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Lowenherz
07-08-2006, 09:03 AM
I finally spent my hard-earned cash on this baby...
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Capt.LoneRanger
07-08-2006, 09:29 AM
The metall-version I guess?

I'm considering to spend some money on an airsoft-gun, too.

Lowenherz
07-08-2006, 09:47 AM
I'm only a novice, but a couple of my experienced friends recommended that gun - Tokyo Marui M14 - they do a wooden colour too. The stock is plastic, but the mechanism is all metal. Are you US based? I understand they are much cheaper over there.

LStarosta
07-08-2006, 09:49 AM
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russ.nl
07-08-2006, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
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Stackhouse25th
07-08-2006, 10:05 AM
why buy airsoft when you can buy a real one

bfbabine
07-08-2006, 10:57 AM
Not everyone has access to a $1200 Springfield Armory real deal. Personally, I can't get over how real it looks. Very cool.

Lowenherz
07-08-2006, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
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???? You've obviously never played, because it's great fun. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Lowenherz
07-08-2006, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Stackhouse25th:
why buy airsoft when you can buy a real one

Er.... because (a) they're illegal in the UK and (b) You can't shoot other people.... without certain consequences... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

heywooood
07-08-2006, 11:14 AM
airsoft is'nt for home defense...its for plinkin' yer pals on weekends just for fun.

good, clean, wholesome fun...


real shotie's are only good for beer drinkin' can plinkin' or street sign obliteratin' yeeeeHAW!!!

han freak solo
07-08-2006, 11:22 AM
I have real guns at home and I have two airsoft gas pistols at the office.

The airsoft pistols are great for a slow day and you have time to kill, but you don't want to kill animate objects. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

If I shot a little .22 at the office, someone might get a little p1ssed off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

MEGILE
07-08-2006, 11:26 AM
Looks convincing, I'd stay away from the streets with that thing if I was you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Deedsundone
07-08-2006, 11:42 AM
I would if there is an Carl Gustav M/45 replica so I can revive old memories from my conscript service. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
http://www.philaord.com/products/swed.html

LStarosta
07-08-2006, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Lowenherz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
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???? You've obviously never played, because it's great fun. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm too poor.

300+ dollars for a gun that can't even kill someone is a bit steep for moi.

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heywooood
07-08-2006, 01:31 PM
oh I dunno - I imagine you could clout someone to death with that peashooter if you wanted to...so thats good...right? no? I mean if its that important...so its not a complete waste of $300.00

GAU-8
07-08-2006, 10:51 PM
i understand paintball for the sport.and you can get them in mg44, /50 CAL /M16 /other assorted flavors that look like the real thing.

i understand SIMUNITION for the effects/realism. (and those that actually "play" with it for "sport" (they are out there!)

but i dont quite get the B.B.gun concept, that shoots plastic pellets. is it tactical? is it sport? how do you tell if you hit someone? do they just go "OW OW OW ..THAT HURTS!"?

maybe im missing what its all about..time for some reading on it.

to me its an "anger maker" just to pop a few rounds at your friends when unsuspecting?

Esel1964
07-09-2006, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by bfbabine:
Not everyone has access to a $1200 Springfield Armory real deal. Personally, I can't get over how real it looks. Very cool.

The National Match Springfield M1A took a $1600 chunk out of my life.Extremely accurate and great fun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif,but I do miss all those greenbacks,and need them often.

kidneuro
07-09-2006, 01:51 AM
Airsoft is great fun! We go out to the woods and shoot at each other on every weekend http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif - not what you can usually do with real guns.

...but I'll stick with my MP5 it's much easier to move around with it in a dense forest or in a building.

GAU-8: Paintball is an "extreme" sport (fast and doesen't need too much thinking), while airsoft is a tactical game (slower paced and team oriented). And yes, if you got shot just raise your arms and say "HIT!"

Esel1964
07-09-2006, 04:41 AM
I know what you mean,I used to play paintball((my set up--Automag,expansion chamber,hi-speed feed)) at a cousin's place,that was 5 acres of dense "woods"(as we say here).
I think the "Pro paintball",where you run around a few obstacles is dumb;compared to 2 teams going into the woods and playing to the last man.
After all,paintball is a war simulation,why not play it as such-fully camoed and stealthy?We'd have 10-20 players draw a "color" = team tag,from a bucket.That determines your armband color,then each team goes to the equivalent of an end-zone-a horn sounds,and the hunt's on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

WOODY01
07-09-2006, 06:40 AM
Heres a story you wont here everyday, when I was about 19 or so I had a bb pistol. I absolutly hate 'flys' perhaps thats why I like aircombat so much...anyway. I was walking through the lounge room one day when I spyed a fly on the floor, I quick sticks shot him dead with my bb pistol. However...The bb hit killed the fly, richoched off the ground and punched a nice clean hole in my Dads $3000 Yamaha stereo system face plate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif, I was an apprentice at the time and not on real good money, the replacement faceplate cost me $600NZ and I had to wait for 6 weeks! He never discovered it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif, one night he went out for 'half an hour' so I got to work swapping it out, what a mission! all the little LED diodes fell out of there slots, panels wouldnt budge! But at the end of the day I got it done http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

To this day he is none the wiser.

Be careful with that thing young man, they can lead to trouble!

ChwyNiblet
07-09-2006, 07:02 AM
I used to airsoft. I have a TM MP5 upgraded up the wazoo and a HFC M190. Airsoft is really fun, the only problem is that there are a real lack of airsoft sites in the US, especially on the east coast. But the game itself is extremely fun, I prefer CQB over anything. But Lowenherz, that TM M-14 you have there is very nice! Are you going to keep it stock? I would put a sopmod kit on it, just b/c I like the way it looks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Taylortony
07-09-2006, 08:05 AM
I got to play with one of these once in the RAF but they wouldn't let me keep it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/Templates/GenerateThumbnail.aspx?imageURL=/NR/rdonlyres/67F4EAEE-9656-4C15-9C13-D3B136F77748/0/afgip6.jpg&imgWidth=400&imgHeight=250

Shultze_87
07-09-2006, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by WOODY01:
Heres a story you wont here everyday, when I was about 19 or so I had a bb pistol. I absolutly hate 'flys' perhaps thats why I like aircombat so much...anyway. I was walking through the lounge room one day when I spyed a fly on the floor, I quick sticks shot him dead with my bb pistol. However...The bb hit killed the fly, richoched off the ground and punched a nice clean hole in my Dads $3000 Yamaha stereo system face plate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif,

Those BB handguns were sure effective in killing rats too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

It was a blast,me with a couple of my cousins gathered at my grandpa's place,we started rat hunting.I wish i still had my ole gun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
07-09-2006, 08:12 AM
@ Stackhouse25th

Maybe you should live a few years outside the US - you'd ge tsome real new insights in laws of other countries?

@ LStarosta

1. These guns are available from 12$
2. Try the difference in shooting yourself in the foot with a real gun and the airsoft to see what is more fun...

AWL_Spinner
07-09-2006, 08:27 AM
With regard to the gatling picture above - you can get an airsoft (http://wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/product.asp?page=product&id=VULCAN) one if you really want.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/bin/image-lib/products/VULCAN.jpg

AWL_Spinner
07-09-2006, 08:34 AM
*sigh*

Reading around a few sites it seems this hobby/sport is another one under threat from Nanny State UK.

Which is annoying as it looked perfect for my stag weekend next year.

Rood-Zwart
07-09-2006, 09:18 AM
You people scare me! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

LStarosta
07-09-2006, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
@ Stackhouse25th

Maybe you should live a few years outside the US - you'd ge tsome real new insights in laws of other countries?

@ LStarosta

1. These guns are available from 12$
2. Try the difference in shooting yourself in the foot with a real gun and the airsoft to see what is more fun...

That's all good and all, but I'm not going to spend ridiculous amounts of money to shoot myself in the foot and not cry. Just a hunch, but I'm sure that M14 cost a bit more than $12.

Lowenherz
07-09-2006, 09:54 AM
But Lowenherz, that TM M-14 you have there is very nice! Are you going to keep it stock? I would put a sopmod kit on it, just b/c I like the way it looks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

No, I'm keeping it the way it is - I'm retro man!


Originally posted by AWL_Spinner:
*sigh*

Reading around a few sites it seems this hobby/sport is another one under threat from Nanny State UK.

Which is annoying as it looked perfect for my stag weekend next year.

They've been talking about it, but nothing's happened. It doesn't make sense to ban it.


Originally posted by AWL_Spinner:
With regard to the gatling picture above - you can get an airsoft (http://wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/product.asp?page=product&id=VULCAN) one if you really want.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/bin/image-lib/products/VULCAN.jpg

That is awesome!! 3700!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WB_Outlaw
07-09-2006, 11:12 AM
If you have a good crew, AirSoft is awesome. Unfortunately I don't so I must stick to paintball where the refs can see the hits.

I also agree that "tournament" paintball is a bit boring. It's good as a "quickie" but I prefer to be in the field sneaking around. I've been involved in some fabulous bunker assaults. My knees are so bad now I don't play much but I do try and get out a few times a year.

--Outlaw.

Messaschnitzel
07-09-2006, 12:06 PM
If anyone is interested, here are some links to "classic Airsoft" guns that were produced in the 1980's and 90's. For the most part, these are either all metal, or metal and heavy ABS plastic. Not at all like the AEG (battery operated) guns that are produced today.

Check it out...you might get hooked...

I know that I did when I purchased a shoei MG42 that got me started on a path of no return! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.classicairsoft.net/forum1/sitenews.asp

Check out the guns in this link:

http://www.classicairsoft.net/album.htm

CruiseTorpedo
07-09-2006, 01:38 PM
I'd love to try the airsoft thing but it's just not very popular around my area. Paintball is all over the place so I do have my own gear to get out and play that as often as I can! There's a lot of great fields with plenty of woods to go running around, I just wish the paintball guns had better effective range. Sometimes 100ft or so is just not far enough, I know you can fire beyond that but then the rounds dont break reliably at all. Still it's a great game and loads of fun

How far can those plastic BBs go to where you'll still feel it hit you on your shirt or pants (bare skin I'm sure you'd feel it but on clothes at long range)?

Lowenherz
07-09-2006, 02:00 PM
At the velocity they go, you feel them whenever you're hit. I really don't know about range - it varies. 75 yards, at least. Some of the sniper rifles (which are allowed higher power) would be greater than that.

And some of the guns are full metal - all the ICS range are.

CruiseTorpedo
07-09-2006, 03:26 PM
75 yards sounds pretty good! If your hit by one of the sniper rifles at short range (say less than 15ft) I'd imagine it would puncture skin. Do those things have some kinda limit on their rates of fire by use of a bolt action or something?

Paintball is getting a little rediculous here lately, more and more people are showing up with guns that fire 20+ rounds per second, it can hurt at times when your hit by a half dozen in a quarter second. I've come home many times with 8+ hits and I was only shot out in one game all day, just that one time I was shot out the guy suprised me and opened up from 30ft away knowing it's impossible to miss but used the full auto anyway even though one or two would have been plenty. Discouraging at times but the game is too fun to stop because of just a few mishaps.

Viikate_
07-09-2006, 04:18 PM
Airsoft is best with hi-power upgraded guns. Then you really start to be afraid of getting hit and adrenaline starts pumping. Close/middle range hit make bleeding welts and one of my friends even lost a tooth http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Dumb@ss didn't wear proper mask.

Non upgraded guns are great for indoor battles. Imagine sliding down a corridor on you back while shooting with two pistols or submachineguns. John Woo style baybeh!!!11

biggs222
07-09-2006, 04:26 PM
Toyko Mauri Thompson submachine gun looks pretty cool... but again... its just a toy gun... never was able to convince myself that its something thats acutally worth buying.

CruiseTorpedo
07-09-2006, 05:43 PM
I'm with you biggs, but if I had people to play against I'd probably get one. About the guy that lost a tooth, umm I never see anyone wearing a full face mask in pics or videos of people playing airsoft. So does a mouth piece like for football work to prevent losing teeth?

GAU-8
07-09-2006, 06:31 PM
yeah ..so far from the majority of videos i see, MOST people arent wearing any kind of gear. if it shoots a projectile no matter WHAT SIZE.. your a little goofy for not wearing protective gear.

as for the paintball, i too prefer the deep woods/farmhouse style combat. the "X-TREEEEEEEME ACTION" style "sport" is ghey.

Bo_Nidle
07-09-2006, 07:12 PM
I have always liked the M14 - very nice piece of kit. Its the Socom16 version I particularly like:

http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/rifles/SOCOM16.jpg

I have had to content myself with ordering this BSA .22 XL Tactical air rifle with Mil-Dot scope from a gun shop in Norwich.

https://secweb1.pipemedia.net/uttings/Images/BSA/XLTACTICAL.jpg

Its not out until the end of July but I can wait. Its not a 7.62mm but it will have to do until the Mrs agrees to emigrate.

dusta01
07-09-2006, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by kidneuro:

GAU-8: Paintball is an "extreme" sport (fast and doesen't need too much thinking), while airsoft is a tactical game (slower paced and team oriented). And yes, if you got shot just raise your arms and say "HIT!"

Pffft spoken like a true woodball player. Depends on what rocks your boat. Personally i think the thought and tactics needed to play in a 3/5/7 man field is just as "tactical" as playing in some big outdoor field. There are still "lanes" u need to shoot, first , second and third position bunkers. So get off your high horse about how much superior woodball is a supair field . If woodball is where its at then why aren't DYE, Smart Parts etc pumping big money into woodball teams ?

Esel1964
07-09-2006, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by dusta01:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kidneuro:

GAU-8: Paintball is an "extreme" sport (fast and doesen't need too much thinking), while airsoft is a tactical game (slower paced and team oriented). And yes, if you got shot just raise your arms and say "HIT!"

Pffft spoken like a true woodball player. Depends on what rocks your boat. Personally i think the thought and tactics needed to play in a 3/5/7 man field is just as "tactical" as playing in some big outdoor field. There are still "lanes" u need to shoot, first , second and third position bunkers. So get off your high horse about how much superior woodball is a supair field . If woodball is where its at then why aren't DYE, Smart Parts etc pumping big money into woodball teams ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's far easier to gather an audience and film in an arena than the woods.
Arena paintball's a regular feature on ESPN,they advertise where people will see it.

But,you can bet,they're thinking of "woodball" players too,when they spend that ad money.
Most of the arena style fields charge too much,many want you to use only their paint,gases,etc. = $$$;there are more people running around in the woods(for free),than on a basketball court with a bunch of inflatable obstacles or pallets.

I'm not trying to be an a-h*le,that's the way I see it,at least in my little corner of the world. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

dusta01
07-10-2006, 12:39 AM
Some people prefer it in the woods. Some people prefer it in a smaller arena. Just because X-Ball isn't in wide open spaces like woodball doesn't make it any different . While i dont mind woodball occasionally , it still bores me to tears .

Over here is australia you cant just run around in the bush anyway as it is illegal unless the firearm is registered and its private property and even then it's touch and go.

Paintball is an expensive sport and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Esel1964
07-10-2006, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by dusta01:
Some people prefer it in the woods. Some people prefer it in a smaller arena. Just because X-Ball isn't in wide open spaces like woodball doesn't make it any different . While i dont mind woodball occasionally , it still bores me to tears .

Over here is australia you cant just run around in the bush anyway as it is illegal unless the firearm is registered and its private property and even then it's touch and go.

Paintball is an expensive sport and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Yeah,"to each his own" always applies,for sure.I agree there M8. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Something you said confuses me,are you saying you have to register a paintball gun.If so,that's a ridiculous law-how's it a firearm,if there's no fire?
What harm could someone do?...rob a bank by threatening to put bruises on them? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

kidneuro
07-10-2006, 07:39 AM
dusta: you can say what ever you want against "woodball", but still most of the paintballers here are bored businessmen who go out to the field or arena on the weekends to shoot their boss' or colleagues ***...

While the airsofters are more dedicated, more of a military moron type ppl with their own gear and guns.

At least thats what I see here in Europe. Maybe it's different in the US or Australia.

MadRuski
07-10-2006, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
I'm too poor.
300+ dollars for a gun that can't even kill someone is a bit steep for moi.
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wat u mean it cant kill someone, just swap the ends around keep hitting until hes on he ground http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif,...btw, very nice gun, u sure can fake a robbery with that (u didnt hear this idea from me lol) but its funny how ppl or movies influence other ppl, last year my bro bought a plastic toy gun and spray painted it black (hes 14) and went with friends to the shops...to buy stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif...anyway, lucky i caught him and took it of him, i asked were he got the idea, and he said from a movie that was played in his school..imagin that, in the school lol

han freak solo
07-10-2006, 04:12 PM
http://www.lssdigital.com/lwpilot/paint.jpg

han freak solo
07-10-2006, 04:27 PM
Link Gone

dusta01
07-10-2006, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dusta01:
Some people prefer it in the woods. Some people prefer it in a smaller arena. Just because X-Ball isn't in wide open spaces like woodball doesn't make it any different . While i dont mind woodball occasionally , it still bores me to tears .

Over here is australia you cant just run around in the bush anyway as it is illegal unless the firearm is registered and its private property and even then it's touch and go.

Paintball is an expensive sport and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Yeah,"to each his own" always applies,for sure.I agree there M8. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Something you said confuses me,are you saying you have to register a paintball gun.If so,that's a ridiculous law-how's it a firearm,if there's no fire?
What harm could someone do?...rob a bank by threatening to put bruises on them? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A paintball gun can seriously mame or kill someone. A couple of weeks ago, only in america with its fantastic gun laws, a 9 year old boy was killed when abother kid loaded a paintball gun by shoving a screwdriver into the barrel. He then fired it and it hit the 9 year old in the head and killed the boy . Another incident a couple of months ago a lady lost sight in one eye because some f$#$#$ moron (again in america) decided it would be funny to drive by and shoot paintballs at people on the side of the street . A paintball hit her in the eye and she lost vision .


Over here in australia, because of reasons like this it is classified as a lethal weapon and has to be registered and stored in a secure safe when not being used.

So you can see why paintball markers even though not shooting solid projectiles need to be registered as they are still a lethal weapon

CruiseTorpedo
07-11-2006, 11:28 AM
It's sad what some people do with the paintguns. You should keep it in perspective though, there's millions of these things out there and parents should be aware. If their kid wants one and they're not responsible enough it should be locked up until it's time to go to an actual field that's covered by insurance and has established safety rules. I'm shocked about what happened with the screw driver incident, if a law passes to force us to register paintguns then so be it and I'll understand. They are dangerous and should be handled with care. I'm sure all those gun laws in australia havent stopped dumb people from doing dumb things and hurting others though.

dusta01
07-11-2006, 07:29 PM
Heya CT . Over here in australia paintballing has only become legal over the alst couple of years. I've been doing it for many years but to be totally honest i think it's much better because it is very tightly controlled. Because guns are registered there haven't been any serious incidents to date (fingers crossed) . I'm glad someone else realises that these guns can be lethal. Just because they shoot breakable pellets doesn't mean they can't kill

BADroadruner
07-12-2006, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
I know what you mean,I used to play paintball((my set up--Automag,expansion chamber,hi-speed feed)) at a cousin's place,that was 5 acres of dense "woods"(as we say here).
I think the "Pro paintball",where you run around a few obstacles is dumb;compared to 2 teams going into the woods and playing to the last man.
After all,paintball is a war simulation,why not play it as such-fully camoed and stealthy?We'd have 10-20 players draw a "color" = team tag,from a bucket.That determines your armband color,then each team goes to the equivalent of an end-zone-a horn sounds,and the hunt's on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
WOW, ok first off ur auto mag with high speed feed sucks, as a division 3 champ i seem to know the ins and outs of paintball. paintball is not a war simulation, yes u do use gun and shoot people, but war isnt all about using guns and shooting people, thats a massacre. pro paintball takes ALOT of tactices, watch any modern pro paintball dvd, and u usally will see atleast 1 team(all teams do) draw up tactics on a whiteboard, and u walk the field to get better tactics. paintball is a extreme sport,kind of, becuase alot of extreme sport are usally something crazy, but are usaly solo, paintball u work as a team, and woodsball is not paintball in any way, its a discgrace to the name paintball. thats my 2 cents

LStarosta
07-12-2006, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by dusta01:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Esel1964:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dusta01:
Some people prefer it in the woods. Some people prefer it in a smaller arena. Just because X-Ball isn't in wide open spaces like woodball doesn't make it any different . While i dont mind woodball occasionally , it still bores me to tears .

Over here is australia you cant just run around in the bush anyway as it is illegal unless the firearm is registered and its private property and even then it's touch and go.

Paintball is an expensive sport and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Yeah,"to each his own" always applies,for sure.I agree there M8. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Something you said confuses me,are you saying you have to register a paintball gun.If so,that's a ridiculous law-how's it a firearm,if there's no fire?
What harm could someone do?...rob a bank by threatening to put bruises on them? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A paintball gun can seriously mame or kill someone. A couple of weeks ago, only in america with its fantastic gun laws, a 9 year old boy was killed when abother kid loaded a paintball gun by shoving a screwdriver into the barrel. He then fired it and it hit the 9 year old in the head and killed the boy . Another incident a couple of months ago a lady lost sight in one eye because some f$#$#$ moron (again in america) decided it would be funny to drive by and shoot paintballs at people on the side of the street . A paintball hit her in the eye and she lost vision .


Over here in australia, because of reasons like this it is classified as a lethal weapon and has to be registered and stored in a secure safe when not being used.

So you can see why paintball markers even though not shooting solid projectiles need to be registered as they are still a lethal weapon </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I killed someone with a spoon once. Where do I register that?

BADroadruner
07-12-2006, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dusta01:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kidneuro:

GAU-8: Paintball is an "extreme" sport (fast and doesen't need too much thinking), while airsoft is a tactical game (slower paced and team oriented). And yes, if you got shot just raise your arms and say "HIT!"

Pffft spoken like a true woodball player. Depends on what rocks your boat. Personally i think the thought and tactics needed to play in a 3/5/7 man field is just as "tactical" as playing in some big outdoor field. There are still "lanes" u need to shoot, first , second and third position bunkers. So get off your high horse about how much superior woodball is a supair field . If woodball is where its at then why aren't DYE, Smart Parts etc pumping big money into woodball teams ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's far easier to gather an audience and film in an arena than the woods.
Arena paintball's a regular feature on ESPN,they advertise where people will see it.

But,you can bet,they're thinking of "woodball" players too,when they spend that ad money.
Most of the arena style fields charge too much,many want you to use only their paint,gases,etc. = $$$;there are more people running around in the woods(for free),than on a basketball court with a bunch of inflatable obstacles or pallets.

I'm not trying to be an a-h*le,that's the way I see it,at least in my little corner of the world. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
serouisly, u have never played real paintball, since when do u pay for gases? duh, at a turny, (like the local 1 im going to sunday) u pay say like 50$ a team, so if its a 5 man thats 10 bucks per player, wich comes with entry and all day air/c02. then say 55 a case of paint. alot of fields will charge u say 25$ to get in and BYOP, that includes air. also arena paintbal is on some satilite channel(that i dont get http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif ) and is wayy different then reguler painball on a field. and only noobs use pallets for a bunker. and ive never seen it played on a basketball cort, cuz there to small really. and in the woods u only got as much paint as u can buy, and u dont got alot of air, cuz i doubt any noobs running around in the woods has a licenese to fill tanks. just my 3 cents

BADroadruner
07-12-2006, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dusta01:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Esel1964:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dusta01:
Some people prefer it in the woods. Some people prefer it in a smaller arena. Just because X-Ball isn't in wide open spaces like woodball doesn't make it any different . While i dont mind woodball occasionally , it still bores me to tears .

Over here is australia you cant just run around in the bush anyway as it is illegal unless the firearm is registered and its private property and even then it's touch and go.

Paintball is an expensive sport and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Yeah,"to each his own" always applies,for sure.I agree there M8. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Something you said confuses me,are you saying you have to register a paintball gun.If so,that's a ridiculous law-how's it a firearm,if there's no fire?
What harm could someone do?...rob a bank by threatening to put bruises on them? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A paintball gun can seriously mame or kill someone. A couple of weeks ago, only in america with its fantastic gun laws, a 9 year old boy was killed when abother kid loaded a paintball gun by shoving a screwdriver into the barrel. He then fired it and it hit the 9 year old in the head and killed the boy . Another incident a couple of months ago a lady lost sight in one eye because some f$#$#$ moron (again in america) decided it would be funny to drive by and shoot paintballs at people on the side of the street . A paintball hit her in the eye and she lost vision .


Over here in australia, because of reasons like this it is classified as a lethal weapon and has to be registered and stored in a secure safe when not being used.

So you can see why paintball markers even though not shooting solid projectiles need to be registered as they are still a lethal weapon </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I killed someone with a spoon once. Where do I register that? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
yes, spoons are illage in ever country but greenland. same goes for forks and "sporks"(for all u smart arses)

CruiseTorpedo
07-13-2006, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by BADroadruner:
serouisly, u have never played real paintball, since when do u pay for gases? duh, at a turny, (like the local 1 im going to sunday) u pay say like 50$ a team, so if its a 5 man thats 10 bucks per player, wich comes with entry and all day air/c02. then say 55 a case of paint. alot of fields will charge u say 25$ to get in and BYOP, that includes air. also arena paintbal is on some satilite channel(that i dont get http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif ) and is wayy different then reguler painball on a field. and only noobs use pallets for a bunker. and ive never seen it played on a basketball cort, cuz there to small really. and in the woods u only got as much paint as u can buy, and u dont got alot of air, cuz i doubt any noobs running around in the woods has a licenese to fill tanks. just my 3 cents

Tournament paintball is rough, fast, and hard. For you to be a champ either your playing in the wrong region or your pretty good. I'll go with you and your team being good, but you shouldnt bad mouth playing in the woods. Not everyone is fast enough to play in the open on speedball courts. Out there it's much different, playing in the woods sneaking around kinda evens things out as the fields are usually one sided so a good ref can take a group of players that would normally lose every game over to the good side of the field and you suddenly have a challenging fight going on! Also your comments on no one having air is totally off, I see over half the players with their own gear using HPA tanks wether they play at actual fields or renegade. Lots of them also have scuba tanks with equipment to get fills off the scuba tanks while out there on their own fields playing and having fun. Dont most surveys say most of the income from paintball is from the woodsball side? Tournys are awesome, I've only been in one but it was a blast! But after playing for nearly 10 years now I still prefer heading out to the woods since I'm just an average guy wanting to have fun and there's way more fun for me out in the bush than dodging between bunkers sweatin my butt off in the sun! Although I do play the speedball stuff now and then for a change of pace.

Far as the cost goes that Esel commented on I have to agree it can get pricey. He's completely right that some fields charge 25 or more just to play then 55 a case, field paint only so you cant use your own, then tax on that along with whatever you spend on food and gas to get there your close to 100 bucks for a day out. I'd get a group together and play for less on private field as well rather than pay all of that! Luckily I have a great place to go that isnt unrealistic, they have a yearly fee and field paint only but that's it and their paint isnt too expensive, 40 a case. If you dont use it all in one day you can bring your left overs with you the next weekend and not pay anything until you need more paint. I probably spend 25 a day to play which is reasonable and I never feel ripped off.

I dont know what you consider 'real paintball', but I think using pallets for bunkers, knocked down trees, and home made forts is just as good as sup air fields.