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WilhelmSchulz.-
09-23-2005, 01:06 PM
What where thoes poles for on the WWI U-Boats??? (Im a WW2 Cold War Guy)

Kaleun1961
09-23-2005, 01:24 PM
What poles are you referring to? Do you have a picture you can post to show us?

Without seeing what you are referring to, I'm thinking maybe they are braces or supports?

bunkerratt
09-23-2005, 01:31 PM
what ya talking about?..i have an extensive collection of books ..ranging from 1800-present day.all naval history..poles?...

WilhelmSchulz.-
09-23-2005, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
What poles are you referring to? Do you have a picture you can post to show us?

Without seeing what you are referring to, I'm thinking maybe they are braces or supports? Shure.
WWI Sub pic (http://uboat.net/wwi/types/index.html?type=U+139)

Excalibur688
09-23-2005, 02:06 PM
http://uboat.net/history/images/wwi_pic14.jpg

He means these I believe.....=)

WilhelmSchulz.-
09-23-2005, 02:07 PM
JA! Danke.

Kaleun1961
09-23-2005, 02:18 PM
I think they may be for rigging the antenna for the "wireless," the radio.

U107Wolff
09-23-2005, 04:58 PM
Looks indeed a lot like the so-called "dipool" antenna we used to have in the army.

W.Irving
09-23-2005, 05:04 PM
Shouldn't a dipole look like a T?

Two wires running along the boat, and two wires leading from the front mast to the tower.

Perhaps two separate antennas? For two different sets? Or a dipole, but with the intersection in the front mast. Thought they had to look like T's.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Baldricks_Mate
09-23-2005, 05:42 PM
I think the photo may be less a photo and more of a line drawing from or to a photo with the aerials added as poetic licence by the artist.. However:

The could be a folded dipole, two feed wires up, 2 elements, (fold the arms of the T together so they are parallel)

Or two seperate long wire aerials, one for transmitting, one for receiving; AM frequency, longwave, sideband.

panthercules
09-23-2005, 06:58 PM
I think they were the masts for rigging the sails, for returning home under wind power when BdU sent them out to patrol some zone halfway around the world without enough fuel and no milch cows for resupply http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WilhelmSchulz.-
09-23-2005, 09:48 PM
Ok there the Radio atenas.

Kaleun1961
09-23-2005, 10:12 PM
Did they even have a BDU type of HQ in WW1? If I remember correctly, Donitz thought the lack of centralized command in WW1 prevented the U-boats from effectively forming wolf packs.

WilhelmSchulz.-
09-23-2005, 10:18 PM
Wasn't Donitz a U-Boat comander in WWI???

Kaleun1961
09-23-2005, 10:25 PM
Yes. He was captured in the Med while attacking a British convoy. His boat went oout of control and he surfaced unintentionally in the middle of the convoy. He was immediately captured, and spent the rest of the war in a P.O.W. camp, thinking up ways to fight the next war, if and when it happened.

Flydutch
09-25-2005, 11:41 AM
Radio Mast and cables also functioned to deflect Mine Cables over the U-Boat hoping the would not snag and pull the mine in!

this Is Also the Case for WWII Boat Antenna Cabbles.

Seepferd
09-25-2005, 12:41 PM
Since space was limited on most U-boats they had to do the laundry outside, so what you see here the the clothes line erected before or after taking the laundry down. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Nick_Toznost
09-25-2005, 12:46 PM
Slightly O.T. I guess, but has any software company ever made, or considered making a WW1 sub sim?. Is it worth playing one?, Ie are they really poorly armed, slow etc.

Personally I'd be really interested. WW1 naval battles were pretty intense.

WilhelmSchulz.-
09-25-2005, 02:17 PM
Porly armed, slow??? Wo wo wo wo. Most of the ocean cruisers had 2 repeat 2 105mm Guns and could make a modest 18kts.

Nick_Toznost
09-25-2005, 02:38 PM
Exactly Wilhelm. I don't know, WW1 sub battles are not my best field of knowledge. If they are worth playing in a simulation then bring it on. Maybe they should rethink the scenario for SHIV.

Kaleun1961
09-25-2005, 03:54 PM
If they do, we will see some very pretty sailing vessels. The German WW1 U-boat campaign cleared the seas of those lovely and graceful schooners, ending the days of sail earlier than would have happened in peace time. Likwise, we should see Q-ships, biplanes, dreadnoughts and zeppelins.

W.Irving
09-25-2005, 04:00 PM
It would've been an interesting simulator. If on par with SHIII in regards to depth (http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif), I'd deffo buy it.

I guess they were very spartan. And unreliable.
No target data computer. Speeds of 16/9 kts. 6 torpedoes and 300 rounds of 105mm ammunition. 50m max depth. Lovely. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If someone was to make a WWI U-boat sim, the issue of reliability MUST be thought through. In SHIII, all the equipment seems to be working perfectly fine without breaking down. A utopia.

WilhelmSchulz.-
09-25-2005, 05:14 PM
Here here!!!
But Pac Flt. first then WWI U-Boats.