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M2morris
05-11-2006, 04:51 AM
I found this the other day and I was thinking maybe it was a C- model being used as a trainer. I noticed the 20MM gun barrels missing and the antenna post located to the rear of the cockpit. I think it is NOT a carrier deck, but a land based training strip.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/f4ucablegrab.jpg

smokincrater
05-11-2006, 05:04 AM
I dont belive that Corsairs had 20mm cannon fitted.

Anyhow remember that if the aircraft bounces the photographer has to shoot upwards from the ship to take the photo.So you will not have any referance such as water to guide you if the strip is an aircraft carrier or a strip.Seeing that land airfeilds dont deploy their arresting wires unless it is an emergency.I belive that it is an actual aircraft carrier.

MrMoonlight
05-11-2006, 05:13 AM
It isn't a C model. It's an F4U-4. Note the four bladed prop and the chin intake. Judging by the markings, I would think this is a postwar shot.

Tooz_69GIAP
05-11-2006, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by smokincrater:
I dont belive that Corsairs had 20mm cannon fitted.

Erm....yeah they did. The F4U-1C had 4x20mm. Vought produced 200 of the cannon armed F4U-1C and they first entered combat in April 1945. Although, the Americans didn't call them corsairs, it was the British that called them that.

smokincrater
05-11-2006, 05:20 AM
Well you learn something new every day I thought they were fitted with the standard 05 colt brownings.

And being Australian we would have called them the same as the British.

WarWolfe_1
05-11-2006, 06:07 AM
Thats a KTO F4u-4B as stated by moonlight.It does have 20mm cannon, the barrels dont jut out so far. No that is a Carrier deck, if you look close enough you can see the wood planking.

Asgeir_Strips
05-11-2006, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by smokincrater:
I dont belive that Corsairs had 20mm cannon fitted.

Erm....yeah they did. The F4U-1C had 4x20mm. Vought produced 200 of the cannon armed F4U-1C and they first entered combat in April 1945. Although, the Americans didn't call them corsairs, it was the British that called them that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uhhhm, i think you're wrong, of course they're called corsairs? what else would they be called? its the same aircraft with a different armament (the F4U-1C contra F4U-1A) they dont change the name of the aircraft if it has a gun modification.
that sounds silly to me.

but i do know that some american made planes was named by the british such as the Mustang (the mustang was a british request for a long range air superiority fighter) etc

DuxCorvan
05-11-2006, 01:57 PM
He refers to official naming. He tells the type was just named F4U by the USN. Then the British FAA, which always had 'baptised' its types called it 'Corsair'. The USN crews then adopted the name as its common 'nick', but -according to the previous poster- 'Corsair' was never an official denomination in USN designation files.

actionhank1786
05-11-2006, 04:28 PM
And they taught us how to land the damned things on carriers! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

VW-IceFire
05-11-2006, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by smokincrater:
Well you learn something new every day I thought they were fitted with the standard 05 colt brownings.

And being Australian we would have called them the same as the British.
If you've got Pacific Fighters, load up the F4U-1C and have a go with it. You'll be pleasantly surprised by the firepower http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It was called Corsair by all. But the USN officialdom called it F4U while the Royal Navy called it Corsair Mark...and then whatever. Just officialdom http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-HH- Beebop
05-11-2006, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by smokincrater:
... the standard 05 colt brownings.
Is this a Freudian slip based on the .50 calibers' performance? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

IL2-chuter
05-12-2006, 01:15 AM
I thought it was named Corsair by Vought making it the third Vought aircraft type named Corsair. If it was named by the British why was it being called Corsair two years before they got them?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

As to why the Brits put it to sea first, what other choice (that had any range) did they have? The USN had the Hellcat taking up the early carrier slots and the Marine's needed a land based plane to replace their few Wildcats . . . throw in the Corsair's deck handling problems . . . it doesn't take a rocket scientist . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

A friend of mine has a very late production FG1D that's made from an F2G airframe (factory). It doesn't exist on paper . . . looks just like an FG1D . . . but to do major repairs the FG1D SRM is out, gotta use the one for the F2G. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

carry on . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

M2morris
05-12-2006, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by actionhank1786:
And they taught us how to land the damned things on carriers! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I am just now checking back after posting this yesterday and I must say this is some intersting stuff, and yes I may have had a beer in me when I thought it was land based.
I do recall that the British were the ones who figured out how to land the F4U most-efficiently on a carrier by using a turn-in type of short-final in order to see the carrier deck to the side of the long nose. I have been forced to do that myself latley after turning to the realistic side.
And as to what Icefire said: I have been flying only the F4U-C in PF for a long time now and like he said, an enemy plane in your sites is bound to be in pieces soon.

WTE_Galway
05-12-2006, 01:42 AM
I did a google on "19 WR" and came up with this interesting offtopic page:

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/nukecat/nukecat1.htm

SPLASH_1
05-12-2006, 02:55 PM
The WR Tail code is for VMA/F-312 (Checkerboards)
Odd because there is no checkerboard around the nose just the marine insignia

http://www.airwar.ru/transfer/grishan///camms/ar/571/pics/3_11.jpg

M2morris
05-13-2006, 03:35 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SPLASH_1:
The WR Tail code is for VMA/F-312 (Checkerboards)
Odd because there is no checkerboard around the nose just the marine insignia

That is a good looking painting.
I think my next RC will be a Corsair, yep that's what I will do.
But back on-topic,I wonder since I haven't read much on the subject how it seems British were using F4Us but I don't recall ever hearing of them being in the European theatre, perhaps it was too late in the game for WW2.
Where were the Brits using them?


What's wrong with this picture? It should not take more than 10 seconds to find it.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/planegeek/4fu.jpg

M2morris
05-13-2006, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
I did a google on "19 WR" and came up with this interesting offtopic page:

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/nukecat/nukecat1.htm
What a wierd serch result. That is some serious looking stuff mamma told you not to go near. Nuke test data. Cool!
Makes me wonder how we are all not dead from radiation poisoning.
When I was a little kid camping with my dad in the Sierra Nevada mountains east of Fresno in the sixties he said he walked out from the camp late at nite to pee and he saw a flash of light in the nite sky that looked really wierd. Later he found out the flash was a nuke test from the SE.
But thats a cool find. Thnx for posting it.

R_Target
05-14-2006, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by actionhank1786:
And they taught us how to land the damned things on carriers! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Don't let Tom Blackburn hear you say that. According to him, the planes were fine after the spoiler was added and the gear was fixed. Everyone checked out fine on Bunker Hill in mid '43. Nervous higher-ups and the spare parts nightmare is what got VF-17 beached.