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Gbucket
10-11-2004, 10:01 AM
Today we have launched a brand new section for the Pacific Fighters website detailing the background of Pacific Fighters, IL2, and explaining how it all started. This section will be updated weekly with pages written by Oleg Maddox, Ilya Shevchenko, and others. Every Monday the section will be updated and this week we're talking about the IL-2 Sturmovik Line of Flight Sims and how it all began.

http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/images/fi-156_s.jpg (http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/history.php)http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/images/U-2VS_s.jpg (http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/history.php)http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/images/fb_db-3m_1939_s.jpg (http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/history.php)

aminx
10-11-2004, 11:21 AM
surprised that only 1,2 million approx copies sold so far.I will take this liberty to guess that PF will sell double that number even without flyable hystorical torp planes so far.Eventually if the torp planes including the missing Devastator become flyable,then it will sell even more and for a long period of time ,remember my words.
aminx

VW-IceFire
10-11-2004, 12:27 PM
Well...1.2 million is an excellent number for a niche market piece of software like this.

Other titles that I've followed have sold maybe 250,000 at best. Or under 160,000.

Hopefully some of that 1.2 million will be returning customers for later titles. Thats what keeps this genre alive.

crazyivan1970
10-11-2004, 09:32 PM
Nice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

1.2 Million is huge for flight sim. Maybe average for FPS games...but for flight sims it`s an acheivement.

Bearcat99
10-11-2004, 10:04 PM
Wow!! Im just seeing this.... this is great...

II_JG1Hartmann
10-11-2004, 11:25 PM
650,000 in Russia alone? Didnt think there were that many computers in the country?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

LW_Icarus
10-12-2004, 03:23 AM
I think if you could stop all the piracy, that sales number would be considerably higher, I wish I had a nickel for all the times someone logged on to Ubi either looking to download it or talking about just downloading it.


the best solution seems to me to be a CD key that is required for online play. novalogic put out Joint Ops, with a cd key, and without having to have the CD in the drive to play. nigh on impossible to play it online without a purchased copy.

FltLt_HardBall
10-12-2004, 04:54 AM
In order to sell anything in Russia the retail price needs to be around US$2.00 - bearing in mind the average wage in Russia is around $30, so it's not as fantastic as it looks.

Still, Oleg gets to sell it directly in Russia, so he doesn't have to give a cut to Ubi, iirc.
By Russian standards he's probably getting by OK. Let's hope so, anyway. The man will retire a millionaire if there's any justice in the world.

crazyivan1970
10-12-2004, 07:02 AM
If i remember correctly, price of the game in russia was somewhat 10 bucks and gold edition, with t-shirt and book was $19.

Right now prices dropped and you can purchase IL2 original for $3 and FB for $6.50 and AEP for $4

SKULLS Virga
10-12-2004, 08:47 AM
That ends up to be nowhere near the income Oleg and Co. deserve.

Cajun76
10-12-2004, 04:02 PM
There's a T-shirt? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I might be interested in that.

VW-IceFire
10-12-2004, 04:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKULLS Virga:
That ends up to be nowhere near the income Oleg and Co. deserve. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah but consider the monetary value and the price that consumers there are willing to pay and its probably quite average.

Prices for games are definately set based on the market that they are sold in. Its a bit different in the EU, in the US, and then in Canada. So I'm not surprised that its $10 US in Russia.

crazyivan1970
10-12-2004, 04:19 PM
I believe gold packages of FB were sold in Moscow only...

aminx
10-14-2004, 10:20 AM
FURTHER TO PIRACY
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when i lived in South America i saw piracy everywhere, Brasil,Paraguay every household or office, business was full of immitations, copies, all the way down to household utilities.
all the software, games etc was copies made in China or in Paraguay.
aminx