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Bartsimpson-
03-07-2006, 02:15 AM
What could be the in the near future , Found this > http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentre/showthread.php?t=10365

translation from russian site .

Bartman .

Capt.LoneRanger
03-07-2006, 02:36 AM
OMG - we get more bombers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

And the "feature list" of BoB looks awesome - damage where bullets hit - that means indeed no predefined damage-modells! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

OMG [drivels on his keyboard]


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TX-Zen
03-07-2006, 04:36 AM
Luftwaffe:

Flyable:
Bf-109 E3, Bf-110 C4, He-111 H-2, He-111 P-2, Ju-87 B-2, Ju-88 A-1



GRRRRRR

I would have at least thought there would be a version of the 190 available for the channel wars period. I like the 109, but it's no 190. I guess I'll just roam around in a Junkers til it shows up.

"Dynamic weather
New technology allowing precise terrain and ground object rendering
Large cities like London will not be deserted and lifeless anymore"

Those are very exciting comments however and features like that are one of the main reasons I will buy BoB even though it covers a period for which I don't particularly like the plane set. Historically BoB is fascinating and thats where I got my start reading about WW2 aviation, but I just don't like to sim it.

Still, I'll support the franchise and poney up my rupees, all the while secretly dreaming of when he adds the 190. But then I'm just a silly Focker at heart.

jds1978
03-07-2006, 04:39 AM
WHOA! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

hotspace
03-07-2006, 04:47 AM
Yummy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

HotelBushranger
03-07-2006, 04:50 AM
Beauty http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

F19_Olli72
03-07-2006, 04:55 AM
Dissapointed.

No flyable Defiant or Avro Rota Mk.I! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

BGs_Ricky
03-07-2006, 05:02 AM
Looks very promising !!
It would be nice if we could get the Do-17 flyable as well.

Bartsimpson-
03-07-2006, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by TX-Zen:
Luftwaffe:

Flyable:
Bf-109 E3, Bf-110 C4, He-111 H-2, He-111 P-2, Ju-87 B-2, Ju-88 A-1



GRRRRRR

I would have at least thought there would be a version of the 190 available for the channel wars period. I like the 109, but it's no 190. I guess I'll just roam around in a Junkers til it shows up.

"Dynamic weather
New technology allowing precise terrain and ground object rendering
Large cities like London will not be deserted and lifeless anymore"

Those are very exciting comments however and features like that are one of the main reasons I will buy BoB even though it covers a period for which I don't particularly like the plane set. Historically BoB is fascinating and thats where I got my start reading about WW2 aviation, but I just don't like to sim it.

Still, I'll support the franchise and poney up my rupees, all the while secretly dreaming of when he adds the 190. But then I'm just a silly Focker at heart.

Well if it supposed to be based on historical time period ie: - bob july 1940 through to spring 1941 , i doubt you'll ever see any version of a fw190 included as i recollect the first 190's dident start arriving in the western theatre till early 1942 .

Bartman .

jds1978
03-07-2006, 07:42 AM
did you guys get the part about "every AI having their own preferred method of attack"?

that sounds sweet...no more generic AI...they are going to have "personality"

Capt.LoneRanger
03-07-2006, 07:48 AM
Can't wait for the E3 - 2 month to go.

Vigilanty
03-07-2006, 08:12 AM
Flyable Blenheim - yummy!

LEXX_Luthor
03-07-2006, 08:24 AM
In the magazine scans, on the second scan on lower right, I think is the MiG-9 cockpit for future FB/PF VVS-46 addon pac.

JG4_Helofly
03-07-2006, 09:23 AM
very good points are the DM and the few aircrafts ( not 100 subvariants ). I hope for a 190 in a later add on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It will be great to see exactly where you have hit the ennemie plane. Planes with little holes will fly like planes with little holes ( not like fw 190 now ) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

blackpulpit1970
03-07-2006, 09:46 AM
'first release is BoB, then we will go around the whole WWII again.
BoB will be just the first in the line of series.'

-Oleg Maddox Feb 2005

Chuck_Older
03-07-2006, 10:02 AM
Hey guys-

It's no secret that there will be fewer flyables in BoB to begin with

This has been the gameplan all along- more detail, less flyables. We are spoiled with FB/PF and flyables. Be patient

Treetop64
03-07-2006, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:damage where bullets hit - that means indeed no predefined damage-modells! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Pretty cool, that. The technology has been used in FPSs for quite some time now, and it will be nice to see it implemented in a flight sim.

Chuck_Older
03-07-2006, 10:13 AM
Oh, PS- not to get too excoted (One of the add-ons was listed as being sceduled for last month)

BUT I felt light-headed when I read:

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Ki-27 in April</span>

hopefully this is a true pay add-on, and not just a regional release.

Sandman_UK
03-07-2006, 10:47 AM
its going to be painful starting all over again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I love all the content we have right now. Even though most servers are WF I suppose the next addon will have to be somwhere where the US gets involved to bring the next lot in?

LEXX_Luthor
03-07-2006, 11:02 AM
Its not really starting over -- unless we *only* consider single seat arcade dogfight planes. War Storm seems to be totally *new* in focusing as much on Flyable multi-crew bombers as the normal "flight sim" shooter planes.

Think of Forgotten Battles having Flyable Ju-87, Bf-110, He-111, Ju-88, Blenheim, and BR.20 at the time of original FB 1.0. Imagine that.

This bomber focus is a (fairly) new concept for Oleg. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif Wings Over Vietnam out-of-box actually has more Flyable bombers than Flyable fighters.

russ.nl
03-07-2006, 11:36 AM
Thx Bart http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Ooooohhh I can't wait for "Storm of War", as the new IL-2 series apperently is called. Great to hear some news about BoB. You can really see this will be a next generation in game play. Or maybe we will not even dear to call it a game. 1CMaddox really thougt about every espect.

And will the negative people plz SHUT UP. You don't even know the game yet. You see something new and you biatch about what you don't see.

russ.nl
03-07-2006, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Hey guys-

It's no secret that there will be fewer flyables in BoB to begin with

This has been the gameplan all along- more detail, less flyables. We are spoiled with FB/PF and flyables. Be patient

Yes, but there will be more pay addons. I know there is allready a addon being made by 3rd party for the low countries.

Willey
03-07-2006, 12:53 PM
Great stuff, especially those screens. I'm just a bit disappointed of the little BoB planes count. I had expected the Italians flyable (there are even some BR20 cockpit WIP screens around!), and some more of the British stuff.

At least, the 110 is flyable http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Willey
03-07-2006, 12:55 PM
I wonder what a LaGG-3RD is... google = 0. Probably a LaGG 66 with RD-1 drive in the tail. I would prefer a Pe-2RU (same stuff, just a late Pe-2 with "rocket tail").

LEXX_Luthor
03-07-2006, 04:58 PM
I don't think its a Lagg-3.

Gu-VRD project. Provisional designation K-37. I don't think it flew, so I'm off to the StrikeFighters board before the Storm of Whining starts. Before I flee, I'll drop this into the pott.

here, Jet Lagg ~> http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/News/SHARENEWSbulletin.html#Engines (http://aeroweb.lucia.it/%7Eagretch/News/SHARENEWSbulletin.html#Engines)

The essay is at page bottom. If the link does not take you to the last essay, its the last one.

Another...

Russian jet technology of 1937-45 ~> http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/JetEngines.html (http://aeroweb.lucia.it/%7Eagretch/RAFAQ/JetEngines.html)

darkhorizon11
03-07-2006, 05:06 PM
BoB looks pretty sick. Looks like we may see it in Q4 2006 or Q1 2007 afterall!

I'm hoping for some more complex management of aircraft systems, I noticed nothing about that was mentioned... But still hopefully they advance it more from FB.

Ill definitely be look forward to this one!

Haigotron
03-07-2006, 05:35 PM
As for the Pay-add-ons, I cant read russian, are there any details written in the article such as price and features?


Who here will buy them?

oh...i think that "where bullet hits is where you get hit in FPS" is called per-pixel damage model...like doom 3 has it... (or any doom 3 engine game for that matter)

oh...IM FREAKING EXCITED FOR BOB...i just wear depends now to not go change pants every so often http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Chuck_Older
03-07-2006, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by russ.nl:
Thx Bart http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Ooooohhh I can't wait for "Storm of War", as the new IL-2 series apperently is called. Great to hear some news about BoB. You can really see this will be a next generation in game play. Or maybe we will not even dear to call it a game. 1CMaddox really thougt about every espect.



Just a clarification- it seems to me that "Storm of War" is not a new Il-2 series. It seems that the working title of "Battle of Britain:Cliffs of Dover" has been dropped, and that 'Storm of War' and Oleg's BoB are one and the same, unless I am very much in error http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VW-IceFire
03-07-2006, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Sandman_UK:
its going to be painful starting all over again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I love all the content we have right now. Even though most servers are WF I suppose the next addon will have to be somwhere where the US gets involved to bring the next lot in?
My guess, based on what Oleg's said in the past, will be that BoB will release with the flyables listed above then perhaps a patch or two adds the 2 or 3 necessary flyables for 1941 Channel Front war (my guess) and then the next paid product will be the Mediteranian which will be largely British for the first bit but that front quickly became filled with P-40s, P-39s, P-38s, and so forth. At least two USAAF units flew Spitfire V and VIII in 1942 and 1943.

So the Americans will probably jump on board sometime around there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But Battle of Britain is an awesome air war to cover. I grew up watching The Battle of Britain movie.

danjama
03-07-2006, 06:36 PM
The new AI sounds fantastic. I may actually start flying campaigns if they give AI personalitys.

BTW i doubt that the listed flyables is a finished list.

I admit this is all very exciting, i just cant wait!

FlatSpinMan
03-07-2006, 07:41 PM
Yaaaayy! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

russ.nl
03-07-2006, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by russ.nl:
Thx Bart http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Ooooohhh I can't wait for "Storm of War", as the new IL-2 series apperently is called. Great to hear some news about BoB. You can really see this will be a next generation in game play. Or maybe we will not even dear to call it a game. 1CMaddox really thougt about every espect.



Just a clarification- it seems to me that "Storm of War" is not a new Il-2 series. It seems that the working title of "Battle of Britain:Cliffs of Dover" has been dropped, and that 'Storm of War' and Oleg's BoB are one and the same, unless I am very much in error http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry you mis understood me I think. What I meant to say was that I thought that Storm of War is the name fore the new maddox series. Like Storm of War: BoB Cliffs of Dover, Storm of War: BoB England strikes back (or something), Storm of War: The Low Countries. Something like that.
Then again maybe I don't quit understand. English isn't my native language. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-08-2006, 12:30 AM
Well, variety of planes is one thing and some maybe will prefer it, but honestly I'm glad the number is decreased, the detail increased vastly. You know that the new planes don't just have skins but actually have internal modelling? No more looking through a hollow wing, if you got hit. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

To the engine management freaks: Just a small hint - look at the SpitfireMKI vid. I know it's just WIP, but I doubt they would animate mixture controls and seperate magneto-switches, if you weren't able to control them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

And just as a reminder:
http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2BOB/index.htm

There's all the collected information that was so far released about BoB. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

darkhorizon11
03-08-2006, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by TX-Zen:
Luftwaffe:

Flyable:
Bf-109 E3, Bf-110 C4, He-111 H-2, He-111 P-2, Ju-87 B-2, Ju-88 A-1



GRRRRRR

I would have at least thought there would be a version of the 190 available for the channel wars period. I like the 109, but it's no 190. I guess I'll just roam around in a Junkers til it shows up.

"Dynamic weather
New technology allowing precise terrain and ground object rendering
Large cities like London will not be deserted and lifeless anymore"

Those are very exciting comments however and features like that are one of the main reasons I will buy BoB even though it covers a period for which I don't particularly like the plane set. Historically BoB is fascinating and thats where I got my start reading about WW2 aviation, but I just don't like to sim it.

Still, I'll support the franchise and poney up my rupees, all the while secretly dreaming of when he adds the 190. But then I'm just a silly Focker at heart.

I don't quite understand your languish...

The FW-190 didn't participate in the BoB. There are other missing aircraft from that planeset that did take part... I think we should get those first.

Although it takes patience which is hard for me too eventually it'll get in there. BoB will eventually expand to the entire war (maybe even the Pacific http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif). I mean how much interest and attention did this game jump to when it expanded to cover western Europe! BoB is still a much more popular genre than the Eastern Front.

It should also be pointed out that although I'm glad the city is more vibrant, it shouldn't be too vibrant. During wartime (esp. during BoB) there was a shortage of everything especially rubber and fuel. Therefore traffic was at a minimum and during the actual raids all the civilians were hunkered down in the bunkers. And remember with the radar and airraid sirens there were very few surprise attacks so attacking a vibrant London filled with traffic and lit up bright didn't happen...

I dunno, just a rant there I'm still glad to see there is more interactivity but lets not go nuts. Features are great, but I'm more worried about essential things like improved AI with some basic "common sense" and the more complex aircraft system management.

But no matter what 1c can take comfort that everyone including myself WILL be buying it!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

eskimo-again
03-08-2006, 12:50 AM
i wish the pictures in the article were a bit more high res.

it is very hard to tell what outside views are like. there is this bit of a village in the background and some explosions but they dont really look much different than current IL2, dont you think.

also what chuck_older said about the next pay addon having been slated for feb 2006 ?
does that mean we will get a suprise release of a pay for addon soonish ?

that would be awesome!!!

to be honest. no matter what BOB brings graphic wise i would buy it simply for the improved AI (if it can deliver as advertised).
just imagine the possibilities.
that combined with a server type that allows refly AND AI planes would really make my day/year(s).

we could have servers running campaigns in real time and you would get to go up against planes no matter whether there is other people around.

darkhorizon11
03-08-2006, 01:05 AM
I agree the current graphics in PF are great, my only complaint would be for an increased vis distance and ground objects that fade into view and are visible further away.

And I should point out that we've been spoiled by Oleg. FB 1.0 had maybe 60 total aicraft many of which were imported from original IL2. BoB according to this article on par is still on par with most flight sims. How many flyable did Lock-On start with? How about CFS3 (without 3rd party stuff) or Rowans?

I still count 10 flyables and 20 non (although the Sunderland is listed as a possible).

The only significant plane plane MIA that saw a lot of use in the battle is the 109D that I can see.

Capt.LoneRanger
03-08-2006, 01:19 AM
eskimo-again wrote:


it is very hard to tell what outside views are like. there is this bit of a village in the background and some explosions but they dont really look much different than current IL2, dont you think.

There is no outside view of BoB. You are refering to the PE-2 IL2-Addon, so of course the town looks like in IL2, because it is. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

The planelist is nowhere near complete, so why worry about it? Waste of time, nothing more.

There are pictures of a bunch of other a/c for BoB complete with cockpits allready on their website. Just wait for the next E3 and hope Oleg will be there.

eskimo-again
03-08-2006, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
eskimo-again wrote:

There is no outside view of BoB. You are refering to the PE-2 IL2-Addon, so of course the town looks like in IL2, because it is. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



ah that explains it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-08-2006, 03:16 AM
I hope we will see some BoB screenies around the E3 in L.A. this year. If I knew for sure, Oleg would present BoB then, I'd really consider going there.

JG53Frankyboy
03-08-2006, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
..............
The only significant plane plane MIA that saw a lot of use in the battle is the 109D that I can see.

Bf109D in combat over the channel from june 1940 till november 1940 ??
wich unit should that be ??

Beirut
03-08-2006, 04:09 AM
All of that... and still no Lancaster.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-08-2006, 04:22 AM
Beirut, the Avro Lancaster entered service in 1942. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

major_setback
03-08-2006, 04:28 AM
'Storm of War' isn't a good title in my opinion. I can see why 'Cliffs of Dover' doesn't suit though, they need a title that will go well with ad-ons. You couldn't really have a 'Pacific' add-on to 'Cliffs of Dover'...it's just confusing.

Chuck_Older
03-08-2006, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by russ.nl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by russ.nl:
Thx Bart http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Ooooohhh I can't wait for "Storm of War", as the new IL-2 series apperently is called. Great to hear some news about BoB. You can really see this will be a next generation in game play. Or maybe we will not even dear to call it a game. 1CMaddox really thougt about every espect.



Just a clarification- it seems to me that "Storm of War" is not a new Il-2 series. It seems that the working title of "Battle of Britain:Cliffs of Dover" has been dropped, and that 'Storm of War' and Oleg's BoB are one and the same, unless I am very much in error http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry you mis understood me I think. What I meant to say was that I thought that Storm of War is the name fore the new maddox series. Like Storm of War: BoB Cliffs of Dover, Storm of War: BoB England strikes back (or something), Storm of War: The Low Countries. Something like that.
Then again maybe I don't quit understand. English isn't my native language. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When you put it that way, we think alike

I think that "Cliffs of Dover" is gone though, that name was a working title

I also think we'll find that the Sim will be "Storm of war:Battle of Britain"

Aymar_Mauri
03-08-2006, 09:47 AM
I would think something more appealing like "Steel Birds" or more generic like "WW2 Air War" would be more adequate to a series that spans the whole WW2 conflict in the sky, but what do I know?

Retrofish
03-08-2006, 10:08 AM
I can't believe the WIP terrain pic is not getting more/any comments.

My comment would be: 'Wow, elevated river banks.'

...if I knew what I was talking about, that is.

major_setback
03-08-2006, 10:29 AM
I started a new thread for suggestions for re-naming 'Storm of War'....In 'General Discussion'.

Capt.LoneRanger
03-08-2006, 10:42 AM
Retrofish, that was indeed one of the most thrilling sights. I love to sneak into enemy territory, obliberate a target and sneak out again.

Bad habit, maybe, but I can't deny my heart is still with Janes Longbow2. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

codeseven7
03-08-2006, 11:32 AM
The title, 'Storm of War', probably has very little to do with just the Battle of Britain and everything to do with the series of of new titles it will kick off.