View Full Version : Luftwaffe kill claims, losses

04-05-2010, 04:01 PM
Is there a good online resource for Luftwaffe kill claims and losses?

For example, I want to find out if any Bf110's were shot down on such and such date in such and such area, how would I go about finding that info?

04-05-2010, 04:26 PM
You should try ww2.dk for German loss lists. Actually, these are not daily losses, rather the losses (and gains) reported by each unit on a monthly basis, but it gives breaks down, ie. enemy/non-enemy related losses, overhaul, received from repairs, new production from factories or transferred from other units.

gives you much of the claims fighter pilots issued, and in some cases if these were later confirmed or not. The list is not complete, but its still say 90% but it seems to me its as close to complete as possible.

04-05-2010, 10:42 PM
Hmm, I tried browsing ww2.dk and I find it handy for determining which units were based where, but I don't speak a word of German.

What heading would I be looking for for those tallies you're talking about?

Thanks for the link, I'll check that out.

04-06-2010, 12:51 AM
I think Kurfurst has given you the two best general links on the subject.

www.ww2.dk (http://www.ww2.dk) is indeed a bit difficult to browse around in, if you want to know which unit was where. But everything else is nice. The tallies can be found at the bottom of each unit page, for instance you click on "air units" on the left side, then "single engined fighter units" on the main page, go to Jagdgeschwader 52 and a new window pops up. At the very bottom of the page you can find Flugzeugbestand und Bewegungsmeldungen, I./JG52 (http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bijg52.html), which is what you want to know.

Datum = Date
Istbestand Monatserster = actual outfit 1st day of month
Anzahl = number
Muster = type
Zugang = additions
Insgesamt = total
Neufertigung = new production
Reparatur = repaired
von andere Verbände = from other units
Abgang = losses
Insgesamt = total
durch Feindeinwirkung = due to enemy action
ohne Feindeinwirkung = without enemy action
Überholung = maintenance
an andere Verbände = to other units
Istbestand Monatsletzter = actual outfit last of month

There are also other sites that give very detailed information, but none of the ones I know gives and as good overview. But, for instance, if you want to look into the operations in Norway, there is an excellent site right here (http://www.rafandluftwaffe.info/). Even more detailed.

04-06-2010, 01:01 AM
Awesome, thanks again to both of you.

Bookmarking this thread for future reference.

04-06-2010, 07:18 PM
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