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AtomicRunt
06-17-2004, 04:15 AM
Well with half the servers in H-L running the leaked version, and all this speculation on what has been changed. How about some Official Word from UBI(or othewise) about the state of the Official Patch?? I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to let those that are waiting and haven't installed 2.2 on the progress of the actual patch.

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AtomicRunt
06-17-2004, 04:15 AM
Well with half the servers in H-L running the leaked version, and all this speculation on what has been changed. How about some Official Word from UBI(or othewise) about the state of the Official Patch?? I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to let those that are waiting and haven't installed 2.2 on the progress of the actual patch.

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Monson74
06-17-2004, 04:17 AM
bumpy

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ASM 1
06-17-2004, 04:23 AM
yeah

don't mean to whine but some official word OTHER than "Use Leaked patch at your own risk" would be nice, even a "Sorry but we've had to delay release for another X days/weeks because of some last minute changes" would be fair enough. As it is, the silence is deafening - not to mention, more than a little annoying - esp since the "leak" is all over the place as AtomicRunt said....

and no I don't have the leak - usually I do, but this time I thought I'd wait.....
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Huxley_S
06-17-2004, 04:36 AM
Flyable Ju88s I'll wager http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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Maple_Tiger
06-17-2004, 04:57 AM
Who said it was a leaked patch?


The last time i downloaded and installed a leake beta patch was like 5 months ago i think. The thing was, that it said Beta lol. I think it was the 1.2 leaked beta, you know when we first got the P-51D.

Every time i load up version 2.02, i don't see beta V 2.02.

My point is that i think it's the actualy 2.02 patch. It's just that there might be curtain date for wich it is suppose to be released.

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ASM 1
06-17-2004, 05:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Huxley_S:
Flyable Ju88s I'll wager http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
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Now there's a thought LOL! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

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VVS-Manuc
06-17-2004, 05:10 AM
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ASM 1
06-17-2004, 05:28 AM
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Nice one Manuc

could think of a few others... nah better not bite the hand that feeds us too much...

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Tvrdi
06-17-2004, 05:28 AM
well, with BoB and PF "on the door" they were caught on sleep for FB....the care is less for FB now..but its amazing how they found precious time for leaked patch warning and not for f****** patch info and date of release.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/smileys-gun2.gif

LeRoyal
06-17-2004, 05:41 AM
Still wondering why the official Patch wasn't released yet? Here's why: The UBI marketing department had a brilliant idea shortly before the release. Expect to see this at your favorite game store soon:

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nearmiss
06-17-2004, 06:48 AM
It's everywhere, it's everywhere...the patch that is.

There you have it. A pattern is emerging.

Someone supposedly leaks a patch. Everyone gets it and the forum boards reverberate with their complaints, issues or praise. Ubi plays dumb, but follows the boards closely for things missed in the patch.

Then the devs get a fix on issues not resolved. Then the patch is fixed, tweaked, straightened out or what have you, and Ubi releases the final.

Just a little refinement of the beta testing, before release.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it makes sense. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif

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Tully__
06-17-2004, 06:53 AM
It's not Ubi's fault it was leaked. I'm betting on the beta team being trimmed even further if 1C:Maddox can trace the source http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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nearmiss
06-17-2004, 07:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
It's not Ubi's fault it was leaked. I'm betting on the beta team being trimmed even further if 1C:Maddox can trace the source http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Before someone gets all bent out of shape... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif

Who really cares about leaked versions? I think there should be more beta testers, then more things would be resolved with the patch. Putting up a beta patch for everyone would be even better. Beta versions of code is a big item in development of all software. Betas are all over development sites. The biggest problem with betas as some of the devs never get outta beta. They just keep working on perfection...and betas drag on indefintely.

I enjoy reading all the new poop about the patch version at no risk to myself. You see, I'm not about to load a "leaked" beta or other and mess up my system...for nuttin'.

Everyone knows they're taking a risk on using leaked patches. So...1C:Maddox, Ubi, Oleg or anyone else can quit worrying about leaked patches for my part.


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Capt._Tenneal
06-17-2004, 08:18 AM
Which is the bigger outrage : the leaked 2.02 patch or the theft of the Half-Life 2 source codes ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Looks like they're running neck & neck here.

It's not Ubi's fault it was leaked. I'm betting on the beta team being trimmed even further if 1C:Maddox can trace the source

My thoughts exactly. Looks like some beta testers will be taken to Lubyanka prison and "disappear". Heh heh !

WOLFMondo
06-17-2004, 08:32 AM
Aren't the external models of the A20, Beaufighter and the cockpit of the Ju88 done? Maybe its being delayed because of those? I'd gladly wait for the those 3.

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PF_Talus
06-17-2004, 08:49 AM
Let's not make them rush this patch. We know what happens when they do that!


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nearmiss
06-17-2004, 08:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Aren't the external models of the A20, Beaufighter and the cockpit of the Ju88 done? Maybe its being delayed because of those? I'd gladly wait for the those 3.

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http://www.wolfgaming.net<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right on, they can delay if they like. Especially if we're gonna get more stuff. This may be it (last patch) for AEP, especially with PF to be released in the next couple months.

Oleg has already indicated they're up to their tails in alligators as it is.

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SeaFireLIV
06-17-2004, 08:54 AM
My theory is that the BASIC leaked patch is complete. I believe the basic patch has all the FM changes and corrections to AI etc that were needed... BUT it was meant to have EXTRA stuff, like flyable bombers, or extra fighters perhaps. But whoever it was decided to leak the `complete` basic package.

This is possibly why the patch leaked is not labelled a Beta. THAT PART IS COMPLETE, but it was waiting for the extra models.

This is my theory anyway.

Still not D\L until official. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Capt._Tenneal
06-17-2004, 08:59 AM
Hmmm, so &lt;speculation here&gt; if it was delayed to include last minute flyables or even AI planes, then it wouldn't be 18-20 MB in size like those who d'loaded the leak said. Most likely it's another 75 MB patch.

mortoma
06-17-2004, 09:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maple_Tiger:
Who said it was a leaked patch?


The last time i downloaded and installed a leake beta patch was like 5 months ago i think. The thing was, that it said Beta lol. I think it was the 1.2 leaked beta, you know when we first got the P-51D.

Every time i load up version 2.02, i don't see beta V 2.02.

My point is that i think it's the actualy 2.02 patch. It's just that there might be curtain date for wich it is suppose to be released.

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No Maple, you are a little wrong here. The official version will be mostly like this leak, but I know for a fact there will be at least minor changes in some stuff. One being I got Starshoy to make minor changes to the Dgen campaign for a certain plane by making a little complaint about something over at Simhq. This was after the leak and he said it will be implemented in the final official version, as he had time to get it in. So it will a hair different at least as far as including a slightly updated version of the Dgen.exe program file. The leaked version does not have Dgen.exe in it at all. So blame guys like me for some small delays. I won't say what the change will be as it's not a big deal kind of change.

NegativeGee
06-17-2004, 09:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ASM 1:
ASM 1
Hey, look what i got..
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So, what have you got then? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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Huxley_S
06-17-2004, 09:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The leaked version does not have Dgen.exe in it at all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It does actually! Date Modified 09/06/2004 and NGen too.

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NetDaemon
06-17-2004, 09:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Huxley_S:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The leaked version does not have Dgen.exe in it at all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It does actually! Date Modified 09/06/2004 and NGen too.

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hughlb2
06-17-2004, 09:31 AM
I'm trying to work out the time of day the patch would be released. Going by the "Community Time" is that the same timezone as whoever releases the patch. Because as I post this, its comming up to 0830 community time and the ubi offices (if they are same timezone) would be getting to work, so maybe the patch today, from now on, maybehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Capt._Tenneal
06-17-2004, 09:33 AM
What version of 3do(x).sfs is in the leaked patch ? Patch 2.01 was up to 3do7.sfs, is it now 3do8.sfs ?

mortoma
06-17-2004, 09:57 AM
Yep, you are right, it does have that file, sorry.
But now it will have yet another slightly changed one thanks to me.

SeaFireLIV
06-17-2004, 10:02 AM
Damn, Mortoma, wish i could get on that site and post. there`s a few things I`d like to remind Starshoy of.

Like can he get offline Dynamic DGEN missions with flyable TB3/I16 combinations... and why isn`t there a demotion/courtmartial when you shoot 3 or more friendlies?

One day i will get to him, oh yes, I will....

mortoma
06-17-2004, 07:08 PM
Seafire, Another change I had Starshoy make was to include the newer model of the TB3 ( without the I-16s ) in campaign mode since you could not get Dgen to generate missions for it, even if you edited the planes**dat files in Dgen folder and put it in. I like it better since it has a rear gunner. It will now be flyable in campaign mode in the patch. I also asked him to allow the SPB version too but he didn't include it and I don't know why. As far as Simhq, anybody can post there, all you have to do is register at www.simhq.com (http://www.simhq.com) I have no idea why you can shoot friendlies without repercussion, I think it's because it would further complicate the Dgen program code to include that sort of thing.

AtomicRunt
06-17-2004, 07:24 PM
Well Mortoma...If thats the reason for the delay,Then THANK YOU. I think thats all most of us needed. A little clarification, makes this whole patch fiasco easier to digest.

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