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majnos64
08-19-2006, 10:52 AM
I ve got a problem doing outside loop. It is maneuvre you start in inverted flight and push joystick forward to do a loop. Problem is to start and finish this maneuvre in the same speed and altitude. I ve read in memories of our fighter ace Frantisek Perina (17 kills) he was able to do this maneuvre with his Avia B-534 and Curtiss Hawk P-36. So I think it's possible to do this with light fighters as well. What is your experience ?

p-11.cAce
08-19-2006, 10:59 AM
I can do it in the Emil but I always finish at a lower altitude - I think if I get the entry speed right I could nail it.

DuxCorvan
08-19-2006, 11:06 AM
Inverted loops are terribly hard stunts that exposes both the pilot and the plane to huge negative Gs and a lot of structural stress. Many WW2 planes couldn't do it without compromising the integrity of the aircraft. I wouldn't even try if not in a very rugged mount. B.534 was possibly very tough structurally, tho.

Waldo.Pepper
08-19-2006, 09:48 PM
Go rent the Great Waldo Pepper. - couldn't resist. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FritzGryphon
08-19-2006, 10:07 PM
The trick I find is to start the manuever quite gently, and maximize the time spent travelling upward, before reaching the top of the loop.

If you reach the apex too quickly, you won't have enough altitude to complete the second half of the loop without dropping below your starting point.

You should be able to do an outside loop with anything, provided you have enough speed to start. Use nose down trim if the control is too heavy.

jensenpark
08-20-2006, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
Go rent the Great Waldo Pepper. - couldn't resist. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


LOL - good one you clever bastage!

That was a good movie...

wayno7777
08-20-2006, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
Go rent the Great Waldo Pepper. - couldn't resist. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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TeufelHund84
08-20-2006, 07:13 PM
If this maneuver is what I think it is, wouldn't it be a HUGE no-no, causing massive pilot redout?

Divine-Wind
08-20-2006, 07:27 PM
I can do it. I just always happen to 'stick it.' I do get a 9.5 consistently, though.

Roflmao @ Waldo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

WB_Outlaw
08-20-2006, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by TeufelHund84:
If this maneuver is what I think it is, wouldn't it be a HUGE no-no, causing massive pilot redout?

Depends on the pilot and the load factor you pull through the maneuver.

--Outlaw.

isooAntti
08-21-2006, 02:11 AM
Ich tried...but zere vere no room left in ze flugzeug when der dicke Herman should show me... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif


...and in ze bonker there's no room http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

majnos64
08-23-2006, 10:30 AM
I found trick to do this maneuvre in this sim. Trick is: you have to take in dive speed around 600kph. Then go inverted. Then push gently stick forward. And on top of a loop you have a minimal speed its about 130-160kph depending on type of aircraft. Between minimal speed and 250kph you have to push hard stick forward to have about -100-(-110) degrees of elevation and then you finish outside loop same speed same altitude tested with FW-190A4(5)