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Freelancer-1
06-22-2007, 11:07 PM
I found a nice Q-15 that I'd like to skin.

I was thinking of just painting it over a Q-10.

As far as I have found, there isn't a whole lotta difference between the different Q's.

Then again maybe I just haven't researched enough.

My questions:

Is there any cosmetic differences between the different Q models? If so, what are they?

Or can I just go ahead and slap it on the Q-10 void?

Thanks,

R_Target
06-22-2007, 11:22 PM
Four bladed prop on the later Q models. Other than that, they look identical to me.

Polyperhon
06-26-2007, 08:17 AM
Are you the guy RONNCO that makes skins? If you are, I think that your skins are excellent.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
06-26-2007, 08:51 AM
He is, and they are. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

SlickStick
06-26-2007, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Freelancer-1:
I found a nice Q-15 that I'd like to skin.

I was thinking of just painting it over a Q-10.

As far as I have found, there isn't a whole lotta difference between the different Q's.

Then again maybe I just haven't researched enough.

My questions:

Is there any cosmetic differences between the different Q models? If so, what are they?

Or can I just go ahead and slap it on the Q-10 void?

Thanks,

I'm assuming the Q-15 is the Ace Rechkalov AI model? I think you can safely use the Q-10 void. The Q-1 has wing pods, but IIRC the Q-10 and Q-15 are close enough.

faustnik
06-26-2007, 10:25 AM
No major changes from Q-10 to Q-15.

Skarphol
06-26-2007, 11:46 AM
This is shamelessly stolen from Joe Baughers homepage: http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/oldseriesfighters.html (http://home.att.net/%7Ejbaugher1/oldseriesfighters.html)

"There were several production blocks of the P-39Q:

P-39Q-1-BE: Retained the 72.4 Imp gallon fuel capacity of the P-39N-5 but returned to the original 231 pounds of armor of the P-39N-1.

P-39Q-2-BE: Five Q-1s were modified to carry cameras for photographic reconnaissance by adding K-24 and K-25 cameras in the aft fuselage. P-39Q-5-BE (Model 26Q-5): Reverted to the lighter armor fit of the P-39N-5 (193.4 pounds), as well as the use of the full wing fuel capacity (92.6 Imp gall) characteristic of the P-39M. Type A-1 bombsight adapters were added to the P-39Q-5-BEs at the Modification Center before delivery to operational units.

P-39Q-6-BE: 148 Q-5s were modified to carry cameras for photographic reconnaissance by adding K-24 and K-25 cameras in the aft fuselage.

P-39Q-10-BE (Model 26Q-10): Internal fuel capacity rose to 100 Imp gallons and armor weight went to 227.1 pounds. The throttle was linked to the propeller settings to provide automatic adjustments. There was additional winterization of the oil system, and there were rubber engine mounts installed. The first P-39Q-10-BEs were delivered to the USAAF by the end of July 1943. A total of 705 examples were built, but 995 more that were assigned serial numbers 42-21251/22245 were actually completed as P-63E-1 Kingcobras.

P-39Q-11-BE: Eight Q-10s were modified to carry cameras for photographic reconnaissance by adding K-24 and K-25 cameras in the aft fuselage.

P-39Q-15-BE (Model 26Q-15): Differed from the Q-10 in minor equipment variations. Among these was a reinforced inclined deck to prevent 0.50-inch machine gun tripod mounting cracking, bulkhead reinforcements to prevent rudder pedal wall cracking, a reinforced reduction gearbox bulkhead to prevent cowling former cracking, and repositioning of the battery solenoid. This example was delivered beginning in August of 1943. 1000 examples were built.

P-39Q-20-BE (Model 26Q-20): The underwing 0.50-inch machine gun pods were sometimes omitted in this version.

P-39Q-21-BE: Similar to P-39Q-20, but a four-bladed Aeroproducts propeller was fitted.

P-39Q-25-BE (Model 26Q-25): Similar to the Q-21 but with a reinforced aft-fuselage and horizontal stabilizer structure and a four-bladed Aeroproducts propeller. The wing guns were deleted from these aircraft, which were exported to the Soviet Union. 700 were built.

P-39Q-30-BE: Tests indicated that directional stability was materially worsened by the four-bladed propeller, and this version reverted to the three-bladed unit. This was the last production version of the P-39Q.

On July 25, 1944, all P-39 production ceased, with 9558 examples being produced.

A few P-39Qs were modified into two seaters with dual controls for use as advanced trainers under the designation RP-39Q (redesignated TP-39Q after 1944). All armament was removed. The second cockpit was sort of "grafted" in front of the original cockpit, and the pilot in this extra cockpit sat under a hinged canopy. The extra cockpit was fitted with only rudimentary controls. The original cockpit retained the same controls and instruments as the standard P-39Q. The instructor sat in front in the extra cockpit, the student in the original cockpit, and the two communicated via an intercom telephone. The tail fillet was enlarged and an additional shallow ventral fin was fitted under the rear fuselage. These modifications produced one of the most grotesque aircraft I have ever seen. :-). The first example, converted from P-39Q-5 42-20024, was rolled out for the first time on September 16, 1943. It was designated TP-39Q-5. 12 two-seater fighter trainers were converted from P-39Q-20s, and were designated RP-39Q-22. The ventral strake was somewhat different in shape from that of the ventral fin of the original TP-39Q-5. Serials were 44-3879, 3885/3887, 3889, 3895, 3897, 3905, 3906, 3908, 3917, and 3918.

The first P-39Qs were delivered to Eglin Field, Florida and Wright Field, Ohio for testing. The first P-39Qs were delivered to the Army Air force by the end of July of 1943.

Production of the P-39Q finally terminated in August of 1944. Most of the P-39Qs were delivered to the Soviet Union. Only a few ended up serving with American units. One of these was the 332nd Fighter Group which took on 75 P-39Qs in Italy in February 1944. After only two months, these Airacobras were replaced by P-47s, finally retiring the type from US service. "

Skarphol

Freelancer-1
06-26-2007, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:

I'm assuming the Q-15 is the Ace Rechkalov AI model? I think you can safely use the Q-10 void. The Q-1 has wing pods, but IIRC the Q-10 and Q-15 are close enough.

Here's the one I'm looking at:

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/p39/index.htm

SlickStick
06-26-2007, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Freelancer-1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SlickStick:

I'm assuming the Q-15 is the Ace Rechkalov AI model? I think you can safely use the Q-10 void. The Q-1 has wing pods, but IIRC the Q-10 and Q-15 are close enough.

Here's the one I'm looking at:

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/p39/index.htm </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, I misunderstood. You want to skin the flyable Q-10 to look like a Q-15, not skin the AI Q-15. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Freelancer-1
06-26-2007, 01:18 PM
Yessir!

You are correct.

After going through a ream of reference material, I ended up redrawing all the rivets, inspection hatches and some panel lines.

I think all the voids ingame are based on the D series or something.

What a PITA it turned out to be.

I ended up deciding to put it over the Q-10 due to the fact that this plane had it's under wing guns removed. But normally I think it would be a good fit for the Q-1.

DKoor
06-26-2007, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Polyperhon:
Are you the guy RONNCO that makes skins? If you are, I think that your skins are excellent. QFT