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Dmitri9mm
02-27-2004, 03:15 AM
Can someone tell me what planes the Finnish Air Force had at the time of the winter war 1939-40? I know pretty much wich ones they DIDN'T have, and that's just about all those that are featured in the game. Just what planes did they actually use at that time?

Dmitri9mm
02-27-2004, 03:15 AM
Can someone tell me what planes the Finnish Air Force had at the time of the winter war 1939-40? I know pretty much wich ones they DIDN'T have, and that's just about all those that are featured in the game. Just what planes did they actually use at that time?

F19_Orheim
02-27-2004, 03:22 AM
FAF Flew:

- Fokker D.XXI
- Bristol Bulldog
- Gloster Gladiator
- Fiat G.50 "Freccia"
- Morane Saulnier 406
- Bristol Blenheim I,III,IV
- Fokker C V E
- Fokker C X
- Blackburn Ripon II F
- Junkers K-43, W-34

I think they also received the B-239 but I am unsure if it saw any action in the Winterwar. I think it arrived from USA via Trollh√¬§ttan, Sweden a little too late.

The Swedish Volunteer Unit F19 flew:

- J8A (Swedish variant of Gloster Gladiator) soon in IL2 FB
- Hawker Hart



PS: Hmm Think they flew captured Soviet planes as well, e.g the Chaikas.
http://216.12.202.106/~f19vs/F19bannerA.jpg http://216.12.202.106/~f19vs/F19banner.jpg

[This message was edited by F19_Orheim on Fri February 27 2004 at 02:39 AM.]

marxist_rebel
02-27-2004, 03:34 AM
http://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/war/faf/brewster.html

good website ^^

Acquisition to Finland
Finland bought 44 Brewster B-239s in 16th, December 1939, but they were received too late to see any combat during the Winter War. Unit price was 54 000 USD plus packing and delivery costs, also 10 spare engines, 20 propellers and other spare parts were purchased for a total sales price of 3.4 million dollars (168 million Finnish Marks). To the purchasers surprise all US Navy "property" were removed at the factory from the Brewsters bought by Finland: guns, sights, instruments and carrier equipment. Initially separately purchased Aldis-optical (binocular) sights were used, but in the spring of 1941 before reflector sights (Finnish V√¬§is√¬§la T.h.m.40 sights which were based on Revi 3c) were installed in the Finnish Brewsters. Metric instruments were installed in Finnish Brewsters.
The Finnish B-239 "export"-models were equipped with refurbished R-1820 G-5 engines taken from DC-3 airliners.

JG77_Tintin
02-27-2004, 03:48 AM
Also include the Caudron-Renault CR 714 Cyclone. Was a very mediocre French lightweight fighter. The French planned to send 77 of them to Finland, the first batch of 20 scheduled to ship from France in February, 1940. Only 6 arrived. I read somewhere that the Finns assembled and tested one, but were so disappointed with it, that they left the remaining five in the crates.

SUPERAEREO
02-27-2004, 04:01 AM
You will find a good link here: http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/faf.html

S!

F19_Orheim
02-27-2004, 04:10 AM
Lol yeah I remember I read a website of those. They weren't that please with the performancehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.sci.fi/~fta/ca-fin-1.htm

http://216.12.202.106/~f19vs/F19bannerA.jpg http://216.12.202.106/~f19vs/F19banner.jpg

F19_Orheim
02-27-2004, 04:16 AM
I really miss the Fokker D.XXI... it was a very important airplane for the Finns during the Winter War. I think it was beeing modelled by a 3rd party, but I haven't heard anything about it for a long long time so I guess the project was dropped. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

The more planes we get from this first comflict, the happier I will be. In the upcoming Add-on we will get the G.50 and the J8A. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://216.12.202.106/~f19vs/F19bannerA.jpg http://216.12.202.106/~f19vs/F19banner.jpg

M0NS
02-27-2004, 04:48 AM
Question is: Will it be possible to fly a 1939-1940 campaign (the first conflict)?

S!

M0NS

"So when Diogenes perceived that he was greatly excited and quite keyed up in mind with expectancy, he toyed with him and pulled him about in the hope that somehow he might be moved from his pride and thirst for glory and be able to sober up a little. For he noticed that at one time he was delighted, and at another grieved at the same thing, and that his soul was as unsettled as the weather at the solstices when both rain and sunshine come from the very same source."

(Dio Chrysostom "Discourse" 4.77-78)

F19_Orheim
02-27-2004, 04:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by M0NS:
Question is: Will it be possible to fly a 1939-1940 campaign (the first conflict)?
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Coming soon to a theatre near you:

http://216.12.202.106/~f19vs/gladchaika.jpg

And we LOVE it!

Wish we had a Northern Finland map though, but I dont think that will ever happen

http://216.12.202.106/~f19vs/F19bannerA.jpg http://216.12.202.106/~f19vs/F19banner.jpg

ptthome
02-27-2004, 08:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Wish we had a Northern Finland map though, but I dont think that will ever happen
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought all Finland was North?

http://perso.club-internet.fr/ptthome/vulogo3.JPG

Jippo01
02-27-2004, 08:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ptthome:

I thought all Finland was North?
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No, 1/3 of it is down south. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


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