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Bearcat99
03-07-2007, 07:08 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Cap_america_v4.jpg (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/captainamerica.htm)

Report: Captain America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America) Dies on the Page
By Associated Press
Wed Mar 7, 2:41 PM

This file image originally supplied by Marvel Comics, shows ...
NEW YORK - Captain America has undertaken his last mission _ at least for now.

The venerable superhero is killed in the issue of his namesake comic that hit stands Wednesday, the New York Daily News reported. On the new edition's pages, a sniper shoots down the shield-wielding hero as he leaves a courthouse.

It ends a long run for the stars-and-stripes-wearing character, created in 1941. Over the years, some 210 million copies of Captain America comic books, published by New York-based Marvel Entertainment Inc., have been sold in 75 countries.

But resurrections are not unknown in the world of comics, and Marvel Entertainment Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada said a Captain America comeback wasn't impossible.

Still, the character's death came as a blow to co-creator Joe Simon.

"We really need him now," said Simon, 93, who worked with artist Jack Kirby to devise Captain America as a foe for Adolf Hitler.

The superhero was spawned when a scrawny arts student named Steve Rogers, ineligible for the army because of his poor health but eager to serve his country, agreed to a "Super Soldier Serum" injection. The substance made him a paragon of physical perfection, armed only with his shield, his strength, his smarts and a command of martial arts.

In the comic-book universe, death is not always final. But even if Captain America turns out to have met his end in print, he may not disappear entirely: Marvel is developing a Captain America movie.

I dont know about you guys.... but I remember when Cap & Mr. Stark shared a book..... I always dug Cap because like Batman he had no powers perse...(SS formula not withstanding..) and like Namor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namor_the_Sub-Mariner)... and the original Torch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Torch_(android)) had a history.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Captainamerica1.jpg

heywooood
03-07-2007, 07:19 PM
meh...Captain Canada will make a mincemeats outta that boob if he tries to come back.

Hockey sticks....Canadian catnip.

Maple Syrup....Canadian ketchup.

horseback
03-07-2007, 07:34 PM
I thought mayonnaise was Canadian ketchup, and decent Maple syrup could only be had from Vermont.

cheers

horseback

XyZspineZyX
03-07-2007, 07:43 PM
Ah, Bear. Don't worry. This is actually the second time they've killed Cap. Remember when the Avengers found him in the ocean? Well he ended up there because he and Bucky were "killed" years earlier trying to defuse an aerial bomb.

Pirschjaeger
03-07-2007, 07:44 PM
It was a Vermont terrorist that shot Cap America while he was eating Canadian maple syrup.

By the way, mayo is Belgian ketchup. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

AVG_WarHawk
03-07-2007, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by heywooood:
meh...Captain Canada will make a mincemeats outta that boob if he tries to come back.

Hockey sticks....Canadian catnip.

Maple Syrup....Canadian ketchup.

Speaking of...here he comes nowhttp://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/AVG_WarHawk/ja9jwi_th.gif

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/AVG_WarHawk/CaptainCanada.jpg

heywooood
03-07-2007, 08:43 PM
Thats not Captain Canada - thats the Legend of Canada...anyone can see that.

Vermont terrorists eating Belgian Mayo eh?...

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strider1
03-07-2007, 08:45 PM
That's our Prime Minister in earlier days, celebrating our victory at the Hockey World Cup Championship against.......oh, yeah......
~S~ Bear. Heard this on the radio and said the same thing....this is a big OOOOHHHHHNNNNOOOO! Great topic, brings back memories of being a kid, going to the downtown pharmacy (in a town of 5000---if you call that a downtown) and buying enough Marvel (and DC) comics that the elderly owner would sometimes let me sit on the bottom of the wooden magazine rack and read a couple and then put them back on the rack. Remember Sergeant Fury http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fury , who became "The Shield"? Great stuff. Thanks for the post. Strider1

Bearcat99
03-07-2007, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by BBB462cid:
Ah, Bear. Don't worry. This is actually the second time they've killed Cap. Remember when the Avengers found him in the ocean? Well he ended up there because he and Bucky were "killed" years earlier trying to defuse an aerial bomb.
LOL.. yeah.. rgr that.. Bucky Barnes.. he was found by Fury correct? I think Reed Richards found Pheonix....

Feathered_IV
03-07-2007, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by BBB462cid:
Ah, Bear. Don't worry. This is actually the second time they've killed Cap. Remember when the Avengers found him in the ocean? Well he ended up there because he and Bucky were "killed" years earlier trying to defuse an aerial bomb.

The image of a pair of over-dressed superheroes struggling to defuse a bomb in freefall definitely puts the "Comic" back into comics. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Bearcat99
03-07-2007, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by strider1:
Remember Sergeant Fury http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fury , who became "The Shield"? Great stuff. Thanks for the post. Strider1

WaHooooo!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Nick Fury and his Howlin Commandoes... Marve's answer to Sgt. Rock...

M_Gunz
03-07-2007, 11:46 PM
I like Belgian Waffles since 1964 and Belgian rock music ala Hypnos 69 since 2004...

ViktorViktor
03-08-2007, 12:44 AM
Does this mean that Bucky takes over ?

Captain Bucky ? Sounds like a winner !

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Treetop64
03-08-2007, 12:56 AM
Eh... Capt. America was ghey anyway...

Ob.Emann
03-08-2007, 01:17 AM
What a waste of perfectly good propaganda. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

trumper
03-08-2007, 01:50 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Well Bush and the USA will be in mourning,a "real" super hero dies LOL.Have they been told it's only fiction http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

joeap
03-08-2007, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by trumper:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Well Bush and the USA will be in mourning,a "real" super hero dies LOL.Have they been told it's only fiction http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

What the hell does Bush have to do with it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-08-2007, 03:19 AM
Who cares about comic characters?



uhm... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

never mind...

carguy_
03-08-2007, 03:51 AM
Interesting.

Why do they have to kill him?Can`t he just turn into an old fart and retire?Or maybe become paralized?

Or maybe he should find a woman of his life and have a big family?

Comic superheroes were something more than just comics.They reflected the case of American society,there was a strong need for heroes,real men with ballz serving the country,spreading good.

Does that mean that superheroes do not find demand nowadays?America certainly has bad guys to fight and I`m sure many youngsters joined the army because of Batman/Capt.America alone.


What has always amazed me was why superheroes never killed their enemies for good.I mean sure there had to be bad guys to fight but one could always made up some new.American society strongly supports the penalty of death but those comic dudes obviously teach not to kill but to give another chance,many another chances even to the worst bastids there is.

As a kid I was always pissed cuz "the Joker ran away AGAIN??!".


Or maybe America already developed another idea for creating positive characters in society?

K_Freddie
03-08-2007, 03:51 AM
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Here we go again... Mention the wrong type of tree name , in vain, and watch the rockets launch into space.
This will make Werner Braun really jealous http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Those comics go back a lonnnnng way http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ViktorViktor
03-08-2007, 04:04 AM
You mortals understand nothing.
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Bearcat99
03-08-2007, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by trumper:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Well Bush and the USA will be in mourning,a "real" super hero dies LOL.Have they been told it's only fiction http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The next person who mentions current real world politics or politicians in this thread will be banned. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

ViktorViktor
03-08-2007, 06:46 AM
Did Captain American live in the real world, or did he live in a sort of Gotham City - alternate real world ?

joeap
03-08-2007, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by ViktorViktor:
Did Captain American live in the real world, or did he live in a sort of Gotham City - alternate real world ?

All comics take place in "alternate worlds." http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Bearcat99
03-08-2007, 07:09 AM
Modern day I think he was in N.Y. Back in WWII I am not sure where he lived... but back then it was an entirely fictional universe except where applicable.... as in him fighting Hitler etc... Different times I guess. The only real world event that even flew in the comic world recently that didn't seem hokey to me was the whole 9/11 tie in that Marvel did... since so many of their heroes were based in N.Y..... otherwise trying to tie in comic heroes to current real world stuff seemed kinda corny to me. Sort of like the "Spidey says brush your teeth kids!!"

Keep in mind that back then radio was king.... so everything else was elevated to a higher level than today as far as entertainment. Back then a lot of house parties had live musicians... a few guys would get together and jam in someones apartment until the wee hours of the morning. I am curious as to what the Germans thought of it all.. if they thought it was funny... I wonder if they had similar propaganda.... I used to like to read The BlackHawks & Terry & The Pirates too... although that was different.

John_Wayne_
03-08-2007, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Bearcat:
"I am curious as to what the Germans thought of it all.. if they thought it was funny... I wonder if they had similar propaganda...."


Anti-Superman article from the SS' weekly newspaper. There's a link to the offending comic strip near the top of the article.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/superman.htm

Nasty.

XyZspineZyX
03-08-2007, 10:04 AM
Cap "lived" in our world, a romantised one of course. During the war, Cap was of course the alter ego of Private Steve Rogers, US Army, while Bucky Barnes had been 'adopted' by the camp Rogers trained at, as camp 'mascot' after Barnes's GI Dad died in training

Cap went where Rogers went. CA broke up Spy rings, fought nazi saboteurs on the US Easr Coast, and so on, but also made appearnces at some of the US battles in the ETO if I recall

After he was resurrected, CA's image changed slightly. In the '60s, when it was cool to be anti-establishment, CA went from the square jawed steroetypical superhero, to an introspective, feeling character who was devoted to his duty while gnawed at by self-doubt that he had no place in society anymore

One of the best fictional characters ever created. Whether or not you like comic books, the character is a human one

As for why kill him off, although personally I don't like it, having him killed is much preferable to having him grow old and infirm, or paralyzed or whatnot. The classic hero is always mortal and dies. Burning out instead of fading away is in his character, especially if his essentially human and mortal side is exposed- CA can be killed by a bullet same as you or me- or by a blood clot. He's human. That's why he was my favorite superhero as a kid. He wasn't an alien or a mutant, he was just a perfect human specimen who used his knowledge of martial endeavours, physics, and plain old smarts to win whenever his muscle couldn't. Even the Red Skull holding the Cosmic Cube didn't stop Cap http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Capt.England
03-08-2007, 11:03 AM
Never fear people...Capt. England is still here!

With my superpowers of feeding English food to wrong doer's, and the power of taxing people to death, I WILL avenge Capt. America killing!!

heywooood
03-08-2007, 06:12 PM
yeah - vinegar on chips is like wicked awful....and I mean that in the best possible way. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

ViktorViktor
03-09-2007, 03:19 AM
Wonder who shows up for the funeral.

Worf101
03-09-2007, 06:08 AM
Lots of memories here. As a kid I brought many a comic book. Most of which I still have. Yeah I boarded and bagge em so I may actually be able to pay for little Worffies college someday. I remember Capt. America. Yes he was teamed for a while in the same book with Iron Man.

He "died" once before, but was resurrected in the 60's. He fought Hitler, "The Red Skull", "Baron Strucker", "The Axis of Evil" and others. He became a full time "Avenger" and led that group for a long time. Never one of my faves but the Jack Kirby artwork was amazing. Later on he became an operative of Nick Fury's S.H.I.E.L.D. but that was just a sideline.

As for Cap's death... Pheh... he'll be back.

Da Worfster