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Don_Karnage
10-03-2006, 06:43 AM
Hi all! Brand new pilot. JUST bought Il-2 Complete edition last week..then upgraded to 4.05.

I have a saitek x52 joystick, and the trackir 4.0 pro headtracking system. CPU is a 3.5 pentium 4, 1 gig of ram, and video card is a geforce 6800 Ultra 256 mb.

I like the yaks so far the best, I like that the canopy seems to allow me to se eevrywhere, and the trackir system gives me an enormous edge when flying. I havent shot anyone down online yet, but have been practising with dogights with rooki AI planes. I went from it takine me over 40 minutes to shoot him down (with severe damage to my plane) to just under 10 minutes on average.

I know it won't really prepare me for real human opponents but I just want to get used to maneuvering and getting in close.

Wanted to thank all of you guys because I have been lurking for a while and your posts assisted me a great deal.

I downloaded 'In Pursuit' PDF and printed it out and am studying it. Impressive!!

I noticed (is this a known issue?) that when replaying my tracks..it sometimes shows a different outcome..sometimes my plane will crash when itt never did..if I replay it again it plays correctly but every now and then it decides that I crashed. Weird.

Any tips for me would be appreciated. I seem to be able to hit my targets but they dont go down..what are the vulnerable ares of a plane I need to go for? All my AI shoot downs of fighter planes have happened when I blew a wing off the enemy.

Kuna_
10-03-2006, 06:50 AM
For track bug issue and other things related to it see:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/5951016584

For some in game tracks see my little space
http://www.esnips.com/web/kuna-fb-tracks

You may see what it looks like online on hard settings and there's other stuff too.

edit
I see you are looking for newbie planes
LA-5/7
Bf-109F/G/K
A6M3 (the best zero overall)

Those are the easiest to fly and fight 1 v 1 as I see it, if I left out biplanes and jets. Fast and manouverable compared to their adversaries, and what is the most important of it all: very stable planes unlike much of Yak series.

TeufelHund84
10-03-2006, 06:51 AM
What plane are you flying just out of curiosity?

WTE_Ibis
10-03-2006, 06:53 AM
Welcome to the zoo
Under "controls" in the setup under "misc"
you have the option to bind a key
to "quick start/save track" if you use this for recording you will find it accurate.
Good luck and stay fast.
Cheers, Ibis.

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Don_Karnage
10-03-2006, 06:54 AM
I keep picking random Yaks, I am not experienced enough to know which plane is better than any other.

The yaks seem to not stall easily, fly fast, manuever good and have good visibility. But I haven't flown many other planes yet. I tried the jet but my engine cought on fire and exploded and I became crispy.

Any reccomendations for a good newbie plane?

slipBall
10-03-2006, 07:02 AM
That was you....I knew that I felt someone lurking about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif....anyway welcome, and enjoy'

As for doing damage, get close as possible....a bullet stream at 50 meters will fit into a area fifty times as small as the same stream at 500 meters. A bullet at 50 meters can puncture light, to moderate armor, but at 500 meters it may even bounce off human skin (from il2 manual)
So get close, set convergence close, and have fun

Don_Karnage
10-03-2006, 07:06 AM
it's REALLY hard to get close!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

slipBall
10-03-2006, 07:10 AM
Lower your nose, gain speed, and you will close in... depending on aircraft http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Bearcat99
10-03-2006, 07:25 AM
Welcome aboard!!

Try giving just a touch of nose down trim and that will increase your speed too. The Las are great planes to fly.. so are the Spits... The Mustangs take a little getting used to.

Here are a few more links.. I know you said you already had In Pursuit... but I was too lazy to edit it out of the c&p... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

In Pursuit: An Online Pilot's Guide to Aerial Combat (http://web.comhem.se/%7Eu85627360/)
Neural Dreaml's Aircraft Reference Guide (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm#001)
Hardball's Aircraft Viewer (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm#014) an online version of the guide basically.. both are very good.
<span class="ev_code_red">U</span>ber <span class="ev_code_red">Q</span>uick <span class="ev_code_red">M </span>ission<span class="ev_code_red">G</span>enerator (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm#043) - This tool will help you to create more diverse quick missions to practice with. It comes with an extensive help file and is pretty easy to use once you doit a few times.
Fraps (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm#010)- A quick and easy way to measure your frames per second
IL2 Manager 5.0 (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm#022) This utility will allow you to make certain adjustments within the config file.. like graphics setting etc. on a gui. While it is highly recommended that you learn where these things are in the config file, once you know that... easy and quick is the way to go. It also has a stick editor which will allow you to set up different profiles for your joystick sensitivity settings.
IL2 Stab (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm#024) Similar to IL2 Manager but without the stick editor and with a Diary feature.
VAC (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm#047)- <span class="ev_code_red">V</span>oice <span class="ev_code_red">A</span>ctvated<span class="ev_code_red">C</span>ommands - This utility is very similar to SHOOT.. it allows you to interact with your PC and thus the sim with voice commands. Very usefull in coops. A bit tricky.. but a good program.
COOP Generator (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm#005) - A random COOP genrator. I have yet to use it but it looks interesting.
Sniper's Corner (http://ourworld.cs.com/Abra772/SC_2_Eng.zip) a nice utility to help get the angles aspect of A2A gunnery in your head - Gunnery at AW.C (http://www.airwarfare.com/tactics/tactics_fwgunnery.htm)-A good explenation of the tool and what is does. Also this entire section at AW.C is a really good resource.
Snipers corner will help with the defection shooting thing. Hardball's Viewer is a great tool for assessing the various planes in the sim. Neural Dreams guide has a nice cockpit layout reference part to it so you can find out which dial is what.

Don_Karnage
10-03-2006, 07:26 AM
I use trim a lot ..i assigned it to the slider on my throttle control of my saitek x52.

As for convergence..I have never played with that. You're saying set it low? what setting? Also I fly with 50% fuel for dogfights as I read reccomended on here somewhere.

I still can't land. Usually my gear pops off and my propellor becomes a modern art sculpture. Im getting closer..i landed once and was taxing on the runway then out of nowhere the plane did a cartwheel and I was upside down.

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-03-2006, 07:28 AM
Don't worry about your 'n00b'ness. Get online, join on coms and you'll learn so much faster. Noone cares if your new or not, they'll either help you (friendlies) or shoot you (enemies) just the same.

Fighting other human opponents is so much more fun than fighting the cheating AI.


TB

Bearcat99
10-03-2006, 07:34 AM
Convergence is explained in this diagram. http://hoarmurath.free.fr/images/sigus.jpg

It is the point at which your wing mounted guns converge... set it too far and the gun looses hitting power.. set it too close and the same thing happens.... I have found that the optimum distance is 175m-275m depending on the plane and the target. When I am ground pounding I set it a little farther away. If I am in a P-47 I set them very close... because on the P-47 you can set the inboard and outboard guns. so I like to set them @25-50m apart. Cannons you can generally set them with a higher convergence.

HotelBushranger
10-03-2006, 07:34 AM
And whatever you do, DON'T fly any late 44/45 planes, especially the Spitfire IX +25lb or the La-7. They will teach you bad habits that, if manifested from the start, will leave you in a bad position. Start with earlier planes, for eg the P-40C. It's an early but a good plane, especially for beginners.

Enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Don_Karnage
10-03-2006, 07:38 AM
thanks again guys. Yes the AI seems to be able to do insane maneuvers without blacking out.

On another note, is there a way to set the zoom on my trackir? Ive seen demo videos of people zooming using their trackir, I cant get mine to work. I bound shift+f1 to my pinkey trigger on my x52 for now.

And also, i read a ton of review saying to fly without trackIR is a sin, and I agree 100%. I was flying without my trackIR for a few days until it arrived, and my god does it make a difference. I went from constantly losing the plane im chasing to never losing it.

TeufelHund84
10-03-2006, 07:56 AM
From one newb to another, you'll do yourself a favor by playing historical plane sets online, and not just jumping into dogfight servers that have F4Us, spits, mustangs, la7s, and FWs all gunning for each other, regardless of whether they are red side or blude side.

Don_Karnage
10-03-2006, 07:58 AM
i haven't played online much, i tried and had a lifespan of maybe 3 minutes before being riddled with hot death and having an unexpected reunion with the ground.

Brain32
10-03-2006, 08:04 AM
Any reccomendations for a good newbie plane?
Spitfire(all versions, I don't recommend +25lbs as it's too forgiving)
La5/La7 (almost ridiculous)
BF109F4/G2 (entry level BnZ planes, if everything fails you can try to turnfight your way out, but don't expect miracles).

stathem
10-03-2006, 08:04 AM
There's a whole host of zooming options in the Il2 control set-up, from a zoom command to differing FOV set-ups. I believe you could use the X-52 software to set those up as a fairly smooth zoom.

I have normal, wide and zoom set on one of the X-52 hats. It's essential when you're flying with no padlock or icons (or custom icons). Zoomed in view is great for ID'ing aircraft and ground targets, not so good for shooting with.

To confuse matters though, I have seen that there is a bit of a modification available (prob. at the TiR forums?) that allows you to use one of the vector expansion axes to simulate the changing FoV. Personally I'm happy to stick with using a hat (on the basis you need to keep your head really still when taking shots)

Friendly_flyer
10-03-2006, 08:37 AM
Where to aim:

Wing root, engine, cockpit, in that order.

Cockpit and engine is self explanatory. The wing root usually holds the fuel tanks. A good hit, even with MG's may set the plane on fire. Generally, try to come in from an angle ("deflection shooting") and aim for the front half of the fuselage and inner wings. Banging away at the tail, especially if you are using MGs, won't give you much results.

Don_Karnage
10-03-2006, 09:21 AM
'bangin away at the tails' sounds funny

Grue_
10-03-2006, 09:34 AM
You may as well play on line from the beginning.

No matter how much you play against the AI or prepare yourself, you still get shot to bits against human players.

After a few hundred crashes you start to get the hang of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DuxCorvan
10-03-2006, 09:35 AM
About jets: early jet engines were very touchy and fragile. Just be gentle with thrust: make very slow changes in thust control, and don't mess with them too much. If you increase power too suddenly, jet engines will burst into flames. If you cut too fast, they will be off completely, and it will be very hard to ignite them again without damaging them.

Gentle.

The same goes with turns. Don't be too harsh with manoeuvers: be firm but gentle, fly coordinated and never push the envelope too much unless you need it, or you'll lose energy, stall, or even break apart.

Every plane has strengths and weaknesses. Take just one and learn everything about it, including proper tactics to use with it, before trying others.

Rammathorn_
10-03-2006, 09:55 AM
I started playing online a couple weeks ago and was in a similar situation as you. Here is some advice that you may have already read, but you can never hear it enough:

1. Get on comms! - even if you're just listening, let your team know you can hear them. Your survivability will skyrocket if you're flying with a wingman or even just following a few friendlies. Just remember not to shoulder shoot and avoid collisions.

2. Altitude is your friend. Give yourself a little time after take-off to build up speed and then start climbing. I know it can be very difficult to see dots from 8-10,000 ft., but it's your only insurance against 190s, 47s, and 51s.

3. Practice shooting against AI. Even though the AI flies like a ufo, you can still improve your gunnery a lot. Get in close, and be patient. Your movements have to be smooth, so don't get excited and kick the rudder just to land a single cannon round.

4. Check your six often! This is especially true on servers with no externals (which I recommend since you have TrackIR). The enemy you don't see is the one that kills you, especially when you're chasing another bogey back to his base. If its going to take you 5 minutes to catch up to someone, there's a very good chance you'll be greeted by more of his friends long before those 5 minutes are up.

5. Choose your battles. Don't go after two enemy planes unless you're sure you can take one out in the first pass. Don't leave a furball to chase a smoker to his base unless you've got back-up.

6. Have fun with it. Fly the planes you enjoy the most, choose the servers with whichever difficulty settings sound best.

Don_Karnage
10-03-2006, 10:03 AM
Is it possible to machine gun parachuting pilots? Or ram them?

berg417448
10-03-2006, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Don_Karnage:
Is it possible to machine gun parachuting pilots? Or ram them?

It is possible to shoot parachutes. If you ram them you will usually suffer damage and crash.

super71957
10-03-2006, 10:13 AM
I would not do that online,it"s just in bad taste.
There are more than a few unwritten rules for online fighting as not to offend to many people.
I am still learning but hte more expierienced can help you out.
Good luck and enjoy!
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TeufelHund84
10-03-2006, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Grue_:
You may as well play on line from the beginning.

No matter how much you play against the AI or prepare yourself, you still get shot to bits against human players.

After a few hundred crashes you start to get the hang of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I can't agree with this enough. The AI is the single most frustrating thing to me in this excellent game because of its inconsistency. I've flown against AI that had the maneuverability of a spitfire, the acceleration of a FW, and the intelligence of tree moss. It's as if the AI is programmed to goad you constantly by evading expertly and then teasing you with poor gunnery. At least in my very humble opinion. I still have a ways to go before mastering gunnery (I don't think I'll ever find good joystick sensitivty settings!) and practicing against such goofy targets other than straight flying friendly bombers makes things frustrating.

If you plan on staying offline, it becomes a different issue. But as far as learning, online is where it's at. And, mastering online combat will make offline a walk in the park. Or so I've heard.

KaleunFreddie
10-03-2006, 12:49 PM
What you can do offline to improve you dogfighting and situational awareness skills is...

In 'quick mission builder' set yourself up in a fairly weak plane and your opponent is a better plane. start with 1x opponent and increase this number as you get better. Change you plane as you get more comfortable. Set Ace pilots for all.

What this does, that flying online cannot do, is teach you to dodge the AI shells on mass(and they have the most uncanny accuracy). And as the AI has 'excellent' flying skills until you shoot at them - You achieved you goal in getting onto the opponent's six.

After doing this for a while.. human pilots will be chicken-feed - trust me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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major_setback
10-03-2006, 01:19 PM
Playing/saving tracks.

You should assign a key (for example 'Q') in the controls menu for 'Qick Start/save track' and this will start recording when it's pressed. It saves the file as a .ntrk format. Recording stops when you end the mission (and possibly if you press 'Q' again , I can't remember). These files are stable, and you should see what you experiencd in the mission.

If you save after your mission by clicking on the 'save track' button that is shown, it will be saved in the .ttrk format which is a lot less stable; so don't save this way.

mortoma1958
10-03-2006, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Don_Karnage:
thanks again guys. Yes the AI seems to be able to do insane maneuvers without blacking out.

On another note, is there a way to set the zoom on my trackir? Ive seen demo videos of people zooming using their trackir, I cant get mine to work. I bound shift+f1 to my pinkey trigger on my x52 for now.

And also, i read a ton of review saying to fly without trackIR is a sin, and I agree 100%. I was flying without my trackIR for a few days until it arrived, and my god does it make a difference. I went from constantly losing the plane im chasing to never losing it. I don't use TIR and I almost never lose a bogey.
My fingers are so adept at using the numpad quickly and accuratly, that it's the equal of using TIR. If you saw a track recorded by me, you'd think I had TIR!!!

Don_Karnage
10-30-2006, 08:25 AM
Ok so I've been playing a while now..my aerial gunnery is much better..on 1 vs 1 AI dogfights I shoot down the enemy (set to novice) in average of 4 or 5 minutes, usually by directing my fire at the wing and blowing it off.

I can land consistently now, although my approach seems too low I do manage to land without wrecking which is an accomplishment for me.

I have an issue though, with online play.

Do enemys have icons on? I see black icons on planes taking off from my airfield, but am not sure what enemy is? Do they also have black icons?

Also I keep getting booted off the server. Why? It says I've been kicked. I didn't do anything? Why do they keep kicking me?

I'm using the all seeing eye and joining dogfight only servers. Anything else I need to know about online play?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Jaws2002
10-30-2006, 08:54 AM
It depends on the server. Some dogfight servers have full icons, red for one team, not necessarily allied team, and blue for other team. You should be able to see them at long range (6000m or more some times). But some servers use custom icons. You may see full icons for your team and short (usually around 500m short) for the enemy, some servers use short black icons for friendly aircraft and no icons for enemy. Other servers us no icons at all.
So it depends of the server. What servers do you fly on?

About kicking I don't know what may be. Could be high ping. Most servers have a "high ping" limit. what is your ping at the servers you usually fly in?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Don_Karnage
10-30-2006, 09:02 AM
Im not sure..i never look at ping... I just join whichever has a lot of planes flying.

I guess I'll have to pay more attention. This is such a difference though..I used to get kicked from Call of Duty servers because they said I was too good, now I cant even land a single bullet on enemy planes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bandit.426Cdn
10-30-2006, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Don_Karnage:
i haven't played online much, i tried and had a lifespan of maybe 3 minutes before being riddled with hot death and having an unexpected reunion with the ground.

Congratulations, you lasted 1 minute longer than my average of 2 minutes, and i've been online since 2002.

Some people have what it takes for online, others, well, they serve the purpose of erratic target drone for other's pleasure. Yep, that would be me.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Don_Karnage
10-30-2006, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Bandit.426Cdn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Don_Karnage:
i haven't played online much, i tried and had a lifespan of maybe 3 minutes before being riddled with hot death and having an unexpected reunion with the ground.

Congratulations, you lasted 1 minute longer than my average of 2 minutes, and i've been online since 2002.

Some people have what it takes for online, others, well, they serve the purpose of erratic target drone for other's pleasure. Yep, that would be me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I found this quote and I love it:

I like to show off my shooting prowess to the enemy pilots by carefully hitting insects that are flying near their aircraft.

Then, if I really want to instill the fear of God in them, I begin chipping away all the paint on their wings. Highly impressed, the enemy then tries to duplicate my feat. However, the attempt is clumsy and they end up shooting off one of my wings.

As my chute pops open I wave and laugh at the clumsy enemy as he flies back to his base with his head hung in shame.

And so, I continue to rule the skies over Russia.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Chuck_Older
10-30-2006, 10:20 AM
In my opinion it's hard to learn to fly the plane efficiently and correctly while at the same time teaching yourself about Air Combat Maneuvering online, not to mention doing both those things while simultaneously learning to hit what you shoot at

Offline teaches you everything except what human opponents do- you can learn to fly the plane (and what it can and cannot do), learn aerobatics, which is the cornerstone of ACM, and teach yourself to shoot straight, with the luxury of this little thing called the Pause button http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

if you are comfortable flying the plane in any situation, know how to recognise the onset of a spin-and instantly correct it without thinking- and you know what to do to take off and land in any weather, and how to dial in your gun range, then it's time to give the experienced players another clay pidgeon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Before that, you may be asking for a lot of aggravation<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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AWL_Spinner
10-30-2006, 10:46 AM
It is possible to shoot parachutes. If you ram them you will usually suffer damage and crash.

As an aside, you can collapse parachutes by flying just over the top of them; your wake turbulence is enough to wreck the dangler's day.

Not that I'd advocate that sort of behaviour, it's just not cricket.

The best thing about being an awful online flier like myself (well, fighters, I'm a pretty good ground pounding jock) are those rare occasions when you down someone - they're hugely rewarding and worth savouring!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Don_Karnage
10-30-2006, 11:08 AM
what is inaccurate about online play is if someone puts a single bullet in you, and 20 minutes later you stall and crash trying to do a pretty loop, they get credit for shooting you down!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Zoom2136
10-30-2006, 11:49 AM
For increasing your accuracy go there and download snyper's corner excel file

http://www.airwarfare.com/tactics/tactics_deflection.htm

A good way to get better at deflection shooting is to set up a fleight of FRIENDLY Dakotas (U.S. Transort Planes) and attack the poor unsuspecting bastard from every angle. This will help you estimate lead and make you a better shoot.

Remember Situation Awarness (S.A.) is the key to surviving online battles.

Always fly a bit higher then the typical engagement (for the server your flying)

If possible attack from above with speed... blast away... extend... evaluate you situation... and climb

Always use your plane strenght (climb vs turn) and your apponent's weakeness at your advantage...

BTW... get in close... and when you think you're close enough... get in closer... use a convergence of about 100m-150m this will make you an effective shoot up close(i.e. as long as a 109 fills you'r gunsight in a spitfire) but will deacrease as he is further away... with such a convergence forget long dead six trailing shoots of 300m + ...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Treetop64
10-30-2006, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Don_Karnage:
thanks again guys. Yes the AI seems to be able to do insane maneuvers without blacking out.

Lol! This guy catches on quick, doesn't he? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Don_Karnage
10-31-2006, 08:06 AM
ok I was flying the spitfire (1941) las night, and what is up with the cannons? Am I getting better or are the cannons on that thing ridiculously effective?

It seems id only need to fire a half a second burst and BOOm the enemy explodes..like I shot it with a howitzer or something.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Zoom2136
10-31-2006, 11:00 AM
Ahh yes... the 1941 spit VC4.... these 4 20mm cannons will work wonders....<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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FunGus1968
10-31-2006, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Don_Karnage:

I have an issue though, with online play.

Do enemys have icons on? I see black icons on planes taking off from my airfield, but am not sure what enemy is? Do they also have black icons?

I'm using the all seeing eye and joining dogfight only servers. Anything else I need to know about online play?

I invite you to join Zeke vrs Wildcats server. It's a no-icon, full difficulty environment. You'll learn to recognize planes by their shapes and even by the tracer fire. There is always a group of people on coms for both red and blue. Sometimes there aren't too many of us at once but flying with 4 other people who are on comms is better than 20 people who aren't. The server hosts objective based missions which you might enjoy.

http://www.warbirdsofprey.org/

Don_Karnage
10-31-2006, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Zoom2136:
Ahh yes... the 1941 spit VC4.... these 4 20mm cannons will work wonders....

any other planes with very effective guns i should try?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Don_Karnage
10-31-2006, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by FunGus1968:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Don_Karnage:

I have an issue though, with online play.

Do enemys have icons on? I see black icons on planes taking off from my airfield, but am not sure what enemy is? Do they also have black icons?

I'm using the all seeing eye and joining dogfight only servers. Anything else I need to know about online play?

I invite you to join Zeke vrs Wildcats server. It's a no-icon, full difficulty environment. You'll learn to recognize planes by their shapes and even by the tracer fire. There is always a group of people on coms for both red and blue. Sometimes there aren't too many of us at once but flying with 4 other people who are on comms is better than 20 people who aren't. The server hosts objective based missions which you might enjoy.

http://www.warbirdsofprey.org/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

what do you mean by com?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Low_Flyer_MkVb
10-31-2006, 02:09 PM
Short for 'communication' i.e. microphones & headsets.
Have always fancied it, even downloaded the necessary software, but parked in the corner of the living room screaming "Get that bounder off my six!" wouldn't go down very well (unlike me - who would no doubt go down very often if I ever took the online plunge). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TC_Stele
10-31-2006, 03:31 PM
You went to the right place by getting a hold of the "In Pursuit" book. I've found it very helpful and I only wish I had it to begin with when I first started flying.

Don Karnage....I use to watch TailSpin all the time when I was little! LOL.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Don_Karnage
10-31-2006, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
Short for 'communication' i.e. microphones & headsets.
Have always fancied it, even downloaded the necessary software, but parked in the corner of the living room screaming "Get that bounder off my six!" wouldn't go down very well (unlike me - who would no doubt go down very often if I ever took the online plunge). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I have a headset and mike, how do I use it in-game?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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"Fighting in the air is not sport. It is scientific murder."
-??? Captain Edward V. 'Eddie' Rickenbacker, USAS

Don_Karnage
10-31-2006, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by TC_Stele:
You went to the right place by getting a hold of the "In Pursuit" book. I've found it very helpful and I only wish I had it to begin with when I first started flying.

Don Karnage....I use to watch TailSpin all the time when I was little! LOL.

Yes I loved that show!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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"Fighting in the air is not sport. It is scientific murder."
-??? Captain Edward V. 'Eddie' Rickenbacker, USAS

RCAF_Irish_403
10-31-2006, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Don_Karnage:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zoom2136:
Ahh yes... the 1941 spit VC4.... these 4 20mm cannons will work wonders....

any other planes with very effective guns i should try? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tempest (4 x 20mm)
F4UC (ditto)
P47 (8 x .50 cal)
MiG 3 ShVAK
any IL2 (massive firepower)
Bf 109 G-K (carries the Mk 108 30mm nose cannon)<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. A 108:0 kill ratio is insignificant next to the power of the Force

http://www.fas.org/main/home.jsp

thefruitbat
10-31-2006, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Don_Karnage:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
Short for 'communication' i.e. microphones & headsets.
Have always fancied it, even downloaded the necessary software, but parked in the corner of the living room screaming "Get that bounder off my six!" wouldn't go down very well (unlike me - who would no doubt go down very often if I ever took the online plunge). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I have a headset and mike, how do I use it in-game? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

do a google for teamspeak, or download it at airwarfare.com. It is the comms most people use in my experience. Most common servers have there own teamspeak ip listed in the briefing. Really adds to immersion, and staying alive!

fruitbat<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RCAF_Irish_403
10-31-2006, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Don_Karnage:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
Short for 'communication' i.e. microphones & headsets.
Have always fancied it, even downloaded the necessary software, but parked in the corner of the living room screaming "Get that bounder off my six!" wouldn't go down very well (unlike me - who would no doubt go down very often if I ever took the online plunge). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I have a headset and mike, how do I use it in-game? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

do a google for teamspeak, or download it at airwarfare.com. It is the comms most people use in my experience. Most common servers have there own teamspeak ip listed in the briefing. Really adds to immersion, and staying alive!

fruitbat </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Comms are essential http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. A 108:0 kill ratio is insignificant next to the power of the Force

http://www.fas.org/main/home.jsp