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Ba5tard5word
02-22-2008, 05:24 PM
I've been having fun with the FMB and have been making some North Africa-style missions in the desert, and so on. But I realized that, though I'm pretty knowledgable about WW2 aircraft warfare, I don't really know what planes would have been used by the different nations fighting in North Africa.

How bout the Brits? I'm guessing the Hurricane was used, how about Spitfires?

The Germans--did they use much besides 109's?

The Italians and Americans, what planes did they use?

Anyway thanks for any info.

VW-IceFire
02-22-2008, 05:29 PM
Depends on the year of course. Early on the Hurricane and Tomahawk II were pretty extensively used by the RAF. Later the RAF received Warhawks (P-40E and onwards) from the Americans and in 1942 the Spitfire V began to arrive (in game this is the Vc with large tropical filter in both 2 cannon and 4 cannon form). As far as bombers go...earlier on its the Blenheim IV followed by quite a few variations of the Boston and Mitchell bombers.

For the Axis I don't know as much but the 109E was used for quite a while before the 109F began to arrive. Stukas used quite a bit as well. Some 110s. The FW190 was a very rare sight in North Africa.

For the Americans the P-40, a few P-39s, and later the P-38 seemed to be the most popular types. Some American squadrons had reverse lend lease Spitfires as well.

For the Italians this was their primary theater so everything was brought to bear. The MC.202 I think was the most common type with fair numbers of the MC.200 and other types that we don't have in game.

berg417448
02-22-2008, 05:35 PM
And if you want to do Operation Torch you can add F4F, TBF, and SBD for the USN forces.

KG66_Gog
02-22-2008, 06:53 PM
Icefire is on the money. You won't see Spitfires in North Africa until the situation at Malta has stabilised. Every available Spit went straight to the island.

Luftwaffe had (up to mid 42), 109 E, F2 and F4. Bf110 E and D, Stukas as mentioned. If you are going to include Spitfires in a North African campaign then you should have 109G2's as they arrived at similar times.

Ba5tard5word
02-22-2008, 07:25 PM
alright thanks y'all, that helps a lot

Daiichidoku
02-22-2008, 07:49 PM
id like to know where your sig is from, ba5tard

sgt.dumpster
02-22-2008, 08:27 PM
Germanwise, mostly bf109 "f2" series -Almost as many as they were being sent to the East!-Allied; being mostly P40 warhawks as a "lend-lease act", from America to the British as their country's proud markings lay burning scattered in every direction due to what Gunther Rall stated as the best variant of the 109 proven at the time!!!!-astrogoth

jarink
02-22-2008, 08:30 PM
Also for the USAAF - A-20s, B-25s, B-17Fs and B-24Ds. Shame we don't have a B-24D in addition the the B-24J.

sgt.dumpster
02-22-2008, 08:34 PM
The bf109 f was certinly a '-wake up call'- to all the opposing country's confidence's-astrogoth

Ba5tard5word
02-22-2008, 09:11 PM
BTW does Il-2 1946 have much North Africa stuff, or at least some desert maps you can pretend are North Africa? I have the "Complete Edition" and it only has one small desert map, though I just ordered 1946.


the sig is a pic from the movie Porco Rosso, great movie if you like good anime, Hayao Miyazaki, and/or 1930's seaplanes.

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/protectedimage.php?image=NoelMegahey/porcorosso1.jpg

luftluuver
02-22-2008, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
The FW190 was a very rare sight in North Africa.
EKdo 19. III./ZG2, II./JG2 and III./SKG10 all flew 190s from Nov 1942 to May 1943.

VW-IceFire
02-23-2008, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by luftluuver:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
The FW190 was a very rare sight in North Africa.
EKdo 19. III./ZG2, II./JG2 and III./SKG10 all flew 190s from Nov 1942 to May 1943. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Still...compared to the Western Front or the Eastern Front this is far fewer. Was II./JG2 there for a long time? I thought it was a matter of a few months and then they were back to France?

cpt-rusty
02-23-2008, 07:46 AM
and there was also a slight apperence of the hs-129 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif, though their engines lasted for a bout a week against the sand http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif, then they simply did'nt want to start anymore and were taken off the area http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

AKA_TAGERT
02-23-2008, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
The Italians and Americans, what planes did they use?
P-38s

http://home.att.net/~C.C.Jordan/P-38MTO.html (http://home.att.net/%7EC.C.Jordan/P-38MTO.html)

A handful of which turned the tide on waves of 109s

luftluuver
02-23-2008, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Still...compared to the Western Front or the Eastern Front this is far fewer. Was II./JG2 there for a long time? I thought it was a matter of a few months and then they were back to France?
How many 109 units in NA?

I have: Stab/JG53, I./JG53, II./JG53, Stab./JG77, I./JG77, II./JG77, III./JG77, I./Sch.G.2, 4.(H)/12 and 2.(H)14

I see a ratio of 1 Fw unit for 3 Me units (disregarding the Stabs and recons)

Do you have the units for the EF?

II./JG2 left NA when the Germans did.

thefruitbat
02-23-2008, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
The Italians and Americans, what planes did they use?
P-38s

http://home.att.net/~C.C.Jordan/P-38MTO.html (http://home.att.net/%7EC.C.Jordan/P-38MTO.html)

A handful of which turned the tide on waves of 109s </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didn't realise that the p38 won the air war in the desert. I thought a considerable amount was done before the 10th nov '42 when they started there ferry flights to the MTO.

The Germans were already on the retreat, and had already lost the battle of El Alamin, before one p38 was in theater, And the Africa corps was no longer the force it was, and it did not have the capabilities both in the air and on the ground that it had once enjoyed.

I don't dissagree that the p38 was not a good plane, and did not contribute to the final victory in africa, but to say that a "handful of p38's turned the tide on waves of 109's" is demeaning to a hell of lot of people who had already done most of the hard work.

fruitbat

KG66_Gog
02-23-2008, 05:11 PM
And lets not forget the Halifax's of 462SQN RAAF, operating in North Africa from September 1942.

Only wish they were in the game!!!

Skycat_2
02-23-2008, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
BTW does Il-2 1946 have much North Africa stuff, or at least some desert maps you can pretend are North Africa? I have the "Complete Edition" and it only has one small desert map, though I just ordered 1946.

There isn't really very much new for that theater in 1946. You already have the OnlineMT desert map which originally came as a bonus in one of the Ace Expansion Pack upgrade patches; a very similar map (Desert Online) was offered in the 4.08m upgrade patch for 1946. A third map, a 'user-made' MTO map--also similar in layout as the OnlineMT map--is included in the 4.09m beta patch.

The desert map is, as far as I know, completely generic while the MTO map suggests actual land masses without being either specific or topographically accurate.

Xiolablu3
02-24-2008, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by sgt.dumpster:
The bf109 f was certinly a '-wake up call'- to all the opposing country's confidence's-astrogoth

Not really - it was the FW190 which was the problem, not the Bf109F.

The RAF and Germans felt that the MkV SPitfire and Bf109F were a good match, with each having small gains on the other.

For example the Spitfire having a bit better turn, and the 109 having slightly higher top speed. The Spitfire having heavier armament, better visiblity and cockpit, the Bf109 having better dive speed. etc etc.

The FW190 outclassed the early SPitfire V's in everything except its turn rate.

Bremspropeller
02-24-2008, 04:27 PM
I guess he means the desert Vb with the Vokes filter.
That Vb/trop surely lagged behind a F-4/trop any day.

W/O the Vokes, the Spit Vb was more than a match for the Friedrich.


The 38 was called "Gabelschwanzteufel" by the ground-troops, not by the Luftwaffe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

M_Gunz
02-24-2008, 05:11 PM
From Wiki on the P-40... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_P-40)


P-40s first saw combat with the British Commonwealth squadrons of the Desert Air Force in the Middle East and North African campaigns, during June 1941.[2] [3] The Royal Air Force's No. 112 Squadron was among the first to operate Tomahawks, and the unit copied the "shark mouth" nose markings used by a Luftwaffe Bf 110 unit.[4] The logo was more famously used on P-40s by the Flying Tigers in China.[5]P-40s flown by 112 Squadron, RAF in North Africa, were the first to feature the "shark mouth" logo,[4] which was later used on P-40s around the world.

These are US P-40's;

The 33rd, 57th, 79th, 324th and 325th FGs operated the P-40 in the MTO.[36]


Royal Australian Air Force
A P-40E-1 piloted by the ace Keith "Bluey" Truscott, commander of No. 76 Squadron RAAF, taxis along Marsden Matting at Milne Bay, New Guinea in September 1942.
A P-40E-1 piloted by the ace Keith "Bluey" Truscott, commander of No. 76 Squadron RAAF, taxis along Marsden Matting at Milne Bay, New Guinea in September 1942.

The Kittyhawk was the main fighter used by the RAAF in World War II, in greater numbers than the Spitfire. Two RAAF squadrons serving with the Desert Air Force, No. 3 and No. 450 Squadrons, were the first Australian units to be assigned P-40s. Other RAAF pilots served with RAF or SAAF P-40 squadrons in the theater.

Many RAAF pilots achieved high scores in the P-40. At least five reached "double ace" status: Clive Caldwell (22 kills), Nicky Barr, John Waddy, Bob Whittle (11 kills each) and Bobby Gibbes (ten kills) in the Middle East, North African and/or New Guinea campaigns. In all, 18 RAAF pilots became aces while flying P-40s.[30]

PraetorHonoris
02-24-2008, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
A handful of which turned the tide on waves of 109s

Yeah, the handful of 450 Lightning (including 34 F-4/F-5) were really badly outnumbered by waves of the 191 Bf-109 (including 13 recce and 21 bombers) in March 1943.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/aafsd/aafsd_pdf/t090.pdf
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/flugbew.htm

DIRTY-MAC
02-24-2008, 07:11 PM
dont forget the French fighters and bombers

julian265
02-24-2008, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Bremspropeller:
I guess he means the desert Vb with the Vokes filter.
That Vb/trop surely lagged behind a F-4/trop any day.

W/O the Vokes, the Spit Vb was more than a match for the Friedrich. It's a pity that the vokes FM was applied to the standard Vb's...

luftluuver
02-25-2008, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by PraetorHonoris:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
A handful of which turned the tide on waves of 109s

Yeah, the handful of 450 Lightning (including 34 F-4/F-5) were really badly outnumbered by waves of the 191 Bf-109 (including 13 recce and 21 bombers) in March 1943.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/aafsd/aafsd_pdf/t090.pdf
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/flugbew.htm </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is an large number of a/c for 3 FGs (1st, 14th, and 82nd FGs).

150 a/c per FG, 50 a/c per FS http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Patriot_Act
02-25-2008, 12:41 AM
Add to the list

Grumman F4F-4s
Curtiss P-36A (French export version)

Almost any aircraft that flew in WWII over Europe
saw action in North Africa depending on the date.

P.A.

major_setback
02-25-2008, 02:41 AM
Spring 1942 : Spit V's (some adapted for high altitude interception) downed on several occasions Ju 86Ps flying from Crete on photo-recon missions over Egypt. Interception took place at +40,000ft.


The interceptions put a stop to these high level photo missions. In order to make it easier to reach the high altitude Ju86s all excess weight was removed from a number of Spitfires, including installing a special smaller fuel tanks of less weight. Armament was also cut to .50 machine guns (cannons were replaced with these).

A system was devised for interception of the recon aircraft. Interception consisted of attack by two aircraft, a 'marker' aircraft, and a 'striker'. The marker would be equiped with a radio, by which it was guided by a ground controller to the Ju86, the higher flying striker would see where the marker led him (he was not equiped with radio, to save weight) and attack; if the target came lower it would also be engaged by the marker.
Paraphrased from: Osprey - Spitfire mk V aces 1941-45.

Vanderstok
02-25-2008, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Skycat_2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
BTW does Il-2 1946 have much North Africa stuff, or at least some desert maps you can pretend are North Africa? I have the "Complete Edition" and it only has one small desert map, though I just ordered 1946.

There isn't really very much new for that theater in 1946. You already have the OnlineMT desert map which originally came as a bonus in one of the Ace Expansion Pack upgrade patches; a very similar map (Desert Online) was offered in the 4.08m upgrade patch for 1946. A third map, a 'user-made' MTO map--also similar in layout as the OnlineMT map--is included in the 4.09m beta patch.

The desert map is, as far as I know, completely generic while the MTO map suggests actual land masses without being either specific or topographically accurate. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I would say yes, 1946 does support more MTO scenarios. The desert map is indeed a generic "dogfight" map. There is the large MTO map which isn't geographically correct but is very interesting for mission building.
It depicts the area around Tobruk, so early wartime scenarios from 1940-1942 can be done here. There is also Crete, which is probably too small, but it is positioned more or less in the correct direction from Tobruk. Then we also have Malta on this map, but I don't think it's very useful. It doesn't look good and it should be anywhere near the Tobruk area. Both these map feature much more realistic ground textures than the "sands of time" which look more like an Arab desert.
So if you don't mind the not-100%-correct geography you can have lots of fun on this map.
Oh, and don't forget all the extra ground objects (like soldiers and crew) from the latest patch!

BGs_Ricky
02-25-2008, 07:52 AM
Early on, the RAF also used Gladiators.
Beaufighters were also present from late '41 with 252 and 272 Squadrons.

M_Gunz
02-25-2008, 11:16 AM
Yes, the early days on N. Africa and Mideast when IIUC there were mostly biplanes!

BGs_Ricky
02-25-2008, 11:25 AM
And of course quite a lot of Cr.42s were used by the italians.

Friendly_flyer
02-25-2008, 03:32 PM
Where Buffalos used in Africa?

JSG72
02-25-2008, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
Where Buffalos used in Africa?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Try a search "Buffalos used in Africa".

Meooha!!

Blutarski2004
02-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
I've been having fun with the FMB and have been making some North Africa-style missions in the desert, and so on. But I realized that, though I'm pretty knowledgable about WW2 aircraft warfare, I don't really know what planes would have been used by the different nations fighting in North Africa.

How bout the Brits? I'm guessing the Hurricane was used, how about Spitfires?

The Germans--did they use much besides 109's?

The Italians and Americans, what planes did they use?

Anyway thanks for any info.


..... Fighter aircraft used in the Western Desert in order of their introduction into action in theater:

Fiat CR32
Gloster Gladiator I
Fiat CR42
Gloster Gladiator II
Bristol Blenheim 1F
Hawker Hurricane I
Fiat G50bis
ME110C
ME109E7
Hawker Hurricane IIA
Macchi MC200
Curtis Tomahawk IIA
Curtis Tomahawk IIB
Grumman Martlet
Fairey Fulmar
Bristol Beaufighter I
ME109F2-Trop
Macchi MC202
Curtis Kittyhawk IA
Hawker Hurrican IIC
JU88C-6
ME109F4-Trop
Spitfire V
Curtis P40F Warhawk
Curtis Kittyhawk III
Hawker Hurrican IID
ME109G1-Trop

- - -

ALLIED & COMMONWEALTH AIR FORCES ORDER OF BATTLE - October 1942


>>>>> FIGHTERS <<<<<


221 GROUP

6, 7 SAAF sqdns - Hurricane IID's

233 Wing
2 SAAF, 4 SAAF, 260 sqdns - Kittyhawks
5 SAAF sqdn - Tomahawks

239 Wing
3 RAAF, 112, 250, 450 sqdns - Kittyhawks

244 Wing
92, 145, 601 sqdns - Spitfire 5's
73 sqdn - Hurricane IIC's

57th FG USAAF
64, 65, 66 sqdns - P40F Warhawks


212 GROUP

7 SAAF Wing
80, 127, 335 sqdns - Hurricane IIB's
274 sqdn - Hurricane IIC's

243 Wing
1 SAAF, 33, 213, 238 sqdns - Hurricane IIC's



>>>>> TACTICAL RECONNAISSANCE <<<<<


285 Wing
40 SAAF, 208 sqdns - Hurricnae IIB's
60 SAAF sqdn - Baltimores



>>>>> BOMBERS <<<<<


3 SAAF Wing
12 SAAF, 24 SAAF sqdns - Bostons
21 SAAF sqdn - Baltimores

232 Wing
55, 223 sqdns - Baltimores

12th Bomb Group
81, 82, 83, 434 sqdns - B25 Mitchells

Heavy Bombers of 205 Group and USAAF - B24 Liberators, Wellingtons

Various units of 201, 203, 207, 216 Groups



>>>>> AHQ EGYPT <<<<<


234 Wing
889 sqdn FAA - Fulmars & Hurricane IIC's

250 Wing
89 sqdn - Beaufighters
94 sqdn - Hurricane IIB's & Spitfires

252 Wing
46 sqdn - Beaufighters
417 sqdn - Hurricane IIB's & Spitfires


- - - - -


LUFTWAFFE ORDER OF BATTLE - October 1942



>>>>> FIGHTERS <<<<<


Stab/JG27 - Bf109F&G's
I/JG27 - Bf109F&G's
II/JG27 - Bf109F&G's
III/JG27 - Bf109F&G's

Jagdkommando Creta (Kastelli) - Bf109F&G's
Jagdkommando Berca - Bf109F&G's
Jagdkommando Tobruk - Bf109F&G's

III/JG53 - Bf109F&G's
(left Africa 27 Oct 42)

1/JG77 - Bf109F&G's
(on transfer to Africa)

III/ZG26 - Bf110C's
(7 and 9 Staffeln @ Kastelli; 8 Staffel @ Derna)

10/ZG26 Kastelli - JU88's



>>>>> FIGHTER-BOMBERS <<<<<


I/SG2 - Bf109E's



>>>>> TACTICAL RECONNAISSANCE <<<<<


4(H)/12 - Bf109E&F's



>>>>> LONG-RANGE RECONNAISSANCE <<<<<


1(F)/121 - JU88's

2(F)/123 - JU88's



>>>>> BOMBERS <<<<<


Korpskette X. Fl, K (Kastelli) - He111s, Fi156s

Stab LG1 (Heraklion) - Ju88's
I/LG1 (Heraklion) - Ju88's
II/LG1 (Heraklion) - Ju88's

III/KG77 - Ju88's (on transfer to Africa)



>>>>> DIVE-BOMBERS <<<<<


Stab StG3 - Ju87's
I/StG3 - Ju87's
III/StG3 - Ju87's



>>>>> SEAPLANES <<<<<


2/125 (Suda Bay) - Ar196's


- - -


REGIA AERONAUTICA ORDER OF BATTLE - October 1942



>>>>> FIGHTERS <<<<<


2 Stormo CT
8, 13 Gruppa - MC200's

3 Stormo CT
18, 23 Gruppa - MC202's

4 Stormo CT
9, 10 Gruppa - MC202's

150 Gruppa Autonoma CT - MC202's

160 Gruppa Autonoma CT - CR42's

15 Stormo Assalto
46, 47 Gruppa - CR42's

30 Stormo Assalta
158, 159 Gruppa - CR42's



>>>>> BOMBERS <<<<<


5 Stormo Tuffatori
101 Gruppo - Ju87B's

35 Stormo BT
86, 95 Gruppa - Z.1007's

131 Gruppo Autonomo Aerosiluranti - SM79's

133 Gruppo Autonomo Aerosiluranti - SM79's



Hope this is useful.

berg417448
02-25-2008, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
Where Buffalos used in Africa?

The Fleet Air Arm had some at Crete.

KG66_Gog
02-25-2008, 09:56 PM
Some holes in your research there Blutarski, shame on you! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

On 6 Sep 1942, Numbers 10 and 76 SQN detachments were combined to form 462SQN RAAF and operated out of Fayid in Egypt.

Aircraft were Halifax IIs.

Not too many people are aware of the squadrons presence there so I forgive you...this once. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Beaufort-RAF
02-26-2008, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
Where Buffalos used in Africa?

By March 1941 Buffaloes were serving with 805 squadron based at Dekheila, HMS Eagle and Maleme. The aircraft saw limited action with the Fleet Air Arm.

Of the 27 Buffalo with the FAA only one is known to have been shot down- Aircraft AX813 failed to return from a patrol, after being shot down North West of Sidi Barrani on 17 June 1941 (Lt KL Keith taken POW, died of wounds 26 June 1941).

Blutarski2004
02-26-2008, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by KG66_Gog:
Some holes in your research there Blutarski, shame on you! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

On 6 Sep 1942, Numbers 10 and 76 SQN detachments were combined to form 462SQN RAAF and operated out of Fayid in Egypt.

Aircraft were Halifax IIs.

Not too many people are aware of the squadrons presence there so I forgive you...this once. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



..... I'm so ashamed.

;-]

JG53Frankyboy
02-26-2008, 08:19 AM
sure not perfect http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


LW:

German appearance:
X. Fliegerkorps December 1940 at Sicily, combat ready January 1941
with
Ju88A-4
He111H torpedo
Ju87B/R



Bf109E-7
February 1941; 7./JG 26, Sicily for Malta operations
18.April 1941; I./JG 27, NA

Bf109F-4
October 1941; II./JG 27, NA

Bf109G-2
September 1942; I./JG 27, NA

Bf109G-6
February 1943; II./JG 51 & II./JG 77, NA

Fw190A-4
mid November 1942; II./JG 2 , Tunesia (left NA mid March 1943)

Fw190A-4 Jabo (-/U3)
November 1942; III/ZG 2 (became III/SKG 10 in december 15 of 1942)

Bf110D/E
December 1940; III./ZG 26 , Sicily for Malta operations
February 1941; 7./ZG 26, NA

Bf110F
Mai 1942; III./ZG 26

Bf110G
February 1943; III./ZG 26

Me210A
November 1942; III./ZG 1, Sicily

Ju88C-2/-4 (no radar !)
December 1941; I./NJG 2, Sicily

Hs129
November 1942; 4.(Pz)/SchlG 2, NA


RA:

G.50
End of December 1940; 2? Gruppo, NA

Mc.200
June 1940 already in service at Sicily with 6? Gruppo
19. April 1941; 374.sqn/153? Gruppo , at Tripolis
12.July 1941; whole 153? Gruppo at Derna/Libya

Mc.202
September 1941; 9? Gruppo, Sicily for Malta operations
November 1941; 9? Gruppo, NA

Mc.202 Trop
December 1941; 1? Stormo, NA

Mc.205
April 1943; 1? Stormo, Pantelleria

Ju87B/R in italian service
September 1940, 96? Gruppo BaT, Sicily for Malta operations
February 1941; 96? Gruppo BaT, NA



RAF:

Hurricane Mk.I
August 1940; 274. Sqn, NA
August 1940; 261. Sqn, Malta ( few planes before from 21.June on)

Hurricane Mk.IIb/c

Hurricane Mk.IId
Summer 1942, 6. Sqn, NA

Hurricane Mk.IV
July 1943, 6. Sqn, NA

Tomahawk
June 1941; 250. Sqn, DAF (formed in April 1941 in Palestine)

Kittyhawk
December 1941; 3. Sqn, DAF

Spitfire Vb
March 1942; 249. Sqn, Malta

Spitfire Vc
April 1942; 249. Sqn, Malta
June 1942; 145. Sqn, Gambut/Libya

Spitfire F.Mk.IXc
January 1943; 81. Sqn, Algeria
February 1943; 72. Sqn, Tunesia

Spitfire F.Mk.VIII
June 1943; 145. Sqn, Malta

Mustang Mk.I
225. Sqn (AC/Recon)

Martlet Mk.III
July 1941, No 805 Sqn FAA , with DAF (till February 1942)

Beaufighter Mk.I
May 1941; 252. Sqn detachment, Malta

Mosquito NF.II (flew intruder missons, no radar)
December 1942; 23. Sqn, Malta

Mosquito FB.VI
Mai 1943; 23. Sqn, Malta

Mosquito NF.XII (radar)
July 1943; 256. Sqn detachment, Malta

Boston Mk.III
"About Boston's, according to Squadron-Signal n.56, they reached NA in November 1941 with 24 Sqn SAAF but not at full strength, and sufferd heavy losses.
Then, after re-organization, 24 Sqn came back to fight on the 22th of February 1942, followed by 12 Sqn SAAF in March."

Baltimore



FAA at Malta convoys in 1941& 42
Martlet Mk.II (R-1830, 6 guns, folding wings)
SeaHurricane Mk.IB
Fulmar Mk.II

FAA at Torch (November 1942)
Seafire IIc
Martlet Mk.IV (similar to F4F-4, but with R-1820 engine)
SeaHurricane Mk.IIB/C

FAA at Husky (July 43)
Seafire L.IIc (4 blade propeller)
Martlet Mk.IV



USAAF:

P-38F
November 1942; 14th FG, Algeria

P-400/P-39D
January 1943; 81st & 350th FG, Algeria

P-40F
August 1942, 57th FG , with DAF

P-51/F-6A
March/April 1943; 154th Observation Squadron; French Morocco

A-36A
June 1943; 27th and 86th Fighter Bomber Groups, NA

P-47D
December 1943; 325th FG , Foggia/Italy

P-51B
April 1944; 31st FG , Italy

Aaron_GT
02-26-2008, 09:34 AM
As far as bombers go...earlier on its the Blenheim IV followed by quite a few variations of the Boston and Mitchell bombers.

Also Baltimore and Maryland, some Wellingtons, Wellesleys and the occasional Bristol Bombay. Also a few Lysanders for army coop, Gladiators, and I think also very early on there might have been half a dozen earlier biplanes, including the Gauntlet (much like a Gladiator with two guns and an open cockpit).

KG66_Gog
02-26-2008, 05:13 PM
I don't know why I bother but just in case anyone was thinking that the above posts are accurate.....

http://users.tpg.com.au/narsil//462SQN+Africa

and

http://users.tpg.com.au/narsil//462SQN+crew+africa

In 1942, 462SQN's Halifax's bombed the harbour facilities in Tobruk as well as targets in Sollum, Halfaya, El Alamein, attacked several targets in Crete including Suda Bay and Maleme airstrip.

The attacks in and around El Alamein are particularly interesting as the aircraft were bought in low enough so that the gunners could strafe German vehicle columns, thats something you don't see too many four engined bombers doing.
1943 saw the Squadron continue attacking targets in North Africa but it also struck as far as Sicily, one of these raids seeing one Halifax flown by the Squadron CO, WNGCDR Warner lost to a German night-fighter.
The Squadron soon after disbanded and relocated to England where it joined Bomber Command on Day and night raids over German occupied territory. In January 1945, it joined 100 Group and conducted Special operations in the form of Window, Spoof and other deception activities against the German Nightfighter system. The squadron disbanded again in late 1945.