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Hanglands
03-12-2007, 04:23 PM
Hi,

Does anyone have photos of Turbinlite equipped aircraft please? I know that A-20s were fitted with them, perhaps Mossies too.

As well as photos of the actual equipment fitted to aircraft I would also be interested in diagrams of the set-up, or even artists impressions of it in action.

Many thanks for any help.

Regards.

ARCHIE_CALVERT
03-12-2007, 05:56 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/MT01.jpg

http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2006/01/images/hrubisko_mosquito_07.jpg

Might have some drawings somewhere...

Beaufort-RAF
03-12-2007, 09:07 PM
http://eddurham.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/boston560.jpg

FE_pilot
03-12-2007, 10:41 PM
Why go ruin a perfectly good airplane by adding a ugly searchlight and taking out its armament.

Waldo.Pepper
03-13-2007, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by FE_pilot:
Why go ruin a perfectly good airplane by adding a ugly searchlight and taking out its armament.

Well you can see how the idea would seem to make some sense, as it was the extension of what is done with anti-aircraft guns of the time. First you catch the enemy plane in the beams of the (ground based searchlight, guided by a SLC RADAR) Other searchlights may then join in. Then the AA guns clobber him. The Turbinlite concept is simply mounting all this gear in airplanes and moving the whole process into the air. Seems reasonable right?

Yes well it was a spectacular failure, like the Great Panjandrum or something like that. But you have to remember that they were pretty much inventing the art/science of night interceptions out of whole cloth. Making it up as they went along.

The idea was that the Turbinlite aircraft would also carry the radar (as you can see from the pictures they also sport the A.I. Mk IV set) and act as a guide for 2 other day fighters (Hurricanes) to perform the actual interception.

The prospect of converting two (otherwise ineffective) day fighters in to successful night fighters, from an economical standpoint, is rather tempting. You can imagine a government bean counter rubbing his hands with glee at the prospect.

("You mean to say we can convert useless day fighters into potent night fighters with no modification to them - and solve our problem! Lets do it!")

In the Pacific war the USN tried something rather similar (without the light though) as they too groped (in the dark) for a solution. Initially they tried having an Avenger act as a RADAR guide for two ordinary day fighters who would make the actual interception and kill.

Neither scheme worked however, for various reasons. One of which was that it was a little too challenging to expect the three aircraft to maintain enough of a formation at night (without any formation lights etc.) to function as a cohesive hunter killer group.

Also if the Turbinlite aircraft could hit the target aircraft with a beam of light, then why not with some bullets/cannon shells instead? Finding the intruder and hitting him with a beam or light turned out to be ALL the battle, rather than half the battle. And replacing the weapons with the light now looks to us as foolish. Rather than a feasible solution to an intractable problem. Feasible enough that it was worth the attempt.

Hanglands
03-13-2007, 12:10 PM
Hi,

Great stuff guys, as always.

ARCHIE_CALVERT, is that Mossie model yours? If so did you adapt it yourself? I've never seen one like that.

Many thanks all!

Regards.

DmdSeeker
03-13-2007, 12:50 PM
My god; that Mossie looks like a Lamprey!

ARCHIE_CALVERT
03-13-2007, 02:05 PM
Hanglands:

ARCHIE_CALVERT, is that Mossie model yours? If so did you adapt it yourself? I've never seen one like that.

No, just one I nicked from a Google search...