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F19_Orheim
11-30-2005, 09:00 AM
I have been very happy with my X-45 and CH rudder setup so far. The only grieve I have had is that the JS of the X45 Hotas is a little bit imprecise, especially after a year and a halfs use. There are number of Joysticks on the market and the ones I have used with greatest satisfaction so far is the Logitechs - the problem was only that these got ruined after 3 months use, but in the beginning they were great.

I used to have a Logitech FFB which I have kept on the attic and totally forgot about. I stopped using it because back then (1999 when I bought it) there were no such thing as twitch rudder and the more I flew the more I realized that rudder is essential- and after disconnecting it I started to use Logitechs twist joysticks...

Now, when thinking about maybe buying a new JS I remember this BIG buldgy thingy on my attic and thought "Why not try to use it in combination with the X45 throttle and the CH rudder"? I know that there are a number of hardcore simmers who use the same setup with Microsoft FFB 2.

So I went up and put things together. Now one thing that has always seem hard to me is to set a profile on things in IL2 if you have more inputs than just 1.. you need to figure out the settings in the conf.ini So far with the X45 and the CH rudder I have used another guys conf.ini because I couldnt figure it out (or bothered to).

But with the help of the tool IL2 Stick Sensitivity Tool (http://airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm#087) it is VERY easy to change profiles on each and every input you have in your setup..¨


So here is my new setup and I am very happy with it. The old Logitech is holding up GREAT, and I have found theat my gunnery has improved, it is much more precise than the X45 JS. I have turned off the FFB though as it is a bit too "much".. the entire table shakes like crazy when I taxi http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Only problem is that these things take a LOT of space on the desk 8) and my wife thinks I have some kind of inferior problems regarding my "manhood" :?

http://www.saitek.com/swedish/images/page_graphics/thumbs/x45.gif http://www.softwareexpress.se/Shop/Image/Article/13553.jpg http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/1203.gif

ploughman
11-30-2005, 09:07 AM
http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/1203.gif

If your wife thinks you're compensating for your manhood with this, you must have grossly swollen testicles.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Seriously though, a good interface is vital for getting best results. I have a 4 year old sidewinder and, as such, have yet to shoot anything down on-whine. I understand that I'm also not very good.

F16_Neo
11-30-2005, 09:41 AM
Wtf a WORKING -99 Logi??? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Would almost cathegorise that as an exceptionally rare collectors-item! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

1.JaVA_Hornet
11-30-2005, 09:51 AM
That`s great.

I do use
- Saitek X52 throttle. the joystick for
2nd need appliances in il2
- ch rudders
- ch fighterstick

Its a great combination and indeed my shooting
is far better now.

Ebsy
11-30-2005, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by 1.JaVA_Hornet:
That`s great.

I do use
- Saitek X52 throttle. the joystick for
2nd need appliances in il2
- ch rudders
- ch fighterstick

Its a great combination and indeed my shooting
is far better now.

Essentially the same setup as me, although I use the x45 throttle. Can't fault the CH hardware at all (you'd think so too for the price! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

Ugly_Kid
11-30-2005, 11:12 AM
And I am using MS Precision Pro (the old one without FFB! - optical great piece of work)
then throttle from Saitek and Simped pedals.
I use joy2key to do all the mapping so that I can
use combos between throttle buttons and stick.
Only thing is that I need to keep the Saitek stick connected too - can't connect the throttle alone directly to USB...

Tully__
11-30-2005, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by F16_Neo:
Wtf a WORKING -99 Logi??? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Would almost cathegorise that as an exceptionally rare collectors-item! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The FFB logitechs seem to be a bit more reliable than the non-FFB varieties. Very few of the complaints about them have been for FFB's.

1.JaVA_Hornet
11-30-2005, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Ebsy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 1.JaVA_Hornet:
That`s great.

I do use
- Saitek X52 throttle. the joystick for
2nd need appliances in il2
- ch rudders
- ch fighterstick

Its a great combination and indeed my shooting
is far better now.

Essentially the same setup as me, although I use the x45 throttle. Can't fault the CH hardware at all (you'd think so too for the price! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


The saitek joystick isn`t good by bad deadzone!!

Estocade85
11-30-2005, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/1203.gif

If your wife thinks you're compensating for your manhood with this, you must have grossly swollen testicles.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Seriously though, a good interface is vital for getting best results. I have a 4 year old sidewinder and, as such, have yet to shoot anything down on-whine. I understand that I'm also not very good.

OMG you made me drink coke up my bloody nose!! ROFL

BTW, why isn't there close "copies" of hot new jet fighters, like Su-27 or Tornado, etc? Kinda like a cougar but for other, cooler planes?http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Tully__
11-30-2005, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by 1.JaVA_Hornet:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ebsy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 1.JaVA_Hornet:
That`s great.

I do use
- Saitek X52 throttle. the joystick for
2nd need appliances in il2
- ch rudders
- ch fighterstick

Its a great combination and indeed my shooting
is far better now.

Essentially the same setup as me, although I use the x45 throttle. Can't fault the CH hardware at all (you'd think so too for the price! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


The saitek joystick isn`t good by bad deadzone!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not a problem anymore, only early build X-52's had that problem and not even all of them.

Lucius_Esox
11-30-2005, 06:26 PM
Tully you know about these things http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif My FF2 is dying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I'm on the verge of buying an X52 but I seem to read bad things about the j/stick. Is it gonna be that much worse than my FF2 because I really wannt that X52 throttle but cash is an issue.

Sorry I know a bit ot

Chadburn
11-30-2005, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/1203.gif



Can I get one of the little joysticks when it gives birth?

Tully__
11-30-2005, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Lucius_Esox:
Tully you know about these things http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif My FF2 is dying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I'm on the verge of buying an X52 but I seem to read bad things about the j/stick. Is it gonna be that much worse than my FF2 because I really wannt that X52 throttle but cash is an issue.

Sorry I know a bit ot

It has no FFB and is very light in the springs but gives smooth precise response. For those who didn't get one of the early ones that had some deadband issues, reports are generally good. Be prepared for a very light control feel though.

Lucius_Esox
12-01-2005, 04:18 AM
Thx Tully,
I suppose I've gotta have a try of one b4 I buy really.

I hope it's not as "slack" as the FF2 gets when you alt-tab in and out of the game and the FF dies. The joystick has no resistance then !!!

If stronger than that I will be able to live with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

nakamura_kenji
12-01-2005, 04:29 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nakamura_kenji/cyborg3ddigitalstickgold.gif

i just cheap guess be use this for 3 year ^_^ still perfect though gold colour go by by ^_^