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assassin1590
11-13-2007, 11:53 AM
review (http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/834/834724/vid_2198720.html)

Alitar2007
11-13-2007, 11:58 AM
Like I told you.

The top 5 most dissapointing game ever.

chickmgnt222
11-13-2007, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Alitar2007:
Like I told you.

The top 5 most dissapointing game ever.

Cookie? I got all kinds..

membernametaken
11-13-2007, 12:02 PM
Well, i've seen the video (after it took an hour or so to DL) and to be honest, i'm a little disenchanted with what i've heard.

Weighing all the factors on the release of this game, i've come to the conclusion that they knew what they made and that's the main reason they didn't release a demo. The biggest comment I agreed upon in this review is where he said it's definetely worth a rental over the weekend but it's not buying... which is truly unfortunate. I was looking forward to having a single player action game that would keep my interest for months to come but I just don't see that happening.

Another thing that bothers me is: I remember an interview with Jade where the guy asked whether or not you'd get a second chance to kill a target if you miss him the first time... she kind of avoided the answer and reiterated that you investigate beforehand and know when to kill him... then if you miss, you have to chase him. Basically, in the review, the guy says that there is a certain time and place to kill the target and if you don't get him at that moment, you lose.

The only other thing he complained about was the story where the sci-fi twist is revealed in the first 15 minutes and the whole rest of the game is boring because you already know the twist. I don't agree with this comment because the real part of the story that i'm interested in is what happens in 1191 A.D... not what happens in present day with Desmond.

Anyway, I haven't even played it, yet but, I know i'll be renting it before I buy it... if I even buy it. We'll see but i'm truly sad that things turned out this way... i've been waiting a long time but I suppose that's what I get for hyping it up so much in my mind.

Here's hoping that they improve things in the sequel... if there is one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Dvlos56
11-13-2007, 12:03 PM
Been saying that this game is not "all that"

I think IGN went off the deep end though.. its not THAT bad it deserves a 5/10

Dark_zip
11-13-2007, 12:03 PM
lol membernamtaken I'm gonna call you postplacetaken

can someon post link to normal version not HD it takes forever to load >_>

Ellis The Exile
11-13-2007, 12:06 PM
Without having to bother with his review, what number score did he actually give it?

Dvlos56
11-13-2007, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Revan_Razor:
Without having to bother with his review, what number score did he actually give it?

5 out of 10..

Firecracker22
11-13-2007, 12:09 PM
It sounds like he hated the story, which seems to have greatly affected the score.

So, if we can all like the story...I guess it'll get 4 more point in our book or something.

Leeness01
11-13-2007, 12:09 PM
He didn't give it a score.

Ellis The Exile
11-13-2007, 12:09 PM
Absolute ****. Thats all I can say to that review. I never let reviewers decide for me. If thats his opinion more power to him, but I buy every game I want and I really haven't been disappointed with any of them yet.

Some could be a lot better I admit, but I'm usually one of those people who loves a game that everyone else hates. This game combines some of my favorite elements from a video game so I am sure its a win. I'll know for myself this afternoon though.

jp_havok
11-13-2007, 12:10 PM
Just remember they gave BioShock a 9.5/10 and that game sucked hard

Dark_zip
11-13-2007, 12:10 PM
omg lol it took forever since you needed to fill in your birthday http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

barbasoll
11-13-2007, 12:12 PM
Downloading now... any spoilers in the review though?

cmkoehler
11-13-2007, 12:12 PM
I like the eavesdropping part: "You sit on a bench and hold Y... that's it!" - Really. It seems like it can't be a good thing, you only have to push one button. One! How can that be good?
I really like the idea of how it works. It's a crowd, so you get close to someone and watch/listen to them. Who cares if it's just one button....

assassin1590
11-13-2007, 12:13 PM
i made the topic and its still loading for me

Leeness01
11-13-2007, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by barbasoll:
Downloading now... any spoilers in the review though?

Kind of. They don't say anything outside of the "thing" we already know of, though.

...Unless you don't know the "thing", then, yes, definitely spoilers. :P

Exassassin
11-13-2007, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Dvlos56:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Revan_Razor:
Without having to bother with his review, what number score did he actually give it?

5 out of 10.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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IGN just sunk very very deep into the mud. Reading some reviews I had to agree with both TeamXbox and Gamespy and that it deserves an 8.0/8.5 but definitely not the 5 from IGN. They are telling me the game is worse than Prince of Persia: Warrior Within? Worse than F.E.A.R? Worse than Crackdown? Worse than Call of Juarez? And even worse than Spiderman 3? (Spiderman 3 got a 6). What has IGN been smoking?

Firecracker22
11-13-2007, 12:14 PM
There are some spoilers at the end when he goes a little into the story and comparing it to the Sixth Sense or something (I have no idea why), so when he starts talking about the story, the cue for that is "The story is where Assassins Creed fails the worst" or something like that. I had to close it after that, didn't want to hear the rest.

Firecracker22
11-13-2007, 12:15 PM
Gamespot and Game Informer are the ones I really look to. Bioshock was awesome, btw.

Leeness01
11-13-2007, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Exassassin:

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IGN just sunk very very deep into the mud. Reading some reviews I had to agree with both TeamXbox and Gamespy and that it deserves an 8.0/8.5 but definitely not the 5 from IGN. They are telling me the game is worse than Prince of Persia: Warrior Within? Worse than F.E.A.R? Worse than Crackdown? Worse than Call of Juarez? And even worse than Spiderman 3? (Spiderman 3 got a 6). What has IGN been smoking?

They didn't give it a score. Dvlos is lying.

Ellis The Exile
11-13-2007, 12:16 PM
I happen to have played through Spider-Man 3, multiple times. Same go's with F.E.A.R. Didn't play Warrior Within but meh. I think IGN is being way to harsh with this game. I may come to trust them less in the future when it comes to reviews. But as I've said, thats that reviewers opinion. God help us though the trolls will start trying to burn everything AC related down now..

lostassassin123
11-13-2007, 12:16 PM
That`s sad.....
A "nice" amount of people believes ign....
guess what`d they do? Cancel their pre-orders...
Looks like we won`t get a sequel http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif
Still, crossing my fingers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Zain0
11-13-2007, 12:16 PM
I honestly don't care what this guy thinks or any other reviewer thinks, they were expecting TOO much out of this game, I'm sure the game is fine, I'll be picking up my copy tomorrow and I'm sure I'll be enjoying this game for months to come..

Plus, his name is Hilary, who the hell is he to judge?

cmkoehler
11-13-2007, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Zain0:
Plus, his name is Hilary, who the hell is he to judge?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

There really is no score. He just said Top 5 most disappointing games, and his biggest complaint, like already mentioned, was the story, even more so than the repetitiveness.

Firecracker22
11-13-2007, 12:18 PM
They're judging it based on the hype. The very beginning says so.

"biggest disappointment for a game of this magnitude"....which is them reviewing it with the hype, and other games in mind.

Which is simply wrong.

dd22cowboys
11-13-2007, 12:20 PM
damn, the guy even recomended renting it not buying it...

kppgno80
11-13-2007, 12:21 PM
this was my biggest fear... that the game might get to repetetive... which is probably true...but im still getting it because it looks cool, it may get boring after A LONG time...but everything gets old and boring after awhile

Dark_zip
11-13-2007, 12:23 PM
watching now that presentator sounds bored http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

WeWantEasy
11-13-2007, 12:25 PM
his name is Hilary, who the hell is he to judge? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif you stole my thoughts from my head

Dvlos56
11-13-2007, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Leeness01:
They didn't give it a score. Dvlos is lying.

Hmm.. I'm watching it again, but now its loading REALLY slow.. maybe I heard Top 5 worst.. and thought it was the score.. I thought he called it a 5/10 one of the worst dissappoints of all time.. checking it again.

pillaysteven
11-13-2007, 12:26 PM
Repetition is not enough to call it a bad game. GTA:SA was very repetitive and it didn't get bad reviews.

The story it seems isn't for everyone but I think I will enjoy it and that's all that matters.

I hope ign can get over their dislike of the futuristic part of the story because I would say that will be the basis for the franchise Ubisoft are creating.

Oh and THERE WAS NO SCORE!!! It did NOT get 5/10. Top 5 disappointments (which IMO is very harsh).

ReaZeN2005
11-13-2007, 12:29 PM
i agree with that guy or IGN, or who the hell was that gave it that review.. When i saw the 45 minutes of Major spoilers, i actually got a little disappointed.. I was just: "Huh?" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

But 5/10, I DISAGREE!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

dd22cowboys
11-13-2007, 12:31 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ReaZeN2005:
i agree with that guy or IGN, or who the hell was that gave it that review.. When i saw the 45 minutes of Major spoilers, i actually got a little disappointed.. I was just: "Huh?" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
QUOTE]

about what exactly?????? you got to back up what you say...

Exassassin
11-13-2007, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Dark_zip:
watching now that presentator sounds bored http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

He laughs, he sounds bored. He basically has a huge tone of sarcasm and boredom in his voice as well, like he doesn't actually mean it or that he hasn't slept for days. And his name is Hilary!? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif -

Leeness01
11-13-2007, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Dvlos56:


Hmm.. I'm watching it again, but now its loading REALLY slow.. maybe I heard Top 5 worst.. and thought it was the score.. I thought he called it a 5/10 one of the worst dissappoints of all time.. checking it again.

Okay, I guess I can forgive you. :P He said it was "one of the top five most disappointing games of all time, of this magnitude", or something to that effect.

I just got a little ticked off because you were going around saying 5/10 and some people were all "OH GOD?!"

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

lostassassin123
11-13-2007, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by ReaZeN2005:
i agree with that guy or IGN, or who the hell was that gave it that review.. When i saw the 45 minutes of Major spoilers, i actually got a little disappointed.. I was just: "Huh?" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

But 5/10, I DISAGREE!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
O rly?
Because when I saw those 45 mins, I was like "WoW, the originalest tutorial, storyline, theme and gameplay!"
that was 11.4/10 for me....
Watching reviews now, makes me sad....many people decide to buy a game from a review http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Ellis The Exile
11-13-2007, 12:35 PM
If you think this is bad you should see the Gamespot forums, the trolls are having a field day with the not stellar reviews that have come out today.

b-busher
11-13-2007, 12:35 PM
I just finished watching it and it wasnt as bad as I thought it would be from the sounds of you guys and their was no score at the end.

TheECP
11-13-2007, 12:37 PM
I just lost respect for IGN, all the stuff they criticized doesn't even sound like a bad thing....

ParanoiD84
11-13-2007, 12:40 PM
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pillaysteven
11-13-2007, 12:42 PM
Exactly. I mean they complain when you interrogate someone by punching them and then complain that you listen to someone talking without punching them. I mean what the hell!?

jp_havok
11-13-2007, 12:51 PM
I liked the part where he criticized eaves dropping, I mean, what he hell else are you supposed to do while EAVES DROPPING. Start jumping around flailing your arms, or like every other cookie cutter game walk up and stab him and talk to him while dieing, wow sooo realistic.

Also, about Bio Shock, the story was so so, but the game was mega liner to the point of Shinobi for PS2

TheECP
11-13-2007, 12:52 PM
Yeah, I'll never understand why so many people liked Bioshock, I though the game was rather boring.

Ellis The Exile
11-13-2007, 12:53 PM
IGN gave it a 7.7 out of 10. Thats Good by their rating system. So its another ok review, anyone who is upset by the fact it isn't getting all 10's I kind of feel bad for you to expect a game like this one to unite people from all fronts. Especially when they are taking so many innovations with this game. Some people love innovation, other people hate it. Remember that.

unnamedninja
11-13-2007, 12:55 PM
I liked the part where he criticized eaves dropping, I mean, what he hell else are you supposed to do while EAVES DROPPING. Start jumping around flailing your arms

The eavesdropping complaint was pretty ridiculous. But it was just mind-boggling when he complained that "if you get into trouble it doesnt really matter because you can kill the guards or run away" that's every single game which has guards in it, ever.

winner9000
11-13-2007, 12:57 PM
IGN gave it a 7.7
Link:http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/834/834676p1.html

Dvlos56
11-13-2007, 12:58 PM
I think the answer is this:

- If you like free running and a duality story between the past and the sci-fi future.

You will get a lot more out of AC. Some gamers will look at all the non-combat running around and love it..

- If you don't like free running all that much you'll constantly say "where's the game" and if you think the sci-fi story is cheesy (And I love sci fi just not AC's sci fi) you'll just not like this game.

There's going to be a giant rift with this game, this much is evident today I think. Between those that "Get" the good points and can revel in it, and those that cannot. Neither side is wrong... it would be wise to determine what kind of gamer you are before purchasing, and if you are not sure rent it.

pillaysteven
11-13-2007, 01:00 PM
I think the IGN reviewer needs to be reminded that the eavesdropping sections are pretty much interactive cut-scenes. Where you still have some control over the player but your listening to people speak and watching as the story progresses.

I have to admit I'm a little big worried about the futuristic element (I still haven't read the spoilers) but hopefully I will be able to enjoy that part of the story.

Another worrying thing. In the written IGN review they say load times of 5 mins!!! I mean Oblivion had a huge world and didn't have loads near that length, although it did have annoying streaming loading which AC doesn't have. I guess all those interactive objects take a long time to load.

jp_havok
11-13-2007, 01:03 PM
I bet if you said asked anyone who reviews about how bad Halo 2/3 was they would'nt admit that it was a piece of **** wrapped in plastic with a name and logo. They would say "Game of the year" which is pretty much laughable. As Halo 3 was pretty much what was promised in Halo 2 that could have been fixed with downloadable content.

tromadz
11-13-2007, 01:07 PM
Wow, this guy should not review video games. I don't think he knows how they work.

He complains about only hiding in the hay for about 20 seconds before the guards get over it. I guess he wants to sit in hay for 20 MINUTES till they give up, because you know, doing nothing for 20 minutes is so much fun. Every video game should have a part where you do nothing for 20 minutes.

He said the fighting is easy yet the video they showed was Altair straight up getting his butt kicked. It's like the video editor was making fun of ol Hilary Clinton there.

I don't think Hilary gets that the big thing with this game is 'social stealth.' the eavesdropping ('you lock on and press a button, thats it! durrr!') and beatdown interrogations are supposed to be simple in theory.

He says the fighting\eavesdropping\running is good in small spurts, it gets repetitive. I don't get this. It's an assassin game. Is he supposed to go play some pool like in GTA:SA? Or go play on the go carts? You're an assassin. You assassinate. Tired of it? Go find the flags and explore the beautiful art.

"the controls for assassin's creed are really inventive." When he said this, he sounded SO disappointed. This guy has an agenda. I hope he doesn't do the actual review, cuz if people see a bad review on IGN, it will hurt the game. I love IGN, and take a lot of stock in their ratings most of the time...a lot of people do.

He does say the climbing and rooftop running is fun, and when it boils down to it, isn't that really what this game was about?

Also, the gameplay clips of rooftop running looked absolutely amazing. AMAZING.

Hilary should lose his job. And his name.

AirRon_2K7
11-13-2007, 01:10 PM
Hmm.. I'm watching it again, but now its loading REALLY slow.. maybe I heard Top 5 worst.. and thought it was the score.. I thought he called it a 5/10 one of the worst dissappoints of all time.. checking it again.

No, not that it's much better but, he said it was in the top 5 most disappointing games of all time. Which is a mad exageration. Plus, I shouldn't be saying he, it's obviously a girl with a very deep voice - hence: Hilary.

He doesn't like the game, evidently, but as I said once upon a time, I LIKE the repetition. I don't like change as a rule, that doesn't mean that if a game has change in... it sucks. But in life, change irks me... I like trying to perfect a singular thing anyway http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif.

Dark_zip
11-13-2007, 01:12 PM
hilary is a boy's name and Hillary is a girls name still that sucks for him big time maby that why he talks like that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

endo23
11-13-2007, 01:13 PM
Look, the hype for this game has been off the chain and now people are disappointed because-- gasp!-- it isn't perfect! Big shocker there. Remember it took COD four titles to achieve near-perfection, same for GTA... All of the folks here who are predisposed to love AC will probably enjoy it immensely-- so don't worry so much about the reviews, they're not the end of the world. By this time tomorrow, you'll be able to decide for yourself.

On the other hand, why are people suddenly ****ging BioShock? The game was beautiful to behold and had an awesome storyline, something too few games bother with (Halo, Gears, AHEM). No need to dis a quality title just because Assassin is getting a few bad reviews... Relax.

chickmgnt222
11-13-2007, 01:13 PM
I hate how reviewers (and players) will resort to the ol' "it gets repetitive" when it comes to open-ended games. Newsflash... it only gets as repetitive as you make it.

I said this in another thread too, but it's like reviewers saying the combat in Dark Messiah is a repetitive kick-fest. Well, yeah, it IS if you use kick all the time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

El_256k
11-13-2007, 01:15 PM
4 years of repetitive story? please no ubi... nooooo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

pillaysteven
11-13-2007, 01:22 PM
I hate how reviewers (and players) will resort to the ol' "it gets repetitive"

Now that I think of it... Shadow of the Colossus. For a repetitive game you need look no further and yet IGN gave it a 9.7. Which it deserved IMO. I think they've gotten far far too demanding.

Reviewers go on about forking out $60 or euro for a single player game and yet had no problem doing the same for a shorter repetitive game just a few years ago. And the only thing to do while riding your horse was look at the scenery. Which was amazing, but is Assassin's Creed's scenery any less so?

Seragath
11-13-2007, 01:43 PM
well..i havent seen the review myself...and i dont know the story... so i stop too when i hear that "The story is where Assassins Creed fails the worst".. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

DeadCorpseAC
11-13-2007, 01:48 PM
Ok, now I'm disappointed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

SpyderNynja
11-13-2007, 01:58 PM
i have lost respect for IGN, I am now going only to gametrailers for reviews. ever since they let that girl...oh wait...guy, Hillary Goldstein, review games, its been total ****. He give all the first person shooters, even the bad ones, high scores, and all the innovative new action games low scores. He doesn't like action games! He's biased! Don't believe Hillary Goldstein! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

JohnsHomegirl
11-13-2007, 02:00 PM
Regular review is up... 7.7...

Not bad, but I really hoped for better. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

AirRon_2K7
11-13-2007, 02:01 PM
Yeah.. wasn't Collusus just 'kill that teddy bear' x 10?

lukenichols
11-13-2007, 02:03 PM
thats just a pathetic review and made me laugh

omg you only eavesdrop.... well he is an assassin........

omg you have to side quests...... great makes it more interesting

you'll only play it once... no i ownt

lukenichols
11-13-2007, 02:06 PM
worst review ever

$50 he doesnt have a social life

moaned like a girl

joshuagiraffe
11-13-2007, 02:10 PM
Reviews are just opinions, and everyone has a different one. Don't base a game on a review until you actually tried it.

JohnsHomegirl
11-13-2007, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by AirRon_2K7:
Yeah.. wasn't Collusus just 'kill that teddy bear' x 10?

SotC is by far one of the greatest PS2 games I've ever played. Much more unrecognized depth if you just look at it on the surface.

AirRon_2K7
11-13-2007, 02:14 PM
Which is what mr hilary did by all accounts, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's bad... but the main ... murders, were a bit repetitive.. no?

JohnsHomegirl
11-13-2007, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by lukenichols:
no i ownt

you've just admitted your self pwnage. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Seriously though, IGN is whacked. Cr@p happens, sometimes bad reviews come in from trusted sites (like KH2 from IGN and Ratchet and Clank Future from Gamespot). It's times like these where you have to just shrug it off.

Now if Gamespot gives it a lower review too... then we have something to complain about. Possibly... We might need to actually play the games ourselves to find out. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Regardless, I'm so getting it!

pillaysteven
11-13-2007, 02:16 PM
Murdering/assassinating people is repetitive... it's the situation that changes. And I didn't want it to go all Manhunt with situational executions.

auntsoesa
11-13-2007, 02:23 PM
ac didnt deserves this. they gave it a 5 because it was dissapointing because they expected the game better so that isnt fair. if they would never heard about the game and they would play it they would be very impresive. this day sucks.

degavas
11-13-2007, 02:24 PM
Well here is a game that he gave a similar score to which came out not too long ago.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/799/799368p1.html

For those of you that have played The Darkness, it should be interesting to compare the Graphics and Presentation aspects.

JohnsHomegirl
11-13-2007, 02:26 PM
I can understand the concept of the possibility that this game is repetitive, as the grand scheme of things are vaguely similar to that of Mercenaries, which was... brace yourselves... pretty repetitive. Needless to say it was still a good game.

Although, I think IGN was more than likely too harsh, seeing as Gametrailers and Gamespot have given higher reviews. I'm leaning toward them on this one.

spazzoo1025
11-13-2007, 02:47 PM
hey JohnsHomegirl, are you MeloniesHomeboy's girlfriend?

JohnsHomegirl
11-13-2007, 02:53 PM
Sure am! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Raide
11-13-2007, 03:16 PM
Carry on the chat over at Reviews Sticky (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/1191057706)

Cheers!

Raide
UK Forum Manager