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VF-3Thunderboy
05-25-2005, 06:30 PM
http://yarchive.net/mil/bomber_guns.html

This looks like an interesting link. I wonder if anyone else has these types of links around on WW2 air combat. I found it under "helen bomber"


If interception could be made well in advance (at least an hour's warning), the
P-40s would climb to 26,000 ft. and make a diving head-on pass, aiming at the
cockpit. Nobody ever thought about making this pass upside down, and I don't
think the Allison engine would have appreciated it. Depending on the situation
with the bombers' escort, the P-40s would then keep going and loiter in the
clouds for a chance at the Helens on their way out, or they would zoom climb
back up and chase the bombers. When this plane was first met in combat, the
idea was to try another chance from the rear. Once the defensive firepower
was appreciated, however, the idea would be to plod past the Helens and make
another head-on pass. Thus, the Helen's tactic of making a down hill run to
the target to make the P-40's overtake as long as possible....

k5054
05-26-2005, 05:12 AM
Just who the h WAS cdb100620? He had all sorts of info about US fighter combat, and especially P-40 and P-38 in the SWPA. He hinted he was a pilot but never actually said so, 'cept he also hinted he was a particular guy who turned out to be no longer with us. Ole cdb used to write very well too, I'd like to read any book he'd write on this subject. But then (way back in the 90s on rec.aviation.military) he was challenged about his authenticity, by CC Jordan IIRC, and disappeared. Maybe he was also the fake P-51 pilot (and ace) George Ceullers (sp?) who appeared a little later.

Anyhoe cdb100620 may have been a deceiver, but the stuff he wrote has the air of authority.

VF-3Thunderboy
05-26-2005, 01:04 PM
It makes the sim more realistic, but there is always the "gotta get em syndrome" you get into.This makes campaigns almost the only way to go, to see how many planes you can actually shoot down under certain conditions, and NOT get shot down yourself.