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tmrtex
12-26-2006, 02:26 PM
Hi all. Seems to be lots of knowledgable people in this forum, maybe someone can help me out with a prob.

I'm sure the "stuttering video" thing has been discussed before, (I've read some of the posts). I experience video "stuttering" periodically in PF...seems to occur just before an audio file loads (such as radio chatter), or while audio files are playing (rockets firing, bombs, ect...). Doesn't seem to matter what graphics (or audio) settings I use...and I've tryed many.

INTEL 840 dual core 2.8 GHz
1 gb ram
ATI Radeon x1600 Pro (512 ram)
RealTek soundcard (integrated)

Any ideas?

Thanks

hamselv2
12-26-2006, 04:15 PM
Disable the onboard soundcard in BIOS, and install an Audigy 2 or X-Fi soundcard. Both cards are good, although the X-Fi is better.

tmrtex
12-26-2006, 10:45 PM
Pretty frustrating. I installed a SoundBlaster Audigy 4, and didn't help the "stuttering" problem. So...I reset all in-game video and audio settings to the lowest possible available. Then did a clean boot eliminating all unneccessary programs running in the background. I even opened up the computer case and pointed a 20" fan into the case to be sure there isn't a heat prob with the ATI Radeon x1600.

No change, grapics still stutter. Any other ideas? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Waldo.Pepper
12-27-2006, 12:29 AM
Might not be sound related. Find out.

Firstly; turn sound off in the il2setup.exe panel. Then reboot the machine, and fly a couple of missions. If the stuttering stops then you know it is sound related and you can focus on settings in that area.

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tmrtex
12-27-2006, 02:25 AM
Well...disabled sound in the game, rebooted, ran the game.

Same thing. The stutter occurs only during periods in a mission where there is heavier activity with multiple objects that includes: (bombs, rockets, or voice sound files ect..)

If I just "fly around" without any other activity going on, I can use the highest graphic settings available, no problem.

Thanks for your help.

Waldo.Pepper
12-27-2006, 03:39 AM
Welcome, for whatever I can do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ok so its likely NOT sound related then. Your machine and my machine are rather similar. We have the identical video card, I have 2gig ram, but you have a dual core to my traditional cpu. So this may not be too bad.

Try these settings for video from the IL2setup screens.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/video%20setup/videotab1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/video%20setup/videotab2.jpg

Next if you have the ATI icon in the system tray check this as well.

Right click, ATI Radeon X1600 Series, 3D settings -

Anti-Alias -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/video%20setup/videotab3b.jpg

Anisotropic -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/video%20setup/videotab4b.jpg

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tmrtex
12-27-2006, 11:36 AM
Tryed your settings and got the same result (no change). Changing the Radeon x1600 3D settings and then closing Catalyst caused an immediate reboot (??) Is that normal?

FoolTrottel
12-27-2006, 12:41 PM
Is that normal?
Nope. That's not normal.


I installed a SoundBlaster Audigy 4

In what slot did you put the Audigy?
Some benefit by putting it in the bottom slot, or the one the furthest away from the Video card...
What's yer power supply like? Can it handle it all?

You could do the following:
Post a DxDiag Report (http://www.airwarfare.com/guides/luckyboys_guide.htm#012), or maybe start a new thread in the Community Help Forum (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/49310655) and post it in there (Community Help has more technically orientated ppl watching... just in case it can't be fixed in this thread....)

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Yambretta
12-27-2006, 12:54 PM
You haven't posted what frame rate you are getting when the action starts causing stuttering.

I suggest you download Fraps (http://www.fraps.com/download.php) then work out how low your framerate is.
If it's dropping into low teens or single figures that may be your problem and m8's here can help with better vid settings.

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tmrtex
12-27-2006, 01:21 PM
Audigy is in bottom slot (farthest from video card). I reinstalled Catalyst driver (actually a newer version I think). No more "insta-boot" issues, but no change to stutter prob. Power supply is bare bones minimum, but I didn't suspect that as an issue because of the "timing" of the stuttering (around sound files, and heavier game activity). Could be wrong there, I'll probably upgrade it.

I have downloaded FRAPS, never used it before so I'll give it a whirl. (Don't know how to check frame rates, but I'll figure it out.

Again, thanks for everyones help.

Game costs $20, need $2500 to run it!

Here's the DX Diag report:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/27/2006, 15:06:45
Machine name: YOUR-4DACD0EA75
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: EX275AA-ABA a1530n
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Page File: 330MB used, 2125MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: None
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were successful.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found. DirectPlay test results: All tests were successful.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: Radeon X1600 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: Radeon X1600 Series (0x71C2)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C2&SUBSYS_23421002&REV_00
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: SyncMaster 204T/204Ts/204B,SyncMaster Magic CX201Ts(Analog)
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6652 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 11/21/2006 22:25:23, 261120 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 11/21/2006 22:25:08, 2829824 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-3282-11CF-4E6A-4803A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x71C2
SubSys ID: 0x23421002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: SB Audigy 4 [EE00]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_10211102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1161 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 6/18/2005 00:53:28, 438784 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 62
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 62
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: SB Audigy 4 [EE00]
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1161 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/18/2005 00:53:28, 438784 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: Enabled
Ports: SB Audigy 4 DirectMusic Synthesizer [EE00], Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
SB Audigy 4 [EE00], Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 4 Synth A [EE00] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 4 Sw Synth [EE00] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
SB Audigy 4 Synth B [EE00] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: All tests were successful.

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Micr
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0095
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Micr
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0095
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Logitech Extreme 3D Pro USB
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC215
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x27C9
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/9/2004 16:00:00, 4736 bytes
|
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0095
| | Location: Microsoft IntelliMouse® Explorer
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_03&subclass_01
| | Service: HidUsb
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 8/3/2004 23:08:20, 36224 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 8/3/2004 23:08:18, 24960 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 8/9/2004 23:00:00, 20992 bytes
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 8/17/2001 14:02:20, 9600 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant consumer control device
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0095
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_up:000c_u:0001
| | | Driver: hidserv.dll, 8/4/2004 02:56:44, 21504 bytes
| | |
| +-+ HID-compliant consumer control device
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0095
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_up:000c_u:0001
| | | Driver: hidserv.dll, 8/4/2004 02:56:44, 21504 bytes
| | |
| +-+ Microsoft USB IntelliMouse Explorer 4.0 (IntelliPoint)
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0095
| | | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_045e&pid_0095&col01
| | | Upper Filters: Point32
| | | Service: mouhid
| | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 12:48:00, 12160 bytes
| | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 21:58:34, 23040 bytes
| | | Driver: point32.sys, 12/1/2005 14:57:58, 21760 bytes
| | | Driver: ipcoin7.dll, 12/4/2005 15:38:16, 133904 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Enhanced Mulmedia PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: acpi\pnp0303
| Upper Filters: PS2
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/3/2004 22:14:38, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 21:58:34, 24576 bytes
| Driver: PS2.sys, 12/12/2005 16:27:00, 19072 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/3/2004 19:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/3/2004 21:58:34, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/3/2004 19:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/3/2004 21:58:34, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
----------------------------
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: All tests were successful.
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
-------------------
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider: Agere Systems PCI-SV92PP Soft Modem
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM3
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
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Gunship! (DX7) - Registry: OK, ExeFile: Gunship.exe ()

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 209.1 GB
Total Space: 229.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3250824AS

Drive: D:
Free Space: 0.5 GB
Total Space: 9.0 GB
File System: FAT32
Model: ST3250824AS

Drive: E:
Model: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552L
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/9/2004 16:00:00, 49536 bytes

Drive: J:
Model: SONY CD-RW CRX230EE
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/9/2004 16:00:00, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DF&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&F9
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 15:51:52, 3328 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:59:42, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 00:59:44, 95360 bytes

Name: Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DC&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_01\4&1AF1648C&0&40F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\e100b325.sys, 8.00.0021.0000 (English), 6/13/2005 07:58:04, 162816 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Prounstl.exe, 8.00.0007.0000 (English), 6/15/2005 08:27:42, 126976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\e100b325.din, 5/19/2005 02:38:26, 5178 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NicCo32.dll, 1.00.0005.0000 (English), 6/14/2005 17:08:42, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NicIn32.dll, 9.00.0002.0000 (English), 5/19/2005 02:28:12, 21504 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\e100bmsg.dll, 8.00.0020.0000 (English), 6/16/2005 02:48:24, 36864 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller - 27DA
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DA&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CC&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&EF
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.2644 (English), 3/30/2005 20:13:52, 27008 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 02:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 57600 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/9/2004 16:00:00, 7168 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CB&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&EB
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 02:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CA&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&EA
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 02:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C9&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&E9
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 02:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C8&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&E8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 02:56:48, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 01:08:44, 57600 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801GR/GH SATA RAID Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C3&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&FA
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\iaStor.sys, 5.05.0000.1035 (English), 10/12/2005 14:07:12, 874240 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801GH (ICH7DH) LPC Interface Controller - 27B0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27B0&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&F8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 15:58:02, 35840 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 945G/GZ/P/PL PCI Express Root Port - 2771
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2771&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/9/2004 16:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 945G/GZ/P/PL Processor to I/O Controller - 2770
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2770&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_E1\3&2411E6FE&0&F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/9/2004 16:00:00, 68224 bytes

Name: Agere Systems PCI-SV92PP Soft Modem
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11C1&DEV_0620&SUBSYS_062011C1&REV_00\4&1AF1648C&0&28F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\AGRSM.sys, 2.01.0065.0000 (English), 1/25/2006 11:24:30, 1149888 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\agrsmdel.exe, 1.07.0000.0000 (English), 1/26/2006 09:35:18, 68096 bytes

Name: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_2A3B103C&REV_C0\4&1AF1648C&0&08F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/9/2004 16:00:00, 61056 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/9/2004 16:00:00, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/9/2004 23:00:00, 61824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/9/2004 23:00:00, 60800 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/17/2001 00:46:40, 6400 bytes

Name: Creative SB Audigy 4 (WDM)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_10211102&REV_00\4&1AF1648C&0&20F0
Driver: n/a

Name: Radeon X1600 Series Secondary
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71E2&SUBSYS_23431002&REV_00\4&16B5016D&0&0108
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6652 (English), 11/21/2006 22:25:08, 2829824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0009 (English), 11/21/2006 21:55:46, 49152 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativvpxx.vp, 11/21/2006 22:59:55, 37920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativckxx.vp, 8/23/2006 17:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.vp, 8/23/2006 17:26:59, 929 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 8/23/2006 17:26:59, 655842 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativdkxx.vp, 8/23/2006 17:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6652 (English), 11/21/2006 22:25:23, 261120 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0322 (English), 11/21/2006 21:51:50, 294912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 11/21/2006 22:19:55, 26112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0456 (English), 11/21/2006 22:12:27, 2526688 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0010.0130 (English), 11/21/2006 22:08:16, 1090016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 10/19/2006 10:16:05, 138101 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dat, 11/21/2006 22:07:59, 3107788 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0008 (English), 11/21/2006 22:17:58, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4200 (English), 11/21/2006 21:56:25, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 11:01:04, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4152 (English), 11/21/2006 22:18:37, 430080 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4152 (English), 11/21/2006 22:19:41, 90112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2513 (English), 11/21/2006 22:20:11, 118784 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0019 (English), 11/21/2006 22:20:01, 106496 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2509 (English), 11/21/2006 22:19:50, 42496 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atikvmag.dll, 6.14.0010.0043 (English), 11/21/2006 21:57:31, 217088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGR.dll, 1.02.2516.38439 (English), 11/21/2006 21:21:19, 303104 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 10/17/2006 19:20:26, 6223 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.6232 (English), 11/21/2006 22:11:19, 5279744 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglx1.dll, 6.14.0010.1091 (English), 11/21/2006 21:50:55, 6684672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.4004 (English), 11/21/2006 21:49:45, 307200 bytes

Name: Radeon X1600 Series
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_71C2&SUBSYS_23421002&REV_00\4&16B5016D&0&0008
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6652 (English), 11/21/2006 22:25:08, 2829824 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0009 (English), 11/21/2006 21:55:46, 49152 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativvpxx.vp, 11/21/2006 22:59:55, 37920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativckxx.vp, 8/23/2006 17:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.vp, 8/23/2006 17:26:59, 929 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 8/23/2006 17:26:59, 655842 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ativdkxx.vp, 8/23/2006 17:26:56, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6652 (English), 11/21/2006 22:25:23, 261120 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0322 (English), 11/21/2006 21:51:50, 294912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 11/21/2006 22:19:55, 26112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0456 (English), 11/21/2006 22:12:27, 2526688 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0010.0130 (English), 11/21/2006 22:08:16, 1090016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 10/19/2006 10:16:05, 138101 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dat, 11/21/2006 22:07:59, 3107788 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0008 (English), 11/21/2006 22:17:58, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4200 (English), 11/21/2006 21:56:25, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 11:01:04, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4152 (English), 11/21/2006 22:18:37, 430080 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4152 (English), 11/21/2006 22:19:41, 90112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2513 (English), 11/21/2006 22:20:11, 118784 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0019 (English), 11/21/2006 22:20:01, 106496 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2509 (English), 11/21/2006 22:19:50, 42496 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atikvmag.dll, 6.14.0010.0043 (English), 11/21/2006 21:57:31, 217088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGR.dll, 1.02.2516.38439 (English), 11/21/2006 21:21:19, 303104 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 10/17/2006 19:20:26, 6223 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.6232 (English), 11/21/2006 22:11:19, 5279744 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglx1.dll, 6.14.0010.1091 (English), 11/21/2006 21:50:55, 6684672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.4004 (English), 11/21/2006 21:49:45, 307200 bytes

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 266240 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 27136 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 10496 bytes
d3d8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 1179648 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 8192 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 1689088 bytes
d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 825344 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 590336 bytes
d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 350208 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 34816 bytes
dplay.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 33040 bytes
dplayx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 229888 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 23552 bytes
dpwsock.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 42768 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 57344 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 30208 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 18432 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 375296 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 3584 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 3584 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 212480 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 83456 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 116736 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 21504 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 35328 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 60928 bytes
dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 53520 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 159232 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 181760 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 394240 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 68608 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 76800 bytes
pid.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 23:00:00 35328 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 367616 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 1294336 bytes
dswave.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 19456 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 181760 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 71680 bytes
dmusic.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 104448 bytes
dmband.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 28672 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 61440 bytes
dmime.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 181248 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 35840 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 105984 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 103424 bytes
dmscript.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 82432 bytes
system.dll: 1.00.3705.6018 English Final Retail 8/30/2005 15:58:42 1179648 bytes
system.dll: 1.01.4322.2032 English Final Retail 12/13/2006 14:18:01 1224704 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 619008 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 1227264 bytes
dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 2113536 bytes
mfc40.dll: 4.01.0000.6140 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 924432 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.02.4131.0000 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 1028096 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 22528 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 70656 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 59904 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.0009.1133 English Final Retail 8/22/2006 04:05:26 498742 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 35328 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.05.2710.2732 English Final Retail 8/5/2005 15:06:50 165376 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 14336 bytes
encapi.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 20480 bytes
qasf.dll: 11.00.5721.5145 English Final Retail 10/18/2006 21:47:18 211456 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 192512 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 279040 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2709 English Final Retail 6/28/2005 20:55:07 385024 bytes
qedit.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 562176 bytes
qedwipes.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 733696 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.05.2600.2749 English Final Retail 8/29/2005 23:13:42 1287680 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.0000.3936 English Final Retail 8/21/2006 09:52:08 246814 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.0005.0053 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 23:00:00 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.0016.0003 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 23:00:00 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 4.30.0062.0002 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 120320 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 4.30.0064.0001 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 338432 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.2562.0015.0055 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 755200 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.0063.0048 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 200192 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.0064.0048 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 183808 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.10.0002.0051 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 23:00:00 154624 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.05.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 204288 bytes
ks.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:15:22 140928 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:58 130048 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:56:44 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/3/2004 23:08:04 48640 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:58:40 5376 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.01.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:58:42 4992 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/4/2004 00:58:42 7552 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 23:00:00 4352 bytes
msdvbnp.ax: 6.05.2710.2732 English Final Retail 8/5/2005 16:01:54 58368 bytes
psisdecd.dll: 6.05.2715.3011 English Final Retail 10/9/2006 16:12:14 235008 bytes
psisrndr.ax: 6.05.2715.3011 English Final Retail 10/9/2006 16:12:30 224256 bytes
mpeg2data.ax: 6.05.2710.2732 English Final Retail 8/5/2005 16:01:54 62976 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.05.2715.3011 English Final Retail 10/9/2006 16:15:52 1669632 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 23:00:00 30720 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 23:00:00 17408 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 5.03.2600.2180 English Final Retail 8/9/2004 16:00:00 50688 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMA Voice Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Creative LiveRecording Filter,0x00400000,0,1,LiveRec.ax,2.01.0001.0000
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CT Upsampler filter,0x00100000,1,1,Upsample.ax,2.00.0004.0000
Creative Wave Writer,0x00200000,1,0,WavWrite.ax,3.00.0011.0000
WST Renderer,0x00800000,1,1,WSTRenderer.ax,6.05.2710.2 732
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Nero Digital Audio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,NeAudio.ax,3.02.0000.0000
Creative MLP Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,MlpSrc.ax,3.00.0000.0000
CyberLink AudioCD Filter,0x00600000,0,1,CLAudioCD.AX,5.00.0000.3212
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
Creative NVF Filter,0x00400000,0,1,NvfSrc.ax,3.00.0000.0000
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,11.00.5721.5145
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
BPM Metadata,0x001fffff,1,1,MetaBPM.ax,1.00.0004.0000
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.402 6.0000
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
e-Watch TCP Mjpg,0x00200000,0,2,ewMjpgTcp.ax,1.00.0000.0003
Windows Media Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,msadds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2710.2732
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0 000
CT Time-Scaling filter,0x00100000,1,1,TimeScal.ax,2.03.0001.0000
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2715. 3011
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.00 00
Microsoft TV Caption Decoder,0x00600000,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,5.01.2715.3011
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2 749
Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
WMT Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
SVM Metadata,0x001fffff,1,1,MetaSVM.ax,1.00.0006.0000
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,msscds32.ax,8.00.0000. 4487
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.05.2710.2732
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,l3codecx.ax,1.05.0000.0050
Nero Audio Stream Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,3.02.0000.0000
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2710.2732
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,acelpdec.ax,1.04.0000.0000
CyberLink Audio Spectrum Analyzer (DVDP),0x00200000,1,1,CLAudSpa.ax,1.00.0000.0924
Nero QuickTime(tm) Video Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,NeQTDec.ax,3.02.0000.0000
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (Netshow URL),0x00400000,0,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.000 0
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmvds32.ax,8.00.0000.4487
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,wmv8ds32.ax,8.00.0000.4000
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
PCM to EXT,0x00200000,0,0,Pcm2Ext.ax,6.00.0002.0000
Stream Control Filter,0x001fffff,1,1,StreamCon.ax,1.00.0000.0001
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Nero ES Video Reader,0x00600000,0,1,NDParser.ax,3.02.0000.0000
CT Karaoke filter,0x00100000,1,1,Karaoke.ax,2.00.0003.0000
Creative MP3 Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,Mp3Src.ax,3.01.0002.0000
Windows Media Multiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5 145
ASX file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASX v.2 file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
NSC file Parser,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
CT PDP filter,0x00100000,1,1,PDP.ax,1.00.0008.0000
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media source filter,0x00600000,0,2,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
CyberLink Video/SP Decoder,0x008f1000,2,3,CLVSD.ax,6.00.0000.2715
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Peak Follower Filter,0x001fffff,1,1,PassPeak.ax,1.00.0000.0003
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.2715.3011
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2709
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CyberLink Audio Decoder (HP_DT),0x008f1000,1,1,claud.ax,6.00.0000.2623
WST Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,wstdecod.dll,5.03.2600.2180
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Nero Audio Sample Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,3.02.0000.0000
Creative AC3 Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,AC3Src.ax,3.00.0002.0000
CT SmartVolumeManagement filter,0x00100000,1,1,DSCompr.ax,1.00.0002.0000
Creative Audio Gain Filter,0x00200000,1,1,AudGain.ax,1.00.0000.0000
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
CBVA Filter,0x00200000,1,1,CBVAFilter.dll,5.01.2700.218 0
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.03.2600.2180
Creative MP3 Writer,0x00200000,1,0,MP3Write.ax,3.00.0002.0000
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,mpg4ds32.ax,8.00.0000. 4487
Nero Video Stream Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,3.02.0000.0000
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
AudSkip Filter,0x001fffff,1,1,AudSkip.ax,1.00.0000.0004
CT HPVirtualizer filter,0x00100000,1,1,Virtual.ax,1.00.0000.0000
CyberLink Line21 Decoder Filter,0x00200000,0,2,CLLine21.ax,4.00.0000.5615
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.000 0
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2709
Overlay Mixer2,0x00400000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2709
Tivo DirectShow Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,TiVoDirectShowFilter.dll,1.0 0.0017.6289
CT CMSS3 filter,0x00100000,1,1,CMSS3.ax,3.00.0011.0000
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CyberLink DVD Navigator,0x00600000,0,3,CLNavX.ax,6.00.0000.2325
.RAM file Parser,0x00600000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
WST Pager,0x00800000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.05.2710.2732
WMT DirectX Transform Wrapper,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.01.2600.0000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.2710 .2732
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® audio software,0x00500000,1,1,iac25_32.ax,2.00.0005.0053
Windows Media Update Filter,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
Noise Reduction,0x00100000,1,1,NoisRedu.ax,3.00.0002.000 0
ASF DIB Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF ACM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF ICM Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF URL Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF JPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF DJPEG Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
ASF embedded stuff Handler,0x00600000,1,1,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
CyberLink Demultiplexer (HP_DD2005),0x00600000,1,0,CLDemuxer.ax,1.00.0000. 3724
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.00 00
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.0000.0000
QuickTime Source Filter,0x00200000,0,1,,
Nero Video Decoder,0x00600000,2,2,NeVideo.ax,3.02.0000.0000
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2 180
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Creative WMA Writer,0x00200000,1,0,WMAWrite.ax,3.00.0008.0000
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
e-Watch TCP A/V,0x00200000,0,2,sockFltTcpAV.ax,1.00.0000.0005
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.05.2710.2732
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0 000
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.05.271 5.3011
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Creative WMA Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,WmaSrc.ax,3.00.0012.0000
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.05.2600.2709
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2 749
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
XML Playlist,0x00400000,1,0,wmpasf.dll,11.00.5721.5145
CyberLink Video Effect,0x00200000,1,1,CLVidFx.ax,1.00.0000.2024
Nero File Source,0x00200000,0,1,NeFileSrc.ax,3.02.0000.0000
Nero QuickTime(tm) Audio Decoder,0x00400000,1,1,NeQTDec.ax,3.02.0000.0000
Nero DVD Decoder,0x00600000,2,2,NeVideo.ax,3.02.0000.0000
Nero Digital Parser,0x00600000,0,3,NDParser.ax,3.02.0000.0000
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Creative CDDA Source Filter,0x00400000,0,1,CDDA.ax,3.00.0002.0000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Nero Video Sample Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,NeRender.ax,3.02.0000.0000
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,wmm2filt.dll,2.01.4026.0000
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
QT Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2 749
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter,0x00640000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003
Indeo® video 4.4 Compression Filter,0x00200000,1,1,ir41_32.ax,4.51.0016.0003

WDM Streaming Data Transforms:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller,0x00000000,0,0,,
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DLS Synthesizer,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
Microsoft Kernel DRM Audio Descrambler,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter,0x00100000,1,1,ir50_32.dll,5.2562.0015.0055
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.274 9
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel Indeo® Video 4.5,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Indeo® video 5.10,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Audio Compressors:
WMA Voice Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IAC2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
ACELP.net,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600 .2749
Windows Media Audio V1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Windows Media Audio V2,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft G.723.1,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

Audio Capture Sources:
SB Audigy 4 [EE00],0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.2600.2180

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
SB Audigy 4 Sw Synth [EE00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
SB Audigy 4 Synth A [EE00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
SB Audigy 4 Synth B [EE00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
SB Audigy 4 [EE00],0x00200000,3,2,,5.03.2600.2180

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
SB Audigy 4 DirectMusic Synthesizer [EE00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 4 Sw Synth [EE00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 4 Synth A [EE00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 4 Synth B [EE00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 4 [EE00],0x00200000,3,2,,5.03.2600.2180

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.05.2710.2732

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.05.2710.2732

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.05.2710.2732

WDM Streaming Mixer Devices:
Microsoft Kernel Wave Audio Mixer,0x00000000,0,0,,

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2715.3011
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2715.3011
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,encdec.dll,6.05.2715.3011

Audio Renderers:
SB Audigy 4 [EE00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
CyberLink Audio Renderer (HP DD2005),0x00200000,1,0,CLADR.ax,6.00.0000.2108
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749
DirectSound: SB Audigy 4 [EE00],0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.2600.2749

WDM Streaming System Devices:
SB Audigy 4 DirectMusic Synthesizer [EE00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 4 Sw Synth [EE00],0x00200000,3,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 4 Synth A [EE00],0x00200000,14,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 4 Synth B [EE00],0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.2600.2180
SB Audigy 4 [EE00],0x00200000,10,2,,5.03.2600.2180

FoolTrottel
12-27-2006, 02:42 PM
Can't see any issues from the report.
(Mind you, I'm not a know-it-all!)

There's a newer driver for the Audigy available.
(Link to Creative Labs Audigy driver) (http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?MainCategory=1&Product=14103&dlcentric=9497&Product_Name=Audigy+4&filetype=1&OSName=Windows+XP)

Me thinks PSU would be the next thing to look at... wait for other's opinions...

tmrtex
12-27-2006, 10:37 PM
Thanks for the tip on the Audigy driver.

I ran FRAPS freebie version to monitor frame rates. The low was 28 FPS, the high 102 FPS. Typically FPS stayed in 50's to 90's.

When a stutter occurs, FPS drops to "zip", and then bounces back to 50's or 60's after it's done annoying me.

I haven't a clue if it matters, but the mission I ran to monitor FPS runs 13 planes plus other objects: 3 AAA, and 15 to 20 stationary objects.

Are these normal frame rates?

bolox00
12-28-2006, 02:57 AM
your frs look ok, but the 'standard' for ati setup is here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/coastie0/IL2setup.html

worth a read at least.

coupe of questions:-
do you see hard drive activity light come on during stutters?

what version of fb/pf are you running?

is it installed on c or d drive?

if you press cntrl,alt, del once (at same time) while at desktop how many processes are running/cpu usage/commit charge?

what antivirus proggy are you using? when did you last do a complete scan?

ditto for anti spyware?

when did you last defrag your hard drives?

some more reading for you :
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/OptimizeXP.html
or
http://www.tweakguides.com/TGTC.html
give better info than i can give.

good luck

llaneilian
12-28-2006, 08:02 AM
You will notice a vast improvement if you use FS Autostart (downloadable from Mission4Today). It stops any named services from running in background & optimizes memory prior to running Forgotten Battles.

Do a search for "Black Vipers Services Configuration" for assistance in which services to disable with FS Autostart. There is also a "Windows XP Services Optimize Guide" on OverclockersClub website which is very similar.


It worked for me - Good Luck

tmrtex
12-28-2006, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by bolox00:
your frs look ok, but the 'standard' for ati setup is here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/coastie0/IL2setup.html

worth a read at least.

coupe of questions:-
do you see hard drive activity light come on during stutters?

what version of fb/pf are you running?

is it installed on c or d drive?

if you press cntrl,alt, del once (at same time) while at desktop how many processes are running/cpu usage/commit charge?

what antivirus proggy are you using? when did you last do a complete scan?

ditto for anti spyware?

when did you last defrag your hard drives?

some more reading for you :
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/OptimizeXP.html
or
http://www.tweakguides.com/TGTC.html
give better info than i can give.

good luck


I checked out the settings at the link you provided and pretty much duplicated them, including many of the settings in his config file. Vid looks great, but still get some stutter. May have improved a little, I'll have to look at it closer.

Answering your questions:

I don't notice the hard drive light coming on at all.

Pacific Fighters (stand alone) v 4.04

Installed on C drive

Running processes are huge I think at 60!

(I have run the game after a clean boot, eliminating all unneccessary running process's/sevices - no effect on stutter)

CPU usage with game loaded is 50% (seems high?)

Commit charge = 556M / 2456M

Anti Virus = CA eTrust EZ Anti virus suite

Anti Spyware = CA eTrust Pest Patrol

defrag once per week

virus scan, been a while.



Thanks for your assistance.

bolox00
12-28-2006, 12:52 PM
well 60 processes is WAY too high- 17-25 is the region it should be in. cpu usage and memory commit charge i was looking for at desktop with nothing running- but if you have ~40 processes running that are not essential that's got to be eating cpu cycles and ram- particularly as fb + xp uses ~1G of ram.
when you do a clean boot what are the figures?

you really need to go through 1 (or both) of the second set of links i gave you particularly with respect to spyware and 'unecessary' services/programs.think of it as a spring clean

not familiar with your av proggy, some can cause
probs.- might be worth physically disconnecting from internet and temporarily disabling av?(after you've done a complete scan!)

defrag once a week- very good- wish i was that organised http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

sorry i can't give you a definitive one step fix but these things are often the c.u.m.ulative(**** profanity checker!) effects of lots of little things hidding in the corners of your pc.

one last tip, when going thru any of the optimizations i've linked, having them open on a laptop (if available) makes life alot easier.

good luck

tmrtex
01-02-2007, 12:11 PM
Well this "stutter" problem has been very difficult to tackle. After trying various tweaks and optimizations without success, I started throwing money at the problem with upgrades (PSU, Audio card, ram ect...)

Now...this is what I have:

Intel 840 Dual Core Proc 2.8 GHz
SyncMaster 204B 20" monitor
RAM = 2GB
SB Audigy 4 Sound card
ATI Radeon x1600 GPU with 512 M DDR2 Ram,(not x1600 "PRO")
MadDog SurePower 550 WT PSU

All drivers are up to date.

I can get FPS as high as 160 by tweaking the settings in PF, but still stutters in periods of high activity (bombs, rockets exploding ect...)Normal FPS are 60 to 90. Again, there is no stutter during normal flight.

I had originally 60 processes running in the background, I whittled that down to 44. 10 of the remaining are (7 instances of svchost, also 3 instances of CLI.exe (ATI grahpics). Shutting down any of the remaining processes seems to bring on shut down probs, error messages and the like. Maybe there are so many processes due to my OS - I have XP PRO - (lots of security and networking stuff).

But...I have run PF after a clean boot nixing all unneccessary processes, no AV, no Anti spyware, shut down fire wall, still get the stutter!

I even set all PF audio and video settings to the lowest of low, no help.

Could it be that my vid card just sucks?

Thanks for all the prev help and suggestions...

bolox00
01-02-2007, 03:43 PM
i'm also running xp pro and am showing 22 processes, the thee cli is normal, several svchost is normal, 7 a bit high but not 'stupid'.- particularly if you have lot's of 'network stuff'.can you elaborate on this?

you have added another gig of ram- was this a matched pair of 1gig sticks? and in what slots are they placed- check your mobo manual- usually they have to go in slots 1 and 3 but this varies.

the fact you can get 160 fps peak is a fairly good indication that your vid card isn't ****- i still think you have something running in the background- checkout the reference earlier in the thread to fs autostart.

something i just thought of, in your conf.ini file there should be a line
;ProcessAffinityMask=1
if the ; is there try deleting the ; only, save file and retest.this should mean the game runs on the second processor,everything else usually defaults to the first.

i don't want to admit defeat yet and suggest a format and os reinstall but that is a last resort.

good luck

bolox00
01-04-2007, 01:27 AM
re processaffinitymask, you might want to check this thread
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/1621044025

never heard of using =3 before but works for one guy at least.

if you are still having probs, i suggest starting a thread in community help, with a link to this thread . might get the attention of more 'clever people'.

hope things work out for you

OldStoagy
01-04-2007, 07:33 AM
I found I had a similar problem with my graphics as well. Although I always ran my IL2 sims in OpenGL in the Driver setting tab, I found switching to DirectX cured my particular instances of stutters w/PF.

Now if I could just find a setting to stop my drooling spitting when I speak... That would be nice! LOL

Seriously though... I hope it helps you out.

I currently run and intel 2.8 (oc'd to 3.1) on an ASUS P4P800 1.5 Ghz Ram X800XT (bumped core to 520 & mem to 1024 in tray tools) and a 500w power supply. I find running the Cat 6.7 drivers with the ATI tray tools to be suitable for my needs. I don't get blazing speeds and I can't run the settings at the max, but it's truely playable and I'm pleased with the graphics as they are.

WB_Outlaw
01-04-2007, 11:37 AM
It sounds like a HDD controller issue to me. Make sure you have all the drivers for your motherboard and SATA controller loaded. I'm still stuck on IDE for the moment so I don't know what options are available for SATA but check that out.

This is grabbin' at straws a bit but make sure that your hard drives are not set to power down after a period of inactivity (look at the power settings in the control panel).

--Outlaw.

Redwulf 32 - Nis
01-05-2007, 07:09 AM
This is really a long shot but since you've explored most things and *still* have periodic stutter, you might consider this.

Some time ago I too was experiencing a stuttering phenomenon - it turned out to be a botched printjob periodicaly attemping to run (printer disconnected??). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Clearing my printer spooler solved the problem. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I hope your problem's that simple.

BTW, pretty good rig you've got there. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://redwulf.adelby.dk/images/fenris.jpg

Kill_Krazy
01-05-2007, 12:23 PM
The set up here looks like it can handle most things, but have you cheacked to see if there is setting in the BIOS for thermal thottling - it could be something that basic as the machine runs fine on until there is a high demand - CPU get hot and then gets slowed to keep it cool - which is fine in an office not so good in a dogfight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

tmrtex
01-05-2007, 01:25 PM
Well I don't think there's too many things I haven't tryed of all the numerous suggestions.

FS Auto Start - actually SLOWED game performance and increased stutter (?HUH?) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif I used BlackVipers "power user" settings

;ProcessAffinityMask=1 - removing ; no visable change, maybe slight decrease FPS

using DirectX instead of OpenGL - ran worse

Lowering audio settings seems to help, but not a fix

With current settings, FPS is better than previous:

cockpit on - 65 to 130
cockpit off - 75 - 200

(higher FPS normally occur with little to no land on display)

FPS can drop into 40's with lots of activity, over ground

Would throwing more $money$ at this problem help such as a higher end vid card??

Thanks for everyones help.

tmrtex
01-05-2007, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Kill_Krazy:
The set up here looks like it can handle most things, but have you cheacked to see if there is setting in the BIOS for thermal thottling - it could be something that basic as the machine runs fine on until there is a high demand - CPU get hot and then gets slowed to keep it cool - which is fine in an office not so good in a dogfight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


...I wouldn't know a BIOS from a ham sandwich http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif How do I do that?

tmrtex
01-06-2007, 02:06 AM
Well that was a dumb response. I've checked BIOS settings many times, just didn't realise that it was the BIOS I was peering into. (dahhh...) To answer your queston more intelligently, no, there is no setting in the BIOS for thermal throttling.

Here's an observation I made with my new, new, newest, settings. I don't know if anything can be gleaned from this or not...

I've been watching two particular activities all along for testing purposes using the same QMB mission every time. 1) Rockets exploding, and 2) radio chatter. (They seem to cause the most problems).

If loading only 1 plane, (player), after firing rockets the FIRST time, stutter occurs as the rockets explode. After that, I can fire rockets until my thumb hurts, and as quickly in succession as the game allows. NO STUTTER from the explosions (I have unlimited ammo set for this testing). I can fly and shoot forever and no stutter from the rocket explosions.

If I run the same mission with additional planes in the flight, rocket explosions behave the same way, first one I get stutter when they explode, after that, none. But....when radio chatter starts, so does stutter, (just prior or during the sound file executing. (Doesn't matter if I change audio settings to "sound off", still happens. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

BTW, this "test mission" is quite low over ground targets. FPS 50 - 100.

Dual core stuff:

I've installed MS hot fix for dual core processors

Removed ";" from ;ProcessAffinityMask=1

Added "/usepmtimer" to end of boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /usepmtimer

Update/reinstalled all drivers

Set hardware accelleration to "basic"

configured lowest in-game audio settings (I think)

Set up FS Auto Start using BlackVipers "Power User" settings, mem defrag enabled

upgraded audio card to Audigy 4

upgraded ram to 2 GB

upgraded PS to 550 wt

frequent defrag, run anti-virus, run CCleaner, run REG Mechanic

enabled Catalst over clocking for Radeon x1600 (made no difference in anything)

placed a 20" fan facing an open case for cooling (running at 55 - 60 degrees C

Config.ini (Pacific Fighters stand alone)

[il2]
title=Pacific Fighters
hotkeys=HotKey game

[window]
width=1024
height=768
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
ChangeScreenRes=1
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=0
EnableResize=0
EnableClose=1
SaveAspect=1
Use3Renders=0

[GLPROVIDER]
GL=Opengl32.dll

[GLPROVIDERS]
Open GL=Opengl32.dll
DirectX=dx8wrap.dll

[NET]
speed=5000
routeChannels=0
serverChannels=31
localPort=21000
remotePort=21000
SkinDownload=1
serverName=No Name
serverDescription=
remoteHost=
localHost=
socksHost=
checkServerTimeSpeed=1
checkClientTimeSpeed=0

[MaxLag]
farMaxLagTime=10.0
nearMaxLagTime=2.0
cheaterWarningDelay=5.0
cheaterWarningNum=-1

[chat]
region=(dx=0.6925,dy=0.071666665,x=0.0,y=0.0)

[game]
Arcade=0
HighGore=0
mapPadX=0.6689453
mapPadY=-0.046875
viewSet=32
Intro=0
NoSubTitles=0
NoChatter=0
NoHudLog=0
NoLensFlare=0
iconTypes=3
eventlog=eventlog.lst
eventlogkeep=0


[HotKey game]
PrintScreen=ScreenShot
P=pause
Pause=pause

[HotKey gui]
Escape=activate

[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=2.0
deltaZ=10.0

[HookView]
MouseLeft=Len

[HookView Config]
AzimutSpeed=0.1
TangageSpeed=0.1
LenSpeed=1.0
MinLen=1.0
DefaultLen=20.0
MaxLen=3000.0
Speed=6

[HotKey builder]
MouseLeft=objectMove
MouseRight=popupmenu
Enter=freeView
Shift MouseLeft=worldZoom
Alt MouseLeft=select+
Alt MouseRight=select-
Alt Ctrl=unselect
PageDown=change+
PageUp=change-
End=change++
Home=change--
Ctrl MouseLeft=insert+
Insert=insert+
NumPad-0=insert+
F=fill
Ctrl MouseRight=delete+
NumPad.=delete+
Delete=delete+
Backspace=cursor
Tab=cursor
F10=land
F11=onLand
NumPad-=normalLand
NumPad+=toLand
NumPad-5=resetAngles
NumPad-8=resetTangage90
NumPad-7=stepAzimut-5
NumPad-4=stepAzimut-15
NumPad-1=stepAzimut-30
NumPad-9=stepAzimut5
NumPad-6=stepAzimut15
NumPad-3=stepAzimut30

[MouseXYZ]
F1=SpeedSlow
F2=SpeedNormal
F3=SpeedFast
MouseRight=XYmove
F4 MouseRight=Zmove
MouseMiddle=Amove
F5 MouseRight=Amove
F6 MouseRight=Tmove
F7 MouseRight=Kmove

[MouseXYZ Config]
RealTime=1

[HotKey Console]
Shift Tab=Activate
[Console]
HISTORY=1024
HISTORYCMD=1024
LOAD=console.cmd
SAVE=console.cmd
LOG=0
LOGTIME=0
LOGFILE=log.lst
LOGKEEP=0

[sound]
SoundUse=1
SoundEngine=0
Speakers=0
Placement=0
SoundFlags.reversestereo=0
RadioFlags.Enabled=0
RadioEngine=2
MusicVolume=0
ObjectVolume=12
MusState.takeoff=1
MusState.inflight=1
MusState.crash=1
MusFlags.play=0
MasterVolume=11
Attenuation=7
SoundMode=1
SamplingRate=1
NumChannels=0
SoundExt.occlusions=0
SoundFlags.hardware=0
SoundFlags.streams=1
SoundFlags.duplex=1
SoundExt.acoustics=0
SoundExt.volumefx=0
SoundFlags.voicemgr=0
SoundFlags.static=1
VoiceVolume=12
Channels=2
SoundExt.extrender=0
SoundFlags.bugscorrect=0
SoundSetupId=8
ActivationLevel=0.02
Preemphasis=0.85
RadioLatency=0.5
AGC=1
PTTMode=1
SoundFlags.UseRadioChatter=1
SoundFlags.AutoActivation=0
RadioFlags.PTTMode=0
RadioFlags.PlayClicks=0
ActLevel=0
MicLevel=0
SoundFlags.forceEAX1=0

[rts]
ProcessAffinityMask=1
mouseUse=2
joyUse=1
trackIRUse=1
DisableIME=0
locale=

[rts_mouse]
SensitivityX=1.0
SensitivityY=1.0
Invert=0
SensitivityZ=1.0

[rts_joystick]
X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
FF=0
U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1X=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1Y=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0

[Render_DirectX]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=2
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=0
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=0
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=0
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=0

Shadows=1
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=2

Sky=2
Forest=1
LandShading=2
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=0
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=0

VideoSetupId=15
ForceShaders1x=0
PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0
Water=1
Effects=1

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=2
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=1
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=1
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=0
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=0
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=0

Shadows=1
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=2

Sky=1
Forest=1
LandShading=2
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=0
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=0

VideoSetupId=17
Water=1
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.0625
PolygonOffsetUnits=-1.0


Unless somebody see's something here, the only things I haven't tried is divorcing my wife and quitting my job. (Joke)...

bolox00
01-06-2007, 04:11 AM
ummm.... couple of things:-

in the game section, make nosubtitles=1, this will remove the text at top of screen containing messages. sometimes it reduces stutters on radio calls.

just to confirm music isn't playing during flight?

how long since last formatted/ os install?

tmrtex
01-06-2007, 06:23 AM
No music - completely turned off

Computer was purchased 3 months ago.

No change with subtitles turned off. Get stutter just before/during audio file runs. (Even with sound OFF)

GuywithaBeer
01-08-2007, 04:03 AM
I find my best cure for stutters and freezes is a relatively simple one... May or may not work for you, and depends on if the server allows external views. (I play mainly offline and this is a big help particularily on the Finland map)

My solution is to simply cycle through all planes using the Shift-F2 and CTRL-F2 functions once or twice until I get no more freezing or stutters. 99% of the time I have no more problems.

Hoatee
01-10-2007, 02:02 PM
Definitely try bolox00's first suggestion about switching subtitles off (they get in the way anyway).

If you have an ATI card, turning the DirectX slider all the way down in ATI's control panel might also boost fps.

Turn the volume for pilot chatter down to zero (at least realistic for zero 'coz the Japanese pilots didn't use radio to communicate with each other) might help rid the stutter somewhat.

tmrtex
01-10-2007, 08:22 PM
If you have an ATI card

Tryed disabling subtitles - no effect. I don't see any DirectX slider (?) in the version I'm using (Catalyst 6.12)

I've tryed probably all of the suggestions and in numerous combinations to the point I am lost on this issue. I've read posts on the internet regarding stutter issues til my eyeballs have about fallen out.

I loaded a game I haven't run in a long time (Gunship!). I used to run this game successfully on my OLD computer, and it behaves the same way on this computer (which is light-years ahead of the old rig - it was 5 yrs old when it finally bit the dust).

Something goofey I noticed after running MMC Performance monitor during a short mission, is pages/sec climbs as high as 1200(???) while there is still well over 1GB of physical mem available for use(???huh???) Lost.

BTW, I appreciate all the help everyone has provided. I hope I don't end up removing IL-2 and replacing it with Monopoly. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Hoatee
01-11-2007, 07:18 AM
Hopefully I've been clear enough. My reference to DirectX should maybe have been one to Direct3D.

The control panel can be called up by either right clicking on the ATI icon in the system tray or by right clicking on the desktop and choosing advanced settings in the bottom right hand corner of the resulting window.

You should then see a tabbed window. One should be labelled 'OpenGL' and the other 'Direct3D' (or 'DirectX' - can't quite remember). Set the slider for OpenGL to about three quarters and the DirectWhatever slider all the way down (it's this last step that should yield a boost in fps). It (should) go without saying that the game must be run in OpenGL mode (that is selectable via the set-up programme that came with the game).

I'm using 6.12 meself with an X700 (128MB) and 1GB of physical ram without any problems. Most of all, don't give up and let us know how you are progressing.

wolf.wotan
01-11-2007, 07:43 AM
I had a similar problem with my rig a year ago.
Symptoms where grafics lags in IL2 with water higher than 0 and BF1942. It ran CS:S just great.

For me it turned out, the AGP drivers of the motherboard where not installed and so the card was in 'Legacy PCI mode' which made transfers from the RAM of the computer to the graphics card very slow.

After installing the AGP-Gart drivers for the motherboard everything was fine and dandy. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You could try to run IL2 in excellent mode (video setup within the game) and check if the stutters are gone, then.

tmrtex
01-11-2007, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Hoatee:
Hopefully I've been clear enough. My reference to DirectX should maybe have been one to Direct3D.

The control panel can be called up by either right clicking on the ATI icon in the system tray or by right clicking on the desktop and choosing advanced settings in the bottom right hand corner of the resulting window.

You should then see a tabbed window. One should be labelled 'OpenGL' and the other 'Direct3D' (or 'DirectX' - can't quite remember). Set the slider for OpenGL to about three quarters and the DirectWhatever slider all the way down (it's this last step that should yield a boost in fps). It (should) go without saying that the game must be run in OpenGL mode (that is selectable via the set-up programme that came with the game).

I'm using 6.12 meself with an X700 (128MB) and 1GB of physical ram without any problems. Most of all, don't give up and let us know how you are progressing.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

When you refer to "Control Panel"...I assume you are referring to the "Catalyst Control Center"?. If thats the case, I do not see any tabs for OpenGL or Direct3D (?)

And..by right clicking on the desktop, I can click on "properties" (opens display properties)> select settings tab > advanced. The tabs in "advanced" do not include those options either.

Or, I can right click on the desk top and open the Catalyst Control Center.

Either way...no OpenGL tab, no DirectX tab.


I have an ATI Radeon X1600 (PCI-E) with Catalyst version 6.12

Hoatee
01-11-2007, 01:23 PM
Right. I don't have the control catalyst installed having only installed the driver. But I do have a control panel to fiddle around with. Perhaps de-installing the control catalyst (without de-installing the driver) is worth a try.

jazman777
01-11-2007, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by tmrtex:

Something goofey I noticed after running MMC Performance monitor during a short mission, is pages/sec climbs as high as 1200(???) while there is still well over 1GB of physical mem available for use(???huh???) Lost.


Right click on My Computer, select properties, advanced tab, performance button, advanced tab. Both radio buttons ought to be set for "Programs".

Check the virtual memory button. What are your VM settings?

tmrtex
01-11-2007, 07:25 PM
select properties

1)Both are set for "Programs"

2) At the advice of "Win XP - Tweaking Companion", I set VM to "no paging file", rebooted in Safe Mode, then set BOTH Initial, and Maximum to 2056. ( I have 2GB ram).

tmrtex
01-11-2007, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Hoatee:
Right. I don't have the control catalyst installed having only installed the driver. But I do have a control panel to fiddle around with. Perhaps de-installing the control catalyst (without de-installing the driver) is worth a try.

I went one better than that...I uninstalled both Catalyst Control Center and the drivers, cleaned up the computer, reinstalled ONLY the drivers. No help, so I've re-installed everything again.

jazman777
01-11-2007, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by tmrtex:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">select properties

1)Both are set for "Programs"

2) At the advice of "Win XP - Tweaking Companion", I set VM to "no paging file", rebooted in Safe Mode, then set BOTH Initial, and Maximum to 2056. ( I have 2GB ram). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's an I/O throughput bottleneck somewhere. It sounds like you can create it as needed--rockets and radio chatter. It sounds like a sound issue.

You could pull out the sound card altogether and try things then with sound disabled in IL2.

You might try looking around SysInternals.com for ProcessMonitor and seeing in more detail what's going on. ProcessMonitor can be useful in that you can see registry and file access in real time. With time stamps on, you can run it, look around at what goes on when IL2 is starting.

When you have radio chatter or rockets see if IL2 is accessing files. Compare with other file accesses to see if the app is "hanging" on doing that.

edit--Here's ProcessMonitor:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/processmonitor.mspx

tmrtex
01-11-2007, 10:56 PM
I suspected audio as an issue from the git-go for a variety of reasons...

1) No change in video settings seem to effect the stutter. I can use the lowest in-game setting, or excellent. Same deal.

2) No changes in external video settings (via Catalyst 3D settings) effect the stutter.

3) No other tweaks such as numerous dual core settings and installing the available MS hot fix for dual core performance effect the stutter. Disabling subtitles, turning down audio settings, on and on....

4) I've loaded and reloaded drivers so many times I'm now an uninterested expert.

5) Numerous hardware upgrades

6) CPU usage doesn't exceed 50% during gameplay, 1GB of ram sitting and waiting for something to do...

I could go on and on...but I won't. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Early on, I put together a mission using FMB that involved 2 friendly flights attacking an airfield. I (player) was the second flight by myself. (Hate having to fly formation, and didn't want to lead. Hell, I paid for the game after all). The first flight had a specific target designated. Every time I ran this mission, the stutter would start just before (nanosecond)the flight leader would announce "beginning our attact run" or whatever. Nothing special happening on the display, and video running smooth as could be prior to the announcement.

Thing is, this stutter occurs with sound enabled (in-game), or disabled. Doesn't matter.

Question: when you say "pull the sound card out all together", are you suggesting removing the drivers as well? Also, the bios is set to "disable integrated audio". What are the steps you are suggesting?

I'll take a look at ProcessMonitor, my guess is it's "over my head". We'll see.

Thanks for the help!

jazman777
01-12-2007, 01:17 AM
I mean physically remove the sound card, and keep the on-board sound disabled. You've had the stuttering with on-board as well, so I'm thinking make Windows think there is no sound device. You could remove the drivers, first.

The ProcessMonitor is really to try to see if there are files being loaded when you get the stutters. The idea is to see how that load performs, if there is something being loaded. It might be sound files, might be a library. It might be slow because of some disk controller issue (as someone suggested earlier).

I can't run ProcessMonitor on my IL2 box, because it resets it (it's Windows 2000, and there are some reported issues), but it works OK on my second box, a Win XP Pro box. If needed, I can install IL2 there, but I'll have to run it on very low settings. At least maybe I can see what's going on in IL2. But try the sound card thing first. And check to see if you have latest motherboard drivers, that's often where the disk controller drivers are.

-HH-Quazi
01-12-2007, 01:57 AM
At games splash screen, under Hardware Setup, then Sound Setup, then Radio Setup, make sure your Voice Communications toggles is turned off, in the downward position.

Also, if you are using a CRT, make sure V-Sync is disabled as well as Triple Buffering. If you are using an LCD, give these two settings a shot anyway, but pay attention to make sure you do not get any tearing.

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tmrtex
01-12-2007, 09:07 AM
1)V-Synch and Trip Buffering are disabled.

2)Disabled Voice Communications

3)Yanked the Audigy card out.

Stutter still occurs just prior to bombs/rockets exploding (intermittantly - which is normal) Doesn't stutter with every single occurance, and typically at lower altitudes.

On the other hand, stutter from voice comms loading can occur at any altitude regardless of whats being displayed on monitor. Again, intermittantly, often the first occurance.

Does that kill the audio therory?

Also, did not remove Audigy drivers during this test.


I'll take a whack at ProcessMonitor, likely a learning curve on this one. I'll also see about uploading some vid on-line so you can see exactly what I'm talking about.

jazman777
01-12-2007, 10:16 AM
I only suggested ProcessMonitor because a lot of good suggestions have been made here, it looks like we're running out of usual suspects.

The elephant in the room is a reinstall of Windows.

tmrtex
01-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Never was much for elephants.

I downloaded and ran ProcessManager...

Simple to run, but as suspected, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif I'm at a loss as to what I'm seeing. Should I post a log file? It monitors process, file, and registry. Or...what should I be looking for specifically? I'm going to do some reading on this prog later today.

Thanks!

jazman777
01-12-2007, 03:09 PM
In the file menu, you can turn caputuring on and off with the "Capture Events" pick. That way, you'll be able to start a capture, then end it, and then just look at things.

In the edit menu, you can turn on and off "Auto Scroll" which would just update things and scroll them. If capture events is on, they don't scroll.

The filter menu is the useful one. Select the "Filter" item. From the left pulldown select "Process Name"; the second pulldown should be "is"; the third pulldown, enter "il2fb.exe" or whatever the executable for il2 is; in the fourth pulldown it should be "Include". Click on the "Add" button, then "OK". You should notice that no events are showing up, except for ones that are from the il2fb.exe program.

You can also toggle the little button in the button bar to turn off registry access. It can clutter things.

Look for files that are opened at the same time you're getting stutters. Look at the timestamps. You can compare these with some similar files opened without the il2fb.exe filter applied.

For example, I created a filter for notepad.exe. I then turned off registry access display. When I create a file in notepad, I see all that stuff going on in ProcessMonitor. Looking at the timestamps I get an idea of what is going on. Now, with IL2, we want to see if files are being opened/accessed, and get a feel for how long it takes.

Then you compare with some other file accesses with the il2 filter off, and IL2 is NOT running, system is mostly unloaded. Do some stuff in Word or something. Then you can compare file accesses in an unloaded system with file accesses in an IL2-Loaded system.

The bad news is, if we find something is really slow, I don't know the solution. It's likely to be a disk I/O subsystem issue. It's why I suggested looking at updated mobo drivers. But maybe there's a hiccup in throughput due to the dual-core CPU while trying to access disk under high-CPU load?

In the end we'll probably just throw up our hands, curse Bill Gates, Microsoft, and Redmond, and do a reinstall.

dwieser
01-12-2007, 05:57 PM
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jazman777
01-12-2007, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by dwieser:
You need to set your latency the same for your graphics card and your sound card
He physically removed the sound card and disabled on-board sound, and ran with sound disabled in IL-2, and still had the problems.

tmrtex
01-13-2007, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by jazman777:
In the file menu, you can turn caputuring on and off with the "Capture Events" pick. That way, you'll be able to start a capture, then end it, and then just look at things.

In the edit menu, you can turn on and off "Auto Scroll" which would just update things and scroll them. If capture events is on, they don't scroll.

The filter menu is the useful one. Select the "Filter" item. From the left pulldown select "Process Name"; the second pulldown should be "is"; the third pulldown, enter "il2fb.exe" or whatever the executable for il2 is; in the fourth pulldown it should be "Include". Click on the "Add" button, then "OK". You should notice that no events are showing up, except for ones that are from the il2fb.exe program.

You can also toggle the little button in the button bar to turn off registry access. It can clutter things.

Look for files that are opened at the same time you're getting stutters. Look at the timestamps. You can compare these with some similar files opened without the il2fb.exe filter applied.

For example, I created a filter for notepad.exe. I then turned off registry access display. When I create a file in notepad, I see all that stuff going on in ProcessMonitor. Looking at the timestamps I get an idea of what is going on. Now, with IL2, we want to see if files are being opened/accessed, and get a feel for how long it takes.

Then you compare with some other file accesses with the il2 filter off, and IL2 is NOT running, system is mostly unloaded. Do some stuff in Word or something. Then you can compare file accesses in an unloaded system with file accesses in an IL2-Loaded system.

The bad news is, if we find something is really slow, I don't know the solution. It's likely to be a disk I/O subsystem issue. It's why I suggested looking at updated mobo drivers. But maybe there's a hiccup in throughput due to the dual-core CPU while trying to access disk under high-CPU load?

In the end we'll probably just throw up our hands, curse Bill Gates, Microsoft, and Redmond, and do a reinstall.


Well I have taken ProcessManager for a test drive with Pacific Fighters. Really interesting stuff (too bad I don't understand much of what I'm seeing). But...I did notice some things worth mentioning.

I set my digital wall clock to the computer clock (within 1 second) so I could reference the log accurately after running my test mission. I ran the test mission 3 times with the same results. I did not use any filtering. I documented each occurance of stutter I noticed during the mission. In this test I documented 3 instances of (obvious) stutter activity when rockets detonated. (Actually the stutter occurs a nanosecond before the graphic of the detonation). After shutting down the game and viewing the ProcessManager log, I noticed the following in "Registry Activity" view.

At precisely 1 second or so before each documented stutter, there would be at least one referrence to (ATI)CLI.exe that reads as follows:

Prog: CLI.exe (ATI)

Operation: RegQueryValue

Path: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Perflib\Disable Performance Counters

Result: Name Not Found

There were other ATI events logged during the mission, mostly around the documented stutter, all read the same way on the PM log.

The other question mark besides the "timing of the ATI events", is that I don't have "Windows NT". I have XP Pro. So whats that about.

There were other very interesting things I noticed, save a log file, but for some reason was unable to open it (even after assigning ProcessManager to the file extension.

Pretty cool beans this prog. I'll have to do some reading on this. Couldn't access the help files...I get this in the window to the right:

Action canceled
Internet Explorer was unable to link to the Web page you requested. The page might be temporarily unavailable.

hamselv2
01-13-2007, 02:03 AM
It's worth looking at the PCI latency settings.
Some players have seen a performance improvement when they adjusted latency settings.

Examples:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=6461075362

http://forums.flightsim.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topi...&listing_type=search (http://forums.flightsim.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=119876&mesg_id=119876&listing_type=search)


Get PCI Latency Tool here:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=951

tmrtex
01-13-2007, 07:25 AM
I ran the PCI Latency tool?

14 items listed, but my ATI video card is NOT one of them

Creative Audigy = 32
IEEE 1394 Bus = 32
Modem = 32
Intel PCI Bridge = 0
Intel 945/G Processor to I/O Controller = 0
Intel 82801 GH LPC Interface Controller = 0
Intel 82801 GR/GH SATA/RAID Controller = 0

(5) listings for ?Universal Serial Bus controller = all set to 0

Intel PRO/100 Network Connection = 32
IDE = 0

jazman777
01-13-2007, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by tmrtex:

At precisely 1 second or so before each documented stutter, there would be at least one referrence to (ATI)CLI.exe that reads as follows:

Prog: CLI.exe (ATI)

Operation: RegQueryValue

Path: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Perflib\Disable Performance Counters

Result: Name Not Found

There were other ATI events logged during the mission, mostly around the documented stutter, all read the same way on the PM log.

The other question mark besides the "timing of the ATI events", is that I don't have "Windows NT". I have XP Pro. So whats that about.

There were other very interesting things I noticed, save a log file, but for some reason was unable to open it (even after assigning ProcessManager to the file extension.


Eh, it's probably left over from Windows NT, that's the original codebase from which Windows 2000 and then XP were derived. I'm sure there are lots of bits still there in XP.

The performance counters get disabled when your there's a problem gathering the metrics. That can happen when the CPU is maxed out, or when the target piece of hardware/software is maxed out (that is, can't respond in a timely way). I've found events in my event log like that, when I'm playing a game that maxes out my CPU for a sustained period, like IL2 or Lock-On.

You have a dual-core CPU, right? Look around the site for any problems people have had with dual-core CPUs, I don't have one so I'm oblivious to any issues, though I did see a discussion on SimHQ about it.

I would guess that CLI.exe is trying to do something with performance monitoring (it's a .NET app, and there are .NET counters as part of performance monitor). Maybe it's not responding in a timely manner and Windows is saying, "forget it, I can't get metrics from this thing."

You might try uninstalling the latest ATI drivers and trying 5.11 (if they work with your card), that's the last non-.NET version. You won't have a CLI.exe running. Then try again.

The 5.11 can be found here:

http://www.oldapps.com/old_version_ati.php

Like I said, I don't know if they'll work with your card. An alternative would be to try different versions of 6.x.