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thesaint1965
06-17-2010, 09:10 AM
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Thought we got a free download each Thursday?

bubbaganoosh
06-17-2010, 10:21 AM
It only means they ran out of useless crap to give away. Seriously, do Splinter Cells need another shotgun let alone the one we have now? I say they should start giving away that DLC to help ease the troubles so many in the PC community have experienced.

NYSP0186
06-17-2010, 11:00 AM
3E SHADOW ARMOR DUDE!!!

GuZZ33
06-17-2010, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by NYSP0186:
3E SHADOW ARMOR DUDE!!!
Awesome.
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HanzWolfgen
06-17-2010, 05:38 PM
IMO it looks far better / non-CRYSIS like (as it was intended) without the armours. Just the gadgets and extra bullets and it looks fine,.

gytamas88
06-18-2010, 05:14 AM
Nice to know that some of us had to actually pay for it and now they are releasing it for free. I wonder when the insurgency pack dlc will be free to download too... Oh and why not just send everyone a copy of the OST CD with the figure for free just for fun?
It was the first and last time I bought a limited edition set from Ubi thats for sure... :/

GuZZ33
06-18-2010, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by HanzWolfgen:
IMO it looks far better / non-CRYSIS like (as it was intended) without the armours. Just the gadgets and extra bullets and it looks fine,.
Looks good either way imho, just something different.

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GuZZ33
06-18-2010, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by gytamas88:
Nice to know that some of us had to actually pay for it and now they are releasing it for free.I bought a limited edition set.
The shadow armor and some weapons were/are classed as early access rather than only accessible to only those that paid for a limited edition for example. Those that purchased the limited editions paid extra for the included books, comic, decal stickers, usb drive, and maybe a figurine of sam fisher. I purchased the SCC "shadow" edition that cost the same price as the standard edition but included early access to "shadow armor" "sc3000" and "spas-12 silenced shotgun". I don't have a problem with others that bought only the standard edition having a later acceess to weapons and outfits, but i would be a bit angry for paying for the insurgency map pack and others getting it for free from Ubisoft, and that's with regards to the XBOX 360 version too.

bubbaganoosh
06-18-2010, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by gytamas88:
Nice to know that some of us had to actually pay for it and now they are releasing it for free. I wonder when the insurgency pack dlc will be free to download too... Oh and why not just send everyone a copy of the OST CD with the figure for free just for fun?
It was the first and last time I bought a limited edition set from Ubi thats for sure... :/

I agree. They sure have big balls to pull this off. I bought the LE now they give stuff away for free that was "exclusive". I don't think I'll be giving any more money to UBI from here on. I have been a fan of alot of UBI games but since they made such a mess of SCC and pull this kind of crap they lost a customer.

Thing is even if they read this they don't care. This whole fiasco is proof they don't care about the people who buy their games.

fiszunio
06-18-2010, 10:28 AM
Oh great. I bought only Collector's Edition as they said it includes "Exclusive In-game Shadow Armor skin". Well ubisoft you call this fuc***g exclusive? I had to wait month anyway because you cant even make good server that accepts *******g codes. And now what? Any person that have SCC have it for free? Rly? You only said that weapons was early acces and 3E Shadow Armor was exclusive. Well maybe you will soon giveaway games for free year after release? That would be cool. I wont buy any CE that will have "Exclusive DLC" from you. Not worth.

KenTWOu
06-18-2010, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by bubbaganoosh:
I agree. They sure have big balls to pull this off. I bought the LE now they give stuff away for free that was "exclusive". I don't think I'll be giving any more money to UBI from here on. I have been a fan of alot of UBI games but since they made such a mess of SCC and pull this kind of crap they lost a customer.
Instead of bying cheap edition of the Ubisoft game next time, you said, that UBI lost a customer! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Where is your logic, man?

When Valve made Steam for Mac (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/05/free-portal/), they gave Portal to everybody for free! Free! Entire game for FREE!

I bought Portal, but I like the fact that more people (including my friends) could legally play this game for free. Because Portal is very awesome and very interesting brain-twister game!

Because I am not greedy, but you are! Whining here because of free unlockable content. it's just an armour, man!

bubbaganoosh
06-18-2010, 11:04 AM
My logic is based on principle. To me it's not the right way to do business. How would you feel if you bought a car from a dealer who told you "For an extra $300 you can have a body kit added". You think it's a great deal so you pay the extra. Then a month later your friend buys the same car and the dealer throws the same kit in for free.

The shadow Armour was a selling feature to pre-order the game. They said exclusive to pre-order customers then they give it away. It was only an extra $5 but it is still money for something they now give away for free. By rights they should be giving the pre-order customers their $5 back or something of equal value. They should have said they are going to give these pre-order exclusives away later anyways somewhere other than the fine print somwhere in an obscure part of their website.

You obviously don't get it. You may be happy getting screwed when you deal with businesses or people but I do not. I think you need to understand the word greed before you call me that.

From Wiki for you:

"Greed is an excessive desire to possess wealth or goods."

I already posess said goods so how am I greedy? I have no problem with UBI giving crap away the problem I have is when they tell one group it's exclusive for supporting pre-sales then turn around and give it away. That is unethical to me and I no longer want to deal with a company that operates that way.

gytamas88
06-18-2010, 11:29 AM
I totally agree with you bubbaganoosh.
Btw in my case it came with the LE and there weren't any pre-order extras (not even the silenced shotgun) but...

Originally posted by GuZZ33:
I purchased the SCC "shadow" edition that cost the same price as the standard edition but included early access to "shadow armor" "sc3000" and "spas-12 silenced shotgun".
...the shadow armor was not an early access extra but exclusive content unlike as in your case as you say GuZZ33. Idk about later released editions and their cost as I bought the Edition with the exclusive armor, EA guns, figure, OST CD, steelcase and infil mode the day it came out in the stores.

(Interesting fact for whom (actually Hungarians) it may concern: In Hungary they only released 1000 copies of this Limited edition and all of them were bought buy CD galaxy leaving 576 and the other stores in the well yeah, in that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

Falzar
06-18-2010, 11:31 AM
why you complain?...everyone who bought collectors edition or limited edition paid for the stuff that was with the game and for some early access to ingame content...so i will never get the official disc of soundtracks like you or the steelbox or the figurine of Sam etc...But complain that you paid for shadow armor is wrong because this stuff is already in the disc so that means that when i bought the standard edition i paid for this stuff me too...
if it was an armor that was created apart from the content that the game had then you should complain if it was released to all..
PS: spas-12 is already in the disc too so you know that eventually will be released....

bubbaganoosh
06-18-2010, 11:51 AM
I bought the Steam version and it was marketed as "Exclusive". Well it doesn't appear to be that after all so I would call it false advertising.

KenTWOu
06-18-2010, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by bubbaganoosh:
My logic is based on principle. To me it's not the right way to do business. How would you feel if you bought a car from a dealer who told you "For an extra $300 you can have a body kit added". You think it's a great deal so you pay the extra. Then a month later your friend buys the same car and the dealer throws the same kit in for free.
Well, let's talk about PC hardware instead. When nVidia/ATI release new video card they can set very high starting price, because the demand is always very high for new products. And Then they always bring down their price, cause the demand becames lower and lower within 2 or 3 months.

The same situation with mobile phones, with computer games, with lots of stuff. This is how economics should works. It's your choice to hurry up to be the first or to wait for a while, but be the second. As a matter of fact your principle is in direct contradiction to the basic economics law of supply and demand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also read here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_life_cycle_management_(marketing)) what's happened with prices during life cycle of almost every product.


And by the way, dealer can't throw the same kit in for free. This is cheating, cause kit included in whole purchase price. Actually the whole price of the car is go down. And $300 is special discount for people which buy a car with that kit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

bubbaganoosh
06-18-2010, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by KenTWOu:

And by the way, dealer can't throw the same kit in for free. This is cheating, cause kit included in whole purchase price. Actually the whole price of the car is go down. And $300 is special discount for people which buy a car with that kit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

This was just an example to illustrate my point. Because you are talking on behalf of this fictional dealer I'll give you another example.

You buy a computer at a computer store for $500. The salesman says if you buy it now the manufacturer will add an extra gig of RAM for only $50. He also says that any of these same computers bought after that day will not have the offer. You think it's a good idea so you buy it with the extra RAM.

A month later that exact same computer is selling at the same store for the same price you paid ($500) but it has the extra RAM in it for no charge. Do you think this is right? Do you think that you should get your $50 back since they are giving away the RAM now?

Yes I understand prices drop on things all the time but the manufacturer of the laptop knew, before you bought it, they would give away that RAM in a month. They don't make these decisions over night. Decisions like this are made months ahead of that computer even hitting the shelf.

UBI has done exactly the same thing. They already had a schedule of these freebies way before the game came out. How else would you explain the fact you see them in game but they aren't accesible. UBI knew they would give away the Shadow Armour and Shotgun and whatever else the pre-order people got but yet they charged for this very same content for the pre-orders. They shouldn't have marketed it as exclusive when clearly it isn't.

Yes they may have had somewhere in the EULA or in some small print somewhere they would give it away but that is the same as not telling you in my opinion. If they put it right beside the pre-order "These items will be given away at a later date" how many pre-orders would they have got? I would say maybe 10% of what they had.

I understand supply and demand and all that (believe it or not) but this is plain and simple misrepresentation. Again, it's not the money it's how they did it that I have a problem with.

gytamas88
06-18-2010, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by bubbaganoosh:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KenTWOu:
... I understand supply and demand and all that (believe it or not) but this is plain and simple misrepresentation. Again, it's not the money it's how they did it that I have a problem with.
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Originally posted by Falzar:
...But complain that you paid for shadow armor is wrong because this stuff is already in the disc so that means that when i bought the standard edition i paid for this stuff me too...


I'm not going to give you an exact example (although I could) but there are lots of softwares you can buy for a certain prise and you get the whole pack and only if you pay a bit more can you unlock the additional or full content.
You didn't pay for the DVD but the content written on the back. Any additional free unlocked content is good for the costumer but when the seller doesn't tell the buyers who invest more money in the additional content that what they are giving away extra money for is going to be unlocked for free for everyone in time where is the fairness? This is what my problem is.

I bet as bubbaganoosh said fewer people would've bought the special edition sets if they/we knew this was the case and don't tell me you knew for sure that these extras will be unlocked for free in time cause only the development team could've known it (possibly even before they started making the game).

jakal66
06-18-2010, 04:42 PM
God, people really like to complain, and due it was obvious,because if they're going to give free dlc every week they will use everything already made and in the disc because there's no way they'll do something new,this game is done!Everything that will come for free will be stuff that was previously unreleased,and I don't think they breached contract, probably somewhere it must be written that these extras were only early access and not exclusive,I don't think UBI would make that kind of mistake without covering their behind,legally that is.
I have sympathy for you guys who paid more and then realize that everybody was going to get it eventually,but it goes to show you that these days you gotta be more carefull where u put your money,you are all so crazy about special editions,exclusive content,preorders,that then you get ra pe d by these companies and the crying begins...of course i'm on your side guys but the matter of the fact is I waited,didn't pay for crap and I got the same stuff you do,
next time wait...although you have other things you did pay for which I dont own and never will so...

OFPN_Shadow
06-19-2010, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by jakal66:
probably somewhere it must be written that these extras were only early access and not exclusive,I don't think UBI would make that kind of mistake without covering their behind,legally that is.
The advertisement said that the weapons were early-access and that the infiltration mode could be bought with Uplay points. The shadow armour was listed as an exclusive item. However they didnt say it would not be free for all after 6 weeks. On the other hand, that would have been bad advertisement.
I'm just waiting for Ubi to pull the plug on all items because this is what it reads in very tiny letters on my so-called "exclusive unlocks" card:
Ubisoft may cancel access to online features upon a 30-day prior notice published at www.splintercell.com (http://www.splintercell.com).
Thanks to Ubi's DRM the entire product is an online feature.
The irony of it all is that it took Ubisoft 5 weeks to straighten out my unlocks but just one week later the shadow armour is free for all.
Have I lost all respect for Ubisoft from a business standpoint and as a customer? You answer that.

KenTWOu
06-19-2010, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by bubbaganoosh:
I understand supply and demand and all that (believe it or not) but this is plain and simple misrepresentation. Again, it's not the money it's how they did it that I have a problem with.
I'm glad to see that you understand this economics stuff, and I see your point about misrepresentation. I think you are partially right. But as I said before, it's your choice. Don't hurry up next time.


May be I was very sharp, I'm sorry for this. But it's because I think that any software exclusiveness kills video gaming. Simply I don't like situation when somebody got it all, but somebody even hasn't option to got it.

Look at the Assassn's Creed 2 DLC page (http://assassinscreed.uk.ubi.com/assassins-creed-2/dlc/), for example. These three Templar secret locations are not accessible ONLY for PC gamers. And this is really bad. I got mine, because Ubisoft send me the unlock code as a gift for my DRM problems during the first week.

Now I know that these locations are very cool. But Ubisoft sells all three of them only in few exclusive PC collector's editions of the game. Well, if we already bought DVD of this game and want all three locations we need to buy more expensive edition, we need to buy the same game again! This is annoying!

And unfortunately there are a lot of situations like that.

Sgt_Pepper2010
06-19-2010, 01:29 PM
ohhh, thanks Ubisoft, thanks for giving away an "Exclusive" addon for free, just lovely, I won't give you any more money, just to make it clear http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I wonder how else Ubisoft going to screw to its payin customers, is there anything they haven't done yet? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ForceReconNeo
06-19-2010, 01:42 PM
i paid 10 bucks more and personally dont give a rat's *** if the next guy paid a little less and eventually got it, in fact its the best skin/model they have, non-coop.

AoF.GrzegorzG
06-20-2010, 04:59 AM
Sgt_Pepper2010: ohhh, thanks Ubisoft, thanks for giving away an "Exclusive" addon for free, just lovely, I won't give you any more money, just to make it clear

Big thx someone mention it . What need to be said now, Ubi tricked us greatly. We , who have limited edition , this content should be exclusive content , like it should be and like was it named, but they make it public, Then what the hell with this EXCLUSIVE content, now this is public. so we dont have to get LCE to get it it seems. Another thing that cant be forgiven. They are wise . so ****ing wise. What do you think of it guys.

arcubilis2
06-20-2010, 07:40 AM
I think you're a poet and you don't even know it.

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HanzWolfgen
06-20-2010, 12:08 PM
Well, Those who paid for the IN-DISC exclusive contents and are right now feeling offended by Ubi's gave aways have a legitimate case. But those who paid for the ordinary version (and subsequently all the contents in it) have a right to access all the IN-DISK contents they paid for too.

Both sides have their examples and analogies.

There is one difference thou. The limited edition came with far more things than the Shadow armour / Spas12 alone, and they are the OST disc, the figurine and the SCCCarabiner Torch / Flashdrive, however they are Not IN-DISK contents therefore those who paid for the ordinary version have no right to them except everything that comes within the DISK which everybody did paid for.

Can you prove, beyond all reasonable doubt that you bought the LE for the Shadow Armour alone?

Those who paid for the ordinary version have the right to access all the IN-DISK contents and those who paid for the limited edition may not opposse to it for the simple reason that prohibition of the use causes a greater damage to more people.

Im sure more people bought the ordinary version, which supersedes certain economic priorities.

Sorry fellas, being a victim of bad business is not equivalent to being a victim of fraud.

OFPN_Shadow
06-21-2010, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by HanzWolfgen:
Well, Those who paid for the IN-DISC exclusive contents and are right now feeling offended by Ubi's gave aways have a legitimate case. But those who paid for the ordinary version (and subsequently all the contents in it) have a right to access all the IN-DISK contents they paid for too.

Both sides have their examples and analogies.

There is one difference thou. The limited edition came with far more things than the Shadow armour / Spas12 alone, and they are the OST disc, the figurine and the SCCCarabiner Torch / Flashdrive
You're combining all the different edition into one.
The regular collectors edition comes with the figurine, OST and the shadow armour. All the other extras are in other pre-order or store-specific packs.

Those who paid for the ordinary version have the right to access all the IN-DISK contents and those who paid for the limited edition may not opposse to it for the simple reason that prohibition of the use causes a greater damage to more people.
What a load of horse****. Are you serious?

So if I buy Windows 7 Home Premium I have the right to unlock it to Ultimate edition for free just because all the files are on the disc?
Different licenses can share files. That doesnt mean you can buy the cheapest version and get the premium content for free.

bubbaganoosh
06-21-2010, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by OFPN_Shadow:

So if I buy Windows 7 Home Premium I have the right to unlock it to Ultimate edition for free just because all the files are on the disc?
Different licenses can share files. That doesnt mean you can buy the cheapest version and get the premium content for free.

Exactly.

AoF.GrzegorzG
06-22-2010, 12:19 AM
well i bought LCE pre pack, not only for this armor and weapon. but this content shoudn't be named exclusive any more. i know and cant deny what u guys saying but isn't it a bit unfair.


OFPN_Shadow : "The irony of it all is that it took Ubisoft 5 weeks to straighten out my unlocks but just one week later the shadow armour is free for all.
You said exactly what upssets me the most. Then whats they point in doing things.They are no respectfull like they were before im afraid.

thesaint1965
06-23-2010, 02:48 PM
Wonder if this weeks content is another exclusive give away?
Time for something new I think, something useful.

Falzar
06-23-2010, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by thesaint1965:
Wonder if this weeks content is another exclusive give away?
Time for something new I think, something useful.

well something tells me that this week will have the last free content and it will be spas-12....but maybe i am wrong but maybe i am not....who knows.......

AoF.GrzegorzG
06-25-2010, 09:18 AM
you're not the only one who thinks that way ,
i doubt they make something new. and i think this may be over free contents. since they are to ...... to make something new, so they give away exlusives. also from the topics i judge their Insurgency pack may also be a failure. i dont have a damn ****ing clue what they doing, they wants to fix game but they screw up , issues with paid dlc, giving away exclusives, no more new contents for quite a while. i think ubi lost all of credit in my eyes for doing this