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ZoRRoOoOo2010
06-23-2010, 12:15 PM
OK. Maybie my reference to Mortal Kombat was a bit inaccurate. I just got played some older MK games recently and whaching those fatalities again after so many years I tought "man it`s cool to have the choise to do with your opponent whatever you want Smile" After you hear FINISH HIM!!! you could either just kick him or something to finish the fight or perform some gruesome kill to the guy Wink
Now I`M NOT SAYING THAT AN ASSASSIN SHOULD BRUTALY KILL GUARDS OR THAT THERE SHOULD BE BLOOD AND GUTS IN AC3 OR AC4!! NO!!!, but what if different button combinations allow your Assassin to perform different moves when you are assassinating a guy or doing different counter attacks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif That would give you more freedom in fighting/assassinating don`t you think ?
You could still just block somebody`s atack and slince him afterwards like before , but with more button pressing you could do more interesting stuff (cut a poor fellow`s head why not http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)The same I can say about the assassination - Since AC1 one of the best moments you get is Altair/Ezio jumping towards somebody and stabbing him with the blade, but doing that each time when you are spotted by an archer gets annoying doesn`t it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif ???
well what if YOU COULD KILL THE GUY IN LIKE 10 DIFFERENT WAYS ??? I`m sure there already are things going trough your head http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
I would like to see what you guys thing about that idea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

lilbacchant
06-23-2010, 12:26 PM
I don't know about 10 different ways, but a few would be cool. I'd be a happy camper if I could choose my counter-kills: dagger in the skull, anyone?

Mr_Shade
06-23-2010, 12:27 PM
I personally don't want to see buckets of blood and wiggly guts..

Being an Assassin takes skill.. and ideally you should make a clean get away.. thats a little hard if you're dripping in gore. . . lolhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

lilbacchant
06-23-2010, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
I personally don't want to see buckets of blood and wiggly guts..

Being an Assassin takes skill.. and ideally you should make a clean get away.. thats a little hard if you're dripping in gore. . . lolhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Well, ditto. But, c'mon, you're gonna tell me that in AC1 (assuming you used the short blade w/ any frequency), you didn't get all giddy on one of those rare occassions when your counter kill resulted in yanking the blade out of his skull? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ZoRRoOoOo2010
06-23-2010, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
I personally don't want to see buckets of blood and wiggly guts..

Being an Assassin takes skill.. and ideally you should make a clean get away.. thats a little hard if you're dripping in gore. . . lolhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I`m not saying a single strike should result in gallons of blood like in MK http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif My point is that you could have the freedom to assassinate foes in more ways than just jumping towards them and 'stab'.The same thing with counters: So far the best way to win a battle was holding the block button awaiting for a counter, but what if you could make different 'fatality-counters'
-Block-Counter + press another button/combination = different kill http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
That would make you try different combinations and play style than just holding Block all the time and just countering don`t you think ?

Mr_Shade
06-23-2010, 01:15 PM
don't mind me - I just go giddy at the sight of blood http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ZoRRoOoOo2010
06-23-2010, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
don't mind me - I just go giddy at the sight of blood http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Well there already is blood in assassins creed you know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifPlus I never sead anything about more blood , just more combat moves (see the first comment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bruno_Berg
06-23-2010, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
I personally don't want to see buckets of blood and wiggly guts..

Being an Assassin takes skill.. and ideally you should make a clean get away.. thats a little hard if you're dripping in gore. . . lolhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I agree with both the OP and you. A couple of more ways to kill guards could be pretty sweet, but lots of gore and blood ain't really the way to go in my opinion, neither is cutting their heads off. :P I really like the style of the kills in both AC and AC2. It's not just mindless, sloppy killing. It's done in such a beautiful way ( Makes me sound like a maniac but I can live with that ) The Assassin's got some class in their killing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mr_Shade
06-23-2010, 01:33 PM
lol I can see my sense of humor is not coming across in the posts.. so I'll leave you guys to it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bruno_Berg
06-23-2010, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
lol I can see my sense of humor is not coming across in the posts.. so I'll leave you guys to it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now you made me feel like a boring ****! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
But hey, it's the internet. Jokes and sarcasm are somewhat difficult sometimes haha. At least that'll be my excuse for being boring in this matter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

lilbacchant
06-23-2010, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
lol I can see my sense of humor is not coming across in the posts.. so I'll leave you guys to it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Speaking of which, am I the only one who ever wondered why Jason, Freddy, and the like, never had much, if any, blood and guts on them from scene to scene? It was almost like they had OCD and must've scoured w/ alcohol wipes after every kill.

[Apologies in advance for the OT turn ...]

lilbacchant
06-23-2010, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
I personally don't want to see buckets of blood and wiggly guts..

Being an Assassin takes skill.. and ideally you should make a clean get away.. thats a little hard if you're dripping in gore. . . lolhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Altair: "Even with the help of the PoE I can't find a good way to get blood stains out of these white robes ... I think I'll make some black armor."

EzioAssassin51
06-24-2010, 01:34 AM
So, sort of like in AC1 when (sometimes) Altiar would do a counter and you could either throw the guy to the ground (O on PS3), break his legs (X) or stab him (Square) to finish him off?

It would be pretty cool to have again!

Ru1986
06-24-2010, 01:56 AM
Mortal Combat is a bit primative IMO compared to AC games. The idea is good but needs more thought i think AC will move more towards the idea of dispatching enemeys as quickly as possible. I am not sure spending half an hour making a decission on what method you are going to choose to dispatch each enemey is the way UBI will go.

lilbacchant
06-24-2010, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by EzioAssassin51:
So, sort of like in AC1 when (sometimes) Altiar would do a counter and you could either throw the guy to the ground (O on PS3), break his legs (X) or stab him (Square) to finish him off?

It would be pretty cool to have again!

Really?! I thought in AC1 when you "stood them up" w/ a counter, all you could do was break their legs ... hmmm.

Account_Deleted
06-24-2010, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Shade:
don't mind me - I just go giddy at the sight of blood http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
ahha
i wonder how you got past SP:C or red dead
with being "giddy at the sight of blood "
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

ZoRRoOoOo2010
06-24-2010, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Ru1986:
Mortal Combat is a bit primative IMO compared to AC games. The idea is good but needs more thought i think AC will move more towards the idea of dispatching enemeys as quickly as possible. I am not sure spending half an hour making a decission on what method you are going to choose to dispatch each enemey is the way UBI will go.
OK. Maybie my reference to Mortal Kombat was a bit inaccurate. I just got played some older MK games recently and whaching those fatalities again after so many years I tought "man it`s cool to have the choise to do with your opponent whatever you want http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif" After you hear FINISH HIM!!! you could either just kick him or something to finish the fight or perform some gruesome kill to the guy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Now I`M NOT SAYING THAT AN ASSASSIN SHOULD BRUTALY KILL GUARDS OR THAT THERE SHOULD BE BLOOD AND GUTS IN AC3 OR AC4!! NO!!!
The whole idea is to have a more freedom in combat and assassinations(maybie just the high-profile ones http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)
The combat in Assassins Creed 2 was great!!
It had great counter-kill animations !
But at one point you got yourself holding the block button surrounded by 5-10 guards waiting for some of them to attack so you can counter kill him.This defensive-based system inspires too much use of the hidden blade instead of other cooler weapons , because following a succesfull counter you instantly kill the attacker. Well what if you got a system in which <span class="ev_code_RED">EACH WEAPON HAS AN INSTANT KILL ABILLITY</span> ? All you need to do is just press a few buttons quickly after the counter attack (Something like in Prince Of Persia 2008 when you got downed and attacked by an enemy and pressing the right button in the right moment would save you and a failure to do so would result in a death blow ) and you will kill the unlucky guy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I think the addition of many and different of those "interactive counter kills" would make us players wanna try different and more suffisticated combos http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
<span class="ev_code_BLUE">ABOUT HOW ASSASSINATIONS COULD BE</span>
Now <span class="ev_code_RED">Ru1986</span> you wouldn`t need half an hour to think of how to kill the 2569th guard/archer , you could just jump infront of him and "...ZZZGHHHH..." But what if we got smarter enemies in next AC games , which whon`t like just to sit there whaching how an assassin goes in Front Of Them And Stabs them ???
Imagine a guy with higher IQ than his fellow archers just spotted you on the roof , and getting down is the last thing a good assassin thinks about in this moment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You aproach him but when you try to stab him with one of the hidden blades he grabs your hand trying to pull it off , but then you pres (Let`s say) the 'Right Arm' button and punch him with your free hand , then you press 'Left Arm' button (the one with wich you strike) and finally kill him!!! Perhaps at the end stages of the game soldiers would be more cautios and you should need to do that more oftenly ,thus making different kill animation each time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Better than just like ONE AND THE SAME KILL EACH TIME wouldn`t be ??!! Man personaly I would gladly like to be spotted on the roofs again and again just to practice my assassination moves http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
That could also make assassinating key targets more fun, maybie some harder bosses will struggle to pull your blade off their throat making you fight with them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif press the right buttons quickly and you kill , fail and the target would get back on their feet and you got a straight up fight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

gamertam
06-24-2010, 06:44 PM
This Is An Assassin's Creed game and not Mortal Kombat. There are ways to improve a game and methods of killing. If you want to massacre a bunch of innocent people then go play MW2 where "there's no Russain" level. I'm not flaming @anyone just my thoughts and opinion.

EzioAssassin51
06-25-2010, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by ZoRRoOoOo2010:
But what if we got smarter enemies in next AC games , which whon`t like just to sit there whaching how an assassin goes in Front Of Them And Stabs them ???
Imagine a guy with higher IQ than his fellow archers just spotted you on the roof , and getting down is the last thing a good assassin thinks about in this moment http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You aproach him but when you try to stab him with one of the hidden blades he grabs your hand trying to pull it off , but then you pres (Let`s say) the 'Right Arm' button and punch him with your free hand , then you press 'Left Arm' button (the one with wich you strike) and finally kill him!!!

Actually, the AI is so muh more aggressive now so they will attack you the very second your gaurd is down!

Good suggestions but i don't think we should have the 'taking the hidden blade off ezio by the gaurds!' i mean, they can already stop if they did that a bit more it would be great!