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Mitlov47
06-01-2004, 01:59 PM
I just installed the AEP patch. Could someone help me decipher the practical differences between the various Spits? I don't recall seeing the info in the object viewer. IXc, IXe, HF, LF...it's all Greek to me.

Help? Thanks!

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/387_1082406218_spitfiresigsmall2.jpg

Mitlov47
06-01-2004, 01:59 PM
I just installed the AEP patch. Could someone help me decipher the practical differences between the various Spits? I don't recall seeing the info in the object viewer. IXc, IXe, HF, LF...it's all Greek to me.

Help? Thanks!

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/387_1082406218_spitfiresigsmall2.jpg

JorBR
06-01-2004, 02:15 PM
Bump

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Kamikaze_Gibbon
06-01-2004, 02:23 PM
As I understand the designations LF and HF have reference to the altitudes that they are best at:

LF = Low altitude
HF = High altitude

The letters e and c refer to the wing type:

c wing - 4 x 0.303 machine guns and 2 x 20mm Hispano cannons

e wing - 2 x 0.50 machine guns and 2x20mm Hispano cannons http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I belive these are right but I may have got them confused somewhere along the line.

Hope this helps.

Inadaze
06-01-2004, 02:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EMitton:
I just installed the AEP patch. Could someone help me decipher the practical differences between the various Spits? I don't recall seeing the info in the object viewer. IXc, IXe, HF, LF...it's all Greek to me.

Help? Thanks!

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/387_1082406218_spitfiresigsmall2.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mk9 Type C have 20mm hispanos and 303 brownings
Mk9 Type E have 20mm hispanos and 50cal brownings
Clip Wings (LF)have a faster roll rate and more speed down low.
HF have slightly longer wings and are tuned for altitude, with better performance up high.

There might be engine mk variations and other stuff but I don't know what they are...

S! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif ~ Inadaze

VW-IceFire
06-01-2004, 02:48 PM
The Mark IX LF has a slightly different engine modified for low altitude use and deminished high altitude ability.

C and E refers to the weapons arrangement. Both LF Mark IX's are clipped (which was the most common arrangement) although it has nothing specifically to do with the wing being clipped or not.

Performance wise, aside from the LF's, there is no difference between C and E type armament (doesn't really affect performance).

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NegativeGee
06-01-2004, 03:26 PM
Ammunition capacity for the 20mm Hispanos is slightly increased in the IXe-wing with 140rpg as opposed to 120rpg on the IXc-wing models.

"As weaponry, both were good, but in far different ways from each other. In a nutshell, I describe it this way: if the FW 190 was a sabre, the 109 was a florett, or foil, like that used in the precision art of fencing." - G√ľnther Rall

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Salfordian
06-02-2004, 05:07 AM
For the fighter type designation regarding engine type:

F IX is the original standard Mk IX with Merlin 61 or 63/63A engines which developed max speed at around 28000ft. Originally known as the Mk IXA by pilots

LF IX is fitted with the Merlin 66 engine where 2nd stage of supercharger cuts in at a lower altitude to develop its maximum speed at around 22000ft, (estimated at the time to be the FW190s best altitude). Originally known as Mk IXB by pilots.

HF IX fitted with the Merlin 70 engine which was optimised for best performance at high altitude.

F19_Ob
06-02-2004, 05:41 AM
Hmmm it was a long time since I read about the spits (better work on that).

I seem to remember that "HF" and "LF" just mean "Low flight" and "high flight" and just as mentioned earlier they had peaks at different altidudes.The letters C and E refers to wingtype and armament (mentined earlier), (u can say C-wing or E-wing aswell). The clipped wings was an adaptation to the fw190 menace. Well the spit had always suffered from slow rollrate. If my brain isnt totally messed up I would say that early spits had about half the rollrate of the early bf109's.....and yes that is one of the reasons it was difficult to down a 109 even if the spit turned better. (Almost conmparable with zero against P40 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif ) In many sources it just says that 109 pushed stick forward and dived away....but it actually often outrolled the spit and the fw190 was an even faster roller.............

bye then

[This message was edited by F19_Ob on Wed June 02 2004 at 05:34 AM.]