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Falcke
11-12-2010, 11:16 AM
So my X52 stick is dying a slow and rather tedious death (the creaking OH GOD THE CREAKING), and I need to replace it with something that is more or less equal to it. Throttle still works fine, so I guess I don't really need a full HOTAS, just a stick.

Was looking at the Saitek Cyborg X, but there seems to be a lack of reviews for it.
Anyone have a clue about the durability/quality of that stick? Or else suggest me something in the same price range?

horseback
11-13-2010, 11:47 AM
ANY CH stick will last forever and stay accurate and crisp. It's pricier than its Saitek counterparts but more reliable.

Had mine for over 8 years of regular use and they're still just as good as new. In terms of cost per hour of use, I'm well into fractions of a penny by now.

cheers

horseback

JSG72
11-13-2010, 11:53 AM
I have a Saitek Cyborg Force stick I have been using for the past 8yrs. V. happy with it.

The Cyborg X appears to be a rrreally good stick and throttle combo.(PC Pilot recommended). Fancy it myself. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

ytareh
11-13-2010, 01:37 PM
Both the Saitek and CH sticks have really weak and floppy springs ...I recommend a Logitech Extreme 3d Pro ,bad rep but GREAT spring,hand grip ,throttle , buttons etc etc -if it fails bring it back or buy another !Ive tried most of the rest including top of the range stuff...Anybody got feedback on the new Logitech G940s?Actually quick google suggests super floppy too...I saw today that Logitech are doing the Extreme 3d pro in a new coloured box after all these years !

RedToo
11-13-2010, 01:57 PM
Can't recommend CH stuff too highly. Been using it for years. Still all works like it was new.

RedToo.

DuckyFluff
11-13-2010, 02:18 PM
The CH sticks are superb, they will stay as good as the day you bought them for many, many, years. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

The stick forces are not weak and floppy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

They are LIGHT which means you can be super accurate with any inputs, you do not develop lop-sided arm muscles and you can actually use them comfortably for many hours. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BillSwagger
11-13-2010, 03:39 PM
The stick forces are not weak and floppy.
I find most sticks are just a matter of preference for the set up you have. If a stick is too light, or floppy, then you can always pop a stronger spring inside, or even use a spacer with the current spring you have.

arthursmedley
11-13-2010, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by JSG72:
I have a Saitek Cyborg Force stick I have been using for the past 8yrs. V. happy with it.



Yep, same here. 6 years old, everything works fine, no spring to worry about. And there's something very, very satisfying about flying a P51 or 190Dora with a force feedback stick. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Falcke
11-13-2010, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the advice. Yeah I know if I want great quality I should go for something like CH, but it's just to keep me going for the moment. Should have more funds available to go for a complete CH setup in a while. So I guess the cyborg should last until then.

Thanks again!

M_Gunz
11-13-2010, 09:07 PM
Saitek is fine if you don't rest your arm weight on the stick.. much. I had a friend teach me to fly maneuvers with just a finger and thumb to teach better control and flying. When I do a mission I hold the stick lighter because of that. Worst I can do is elbow on the table and hamfist on the stick.
But in time the Saitek will wear out (while the CH can be fixed) -- save the sucker, you might be able to make a set of USB pedals that has its own throttle quadrant, wouldn't that be cool?

Ba5tard5word
11-14-2010, 12:04 AM
The 3D Extreme Pro is ok as a budget stick but I never liked the very stiff spring, you feel like you're constantly fighting it and it's hard to have good control when doing small maneuvers like trying to line up a shot on a moving target. Forget about deflection shots because your nose will be flying up and down while you try to stay steady.

My CH stick is the only other kind I've tried, it's very smooth and silky and really gives you a lot of control for aiming, I like it.

BillSwagger
11-14-2010, 12:26 AM
Does anyone know of a stick that doesn't have a spring at all, the stick just stays positioned where ever you place it?

Boandlgramer
11-14-2010, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by BillSwagger:
Does anyone know of a stick that doesn't have a spring at all, the stick just stays positioned where ever you place it?

Are you sooo... a Newbie in the flightsimulator community that you never heard about the tarmac aces stick ?

BillSwagger
11-14-2010, 01:06 AM
i have been told more than once that i must've been living in a cave. please do tell more.

Boandlgramer
11-14-2010, 01:10 AM
Of course Bill,
I like to help you:

http://www.tarmac-aces.com/html/en/hangar.php

Erkki_M
11-14-2010, 04:08 AM
You can usually remove the spring in most sticks. In X45 and X52 you can use a rubberband, or two, or a cable tie to keep pull the string up to let the stick loose. Can be good for precision flying.

Roberts_701
11-14-2010, 05:33 AM
Hi, I was using the Saitek X45 and the joystick broke. i brought the the thrustmaster T.6000M there is no spring and the movements are sensor controled.. used it with my X45 thrust paddle , saitek peddles, quad levers and the trackir with no problems at all.

The T.16000M is the way to go imo.

Link to product.

Thrustmaster T.16000M (http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=153&PlatformID=5)

goodluck in your choice. ~S~

Sokol__1
11-14-2010, 05:39 AM
Falcke,

You already do a HALL sensor MOD in your X-52?

Since your X-52 throttle still fine, and this work independent of X-52 stick, a good and low expensive option is Thrustmaster T.16000M with Hall sensor, so you stay with "HOTAS".

If you do a T.1600M stretching MOD (some wires, solder, heat shrink tube, PVC pipe...), you have a very precise stick for WWII combat sim. Article in FREE Computer Pilot magazine:
http://www.pcaviatornetwork.co...les/CP143MT6FZ6A.ZIP (http://www.pcaviatornetwork.com/files/CP143MT6FZ6A.ZIP)

Roberts,

T.1600M use one compression spring, similar to Microsoft Sidewinder.

Sokol1

Sokol__1
11-14-2010, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by Sokol__1:
Falcke,

You already do a HALL sensor MOD in your X-52?

Since your X-52 throttle still fine, and this work independent of X-52 stick, a good and low expensive option is Thrustmaster T.16000M with Hall sensor, so you stay with "HOTAS".

If you do a T.1600M stretching MOD (some wires, solder, heat shrink tube, PVC pipe...), you have a very precise stick for WWII combat sim. Article in FREE Computer Pilot magazine:
http://www.pcaviatornetwork.co...les/CP143MT6FZ6A.ZIP (http://www.pcaviatornetwork.com/files/CP143MT6FZ6A.ZIP)

Roberts,

T.1600M use one compression spring, similar to Microsoft Sidewinder.

See pictures form disassembled T.16000M here:
http://www.checksix-forums.com...wthread.php?t=164787 (http://www.checksix-forums.com/showthread.php?t=164787)

Sokol1

Falcke
11-14-2010, 09:19 AM
Well I've never modded sticks, and I have a tendency to mess up stuff like that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif