Egypt. I think any one of these three ages would work and here’s why. Hell, maybe all three can coexist in the same game!
With Moses, this is one of the most important times in man’s history. IT. IS. EPICLY. HUGE. We learned that Moses used a PoE to part the Red Sea. The story can pretty much focus on how he attained this PoE. But, Moses is not the character we control. For one, he isn’t an assassin and two, he wouldn’t have anything to do with an assassin order anyways because he is not violent. He’s Moses for crying out loud! In fact, I don’t envision Moses making too many appearances in the game except for a couple really climactic and crucial moments. Instead, we take on the role of perhaps an Egyptian who is secretly an assassin but they can gain access to very private places in the kingdom. Or, and I like this idea better, an early remnant of the Brotherhood starts in the Jewish slave quarters and we take on the role of a Jewish slave who helps lead the uprising and exodus from behind the scenes.
With King Tut, I honestly don’t have much suggestion right now but I know that his death is shrouded in mystery. Hmmmmmm.....
With Alexander, although he wasn’t in Egypt for long, he was a significant part of it’s history. We know from the AC2 Assassin Temple that he was poisoned by the female assassin, Iltani in Babylon. So, this game will allow us to travel a bit more instead of being stuck in Egypt.
With Cleopatra, we also know from the Assassin Temple that she is assassinated by Amunet, a female assassin. This would be very interesting to see how we can use a snake as a weapon in this game.
Overall, I think an Egyptian AC would be best if all of these eras were implemented into one game. Desmond and Rebecca strike me as the types who could have ancestors from this region. We can play with Iltani and Amunet when Rebecca is in the Animus and then control the Exodus era and King Tut assassins with Desmond in the Animus. Or you can let Lucy have one of the females assassins as well.


Feudal Japan (12-16 century)
Pretty much, I don’t see how we can have an Assassin franchise and not include the Eastern hemisphere. Ninjas, Samurai, Shaolin Monks, you name it. The possibilities seem endless. The weaponry is so different, yet fits so perfectly with the type of weaponry that we are already used to in AssCreed. The style of fighting would be a sight to see. Need I paint a picture of countering an attack with a backflip or something crazy like that?! Way too intriguing to list every idea right now. If I had to say a specific time of Feudal Japan, perhaps the Mongolian invasions but I haven’t looked too hard into it. I’d definitely say an Eastern Asia AC is a must!


West Africa during Atlantic slave trade (16-17 century)
Assuming the Assassin symbols mean “PoE location”, then there’s one in West Africa. It would definitely have to take place some time after European colonization because of the primitive tribal architecture not meeting AC standards. The time of the Atlantic slave trade was complete turmoil. African royalty betrayed many of their own people in exchange for European treasures, weapons, and “technology”. There is too much controversy and drama to be had in this time in history to be ignored. I would love to learn to fight as an African assassin and use the different weapons they had. Perhaps towards the end of the story, your assassin becomes a slave or stow away on a ship to get to the new world. Which segues into my next idea....



Central & South America America (Hernan Cortes’ Spanish conquest of the Aztecs - 16 century)
Another must if you ask me. The AC team can’t possibly ignore the mystery shrouded behind all of those unbelievable Central American temples. Plus, there’s two Assassin symbols (PoE) off the west coast of South America. The PoE I have in mind for this time period is the one which looks to be on the Galapagos Islands. I can just imagine that in a last ditch effort to save their PoE from the hands of Cortes and his conquistadors, the remaining Aztecs escape to the shores and happen across these islands and remain there until they inevitably meet their extinction. Being Aztec warrior/assassin would be pretty badass by the way.



North America (French-Indian War 1754-1763 & Revolutionary War 1775-1783)
This scenario, in my opinion, is best if we get to play as an Indian. Specifically an Indian who is a part of the Iroquois nation since they heavily involved in both conflicts. I think it would work best if our assassin, for instance, is a young man during the French-Indian war and is still naive and learning the ways of the assassin. By the time of the Revolution, our assassin is a legend. The plot line for this time in American history has so many possibilities. Just trying to figure out which colonists could be Templars in the game gives me chills. If you look at the codex map, there’s an Assassin symbol located in Philadelphia.

Other possible times in history:
Mongolian invasions of 13th century
War of the Roses (England 1455-1485)
Thirty Years’ War (Holy Roman Empire 1618-1648)
French Revolution/Napoleonic Wars (1789-1815)
Industrial Revolution (18-19 century)
Russian Civil War (1917-1921)


Whew! Thanks for reading guys. Sorry it was so long, but not sorry enough to keep it to myself, haha. Hope you enjoyed the read!

austin128
07-22-2010, 01:12 AM
@Xanatos2007
Wow that was a mouthful (but excellent). What thread was that from?

Account_Deleted
07-22-2010, 01:40 AM
this was an extract from another thread, not xana's work xD

Xanatos2007
07-22-2010, 02:10 AM
Credit for that goes to bballluva0710, a new member.

Ru1986
07-22-2010, 02:16 AM
A thourghly good read Xanatos

Ru1986
07-22-2010, 02:25 AM
bballluva0710 Do you know AC3 will be present day/future based because you sound very much sure of that. Also after how well you have written that piece i would be prepared to believe you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

thekyle0
07-22-2010, 07:04 AM
originally posted by bballuva0710:

Ancient Egypt (Moses and The Exodus)
[...]
But, Moses is not the character we control. For one, he isn’t an assassin and two, he wouldn’t have anything to do with an assassin order anyways because he is not violent. He’s Moses for crying out loud!
[...] Moses was far from pacifist. He encouraged his followers, the Hebrews, to go into battles on their way to the "Promised land." He would even watch the battle from a nearby high ground and as the battle started he would either raise his staff or lower his staff(Think POE). He said that if he raised it they would win the fight, if he lowered it, they would lose. So clearly, he encouraged his followers to fight. That doesn't strike me as the actions of a non-violent man. (If you're a non-religious historian who believes the facts have been strained then you will most likely say that these battles were to harden the Hebrews in combat so they could evict the current residents of the "Promised land".)Take Jericho for example, (general story: Hebrews march around city for seven days, blow horns at end of each day, on the seventh day the walls fall) Even if this version is accurate, that's some pretty extreme destruction of property which is still violent in a sense. People were likely to have gathered on the walls to laugh at those silly Hebrews. They all would have died. (It is, of course, my personal theory that "the walls fell down" is just a metaphor and that the Hebrews marched around the city as a ruse to cover for partisans to enter the city over the walls while everyone was looking in the opposite direction. Then the partisans stormed the gate house from the inside and opened the city to the Hebrews. Thus, "the walls fell down".) Also, Moses also was taken into slavery at the hands of the Egyptians at some point in his life. (Did you think he developed a compassion for his people by being raised in seclusion from their bondage?) To escape his slavery, he smashed a guard's head in with a rock as the guard was preparing to whip him. (Self defense, justifiable, but still violent.) Also, not to insult any devotees, but if you believe that Moses was able to maintain discipline on a forty day march through the desert solely through "god's will" then your quite naive. I guarantee there were beatings for those who stepped out of line. (In fact, it's my personal theory that Moses died because a group of his followers lead a coup. That's just how fed up with him they became.)

So, portraying Moses as reasonably violent would make the story more accurate. It's also my opinion that if it's to be adapted to a new assassin's creed game it would make the story more interesting.

austin128
07-22-2010, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by thekyle0:
Also, Moses also was taken into slavery at the hands of the Egyptians at some point in his life. (Did you think he developed a compassion for his people by being raised in seclusion from their bondage?) To escape his slavery, he smashed a guard's head in with a rock as the guard was preparing to whip him. (Self defense, justifiable, but still violent.) Also, not to insult any devotees, but if you believe that Moses was able to maintain discipline on a forty day march through the desert solely through "god's will" then your quite naive. I guarantee there were beatings for those who stepped out of line. (In fact, it's my personal theory that Moses died because a group of his followers lead a coup. That's just how fed up with him they became.)
He wasn't a slave, but was treated as royalty because the Pharaoh's daughter took him as her own.

He did not kill that guard to escape slavery, but to save a slave that was getting beaten.

Also, it was a forty-year march.

Xanatos2007
07-22-2010, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
Also, it was a forty-year march.
And then another 40 years on top of that for when the Israelites disobeyed God on the borders of Canaan.

thekyle0
07-22-2010, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Autsin128:
He wasn't a slave, but was treated as royalty because the Pharaoh's daughter took him as her own.

He did not kill that guard to escape slavery, but to save a slave that was getting beaten.

Also, it was a forty-year march.
Yes, thank you. I should have proofread that. I did make those mistakes.

Forty year march is right.

As for the other two, now that I think about it, you're right. I should have should have brushed up on the topic after going so long without reviewing it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

LiilKiingg
07-22-2010, 07:45 AM
AC3 will be in the french revolution and AC4 other things http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
but when the last ac comes out the assassin of that story must be desmond just to finish the story that u started in 2007

bballluva0710
07-22-2010, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by thekyle0:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">originally posted by bballuva0710:

Ancient Egypt (Moses and The Exodus)
[...]
But, Moses is not the character we control. For one, he isn’t an assassin and two, he wouldn’t have anything to do with an assassin order anyways because he is not violent. He’s Moses for crying out loud!
[...] Moses was far from pacifist. He encouraged his followers, the Hebrews, to go into battles on their way to the "Promised land." He would even watch the battle from a nearby high ground and as the battle started he would either raise his staff or lower his staff(Think POE). He said that if he raised it they would win the fight, if he lowered it, they would lose. So clearly, he encouraged his followers to fight. That doesn't strike me as the actions of a non-violent man. (If you're a non-religious historian who believes the facts have been strained then you will most likely say that these battles were to harden the Hebrews in combat so they could evict the current residents of the "Promised land".)Take Jericho for example, (general story: Hebrews march around city for seven days, blow horns at end of each day, on the seventh day the walls fall) Even if this version is accurate, that's some pretty extreme destruction of property which is still violent in a sense. People were likely to have gathered on the walls to laugh at those silly Hebrews. They all would have died. (It is, of course, my personal theory that "the walls fell down" is just a metaphor and that the Hebrews marched around the city as a ruse to cover for partisans to enter the city over the walls while everyone was looking in the opposite direction. Then the partisans stormed the gate house from the inside and opened the city to the Hebrews. Thus, "the walls fell down".) Also, Moses also was taken into slavery at the hands of the Egyptians at some point in his life. (Did you think he developed a compassion for his people by being raised in seclusion from their bondage?) To escape his slavery, he smashed a guard's head in with a rock as the guard was preparing to whip him. (Self defense, justifiable, but still violent.) Also, not to insult any devotees, but if you believe that Moses was able to maintain discipline on a forty day march through the desert solely through "god's will" then your quite naive. I guarantee there were beatings for those who stepped out of line. (In fact, it's my personal theory that Moses died because a group of his followers lead a coup. That's just how fed up with him they became.)

So, portraying Moses as reasonably violent would make the story more accurate. It's also my opinion that if it's to be adapted to a new assassin's creed game it would make the story more interesting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Oh okay my bad. Obviously you know more than I do about that subject. It does make it more interesting if that's the case. I could see Moses not partaking in battles, but not frowning upon his fellow Jews for fighting (or something to that affect). It would def make it better

bballluva0710
07-22-2010, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Ru1986:
bballluva0710 Do you know AC3 will be present day/future based because you sound very much sure of that. Also after how well you have written that piece i would be prepared to believe you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


Nah lol. I don't have any insider information. I'm just assuming that each game will have to have some sort of present-day storyline since we will need the Animus to be able to play with the ancestors. I could totally see a whole new trilogy or something start up if they end Desmond's story after they save mankind.

godsmack_darius
07-22-2010, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by thekyle0:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">originally posted by bballuva0710:

Ancient Egypt (Moses and The Exodus)
[...]
But, Moses is not the character we control. For one, he isn’t an assassin and two, he wouldn’t have anything to do with an assassin order anyways because he is not violent. He’s Moses for crying out loud!
[...] Moses was far from pacifist. He encouraged his followers, the Hebrews, to go into battles on their way to the "Promised land." He would even watch the battle from a nearby high ground and as the battle started he would either raise his staff or lower his staff(Think POE). He said that if he raised it they would win the fight, if he lowered it, they would lose. So clearly, he encouraged his followers to fight. That doesn't strike me as the actions of a non-violent man. (If you're a non-religious historian who believes the facts have been strained then you will most likely say that these battles were to harden the Hebrews in combat so they could evict the current residents of the "Promised land".)Take Jericho for example, (general story: Hebrews march around city for seven days, blow horns at end of each day, on the seventh day the walls fall) Even if this version is accurate, that's some pretty extreme destruction of property which is still violent in a sense. People were likely to have gathered on the walls to laugh at those silly Hebrews. They all would have died. (It is, of course, my personal theory that "the walls fell down" is just a metaphor and that the Hebrews marched around the city as a ruse to cover for partisans to enter the city over the walls while everyone was looking in the opposite direction. Then the partisans stormed the gate house from the inside and opened the city to the Hebrews. Thus, "the walls fell down".) Also, Moses also was taken into slavery at the hands of the Egyptians at some point in his life. (Did you think he developed a compassion for his people by being raised in seclusion from their bondage?) To escape his slavery, he smashed a guard's head in with a rock as the guard was preparing to whip him. (Self defense, justifiable, but still violent.) Also, not to insult any devotees, but if you believe that Moses was able to maintain discipline on a forty day march through the desert solely through "god's will" then your quite naive. I guarantee there were beatings for those who stepped out of line. (In fact, it's my personal theory that Moses died because a group of his followers lead a coup. That's just how fed up with him they became.)

So, portraying Moses as reasonably violent would make the story more accurate. It's also my opinion that if it's to be adapted to a new assassin's creed game it would make the story more interesting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

According to his story, Moses told his followers too kill eachother when they were worshipping, I think it was some sort of bull or animal, I forget. Peice Of Eden anyone?

austin128
07-22-2010, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by thekyle0:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Autsin128:
He wasn't a slave, but was treated as royalty because the Pharaoh's daughter took him as her own.

He did not kill that guard to escape slavery, but to save a slave that was getting beaten.

Also, it was a forty-year march.
Yes, thank you. I should have proofread that. I did make those mistakes.

Forty year march is right.

As for the other two, now that I think about it, you're right. I should have should have brushed up on the topic after going so long without reviewing it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No worries. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

austin128
07-22-2010, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by godsmack_darius:
According to his story, Moses told his followers too kill eachother when they were worshipping, I think it was some sort of bull or animal, I forget. Peice Of Eden anyone?
Where'd you hear that?

austin128
07-22-2010, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by LiilKiingg:
AC3 will be in the french revolution and AC4 other things http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
but when the last ac comes out the assassin of that story must be desmond just to finish the story that u started in 2007
Welcome to the forums!
And do you mean last ever AC game or in Desmond's storyline?

Legion_123_456
07-24-2010, 05:53 AM
Hi. Sorry I didn't post at this thred. I was going to do it earlier, but I had work. So here is mi version of a bulgarian Assassin's creed
My Assassin's name is Orlin(eagle in bulgarian)Petrov(that's my name).He is a young newly recruted assassin. It's the 30th of april 1945. The russian forces are about to invade berlin. In history Hitler actuali kills himself. But actualy our hero kills him to show how good he is. But the boss of the order is so mad that he calls him to the capital of the Assassin's ored - Itali, for punishment. On his way, the Templars make a big move againts the assassins. They blow up all of the assassin'oreder hideout places in the world killin each and evry assassin in the world exept Orlin who was late. Orlin understand and swears to rebuild the order and kill who ever is responsible. He goes back to Bulgaria an starts rebuilding the order from scratch. Bulgaria has just become a komunis country and in this time almost all the politics were killed. The half of them weree dekleard poisoned and never shown to the public and the other half were murderd in public places were evereone coud see them. That sounds like the perfekt place. So it's basicli like ACB bit in Bulgaria. In the end he becomes leader and kills the traitor. (and he gets a girl)
and some details
- After he kills a target he leaves a rose(it's komunist, but it's also a symbol of Bulgaria)
- His wepons are the Bulgarian cavalery war sword, the Bulgarian king dager, the Ladies Mini revolver(because it's the smallest of it's time), the Soviet M1891/30 Mosin Nagant sniper and afcourse the hiden blades
- His father (Nikolai) is a former assassin and a WW1 veteran. He trains Orlin after the order is blown up.
- His older brother(Mitko) and sister(Mimi) are killed in the assaut
- His mother(Diana)dies after Orlin's birth
- He finds a made on his first misson to rebuild the brotherhood. Her name is Blaga. She helps him kill Bogdan Filov(a politic) and Orlin later fals in love with her.
Hope you like the story. Ther are more details, but some other time.
P.S-again, sorry I diddn'd post earlier

Ru1986
07-24-2010, 08:09 AM
It needs to be way more than 100 years ago 1945 and 1900's is barely history no you need the ancient feel. 1500's at the ealiest.

masterfenix2009
07-24-2010, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LiilKiingg:
AC3 will be in the french revolution and AC4 other things http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
but when the last ac comes out the assassin of that story must be desmond just to finish the story that u started in 2007
Welcome to the forums!
And do you mean last ever AC game or in Desmond's storyline? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


when i was new no one welcomed me and that was months ago. =[. *cries in the corner*

austin128
07-25-2010, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by assassino151:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LiilKiingg:
AC3 will be in the french revolution and AC4 other things http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
but when the last ac comes out the assassin of that story must be desmond just to finish the story that u started in 2007
Welcome to the forums!
And do you mean last ever AC game or in Desmond's storyline? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


when i was new no one welcomed me and that was months ago. =[. *cries in the corner* </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well I would have! Welcome...ish...

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-27-2010, 06:44 AM
How possible would be the French Revolution?

SlimeDynamiteD
07-27-2010, 06:57 AM
No frenchmans in Assassin's Creed!
Besides, the French Revolution isn't really a Revolution you'd see Assassins in... Or maybe that's just me.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-27-2010, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by SlimeDynamiteD:
No frenchmans in Assassin's Creed!
Besides, the French Revolution isn't really a Revolution you'd see Assassins in... Or maybe that's just me.

which history period would you like or it doesn't else matter for yourself? :P

austin128
07-27-2010, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
which history period would you like or it doesn't else matter for yourself? :P
Could you rephrase that? I don't understand what you said.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
07-28-2010, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
which history period would you like or it doesn't else matter for yourself? :P
Could you rephrase that? I don't understand what you said. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i asked SlimeDynamiteD, what time in history he would like to have for the setting in AC3 or if he doesn't care about the time. If it is not important to him.

austin128
07-28-2010, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
which history period would you like or it doesn't else matter for yourself? :P
Could you rephrase that? I don't understand what you said. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i asked SlimeDynamiteD, what time in history he would like to have for the setting in AC3 or if he doesn't care about the time. If it is not important to him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ok thanks!

z0nnebril
08-05-2010, 02:25 PM
AC3 must be in the Dutch Golden Age!
Holland was one of the leading nations in the world and it would be amazing when you could run trough Amsterdam around 1600! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Dutch Golden Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Golden_Age)

A lot of things where discovered in this time period and a lot of famous art works where made http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

CherokeeInferno
08-05-2010, 06:14 PM
This may seem far-fetched, but what about having AC3 set in colonial times, with the 4 biggest cities/towns being Liverpool, London, Jamestown, and Plymouth. This can correlate to why Desmond lives in the USA and the fact that the English people in Jamestown suddenly turned on the native americans around them and killed them all, after about 30 years of peace. You could travel to America in the second part of the game via a boat, much like going to Venice in AC2. Just an idea, but I would buy AC3 if it was in this time period/location.

austin128
08-05-2010, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by CherokeeInferno:
This may seem far-fetched, but what about having AC3 set in colonial times, with the 4 biggest cities/towns being Liverpool, London, Jamestown, and Plymouth. This can correlate to why Desmond lives in the USA and the fact that the English people in Jamestown suddenly turned on the native americans around them and killed them all, after about 30 years of peace. You could travel to America in the second part of the game via a boat, much like going to Venice in AC2. Just an idea, but I would buy AC3 if it was in this time period/location.
Yeah, plus don't forget the mystery regarding Roanoke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roanoke_Colony).

UBOSOFT-Gamer
08-06-2010, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CherokeeInferno:
This may seem far-fetched, but what about having AC3 set in colonial times, with the 4 biggest cities/towns being Liverpool, London, Jamestown, and Plymouth. This can correlate to why Desmond lives in the USA and the fact that the English people in Jamestown suddenly turned on the native americans around them and killed them all, after about 30 years of peace. You could travel to America in the second part of the game via a boat, much like going to Venice in AC2. Just an idea, but I would buy AC3 if it was in this time period/location.
Yeah, plus don't forget the mystery regarding Roanoke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roanoke_Colony). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

interessting, thx http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif any more mysterious from the colonyzation ime? (hope colonyzation is correct written)

CherokeeInferno
08-06-2010, 08:03 PM
Maybe work in the Salem Witch Trials as some sort of massacring of people affiliated with the Assassin's. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Possibly AC 4 could concern the American Civil War.
But in AC3, it would be cool if you not only controlled the land you had, but also a ship, and to get to England from America, you have to sail there. The sailing would not take long, but you can sail in a little "open world" sea up and down a part of the Coast(s). While sailing though, it would be cool if pirates or enemies would try to board the ship.

austin128
08-07-2010, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by CherokeeInferno:
Maybe work in the Salem Witch Trials as some sort of massacring of people affiliated with the Assassin's. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Possibly AC 4 could concern the American Civil War.
But in AC3, it would be cool if you not only controlled the land you had, but also a ship, and to get to England from America, you have to sail there. The sailing would not take long, but you can sail in a little "open world" sea up and down a part of the Coast(s). While sailing though, it would be cool if pirates or enemies would try to board the ship.
And they could use the POE on the judges to make him say they were guilty!

About the ship thing, I'd think it would be hard to do a controllable ship (since the oceans so big), but maybe a sequence where you have to fight pirates while the ship goes by itself? You can leap back and forth from the enemy ship to yours (swinging Jack Sparrow-style!)! Also, maybe it could be optional side missions for you to go to little islands for linear missions. You can unlock more by going through the game, or maybe paying for an island and having different missions unlock on it in different segmented areas of it. It would be like the fast-travel stations, you just go up to it, pick the mission, and you start it.

austin128
08-07-2010, 02:27 AM
@UBOSOFT-Gamer
Fer real! I get sick of people saying that.
The singleplayer is just as long. New fantastic (IMO) multiplayer modes that bring something never done before to the table. The biggest city in AC history, rebuilding a whole city, assassins helpers that can help you in your missions and that you can send off to do missions, all upgradeable. Horse combat, new combat, new weapons, new enemies, and the continuation of the story (which is my favorite of any game)!

Should I go on? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

AMuppetMatt
08-07-2010, 03:26 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/9071099578 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/9071099578)


We gotta whole list of improvements here for AC3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

American revolution would be very good and link in well with the story. Either that or Industrial England just before they go off sailing to America. It would explain

A) Why Desmond lives in America
B) Span two continents if they have half of the game in England and half in America

UBOSOFT-Gamer
08-07-2010, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
@UBOSOFT-Gamer
Fer real! I get sick of people saying that.
The singleplayer is just as long. New fantastic (IMO) multiplayer modes that bring something never done before to the table. The biggest city in AC history, rebuilding a whole city, assassins helpers that can help you in your missions and that you can send off to do missions, all upgradeable. Horse combat, new combat, new weapons, new enemies, and the continuation of the story (which is my favorite of any game)!

Should I go on? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
???? What did i say?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

AMuppetMatt
08-07-2010, 08:28 AM
I think he's referring to your signature...

Stormpen
08-07-2010, 11:12 AM
All I want from ACIII is for it to go back to the Assassin based storyline, instead of the Piece of Eden plot.
While I loved the PoE plot, I feel that ACII drew far too much attention to the it, and moved away from the original plot.

Xanatos2007
08-07-2010, 11:24 AM
Actually they only really focused on the PoE at the end of each game, AC2's story mainly revolved around bugger all.

Stormpen
08-07-2010, 11:28 AM
What about the glyphs?

UBOSOFT-Gamer
08-07-2010, 12:31 PM
@ AMuppetMatt ah, yes. Omg, haha i'm stupid http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Now i think so too, lol. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

@UBISOFT and Developer of AC. Here is a photo you may can use for AC3
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/12/17/49/59/ceremo10.jpg

I hope you continue with the glyphes or similar puzzels. Really liked it. Was a bit different to the fighting. And AC-Wiki mentioned sword
http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sword

So you may can bring that photo in AC3, either for glyphes or for story.

In historic reallity, Hitler recieved a copy of the ceremo-sword from Frederick II. in 1935 at Nuremberg

For the game, it could be that sword which Those Who Came Before, Perseus, King Arthur, Sigurd, Jeanne d'Arc, etc. had.

Just an idea, nothing more. Thanks.

austin128
08-09-2010, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
@ AMuppetMatt ah, yes. Omg, haha i'm stupid http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Now i think so too, lol. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

@UBISOFT and Developer of AC. Here is a photo you may can use for AC3
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/12/17/49/59/ceremo10.jpg

I hope you continue with the glyphes or similar puzzels. Really liked it. Was a bit different to the fighting. And AC-Wiki mentioned sword
http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sword

So you may can bring that photo in AC3, either for glyphes or for story.

In historic reallity, Hitler recieved a copy of the ceremo-sword from Frederick II. in 1935 at Nuremberg

For the game, it could be that sword which Those Who Came Before, Perseus, King Arthur, Sigurd, Jeanne d'Arc, etc. had.

Just an idea, nothing more. Thanks.
haha I didn't know it was a signature because usually there's a line in between.
And nice find with the sword Hitler pic my friend!

primerib69
08-09-2010, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by UBOSOFT-Gamer:
@ AMuppetMatt ah, yes. Omg, haha i'm stupid http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Now i think so too, lol. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

@UBISOFT and Developer of AC. Here is a photo you may can use for AC3
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/12/17/49/59/ceremo10.jpg

I hope you continue with the glyphes or similar puzzels. Really liked it. Was a bit different to the fighting. And AC-Wiki mentioned sword
http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sword

Yeah dude the Sword of Eden. Good find http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ryhi
08-09-2010, 10:13 AM
On ac2 the barcode thing at the side of the wall on marios house wher you get a subject 16 file.

he says queen isabella, who was born in portugal but then taken to leon and then later known as the queen of leon.

THe next game i think is set in france

itsamea-mario
08-09-2010, 10:19 AM
thats absolutely no reason to think its set in france, many countries are mentioned in AC2, by that logic AC3 could be set in any of them.

Grand_Arcanum
08-09-2010, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
thats absolutely no reason to think its set in france, many countries are mentioned in AC2, by that logic AC3 could be set in any of them.

I disagree. I think that the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror would make an excellent backdrop to AC3. Also, according to The Truth, Napoleon Bonaparte possessed a Piece of Eden. How he obtained it intrigues me and, for what it's worth, he made an expedition to Egypt and tried to gain control of Acre.

Another good choice would be the Americas (apparently, Ezio's girlfriend, Cristina, has the same surname as Amerigo, the man that America was named after). Depending on the time, we could be dealing with Conquistadors, Spanish Missionaries, or the Free Masons. America was an opportunity to establish a New World Order, and I doubt that either the Templars or the Assassins would pass it up.

austin128
08-10-2010, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Grand_Arcanum:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
thats absolutely no reason to think its set in france, many countries are mentioned in AC2, by that logic AC3 could be set in any of them.

I disagree. I think that the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror would make an excellent backdrop to AC3. Also, according to The Truth, Napoleon Bonaparte possessed a Piece of Eden. How he obtained it intrigues me and, for what it's worth, he made an expedition to Egypt and tried to gain control of Acre.

Another good choice would be the Americas (apparently, Ezio's girlfriend, Cristina, has the same surname as Amerigo, the man that America was named after). Depending on the time, we could be dealing with Conquistadors, Spanish Missionaries, or the Free Masons. America was an opportunity to establish a New World Order, and I doubt that either the Templars or the Assassins would pass it up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I really like your points. Maybe if you go to Acre you would have visions, kind of like the bleeding effect that Desmond has, except it's just through the assassin's blood.

primerib69
08-10-2010, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Grand_Arcanum:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
thats absolutely no reason to think its set in france, many countries are mentioned in AC2, by that logic AC3 could be set in any of them.

I disagree. I think that the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror would make an excellent backdrop to AC3. Also, according to The Truth, Napoleon Bonaparte possessed a Piece of Eden. How he obtained it intrigues me and, for what it's worth, he made an expedition to Egypt and tried to gain control of Acre.

Another good choice would be the Americas (apparently, Ezio's girlfriend, Cristina, has the same surname as Amerigo, the man that America was named after). Depending on the time, we could be dealing with Conquistadors, Spanish Missionaries, or the Free Masons. America was an opportunity to establish a New World Order, and I doubt that either the Templars or the Assassins would pass it up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If we go with the 'Oh he had a PoE, so we should have the game be in his time period" thing, then you would have to do that with everyone. And just because a glyph said this person or this person blah-blah-blah PoE blah-blah-blah doesn't mean that's where it is going to be, or be about.

Grand_Arcanum
08-10-2010, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by primerib69:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grand_Arcanum:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
thats absolutely no reason to think its set in france, many countries are mentioned in AC2, by that logic AC3 could be set in any of them.

I disagree. I think that the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror would make an excellent backdrop to AC3. Also, according to The Truth, Napoleon Bonaparte possessed a Piece of Eden. How he obtained it intrigues me and, for what it's worth, he made an expedition to Egypt and tried to gain control of Acre.

Another good choice would be the Americas (apparently, Ezio's girlfriend, Cristina, has the same surname as Amerigo, the man that America was named after). Depending on the time, we could be dealing with Conquistadors, Spanish Missionaries, or the Free Masons. America was an opportunity to establish a New World Order, and I doubt that either the Templars or the Assassins would pass it up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If we go with the 'Oh he had a PoE, so we should have the game be in his time period" thing, then you would have to do that with everyone. And just because a glyph said this person or this person blah-blah-blah PoE blah-blah-blah doesn't mean that's where it is going to be, or be about. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then I'll say this: the French Revolution could offer the Assassins a chance to see their ideals of common people deciding their own destinies, instead of being at the mercy of the whims of religion and aristocracy. IMHO, it all goes to hell in the Reign of Terror, and witnessing the Assassins cope with the defeat of their ideals by the government that has meant to end oppression will be very interesting.

Maximilien Robespierre may have even been as Assassin himself (in the game universe, of course.), but becomes so paranoid and mad with power and fanaticism that he must eventually be assassinated by you the player.

itsamea-mario
08-10-2010, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by Grand_Arcanum:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
thats absolutely no reason to think its set in france, many countries are mentioned in AC2, by that logic AC3 could be set in any of them.

I disagree. I think that the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror would make an excellent backdrop to AC3. Also, according to The Truth, Napoleon Bonaparte possessed a Piece of Eden. How he obtained it intrigues me and, for what it's worth, he made an expedition to Egypt and tried to gain control of Acre.

Another good choice would be the Americas (apparently, Ezio's girlfriend, Cristina, has the same surname as Amerigo, the man that America was named after). Depending on the time, we could be dealing with Conquistadors, Spanish Missionaries, or the Free Masons. America was an opportunity to establish a New World Order, and I doubt that either the Templars or the Assassins would pass it up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wasn't saying that it shouldn't be in france, i think france is quite a good idea (although i'd prefer it to be mainly modern times with desmond) I was simply critisizing his logic for thinking that was a valid reason.

austin128
08-10-2010, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by Grand_Arcanum:
Maximilien Robespierre may have even been as Assassin himself (in the game universe, of course.), but becomes so paranoid and mad with power and fanaticism that he must eventually be assassinated by you the player.
Do you mind telling us the basics about Maximilien Robespierre?

ryhi
08-10-2010, 04:41 AM
he had something to do with the french revolution?

Lightice1
08-10-2010, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grand_Arcanum:
Maximilien Robespierre may have even been as Assassin himself (in the game universe, of course.), but becomes so paranoid and mad with power and fanaticism that he must eventually be assassinated by you the player.
Do you mind telling us the basics about Maximilien Robespierre? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wikipedia is your friend, but never mind. Robespierre was the leading figure of the Revolution. His development as a person was interesting, to say the least. He started off as an idealistic young lawyer who argued that the entire institution of death penalty is highly immoral, and criticized the nobility for being above the law.

When he became the head of the Revolution he took a 180 degrees turn on his stance, becoming the embodiment of the Terror that the Revolution devolved into, seeing conspiracies everywhere and executing dozens of people daily as counterrevolutionaries. He also turned against established religion, considering it a royalist lie, and and attempted to start a Religion of Reason in its place, and tried to change the names of months and days to wipe out any references to old gods and emperors. The only such reform that survived and thrived was the metric system.

Ultimately even his compatriots realized that he had gone utterly nuts, and put him in gilliotine, ending the Reign of Terror, but ultimately resulting in Napoleon becoming the Emperor of France, and starting yet another cycle of violence, this time across Europe.

This story definately has material for Assassin's Creed. Robespierre could easily be considered a man who found out the thruth of those who game before through a Piece of Eden, and couldn't take it, and attempted to destroy everything relating to them with the Piece's aid, Templars and Assassins alike.

WackoJacko_7
08-10-2010, 07:38 AM
I think japan would be a good idea because we cant really go back in time and you cant just think of a place to set it like randomly say india, because it needs a time period to back it up so i say japan just after the italian renaissance, it will prevent guns being used alot ( i dont like guns in AC games ) because they were slower on their technology back then and stayed to the path of the samurai, but i really dont want it to be in WW2 and i dont think it ever will be.

itsamea-mario
08-10-2010, 08:03 AM
no no no japan no!

CherokeeInferno
08-10-2010, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Lightice1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by austin128:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grand_Arcanum:
Maximilien Robespierre may have even been as Assassin himself (in the game universe, of course.), but becomes so paranoid and mad with power and fanaticism that he must eventually be assassinated by you the player.
Do you mind telling us the basics about Maximilien Robespierre? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Robespierre was ultimately executed during the Thermidorian Reaction b/c he was the leader of the Jacobins, who were the leading force of the French Revolution. Before he died, he tried to commit suicide by shooting himself in the head with a 1-shot flintlock (I believe) pistol. He missed. He ended up shooting half his jaw off so that he had to wait for his execution with his jaw hanging off his face. During his reign, he became feared b/c he was paranoid and feared foreigners and traitors. Anyone who didn't express complete patriotic enthusiasm for the revolution was suspected, and most people who were suspected were killed. Thus France received another absolutist government that was worse than the previous one. This is all from my head early in the morning, but I am a huge history nerd, so if you have questions concerning history, just ask me! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Also, I don't think I explained the Thermidorean Reaction, this was the overthrow of the radicals by the moderates. This was the creation of a temporary democratic government. Napoleon did not actually start to reign until about 1799. Napoleon was also exiled to Corsica in 1815. That same year he escaped exile and reigned for 100 days. At the Battle of Waterloo, the British captured him and sent him to St. Helena where he died because arsenic in his wallpaper heightened his health problems, which ulimately led to his death in 1821.

Wikipedia is your friend, but never mind. Robespierre was the leading figure of the Revolution. His development as a person was interesting, to say the least. He started off as an idealistic young lawyer who argued that the entire institution of death penalty is highly immoral, and criticized the nobility for being above the law.

When he became the head of the Revolution he took a 180 degrees turn on his stance, becoming the embodiment of the Terror that the Revolution devolved into, seeing conspiracies everywhere and executing dozens of people daily as counterrevolutionaries. He also turned against established religion, considering it a royalist lie, and and attempted to start a Religion of Reason in its place, and tried to change the names of months and days to wipe out any references to old gods and emperors. The only such reform that survived and thrived was the metric system.

Ultimately even his compatriots realized that he had gone utterly nuts, and put him in gilliotine, ending the Reign of Terror, but ultimately resulting in Napoleon becoming the Emperor of France, and starting yet another cycle of violence, this time across Europe.

This story definately has material for Assassin's Creed. Robespierre could easily be considered a man who found out the thruth of those who game before through a Piece of Eden, and couldn't take it, and attempted to destroy everything relating to them with the Piece's aid, Templars and Assassins alike. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

UBOSOFT-Gamer
08-10-2010, 10:03 AM
i think the muzzleloaderguns are ok. altough the beginning of AC B has a bit call of duty-style in my opinion. I think a bit black powder guns are ok, as long as it doesn't dominate the whole game. But modern guns, so any guns from 1850 to present shouldn't never be used in any AC game. But that's just me.

And i also doesn't like Japan. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif

*edit* surely most haven already seen the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpZP_80gNjg

austin128
08-10-2010, 03:45 PM
@CherokeeInferno & Lightice1
I was just talking about a couple of sentences, but thank you so much! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

@UBOSOFT-Gamer
How was it like Call of Duty?

Pwn0rkill
08-10-2010, 04:57 PM
<span class="ev_code_RED">You guy's aren't thinking about assassin's creed 3 you guy's are just thinking about some screwed up game of your own! None of you must own Assassin's Creed 2 because at the end it actully say's that you need to find the temples before the templars do and they are talking to desmond not ezio so in assassin's creed 3 you will probably be playing as desmond and hunting down the temple's and killing templars in the real world I mean yea your idea's are great and stuff just not for Assassin's Creed 3 but some of them are they just don't follow the storyline it also says that Assassin's Creed 3 will be continued off of Assassin's Creed 2!</span>

UBOSOFT-Gamer
08-10-2010, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by austin128:

@UBOSOFT-Gamer
How was it like Call of Duty?

uncle mario said we nee to hold them off untill the inhabitans can leave. I will do that. Use the cannons." I dont know why, but how they speak reminds me a little on call of duty 1.

And then he runs and everything seems to collapse and shoot the canon and boom http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I didn't say it is bad. I said it just reminds me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif - only a bit, of course.

EmperorxZurg
08-10-2010, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Pwn0rkill:
<span class="ev_code_RED">You guy's aren't thinking about assassin's creed 3 you guy's are just thinking about some screwed up game of your own! None of you must own Assassin's Creed 2 because at the end it actully say's that you need to find the temples before the templars do and they are talking to desmond not ezio so in assassin's creed 3 you will probably be playing as desmond and hunting down the temple's and killing templars in the real world I mean yea your idea's are great and stuff just not for Assassin's Creed 3 but some of them are they just don't follow the storyline it also says that Assassin's Creed 3 will be continued off of Assassin's Creed 2!</span>

this oughta be fun. Acting like he knows better and thinking he's cool for changing colors. Some you failed to notice though is, how is Desmond going to find these temples? He's probably going to play through some other ancestor's memory that got hold of info or found them before. Also, the key part of this game is memories and the Animus, they're not going to throw it out. Plus the point you brought up has been discussed in LENGTH MANY TIMES before you. So next time do some digging before blatantly saying you're right.

Lightice1
08-10-2010, 05:58 PM
Playing as Desmond the whole game is highly improbable. It would thoroughly wreck the premise followed through the two games, replacing it with something that only a fraction of the fanbase would appreciate.

The charm of Assassin's Creed comes from the historical settings and characters in the context of a sci-fi thriller revolving around ancient conspiracies. Switching perspective entirely to the modern day would do away with much of that charm. We all live in the present day, and most games are set here and now, more or less. Putting Assassin's Creed 3 into the same setting would just make it less special and more generic, hurting its sales and reputation.

I can easily see the game played in chapters, with some being set in the present day with Desmond, while others in the Animus, trying to discover vital facts concerning the search. My only fear concerning it is that unless the writing is excellent, it might well become disjointed collection of isolated events, like most of the first game was. But AC2 was such a great improvement storywise that I can put my faith in the creative team, at least for now.

austin128
08-10-2010, 08:31 PM
@Pwn0rkill
What everyone else said, AND the thread is "3 and Beyond"

@d1sturbedme
Hey man! Haven't seen you around here for awhile!

rdh001
08-10-2010, 08:33 PM
Does anyone else see Ubi struggling with Desomond and the present day story? We saw at the end of AC2 that Ubi is going to struggle with the game play in present day, especially if present day goonies are going to be using bobby sticks to beat Desmond, and not guns. I am sorry to the faithful who don't want to see copious amounts of guns, but I for one do not want Desmond fighting goonies in present day armed with nothing but bobby sticks, they would have guns, automatic ones. I think AC can stay true to the series by continuing the great game play of AC and AC2, but bringing Desmond's story into the 21st century.

EmperorxZurg
08-10-2010, 09:44 PM
yo Auatin! yeah, I've been lurking the forums more than posting lately. Not many crackpot theories I've seen yet :P Brotherhood is gonna give us a LOT more details though.

@rdh: yeah that's been the problem we've been incurring, if it's present day, guns are needed, but it would ruin gameplay of what AC is known for. That's why my theory might be that they NEED Desmond alive, so lethal force was de-authorized maybe?

Grand_Arcanum
08-10-2010, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by rdh001:
Does anyone else see Ubi struggling with Desomond and the present day story? We saw at the end of AC2 that Ubi is going to struggle with the game play in present day, especially if present day goonies are going to be using bobby sticks to beat Desmond, and not guns. I am sorry to the faithful who don't want to see copious amounts of guns, but I for one do not want Desmond fighting goonies in present day armed with nothing but bobby sticks, they would have guns, automatic ones. I think AC can stay true to the series by continuing the great game play of AC and AC2, but bringing Desmond's story into the 21st century.

I think I'll risk putting my foot in my mouth by saying that the whole gun problem could be averted if the game focused on silent takedowns, a la Arkham Asylum. Using a gun ourselves would be interesting. On the one hand, guns are quick and have great range. On the other, guns are loud, even with a suppressor you'd alert your presence to a other enemies. This is a stealth game.

The real question for me is how are the Devs going to preserve the sandbox style gameplay when we are searching for the Temples. Maybe they're hidden in sites near or beneath major cities, but if they're not, the game is going to be a lot like Prince of Persia in linearity. Linearity isn't bad, but it's not Assassin's Creed

EmperorxZurg
08-10-2010, 09:53 PM
Ah, no it isn't. I'm still pretty much with my theory that he'll search for the temples in the past with ancestor memory, then have some assassin-mobile/chopper get Desmond there and maybe a fellow assassin to retrieve it in a quick level.

austin128
08-11-2010, 02:33 AM
Well what do y'all think for every temple (different ancestor for each one) there can be one city. Or maybe focus on one ancestor and only do linear temple missions with the other ones?

Also, when Brotherhood comes out, what do y'all think of making a thread that divides the parts of the game for people that beat those parts to discuss? Like one for every Memory Block?

Adam151184
08-11-2010, 03:24 AM
Well its unlikely you will be using anyone but Desmond to locate the treasures. The animus only allows you to see memories not time travel. Also the fact that at the end of AC2 in the god's tomb Minivera (the blue person you talk to) talks to Desmond not Ezio. During AC2 they say there using the bleeding effect to train Desmond to become an assassin and if there are memories of his ancestors destroying the pieces of eden then ubisoft will have to think of another reason not to just skip to the memory of his ancestor destroying it. As in AC1 you couldn't access the target memory at the start of the game and had to go back to an earlier memory to work forward and in AC2 the assassins knew that the templars took interest in Ezio's life just didn't know which specific point. All of this makes it pretty obvious there will be a game where you play as Desmond in a 21st century setting (with guns instead of toy lightsabers) finding and destroying the pieces of eden.

itsamea-mario
08-11-2010, 03:58 AM
no i think he meant you find out where the temples are then find them as desmond.

and they can keep the sandbox style, by having main area like the cities in ac2/1 these can be in different countries if needs be, think it'd probably take as long for ezio to travel to another city in italy as it'd take desmond to fly to another country.
and then the temples some could be in place far away from the main area, but these would be special missions, linearish missions mixed with the sand box game.
there are two ways ancestors could be incorperated, the animus and the bleeding effect. i'd prefer it if you passed out and viewed ancestors in order to leaqrn new things, like skills and information, and used the animus as a training machine.

austin128
08-11-2010, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
no i think he meant you find out where the temples are then find them as desmond.
Yeah, that's definitely what I meant.


and they can keep the sandbox style, by having main area like the cities in ac2/1 these can be in different countries if needs be, think it'd probably take as long for ezio to travel to another city in italy as it'd take desmond to fly to another country.
and then the temples some could be in place far away from the main area, but these would be special missions, linearish missions mixed with the sand box game.
there are two ways ancestors could be incorperated, the animus and the bleeding effect. i'd prefer it if you passed out and viewed ancestors in order to leaqrn new things, like skills and information, and used the animus as a training machine.
I love all these ideas.

What did you mean by "it'd probably take as long for ezio to travel to another city in italy as it'd take desmond to fly to another country."? Remember that Desmond lived 40 years of Ezio's life in 2 days.

itsamea-mario
08-11-2010, 06:03 AM
i was just sayin, that it would be like how ezio travels from city to city, and how it would be pretty much the same for desmond to travel from country to country, as sort of justification for having an international setting.

Lightice1
08-11-2010, 06:14 AM
I really hope that AC3 won't degenerate into a Tomb Raider ripoff that people here now keep describing. I strongly doubt that it's going to happen. In fact, I doubt that we see more than one new Vault in AC3. In order to avoid a repetitive storyline, it's best to either delegate other Vaults to other Assassin descendents, or use some kind of chain reaction to activate them all from a single location.

We shall see how the dev team approaches this issue in storytelling, but I wouldn't expect a game of Desmond crawling from one alien tomb to another, if I were you.

austin128
08-11-2010, 07:14 AM
@itsamea-mario- Ok thanks.

@Lightice1- We're thinking more, or at least I am, play in free roaming city as assassin. Find Vault. Rinse and repeat. One large city per assassin. AC2 had linear missions, but in the end it wasn't Tomb Raider.

Really, I don't like this, but I don't know how to wrap up Desmond's story by AC3. Maybe you only need to go to a few with the same ancestor or something.

About the "one triggers the others" idea, I don't think that can be, because when Ezio went to the Vault, the others didn't activate then.

Lightice1
08-11-2010, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
@Lightice1- We're thinking more, or at least I am, play in free roaming city as assassin. Find Vault. Rinse and repeat. One large city per assassin. AC2 had linear missions, but in the end it wasn't Tomb Raider.

The problem is, modern cities aren't nearly as parkour-friendly. They are also much larger and difficult to handle. And they most certainly don't have armed guards patrolling on rooftops outside a few very nasty locations. And if each Assassin-symbol on the Codex-map represents one Vault, it means that their number is entirely unmanageable unless every single moment of the game is set within them.


About the "one triggers the others" idea, I don't think that can be, because when Ezio went to the Vault, the others didn't activate then.

There are lots of reasons why this could not be an issue. For example, Desmond has to do it, not Ezio, because of a timer, or something like that. or that there is one Vault that controls all the others, and it wasn't this one. Or that anyone with Assassin blood will do, and that Desmond will just have to send right people to these locations, to activate them all at the same time.

The last scenario sounds the most likely at the moment, in the light of the Brotherhood. It's promised to have instants where you send your recruits in different parts of the world to do missions you can't participate in. It could well be a case of Ubisoft testing how this playstyle might fit for the grand finale.

vistheindian
08-11-2010, 08:06 AM
For all the people who want an open-world/sandbox game set during the WW2, I suggest you play Saboteur. It is a decent game not as good as the Assassin's Creed series but it is good alternative for now if your really aching for that setting in an open world game. For the people who say that setting is bad for parkour... I have to disagree, it has great potential, even Saboteur attempts it. It falls a bit short of Assassin's Creed but it is definitely possible if done right.

BUT personally, I don't think WW2 would be good setting for the next game. Story wise probably good considering nazis being obsessed with ancient artifacts. But gameplay wise, it would have to become very gun-friendly which I doubt many of the fans would like...

So yea definitely would not like to see 1900s in the games, but would still buy it just to find out what the hell happens in the end lol.

austin128
08-11-2010, 08:08 AM
@Lightice1
No, I was talking about free roaming in the animus, no in the present, and then doing the temple/s in the present.

And I like you're idea.

Lightice1
08-11-2010, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
@Lightice1
No, I was talking about free roaming in the animus, no in the present, and then doing the temple/s in the present.

But roaming around the world in any other than the modern period would be troublesome, to say the least. With multiple characters it would be easier, but then you wouldn't get the emotional connection to the protagonist(s).


And I like you're idea.

Thanks, but they're just guesses based on how I think a game company works. When they've developed one popular concept that makes them tons of money, they're not eager to change it too much, any time soon. Hence why I don't think that Assassin's Creed 3 will be incredibly different from Assassin's Creed 2, despite of the current course of the plot. Whatever happens during the Brotherhood will probably hint which way the story is going to take, giving us the chance to make more accurate predictions.

EmperorxZurg
08-11-2010, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by vistheindian:
For all the people who want an open-world/sandbox game set during the WW2, I suggest you play Saboteur. It is a decent game not as good as the Assassin's Creed series but it is good alternative for now if your really aching for that setting in an open world game. For the people who say that setting is bad for parkour... I have to disagree, it has great potential, even Saboteur attempts it. It falls a bit short of Assassin's Creed but it is definitely possible if done right.

BUT personally, I don't think WW2 would be good setting for the next game. Story wise probably good considering nazis being obsessed with ancient artifacts. But gameplay wise, it would have to become very gun-friendly which I doubt many of the fans would like...

So yea definitely would not like to see 1900s in the games, but would still buy it just to find out what the hell happens in the end lol.

wait wha-? We passed the WW2 bridge a while ago... and I wouldn't compare Saboteur to the AC series, felt like a completely different game when I played it.

deadstalk334
08-12-2010, 11:45 PM
French revoulition is one of the best historical time period. Didn't ac1 take place in 1100's then around 300 years after came ac2 so around 1700 then desmond [I honestly have no idea how modern times playsout]. There NEEDS to be a girl assassin. I liked how they used the Italian language for some of the dialog. I knew the Italian dialouge[however you spell it] without the subtitals. I'm Itailian and I know the language to! The story needs to be better then AC2! Not that I didn't like. The last cutscene was awkward. I liked the notority, my personal idea is to add the musketeers as special forces! The templars should hold you captive! Then you escape! Nowc I need to refresh on my French Revouloution memory but I know for a fact there was King Luie the 14th I think. He was a real jerk. You should be able to assassinate him. Your home or momunet shoulb be the Palace of Versaillies. I don't think I would like Edgypt that much.


Deadstalk333

MarSol_18
08-14-2010, 11:02 AM
Louis 16th he was tried and found guilty by jacobins and executed on public display by guillottine. the french revolution could have a cumbersome interface because of the gunpowder reloading. plus the skills of the assassin are useless because one shot from an unskilled soldier will kill him removing the superiority of the assassin...just like the ending scene of The Last Samurai

Lightice1
08-14-2010, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by MarSol_18:
Louis 16th he was tried and found guilty by jacobins and executed on public display by guillottine. the french revolution could have a cumbersome interface because of the gunpowder reloading. plus the skills of the assassin are useless because one shot from an unskilled soldier will kill him removing the superiority of the assassin...just like the ending scene of The Last Samurai

Just like it's totally cumbersome to reload that arm-gun that you have in AC2? Just like the riflemen in the Brotherhood will instantly dispose of Ezio after the game begins? Have you been playing the game at all, or reading the news about the current upcoming sequel?

Also, if you recall the Last Samurai at all, as romanticized and removed from real history as it was, it was the gatling guns that ultimately defeated the Samurai, that were only invented in the late 19th century.

And there were a lot of people in the French Revolution besides Louis XVI and Maximillien Robespierre, and many of the deaths of the time were obsucre enough to justify an Assassin involvement and Templar rewrite of history. Do you think that the characters killed in the games so far all fell to the blade of some unknown killer? They just happened to die in those dates, some naturally, some in battle, very few by an actual assassin.

austin128
08-14-2010, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Lightice1:
Just like it's totally cumbersome to reload that arm-gun that you have in AC2? Just like the riflemen in the Brotherhood will instantly dispose of Ezio after the game begins? Have you been playing the game at all, or reading the news about the current upcoming sequel?
The musket takes way longer to reload than the hidden gun, though (around 30-seconds I believe).
Maybe there could be some sort of advancement by someone you meet in the game, like how Leonardo made the hidden gun when gunpowder wasn't in use, someone else could make a more accurate, faster-loading musket.

And I think you're being a little harsh on MarSol_18.

UBOSOFT-Gamer
08-15-2010, 07:59 AM
Actually 4 videos about rifles

The Matchlock Musket - Used in the english civil war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUE4dzFPFJU

Matchlock musekt - Unlike the first video, here the gun is shooted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KTS8PQ06Qo

How To Fire A Flintlock Musket with 2 missfires at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJn4q4ZJH50

American Independece War Flintlockj Musekt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcFnPRmgYXg

I posted this, to get an idea how it was with matchlock and flintlock systems. There are many more videos in youtube to discover about the history of guns. accuracy, gatlin gun, bullets, rate of fire, etc.

Anyway, but i like the idea of austin128 with "someone you meet in the game, like how Leonardo made the hidden gun when gunpowder wasn't in use, someone else could make a more accurate, faster-loading musket."
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

But i hope, the dev's will put guns minmum for the gameplay in AC3 and beyoend. Mordern guns (from let's say 1870 to 2012) shouldn't be used, imo.

theeric2010
08-15-2010, 07:12 PM
ok i would like to start of by saying if this is consider´d spam or anything like that then could someone just tell me in the comment section(or what ever its called)

Crouching
well um some of you... well maybe most of you might be thinking what the hell is he talking about or something like that well what my problem tends to be is that when sneaking up on guards i either end up running at them(wich means they will hear me) or walking at them(has dum has that sounds)wich means they will probubly(sorry for spelling mistake) turn around and see me Yeah!! they have a habit of doing that.
I think if the game had crouching the it could be something like R3 or L3(on the ps3) to use it and when you run you automaticly stop crouching

EDIT i mean that if the game had crouching guards couldn´t hear you but you could still move.. well faster then you move while walking

Physics
i heard somewhere that the game had improved
physics from the last two games i was just wondering if the ropes or the ah what´s it called. Well basicly everything that's hanging on the playable caracters body etc swords capes and stuff like that just wondering if it would still go trough walls like when ur sitting on bences(sorry for spelling mistake) if you could see for example youre cape(if it where long enough) going trough the bence.

Replay value
when i beat the second assassins creed game i was all like nooooo because i... well i guess i wanted more AC2 so i think it would be awsome if there where templar lairs or maybe replayable assasination contracts(assuming the has that ofcourse) and stuff like that to keep you bussy when the games finnished

Grappeling Hook
well i had this idea for a grappeling hook wich could work something like the hidden pistol but you could use it to climp high walls that you cant wall run up to or just get up to in the first place for example a wall with nothing grabable(again sorry for spelling mistakes) well i doubt it´s gonna be in the game but i figured i might has well post the idea in the forums right?

ligthting
what i mean by that is well ummmmm remember how ac one used to be one of the best looking games on the market even if it was an open world game well ac2 seems to technicly have better graphics but it dosent always look better what i mean by that is when you're standing in the shadows or just some place with no light source ezio sometimes dosent look that good he dosent look bad but not that good either and then take a look at for example the e3 2009 demo for ac2 when ur up on that building that you gotta use the glider to get up to its hard not to think that ezio looks absolutley amazing(i think i spelled that wrong) cuz of all the light that´s shinning on him or for example
this picture
what i mean is that the graphics sometimes look absolutley amazing and sometimes pretty bland i dunno if thats the right word for it tho

some sort of challenge mode
maybe something like deniable ops from splinter cell conviction it could be something like simply assassinating a target in a palace or something like that or doing a special combo.
The reason i want something like that in the game is cuz you couldnt replay ur assassinations in ac2 like you could in ac1 so maybe it could solve that but then again its just an idea

well um i have some more ideas if you guys are intrested(doubt it)
i dont rly think my ideas will end up in the final game but i think its atleast worth posing them on the forums oh and this was my first post btw

EDIT i just wanna say sorry for any spelling mistakes i might have made my mother language isnt english so my grammar isnt that great

EmperorxZurg
08-15-2010, 09:37 PM
okay I'll answer this one!

Crouching
it would be a good mechanic, but I've figured tons of ways to kill a guard before he turns around. It's still possible to do it without so meh

Physics
no clue if they've improved or not....sorry

Replay
the game has TONS to do after the story. Did you complete it 100%? If so, I just replay the whole dang thing. I still enjoy it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Grappling Hook
This isn't Batman. the game has to have a LITTLE realism in it. that would ruin a lot of the mechanics the game's got going

Lighting
that's really just the engine, nothing to be totally done about that...I think

challenge mode
They might put a challenge mode like PoP and SC:C did, but they may also rely on the new mp feature coming out for Brotherhood

your grammar seems pretty spot on for English though (funny how all the non-English speakers seem to do it better than the natural born ones)

PhiIs1618033
08-16-2010, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by d1sturbedme_468:
Grappling Hook
This isn't Batman. the game has to have a LITTLE realism in it. that would ruin a lot of the mechanics the game's got going
Throwing a grappling hook is a realistic mechanic. Shooting one isn't. The hook would have to be made out of solid steel for it to be strong enough, so you'd have to carry that around or have one of your assassins do that for you.

Lightice1
08-16-2010, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by austin128:
The musket takes way longer to reload than the hidden gun, though (around 30-seconds I believe).

Generally at least a minute or two, if you're not a master. But what I was trying to tell was that this is a game, and that it hasn't been realistic to begin with, and if realism gets in the way of fun gameplay, it's going to have to step back.


And I think you're being a little harsh on MarSol_18.

You're both making the mistake of assuming that these games will follow reality, rather than make changes for the sake of style, story and gameplay. There was no such thing as a wrist-mounted six-shooter back in the 15th century, but it didn't prevent the developers from putting one into the game. Brotherhood will have riflemen, who presumably can manage more than one bullet per minute, and won't insta-kill you if they happen to hit.

austin128
08-16-2010, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Lightice1:
You're both making the mistake of assuming that these games will follow reality, rather than make changes for the sake of style, story and gameplay. There was no such thing as a wrist-mounted six-shooter back in the 15th century, but it didn't prevent the developers from putting one into the game. Brotherhood will have riflemen, who presumably can manage more than one bullet per minute, and won't insta-kill you if they happen to hit.
I totally agree with you. That's why I said this: "Maybe there could be some sort of advancement by someone you meet in the game, like how Leonardo made the hidden gun when gunpowder wasn't in use, someone else could make a more accurate, faster-loading musket. "

austin128
08-16-2010, 11:01 AM
@UBOSOFT-Gamer
Thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

@theeric2010
As for replay value, I personally hope that you can replay individual missins, and choose to use either the equipment you had then or the equipment you now have. Also, what about a new-game-plus sort of feature, where you can go through the game with all the armor, equipment, etc. unlocked and kick everyone's butt!

For physics, I'm with you on the clipping (stuff going through stuff it shouldn't).

Lightice1
08-16-2010, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by austin128:

I totally agree with you. That's why I said this: "Maybe there could be some sort of advancement by someone you meet in the game, like how Leonardo made the hidden gun when gunpowder wasn't in use, someone else could make a more accurate, faster-loading musket. "

Are you now talking of the player character, or the guards? Because so far the tech of the world around you is roughly the same as in reality, while you get the fancy anachronistic gear. If you're talking about the player character, giving him a musket would be rather redundant. Muskets are huge and unwieldy weapons that wouldn't fit into the back of a free-runner, and unnecessary when he already has a compact six-shooter on his wrist.

Gunpowder was well in use in the 15th century; the earliest hand-cannons, the most primitive type of hand-held firearms were developed in this period. The riflemen of Brotherhood appear to wield these. In the preview video you can also see Ezio using a cannon; it's loaded in a few seconds by the looks of it, while in real life it could take minutes, since we're talking about a front-loading the thing. It doesn't look like it's any kind of anachronistic super-cannon. It's just a gameplay decision, since it would get boring to watch the actual process from the start to finish again and again.
Cannons incidentally had already been around in Europe for a couple of centuries, though they still weren't good enough to completely replace the catapult.

austin128
08-16-2010, 09:19 PM
@Lightice1
Right there I was talking about the character, but that's a good point about you already having guns. And Leo's probably advanced them since then, since he saw the POE in Battle of Forli.

But yeah, the thing is how to deal with the guns with guards? Make them reload faster and not hurt you as much, or the game give you a warning and them only able to fire one shot, and it take a lot of health, a mix of those two, or something else entirely?

While I'm on the thought of the POE, do y'all think Ezio and the Assassins have been studying it to gain knowledge? That could make up for some of the technological disadvantages of the new technologys of that day.

Z405
08-17-2010, 02:43 PM
Greetings Assassins and Templars,

i hope UbiSoft reads through these forums from time to time, the sole reason why i created this acount and decided to post my opinion on this forum in hopes of that my ideas will be used, or at least given some consideration (if not already implemented in the 3rd installment of this epic game).

I bought Assassins Creed 2 just a couple of days ago, completed it and then out of curiosity bought Assassins Creed 1 to see if the story would be just as compelling as with the second, but also why people would say that alot of annoying factors from AC1 had been improved with AC2.

My opinions and ideas:

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With regards to Assassins Creed part 1, Assassins Creed 2 seemed alot easier. The Enemy AI in part 1 seemed more agressive in terms of grabbing and counter-attacking or removing your own guard/block completely by the special guard breaker move. What i also missed in Assassins Creed 2 (but was present in part 1) and hoping to see in Brotherhood or a 4th AC, would be the massive amount of enemies you could get in combat with as it was in AC1. There was a lot more emphasis on doing battle in AC1 then there was in part 2. AC2 was too easy in comparison since you could beat all enemies (without getting a single scratch) by simply counter-attacking every move they make or side stepping and attacking. This was alot harder in AC1 because the enemy had guard breakers and grab moves. I would suggest bringing back these moves, but if you want to keep it easier for the casual player, install a easy, normal and hard mode where the AI on medium/hard would perform those grab/guard breakers more frequently.

There's another thing which i personally think needs improvement and that would be the lock-on system. I have found this to be somewhat frustrating in some cases, because youd first need to lock-on, before you are able to block. I would like to see AC make a wink/nod towards Ninja Gaiden 2, where the combat system (apart from the horrible camera and cheap grab moves with no counter possible) was almost as good as flawless. In NG2, you dont need to lock-on, just have the ai do this for you, or if you insist on holding lock-on in the game, let me at least BLOCK/GUARD without first needing to lock-on.

(my personal fav idea would be to have an ai-ish lock-on mechanic which can be set in the menu; have a lock-on priority set to enemies with lowest health, or heaviest armour; combine this with an option to set a max of 3 priorities; meaning that if you set heavy armour or guards with spears/halbers as priority 1, once these are destroyed, it will lock-on to a priority 2 target, which could be those with lowest health etc. You might even want to set archers to priority 1, automatically targetting these, take out your throwing knives, let them have it, once they are killed, the lock-on system automatically targets your 2nd priority target and so on.)

Another wink to Ninja Gaiden would be the awesome ability to throw shuriken while moving, or rather jumping. Ive found the throwing knives to be more usefu in AC1 then they are in AC2. Also being able to jump of buildings and throwing those knives in the process or charging your throwing knives before combat has started would make this weapon alot more viable imho, also let the assassin throw knives while hanging from a building; if he can hold his weigth with one hand, he could use the other to throw a knife. That being said, I still think that the dagger/throwing knives combo (from AC1) was a very good choice.

Another wink to Ninja Gaiden 2, would be the ability to actually use enemies as some form of obstacle; jumping on top of them and use them to jump at something else, like a wall jump, but now using the enemy instead of a wall. This could actually be very well combined with a melee-combat dodge ability. Dodging to an area where an enemies stands will allow the Assassin to not dodge away, but jump on top of an enemy, not only dodging the blow by a spectacular acrobatic move, but the enemy that was trying to hit you, might very well kill the enemy you jumped on top of.

In other words heh, please take a good look at the combat system of Ninja Gaiden 2 and try to mimic it, it's imho the best hack and slash combat system ever made, sadly it also has the one of the worst story lines and enviroments ever made. Thats why AC saga is so awesome and it would reach his full pinnacle of supremeness incorporating those NG2 battle mechanics.

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I dont have alot of other comments on the combat, though some more entertaining visually pleasing combo moves would be great.

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There are some quest types which i think are a bit frustrating as well. Certain kill missions where i instantly am desynchronised the moment i am spotted. When approaching an enemy and am spotted and kill him in less than 1 second after it, im still desynchronised, but why? Its not like they have cellphones to let each other know that they are dead, so what they he saw me. Ironically, that same guard, can be shot point blank with his hidden pistol, which makes a hell of a lot of noise, but this, attracts no attention? That somehow seems a little weird. Furthermore, if i one-hit melee kill a guard in sight of another guard, im desynced, but killing a guard with the pistol, while another guard can clearly see this happening i am strangely not desynced. Also, when running through "red" areas, or places where guards can spot me, they have a meter which slowly fills up, but when i exploit the line of sight, they act as if i were never there and dont alarm anything at all. Im hoping this will get a more realistic edit for the future AC's, because it tends to break the "fantasy" part of being an Assassins whom does not want any attention from guards at all.

In the end, im hoping you will skip the whole desynchronisation part in this game, allowing people to play it as they see fit. Afteral, nothing is true; everything is permitted, meaning that i think people should decide themselves to be like a shadow assassin, not seen by anyone, or simply to go head on into combat and if need be, chace your target across the entire town without ever desyncing, well unless you die ofc.

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Just my 2 cents, but im really hoping this will be given some consideration for next AC games.

ps.

The game needs more blood. After killing tons of guards, there is not a single drop of blood on the ground. Nor can i dismember limbs, split torsos in half or chop of heads. Again, something which is superbly done in Ninja Gaiden 2; im hoping to see this in Assassins Creed as well, especially since it already is a 18+ rated game

Thanks for reading/replying and good luck.

Kind regards,

Z405

pss.

a final thought about using potions... i actually found the game to be somewhat more realistic not being able to use potions; lets face it; nowhere in real life and especially not in the year 1500-ish was there some type of concoction which allows you to instantly heal wounds of any kind. Having 15 potions on you, made the game even more ridiculously easy than it already was without enemies guard breaking or grabbing you. Id propose to take out potions completely OR, like suggested before, add potions only to easy mode, mild potions to medium and NO potions in hard mode to appeal to the more hardcore players out there.

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Those are my thoughts, do with them as you wish.

Fairus60
08-17-2010, 03:28 PM
welcome dude!! well, you have some good points and ideas, but this isnt ninja gaiden!!It would kinda make AC lose its own identity. Many of those moves you mention are part of the hack and slash genre, while assassins creed belongs to the stealth/action genre. The only moves I see could fit here would be the blocking without lock on the return of AC1 AI and throwing knives in motion. The difficulty settings would come in handy too, but thats it. Gore to AC would be a nice addition, but this aint one of those japanese games that are haevy in graphic material.
Now, about the "sync" bussiness, since the game´s actual adventure is based on memories, the sync works for you to play the closest to what happened in that memory, so it helps with the game´s inmersion and retain some sort of continuity with the story.
And about choosing to be stealthy or go berserk, thats already on ac2, not in all aspects, but it is already there

austin128
08-18-2010, 02:29 AM
@Z405
Wow, nice post. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I've never played Ninja Gaiden, so I have no idea about how the lock-on works.

I don't think they should make AC too over the top.

I think you're idea about the different difficulties is great. Imo just make the default difficulty use the AC2 rules.

I didn't really like the short sword/throwing knives combo, because I too often threw a knife when I wanted to hit someone. I would like being able to run and throw, though, but maybe you'd have to hold down the button for accuracy. The faster you're going, the more time it takes.

And I think it made since for some enemies not to die from one throwing knife.

About desynchronization: I agree with Fairus60. I think you should have to play it how it how it happened on missions.

Z405
08-18-2010, 03:18 AM
Fairus60 and Austin128 thank you for replying.

With regards to desynchronising (despite i strongly feel i have a good point with regards to "nothing is true, everything is permitted" ;p) i suppose it's ok to be desynced, BUT at least have them adress the issues i mentioned about being desynced when im spotted by a target which i kill within 1 second after being spotted, while on the other hand, aiming with my pistol on a guard, whom has a meter that slowly fills up, does not get me desynchronised and it makes a lot of a noise on top of that. Its mainly these things which i think need to be improved.

As for making the game a little more like Ninja Gaiden 2; there are aready a lot of games which try to do what Ninja Gaiden has done and i cant help but think the combat system of Assassins Creed was also heavily inspired by Ninja Gaiden, perhaps the most because of the counter-attack ability and the Assassin in itself, already being somewhat like a ninja, be it, more Arabic/European. In Holland we have a saying, "beter goed gestolen, dan slecht verzonnen" which roughly translates into "better stolen properly, than badly invented"- sound better in Dutch ;p Anyway, i mean, they should have copied something which is already supreme instead of inventing something which almost feels like it, but not completely isnt. Don't get me wrong, i do like the AC combat mechanics, the are great, but NG2 combat mechanics are close to perfection http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But the latter is simply an opinion, im a huge fan of the NG2 combat system, but the storylines and bosses (mainly the out of place, over the top giant ones) where just not that awesome. Speaking about bosses... ive noticed when playing AC1, the bosses, where somewhat more badass, than the assassination target bosses from AC2. The bosses as well, counter-attacked, guard break and grab moved alot more often than regular enemies. Bosses in AC2, well, the only bosses i count are Dante and Rodrigo, because the rest could be killed with one blow. This could certainly use some pimping as well; more bosses that are actually a challenge to beat.

Dylanawsome
08-18-2010, 07:42 AM
I think they should do another assassin's creed with Ezio once more and in that one he is about 50 years old and he meets Altair and I think that could be possible because in the las Codex page in AC 2 it says that he has extended his life and so there is a possibilty that Altair is hiding somewhere and he might come out to meat Ezio. Please reply if you think this could be a possible game

Cheers.

austin128
08-18-2010, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Z405:
Fairus60 and Austin128 thank you for replying.

With regards to desynchronising (despite i strongly feel i have a good point with regards to "nothing is true, everything is permitted" ;p) i suppose it's ok to be desynced, BUT at least have them adress the issues i mentioned about being desynced when im spotted by a target which i kill within 1 second after being spotted, while on the other hand, aiming with my pistol on a guard, whom has a meter that slowly fills up, does not get me desynchronised and it makes a lot of a noise on top of that. Its mainly these things which i think need to be improved.

As for making the game a little more like Ninja Gaiden 2; there are aready a lot of games which try to do what Ninja Gaiden has done and i cant help but think the combat system of Assassins Creed was also heavily inspired by Ninja Gaiden, perhaps the most because of the counter-attack ability and the Assassin in itself, already being somewhat like a ninja, be it, more Arabic/European. In Holland we have a saying, "beter goed gestolen, dan slecht verzonnen" which roughly translates into "better stolen properly, than badly invented"- sound better in Dutch ;p Anyway, i mean, they should have copied something which is already supreme instead of inventing something which almost feels like it, but not completely isnt. Don't get me wrong, i do like the AC combat mechanics, the are great, but NG2 combat mechanics are close to perfection http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But the latter is simply an opinion, im a huge fan of the NG2 combat system, but the storylines and bosses (mainly the out of place, over the top giant ones) where just not that awesome. Speaking about bosses... ive noticed when playing AC1, the bosses, where somewhat more badass, than the assassination target bosses from AC2. The bosses as well, counter-attacked, guard break and grab moved alot more often than regular enemies. Bosses in AC2, well, the only bosses i count are Dante and Rodrigo, because the rest could be killed with one blow. This could certainly use some pimping as well; more bosses that are actually a challenge to beat.
Totally agree with you about desynching within a second of killing someone (happened to me).

Again, never played Ninja Gaiden, so I can't say anything either way. I personally like AC2's combat system, and they seem to be adding more and more to it!- http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/9101078778 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/9101078778)

And I also agree about the bosses fighting back.
But don't forget about Borgia. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

austin128
08-18-2010, 12:07 PM
@Dylanawsome
Anything's possible, but I don't see that happening, since they want to finish up Desmond's story in the third game.
It could always be a spin-off. Again, I think unlikely, but that's what the forums are for. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And Ezio and altair killing dudes together would be sweet. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

mu4life2010
08-22-2010, 02:06 PM
i don't think you could do assasins creed in the modern day most buildings are far apart, in earlier time periods you could put rope across from building to building in modern day it would have to be electrical wires so they'd shock you.

gsosolid
08-22-2010, 02:11 PM
Well, if you ever looked outside on a street, houses tend to be close by. Some are even JOINT TOGETHER! I KNOW. MADNESS RIGHT?
But I get your point about the larger buildings being too far for a jumping distance, but then again, even in AC1 and AC2, how many times could you jump of a view point onto another building?
Not many. So it's kind of the same.

Goxxi
08-23-2010, 08:48 PM
I think that AC3 might be to take a place in Russia (period before and during the October Revolution)
The main protagonist might be able to collect the "Faberge eggs" and very intresting fact is that famous juvelir Faberge was made exactly 50 eggs in his collection. (So when we gather 2 and 2 we know that instead the plumes the main protagonist might be able to collecting the Faberge eggs)

Also the very intresting character from that period is Raspucin and alot od mysteries goes with him and his life.

Maybe we'll have the mission in the game to carry out the assassination on Raspucin and to throw him out of bridge in Saint Petersburg into the icy Neva river. (Everybody knows how he died and his death was a bigger mystery then his life)

souNdwAve89
08-24-2010, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Goxxi:
I think that AC3 might be to take a place in Russia (period before and during the October Revolution)
The main protagonist might be able to collect the "Faberge eggs" and very intresting fact is that famous juvelir Faberge was made exactly 50 eggs in his collection. (So when we gather 2 and 2 we know that instead the plumes the main protagonist might be able to collecting the Faberge eggs)

Also the very intresting character from that period is Raspucin and alot od mysteries goes with him and his life.

Maybe we'll have the mission in the game to carry out the assassination on Raspucin and to throw him out of bridge in Saint Petersburg into the icy Neva river. (Everybody knows how he died and his death was a bigger mystery then his life)

Well, there's already a comic book series in the works that is following a Russian assassin. I don't think AC3 will have a Russian background. If the comic book series sells well then maybe Ubisoft might reconsider. The chances are kinda slim because since Brotherhood is near completion or already done, Ubisoft is probably brainstorming possible ideas for AC3. I wouldn't be surprised if Ubisoft is already done with AC3's story.

Ru1986
08-27-2010, 01:16 AM
They may not read this but, inreply to the messages sent to me on another thread (now closed), inreply to samward, Im from SE london too Deptford to be exact so not far from your goodself, is bromley not more Kent than London? Also in reply to itsamea-mario i think you are right Londoners are notorious for being proud of were they are from mind you who is'nt i spose you are of which ever Northern town you hail from mate.

samward
08-27-2010, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Ru1986:
They may not read this but, inreply to the messages sent to me on another thread (now closed), inreply to samward, Im from SE london too Deptford to be exact so not far from your goodself, is bromley not more Kent than London?


I suppose it is more Kent the London, per say, but I am fairly sure we are still classified as London....hahah regardless it is only 20 mins to Victoria from here...have to take a trip up to the city this weekend in fact, my mac went all pear shaped on me, after apple released a bugged update.... so are you still in school or are you among the working masses trying to keep them selves afloat in this bloody economy? Oh and did you pre-order yet? Will look forward to playing multi player against you good sir.

D173120T
08-27-2010, 01:08 PM
Given books like "The Holy Blood and Holy Grail,The DaVinci Code" etc and the links between the Templars and the Freemasons,there should be loads of material there.I think If it were set in several countries,i.e. London for England,Edinburgh for Jockanistan.Paris and so on.They all have links to either Freemasons and Teplars.As for the timeline,what about around the 1660's?Planty of stuff happening then to link stories in.I mean us English were even at War with Holland then!Oh,yeah we won as well.LOL

windofpepsi
09-02-2010, 07:28 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif OMG I KNOW WHAT TO ADD IN AC3 U GET TO EXPLORE ALL OF HIS ANCESTORS THERE SHORTER THAN THE MAIN OR MAYBE ITS CAUSE DESMOND PASSES OUT

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killian97
09-03-2010, 01:53 PM
I think that now that he can be an assassin real life, i think that there should be a bit where he chases after people in New York and he has to scale buildings http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I also like the China setting idea... Egypt would be too much like AC1.

itsamea-mario
09-03-2010, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Ru1986:
They may not read this but, inreply to the messages sent to me on another thread (now closed), inreply to samward, Im from SE london too Deptford to be exact so not far from your goodself, is bromley not more Kent than London? Also in reply to itsamea-mario i think you are right Londoners are notorious for being proud of were they are from mind you who is'nt i spose you are of which ever Northern town you hail from mate.

ahahaha, no.
i friggin hate my town. (st helens)
its full of dumb arse meat head. or snotty/gits, can't wait to move out.
probs because my dad was raised in london, so ive always acted a bit like a southener.

anyway back on topic, yeah modern day 'n' stuff.

<span class="ev_code_RED">Please do not bypass the Language Filter</span>

roxylase
09-04-2010, 02:35 AM
I think the idea of French Revolution is great. And as they were thinking of a woman assassin, they could use the story of Charlotte Corday who killed a powerful politician in the time of the Revolution, as an inspiration. You can check her story here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Corday
It would be easier to connect the AC 3 to the previous ones through the French Revolution than through something exotic like Japan or Egypt. And why does Desmond have to travel further back in time, when with every episode he can travel closer to the present!? Other than that, what did the Japanese have against the Templars?Nothing. While, in the 18th century France, the Freemasons have incorporated some Templar symbols and rituals, so the main reason of the assassinations would still be kept.
I think it would be very interesting to see a french female assassin fighting against the remains of the Templar Order in the Assassin's Creed 3.

LaCava1
09-08-2010, 09:52 PM
You know, guys, I was always thinking that AC3 would take place in 2012 with Desmond searching for the temples. I was thinking four player co-op, with people playing as Desmond, Lucy, Rebecca, and Shawn.

Markie577
09-09-2010, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by Pdavis3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bullet747:
I think it would be cool if it took place in multiple timelines with different ancestors of Desmond and in different area's around the world. Egypt, Japan(Kyoto or Tokyo), New York, London etc. Maby an ancestor would run into Jack the Ripper in London. Oh the possibilities

They would also have different skill sets based on their situation

Thats too much. I highly doubt they would do that. But having the game take place in two locations would be great. Lets say Desmond goes to Egypt in the Animus. and Ubisoft makes a coop story to the game where u play as two brother assassins that go into the animus together and relive the lives of their brother ancestors in Japan or anywhere really.. Ubisoft can go anywhere they want, i just hope they don't make it into a shooter game. And they need to make the game more stealthy. How do i fail a don't be detected mission when the guy i killed didn't even scream or pull out his weapon? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know if this has been adressed yet but the mountain you saw in the thruth video wasn't mt Fuji..

It resembled more mt Kilimanjaro.
Kilimanjaro (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Mt._Kilimanjaro_12.2006.JPG)
Mt Fuji (http://ikudo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/images/Mt%20Fuji%20Oct.jpg)



Greetz

Mr_Shade
09-09-2010, 04:54 AM
oooh

FrankieSatt
09-09-2010, 06:46 AM
Since the other thread is closed, I'll say it again here.

UbiSoft has built a box around AC and it's Desmond and the Animus. Once that story line is complete there is no need for any more AC games and it doesn't make sense for there to be any need for the Animus any more.

Someone in the other thread said I sounded disappoitned about that, and I am.

AC is a great series. I've played the first 2 games and I'll be buying Brotherhood when it comes out. What UbiSoft should have done is make these games about Altair and Ezio and the Assassin's and the Templars and not introduced Desmond and the Animus and that story line with Abstergo.

In any case, I don't see there being a beyond. It wouldn't make sense unless they stretch out Desmond's story across even more multiple games and that will grow old soon.

John_Suarz555
09-09-2010, 04:23 PM
okay, youre gonna like this ubisoft. obviously in AC3, we will have to jump into the french revolution because that is where the templars emerge into becoming the freemasons. also, desmond will have the bleeding effect and will be able to control it without it killing him. this way, you are able to go back into the past without the animus and at the same time be on the future looking for the other temples. think of it as a half screen mode in which u will see the future and the past. i would love it if you are able to jump into different times and not just the french revolution, that way, we will find all the temples. the main theme should definitely be the end of the world in 2012 and desmond should be used more than using the animus. the freemasons are the templars, they want a new world order and with the pieces of eden, they want to control the world, the problem is that we need all the pieces to save the world from a solar flare that will bring our end unless the assassins find all the temples. nothing is true, everything is permitted...

rain89c
09-09-2010, 11:22 PM
I want AC3 set somewhere in East Asia, I like the ancient East Asian atmosphere. And AC2 brotherhood looks more and more like a Ninja game now, look at the random Assassins popping out of nowhere from the sky.
And the groups of Assassins climbing the building.
I think this game is steering towards the direction of Ninjas and Samurais (which I would really love, because Ancient Japan and China cities and atmosphere would feel so right for an Assassin's Creed game).

If it took place in East Asia, I hope we get to play as a Ninja, since its pretty much the iconic Assassin image from the far East. We will also get new weapons such as shuriken, katarusaga (rope knife), katana, staffs, and glaives, spears, and even new clothing, or the traditional black Ninja cloths.

New cities, beautiful Japanese zen gardens, new Buddhist temples, new sceneries, Geishas, Shaolin monks.
Some of the cities I would love to see in ancient times are Hanzhou, Kyoto, and Suzhou.

The game could take place some kind of Historical Chinese/Japanese conflicted Era. I'm sure there are plenty, I'm not a familiar with East Asian history, so a game set there would allow me to learn some of it =D.


I would not want AC3 to take place in Europe again, because there will be 2 games that's going to be set in there.
And the repetitive nature in Europe for AC3 would just bore me to death.
Dont get me wrong, I love the European atmosphere, but I want a fresh new exotic setting for AC3.
Repetitiveness is not the way to go.

Akasha_Ishtar
09-10-2010, 01:12 AM
How about going back to Ancient Egypt what a beautiful setting that would be for sure, there is even already a character set up for these times, Amunet I mean come on I’m sure lots of us would love to see how Des would react to having to been a woman...lol!!! She is in one of the most amazing times in history for Egypt, there are so many major figures that could be put into the game, before Cleopatra is found and after we have Julius Caesar and Mark Antony (who of course later becomes Cleopatra’s lover) in Egypt, you will of course have Ptolemy XIII who was Cleo’s younger brother an co ruler. Much later on in the game you could have Amunet work with Gaius Octavian (who became Augustus, the first Roman Emperor) in a plot to take out Antony and Cleopatra as he known for been quite cunning and was in Egypt at the time of their deaths. Anyway that’s just my idea, the Egyptologist in me going a bit nuts...hehe.

rain89c
09-10-2010, 02:09 PM
One of the beauty about the AC series is that the setting is set in old ancient cities and landscapes.
You really feel you're in 1200 and 1400 AC.
AC2's setting was reaching the point where the cities were too modern, and it did not feel as beautiful than AC1.
What I worry is that AC3 will be even more modern and the beauty of the ancient cities will be less existent.
AC2 Brotherhood already seems similar in terms of age compared to AC2, so too late to complain for that game. So I speak for the 3rd sequel of AC.

souNdwAve89
09-10-2010, 07:29 PM
I disagree because I thought AC2 was beautiful and captured how Italy was at the time. You are right about the setting in AC1 because it did feel like you were in that time period, but the same goes for AC2. I think AC3 will continue to be the same as the past games. We don't even know any details on AC3 yet. Considering how AC3 is the last game of the trilogy, they need to fit in both Desmond and his ancestor in perfectly.

Son_of_n0ne
09-12-2010, 03:26 AM
It seems like im the only person who believes that AC3 will finish the series?
(it should, anything past a trilogy is usually beaten into the ground. Oh and Brotherhood doesnt really count as part of the trilogy, IMO.)
Also I see a ton of people thining that the game will take place in europe/asia. I personally believe that it will be more modern day based and in South America. I mean Des does have to find these 'temples' which can mean anything at this point, but I mean with this game dealing with the end of the world and all it is likely we may see some Mayan temples..? Just a thought..
Also, I remember watchin a dev diary for AC2 and I think it was a writer who said that if the technology could support it he could likely see some assassins in a jungle setting. Climbing trees and such.. May not be word for word but thats the general sentiment... Anyway thoughts ideas predictions anything?? Lemme know. I love talkin AC with fans!!!

Ivcha5
09-15-2010, 08:51 AM
I have been thinking...can it be possible that AC3 could be placed in Desmond's hands and Desmond's hands only without the animus,Ezio or whatever and how he kills templars in present time and stops the global cataclysm?It's just a thought and I would like your opinion guys about this...

breakdown89
09-15-2010, 10:43 AM
well it would only make sense, considering the fact that desmond was trained to be an assassin by using the animus 2.0 in AC2.....so a "desmond's creed" game should be in order for the conclusion of the series.....but that's just me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Muttley001
09-17-2010, 04:31 AM
A future idea:

I would highly support an idea if one found out a Japanese family predecessor of Ezio's in the medieval years.

A similarly detailed next AC game, where the medieval Japan is as detailed as Italy in the current games, and we would get to know samurais, hatamotos, daimyos, Shogun and Ezio being the most formidable stealth warrior of those ages - a shadow warrior. We could follow up with his growing up how he becomes a ninja.

Who else supports this idea?

RangerRico
09-17-2010, 10:40 PM
My suggestions for AC3

1-since there are't any big differences between the short and the long blade, maybe make the long blade more powerful, and have a free hand for the short blade. The free hand would be used for disarming, fighting on a wall. Also holding two 1-handed weapons at once would be cool, and would be great for combos.

2-fighting on walls and narrow pathways would be nice. There have been many times when I wished I could throw knife or shoot the gun while i was on the wall. short blade wold also be good for wall fighting. Also, I always thought i was annoying that you cant use and blades while on a narrow pathway between roofs or on thin walls.

3-A grapple hook would be fun. I don't expect it , but it would be cool. If it was included it could only really fit into the modern time frame. I love the concept that you can get to a far off spot in nearly an instant. If AC3 is modern, it would really help in climbing skyscrappers, being able to climb up more quickly and as a safty net if you fall by accident. There would have to have to have a range restricion to prevent it from being cheap. It could also double as a weapon, like a whip, or something to pull enimies towards you.

4-If AC3 is modern, deffinatly, needs guns, but it still needs to be big on mele combat. Two guns that would be good for it would be a sniper and a small,silenced gun. It would probably replace the throwing knives since they would be out-dated for the time period. But again, the game needs to be primarily mele combat.

5-Personally I dont care where the next Assassins Creed takes place, but i would like to play as one more assassin in the animus before I play as Desmond.Two places that I like the best are India and the French Revolution. It will be interesting to see what Ubisoft comes up with for AC3.

6-It always seemd unrealistic to me that guards never remembered you, even if you weren't notorious. So i would like to see them have a more realistic memory, and disquises/ alternative outfits to help them forget your face. This would allow much more customization. Mabey a civilian outfit that never becomes notourious but has many weapon restrictions. I also liked wearing the guard outfit when you had to deliver the apple to Rodrigo Borgia, and would like to see it agian.

7-I dont want those little task like the race and the assassination contracts to disappear once you've completed them.They're kinda dumb, but it gives you something to do once youv beatten the game. Mabey add more types of those side missions.

8-A multiplayer that isnt what is shown for the brother hood trailers. That type of multiplayer would be included, but Im talking about a pointless co-op mode, meaning it could be split-screen or online and it you be you and however many people would playing, running around whereever AC3 will take place.

Caligula__
09-17-2010, 10:53 PM
you've already posted exactly that... and the thread you made to post it got closed

Edit - Here's (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/3311040288?r=3311040288#3311040288) the site if you wanna see Rico's "marvelous" adventures http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

thekyle0
09-17-2010, 11:34 PM
Why shouldn't he re-post it in the proper thread? Mind you, one which he was immediately linked to.

I seemed to notice a post of your own in that repeat thread. One which was off-topic, no less. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Caligula__
09-17-2010, 11:44 PM
nah, cause by the time I'd seen it, it was already off topic and on the AC3 topic...

UBOSOFT-Gamer
09-17-2010, 11:50 PM
i think it would best if the devs do a large visit of different locations around the globe in different times of world history, only Medieval Japan should untouched and WW2, for the setting to play in.

For the piece of eden-story or glyphes, ww2 can be in the game, but not to play in.

op_enihsnus
09-20-2010, 02:46 PM
I still stand by my idea that 19th Century Shanghai would be a great setting for the game. Through the Assassin's Creed series, Ubisoft hopes to explore environments not visited in other games. Eastern asian history have not been explored in great detail or true to history much in the past. Setting the third installement of the AC series in Shanghai would allow for a fresh feel and look to the game. The layout of the city and the government in 19th century Shanghai would allow for a great storyline. The clustered building of the area also allow for the beloved AC free running style game play...plus...you can throw in some good old kung fu in there too...as long as the kills are epic. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Keksus
09-20-2010, 03:51 PM
only Medieval Japan should untouched and WW2, for the setting to play in.

Why do so many people don't want AC3 to be set in Japan or WW2?

Really. Japan has a very interesting history, culture and architecture. I'd would love to see it in an AC game.

And WW2. This is AC. If the game is set in WW2 you OBVIOUSLY wouldn't fight at the frontline, but in cities. Maybe cities untouched by the war.

A japansetting would be my favorite. Even though I think we will spend a lot more time with Desmond in the present. I doubt that there will be another long part set in the past.

fossa1991
09-20-2010, 05:35 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if u in AC3 or another game in the future that u play as desmond.
And u are searching for like a piece of eden and u come to an locked door that opens with an ancient combination.The only thing u need to do then is visit one of you ancestors and find it out somehow.That would be a really nice balance between different times.

rain89c
09-20-2010, 06:37 PM
I prefer 11-12th century AC China over Japan.
Here's what I want to my assassin to free roam and experience city life in, Song capital Kaifeng in 1152 AC:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7937/songcitylife2.png (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/songcitylife2.png/)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/508/songcitylife.png (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/songcitylife.png/)


Beautiful...
its an actual 12th century painting.
you can see camels near merchant stands, and merchants dealing, scholars, monks and robes, horses, carriages, boats, cargo ships, river and bridges, and just all around a really realistic ripe city life feel of the ancient times.
I really hope Ubisoft brings a city that is similar to this to life with graphics similar to AC1's graphic (where post processing is off, you can see the actual structures'/civilians' texture and detail at maximum at a far away distance)

Keksus
09-21-2010, 08:08 AM
I prefer 11-12th century AC China over Japan.

Well, afaik there's almost no difference between the architecture and culture of china and japan.

rain89c
09-21-2010, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Keksus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I prefer 11-12th century AC China over Japan.

Well, afaik there's almost no difference between the architecture and culture of china and japan. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I dont mind either Japan or China as they share much similarities. Just like how Rome share the same similarities with Florence and the rest of Europe, I think we can all agree that Rome looks familar compared to Florence, Venice, and Forli. The core difference between them being the core landmarks such as the Colliseum and others likewise.
We need something brand new in AC3, I pray for ancient East Asia/ ancient India, Egypt (from priority to least).

RandomRansom
09-21-2010, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
I want AC3 set somewhere in East Asia, I like the ancient East Asian atmosphere. And AC2 brotherhood looks more and more like a Ninja game now, look at the random Assassins popping out of nowhere from the sky.
And the groups of Assassins climbing the building.
I think this game is steering towards the direction of Ninjas and Samurais (which I would really love, because Ancient Japan and China cities and atmosphere would feel so right for an Assassin's Creed game).

If it took place in East Asia, I hope we get to play as a Ninja, since its pretty much the iconic Assassin image from the far East. We will also get new weapons such as shuriken, katarusaga (rope knife), katana, staffs, and glaives, spears, and even new clothing, or the traditional black Ninja cloths.

New cities, beautiful Japanese zen gardens, new Buddhist temples, new sceneries, Geishas, Shaolin monks.
Some of the cities I would love to see in ancient times are Hanzhou, Kyoto, and Suzhou.

The game could take place some kind of Historical Chinese/Japanese conflicted Era. I'm sure there are plenty, I'm not a familiar with East Asian history, so a game set there would allow me to learn some of it =D.


I would not want AC3 to take place in Europe again, because there will be 2 games that's going to be set in there.
And the repetitive nature in Europe for AC3 would just bore me to death.
Dont get me wrong, I love the European atmosphere, but I want a fresh new exotic setting for AC3.
Repetitiveness is not the way to go.

I'm with you on this. I think they, with the rich story and history of the game, have a lot of potential for... not really prequels, but having to explore the more distant past to find lost artifacts or those... temples that Minerva spoke of. I mean, we don't have to follow the apple all the time. Heck, the Chinese developed gun powder long before those in the west had it (if memory serves). That particular codex (the wrist gun) could have come from China or Japan. And the sword play and martial arts would be killer (pun intended).

Anyway, long story short, I'm definitely up for a major change in scenery. Heck, a female ninja assassin would be pretty cool. It would be interesting to see Desmond's reaction to being one of his female ancestors. A creative use of the silk routes/road could obliterate any possible lineage inconsistencies. It's been around for a long time and connect Asia minor to the far east for trade (the silk road connects to areas around Altair and even Egypt for a connection to that popular location too).

As a side note, did you know the "traditional" ninja black wasn't always what they wore? Depending on the environment they were in, they'd change clothes. I mean, if it's winter out, you can easily spot the ninja all in black against the white snow. Maybe they could incorporate a few changes in clothing color that AREN'T just aesthetic. It would be similar to Metal Gear Solid 3 (but not exactly) with the cammo (a new and different way of blending?).

I like the non-linearity of games these days, and I love having back stories filled in to give more meaning to the original games. Imagine if something that happened in Japan and Egypt shaped what happened to Altair?

I don't care if people say that Ninjas are overdone in assassin type games. They stay around for a reason: their iconic nature. I'd think to ignore Asian assassins would be much more of a gross oversight than utilizing them in a game series about assassins would be. Especially hooded assassins that run around on rooftops... how could you NOT go in that direction? I know I want them to, and it looks like I'm not alone (posts and artwork as evidence).

RandomRansom
09-22-2010, 09:42 AM
Adding to my above post.

If they went with the female ninja assassin, then there could be some fun with her pretending to be a geisha for a certain or multiple missions. Perfect social blending but annoying npc attention to the hot chick walking through the streets.

I still love this idea as a way to use varied outfit colors (and maybe even outfits with geisha being one of them) to blend better or worse. That would be an interesting gameplay addition.

And the female character would open some pretty neat avenues as well. Who would suspect the woman in an era and country where women are considered second class citizens?

The more I think about this avenue for AC to go, the more I like it. The Silk Road/Routes allowing for the commerce thing to continue in the game. The gunpowder allowing that aspect to stick in the game (and giving a back-story to it). You can even utilize the ninja clans the same way you utilize the brotherhood. The introduction of new features: adaptive blending with color and outfit changes, slightly more in depth hand to hand with martial arts, etc. A new location and different atmosphere...

Even if it's just set in China/Japan with ninja and samurai in the area (and not the main character assassin), it would be cool. Maybe the Assassins from farther west are reaching out to the Ninjas of the east? Who knows. Maybe the ninjas slowly bring the assassin into their ranks and trust as the Templars try to take over the area. That even works with ninja clans being used as brotherhood members (you save or prove yourself to ninja clans to gain more members to aid you). So many ways to go with it.

I'm having fun just thinking about it.

rain89c
09-22-2010, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by RandomRansom:
Adding to my above post.

If they went with the female ninja assassin, then there could be some fun with her pretending to be a geisha for a certain or multiple missions. Perfect social blending but annoying npc attention to the hot chick walking through the streets.

I still love this idea as a way to use varied outfit colors (and maybe even outfits with geisha being one of them) to blend better or worse. That would be an interesting gameplay addition.

And the female character would open some pretty neat avenues as well. Who would suspect the woman in an era and country where women are considered second class citizens?

The more I think about this avenue for AC to go, the more I like it. The Silk Road/Routes allowing for the commerce thing to continue in the game. The gunpowder allowing that aspect to stick in the game (and giving a back-story to it). You can even utilize the ninja clans the same way you utilize the brotherhood. The introduction of new features: adaptive blending with color and outfit changes, slightly more in depth hand to hand with martial arts, etc. A new location and different atmosphere...

Even if it's just set in China/Japan with ninja and samurai in the area (and not the main character assassin), it would be cool. Maybe the Assassins from farther west are reaching out to the Ninjas of the east? Who knows. Maybe the ninjas slowly bring the assassin into their ranks and trust as the Templars try to take over the area. That even works with ninja clans being used as brotherhood members (you save or prove yourself to ninja clans to gain more members to aid you). So many ways to go with it.

I'm having fun just thinking about it.
omg, i love this. sounds really fun!

RangerRico
09-22-2010, 09:52 PM
How about a travling assassin, going to different cities, assassinating templars and their leaders in different parts of the world. It seems kinda unrealalistic, but that way we get some of everything.

rain89c
09-22-2010, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by RangerRico:
How about a travling assassin, going to different cities, assassinating templars and their leaders in different parts of the world. It seems kinda unrealalistic, but that way we get some of everything.
nah, i would rather visit a complete quality lively city than just a block of a city.

Caligula__
09-22-2010, 11:38 PM
i'd just like an good/evil meter which is basically another part of the Synchronicity meter

If you wanna get full Synchronicity then you've gotta be good or so-so

But you can be fully good (which means ppl respond to you differently)

Or you can be evil (and people respond to you differently)



Eg. "You're walking down a street and a group of guards are next to you"

Good - Guards attack you
Evil - Guards are a bit more lenient and won't immediately attack you

Eg. "You go into a shop"

Good - You get a discount
Evil - Prices are doubled but you can hold the store up and steal stuff

Eg.

You have to kill a really bad boss

Good - You kill him
Evil - You side with him


(Kinda like RDR but more so, also like Star Wars KotoR 2 where you can influence your mates)

RandomRansom
09-23-2010, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:

omg, i love this. sounds really fun!

Thanks, I think so too. It also allows the AC world to become more global. All they'd need was a South American AC or Mexico or US or Canadian AC to make sure even another continent is included. That would be truly global, diverse, and follow in suit with the story/map from AC and ACII

RandomRansom
09-23-2010, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RangerRico:
How about a travling assassin, going to different cities, assassinating templars and their leaders in different parts of the world. It seems kinda unrealalistic, but that way we get some of everything.
nah, i would rather visit a complete quality lively city than just a block of a city. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I agree. It would also make re-visiting those locations to allow for maximum playability of the map without having to stay there the entire time. It makes traveling back to that location incongruous. However, if that is the final section of one of the last games (e.g. Desmond traveling around the world to locations he needs to, from his ancestors' past... temple place thingies) with little need to go back to them later in the game, then that's a different story. Then it would be cool to see how they've changed.

RangerRico
09-23-2010, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by rain89c:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RangerRico:
How about a travling assassin, going to different cities, assassinating templars and their leaders in different parts of the world. It seems kinda unrealalistic, but that way we get some of everything.
nah, i would rather visit a complete quality lively city than just a block of a city. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I never said It would have to only a section of a city, I actully ment full cities. The only downside to that is tat it would take longer to make the game if they came out with a bunch of full cities all overthe contient, world, whatever. The only way I really see something like that happening is if it is with Desmond since he will have access to technology like planes, even if its not a private jet. It would also make more sense since he has to activate the temples from the first civilization.

EzioAssassin51
09-23-2010, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Vx_McTavish_xV:
i'd just like an good/evil meter which is basically another part of the Synchronicity meter

If you wanna get full Synchronicity then you've gotta be good or so-so

But you can be fully good (which means ppl respond to you differently)

Or you can be evil (and people respond to you differently)



Eg. "You're walking down a street and a group of guards are next to you"

Good - Guards attack you
Evil - Guards are a bit more lenient and won't immediately attack you

Eg. "You go into a shop"

Good - You get a discount
Evil - Prices are doubled but you can hold the store up and steal stuff

Eg.

You have to kill a really bad boss

Good - You kill him
Evil - You side with him


(Kinda like RDR but more so, also like Star Wars KotoR 2 where you can influence your mates)

Sorry Mc, but no...

First of all, why would the guards be more tolerant of you if you're evil and attack you if you're good.

Plus, it wouldn't work with the Animus. The Ancestor couldn't have memories of being good and then have alternate memories of being evil!


Moral choice wouldn't work in AC IMO, at least as long as they have the Animus!