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XyZspineZyX
10-10-2003, 12:13 AM
I just played a QMB scenario with two ace 109f4s vs 4 rookie mig 3ub1941s I beefed up arcade mode and I wish I knew how to post the pictures from the game, but there were dozens of blue and red arrows through this thing and it kept on flying!!!! One arrow through the pilot too. I had to make two more passes with mgs to kill it.

Its funny, but the 1942 Mig 3 is a glass airplane. I killed it with 7mm mgs. It seems to be the Russian bf-109 for a DM!

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XyZspineZyX
10-10-2003, 12:13 AM
I just played a QMB scenario with two ace 109f4s vs 4 rookie mig 3ub1941s I beefed up arcade mode and I wish I knew how to post the pictures from the game, but there were dozens of blue and red arrows through this thing and it kept on flying!!!! One arrow through the pilot too. I had to make two more passes with mgs to kill it.

Its funny, but the 1942 Mig 3 is a glass airplane. I killed it with 7mm mgs. It seems to be the Russian bf-109 for a DM!

http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/insignia/italy/incocca-tende-scaglia.jpg
Saluti!
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XyZspineZyX
10-10-2003, 01:13 AM
The migs still seem to burn nicely but all russian planes with the exception of the il2's seem like they have gotten some super armor since previous patchs, .50s and .303s 20mm seem very ineffective against them. Nothing we can do about it unfortunatly but many have been playing less and less thats for sure

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XyZspineZyX
10-10-2003, 01:25 AM
don't forget that the arrows only indicate a bullet strike not a bullet penetration, just because the arrow went through the cockpit doesn't mean the bullet did.

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XyZspineZyX
10-10-2003, 05:08 AM
The Mig-3's seem about right to me. They are my favorite prey in VEF (we are currently flying mostly Bf-109F2's, the worst armed plane in FB). The Mig's burn easy if you hit their engine or wing tanks.

The flying tanks in FB are the same ones from IL2, the I-16, I-153, P-11c and LaGG-3. Most fragile are the Bf-109, Mig-3 and He-111.

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Buzz_25th
10-10-2003, 05:12 AM
The F2's burn pretty good too../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-10-2003, 05:51 AM
true, one of the main reasons why I fly He-111's and Ju-87's more than F2's /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .

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XyZspineZyX
10-10-2003, 06:53 AM
Maj_Death wrote:
- The flying tanks in FB are the same ones from IL2,
- the I-16, I-153, P-11c and LaGG-3. Most fragile are
- the Bf-109, Mig-3 and He-111.


Some old rumours never seem to die. While the LaGGs in fact still are almost invulnerable to MGs, at least the I-16 doesn't belong into this list!

Here's the track where I shoot down twelve I-16s only with the machine guns of one BF-109 F-2, even without using the cannons. (http://home.arcor.de/rayluck/sturmovik/MG_only-BF109F2-I16-12_kills.zip)

Here's a track where I set fire to six I-16s with the MG ammo load of one BF-109 F-2, without using the cannons. (http://home.arcor.de/rayluck/sturmovik/MG_only-BF109F2-I16-6_burn.zip)

My records for shooting down I-16s with another I-16 type 24, again without using cannons, are yet higher: 16 kills (http://home.arcor.de/rayluck/sturmovik/MG_only-I1624-I16-16_kills.zip) or 9 burning/exploding (http://home.arcor.de/rayluck/sturmovik/MG_only-I1624-I16-9_burn.zip)!

These tests were flown against unarmed rookie AI. In real fights the I-16 is harder to shoot down, but not because it's invulnerable (it isn't) but because it's very agile.


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XyZspineZyX
10-10-2003, 07:06 AM
I fly the 109F2 in VEF as well, and have no problems with I-16's or Mig-3's. Both go down with one solid burst. In fact the only thing that surprises me is how much punishment my F2 can take, and I can still flee home if necessary.

I'm not talking about just shooting them down either. I've found that a good solid burst into an I-16 or Mig-3 in the right place leaves nothing but a fireball and a bunch of debris floating to the ground. Of course for the Mig-3UD it seems to work both ways.

I've also learned that when the shot is good forget ammo conservation. I hammer down on both triggers when the angles get right, and simply don't fire the rest of the time.

The only problem I have is pouring ammo into IL2's and only being able to down a couple before my guns are empty.

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