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CyberWings
02-24-2006, 05:09 PM
First I want to thanks Bearcat99 and everyone that contribute in this post: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/7211046783
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
It was the inspiration that I need to destroy and old joystick and then build a trim system with some of the parts.
To tell you the true I wasn€t sure if it was going to work (that€s why I didn€t destroy my X-45, yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) but to my surprise It works perfectly fine. Trimming and aircraft has never been easier. I have to tell you I really enjoy building something new to use it in this simulator. I think we need a Hardware modification forum to share ideas, blueprints, etc.

This was the joystick, an old Quickshoot with 3 axes and 2 buttons
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/01.jpg

Crossing the point of no return!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/02.jpg

I had to buy a few components: new buttons and these (don´t know the name in English)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/potenciometro.gif

A little weld to join the cables
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/03.jpg

And finally a Trim system (I think now It€s time for my X-45... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/04.jpg

Again thanks to everyone and please post more hardware modification threats.
Anyone has blueprints of how to build a sim cockpit?

DaimonSyrius
02-24-2006, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by CyberWings:
but to my surprise It works perfectly fine. Trimming and aircraft has never been easier. I have to tell you I really enjoy building something new to use it in this simulator. I think we need a Hardware modification forum to share ideas, blueprints, etc.
.../...
Great job, well done! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
A hardware modification forum is an excellent idea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Crossing the point of no return!
Hehhe
Con dos pares, s* seor! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
(potenciometro.gif gave me a clue here) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
(BTW, it's 'potentiometer', or just 'pot' in short http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

Cheers,
S.

BaldieJr
02-24-2006, 05:26 PM
in english those are called potentiometers. Poe-ten-she-AHHH-meter.

DaimonSyrius
02-24-2006, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by CyberWings:
please post more hardware modification threats.

Hahha that's excellent too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
You're spot on! (has dado en el clavo!) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
threat (http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/threat.html)/thread (http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/thread.html)

Ahora en serio, cojonudo... y admirable http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Bearcat99
02-24-2006, 05:39 PM
Way to go... I actually finished my X-45 mod... but my computer doesnt see it so until it works I wont post it.

Taylortony
02-24-2006, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by BaldieJr:
in english those are called potentiometers. Poe-ten-she-AHHH-meter.


Or in Queens English Poe-ten-she-OOOOH-meter Old Chap

DaimonSyrius
02-24-2006, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Taylortony:
Or in Queens English Poe-ten-she-OOOOH-meter Old Chap
English being only my <STRIKE>third</STRIKE> fourth language, I can take the liberty of calling that 'proper English' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
No need for me to be P.C. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Cheers,
S.

*Edit*fourth rather than third, actually.

horseback
02-24-2006, 05:55 PM
'Variable resistor'.

cheers

horseback

Jetbuff
02-24-2006, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Taylortony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaldieJr:
in english those are called potentiometers. Poe-ten-she-AHHH-meter.
Or in Queens English Poe-ten-she-OOOOH-meter Old Chap </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't pick on Baldie, he barely finished the 4th grade... and he took the short bus to school... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

T_O_A_D
02-24-2006, 08:08 PM
Nice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif the room idea is a good one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

DIRTY-MAC
02-24-2006, 08:11 PM
WTF!
crazy.
but I like it!
nice work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BaldieJr
02-24-2006, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Jetbuff:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaldieJr:
in english those are called potentiometers. Poe-ten-she-AHHH-meter.
Or in Queens English Poe-ten-she-OOOOH-meter Old Chap </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't pick on Baldie, he barely finished the 4th grade... and he took the short bus to school... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i was so good at 4th grade they they invited me back.

someone say potentiometer in queens english and record it as mp3. i gotta hear it. round here its ah, as in ha only backward.

Haigotron
02-25-2006, 12:06 AM
Wow, i really need to build one of those!

Did you follow any specific instructions? or did u make it yourself?
If so, can you guide us through the general steps? ( i have barely any electrical experience, besides calculating total resistance theory - from school and plugging in a toaster oven!)

thanks alot

rnzoli
02-25-2006, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by CyberWings:
I have to tell you I really enjoy building something new to use it in this simulator. I think we need a Hardware modification forum to share ideas, blueprints, etc.

Again thanks to everyone and please post more hardware modification threats.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Good job! And it is more fun to fly your own stuff, than the sterile factory stuff http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I am also working on something, but similarly to you, I wouldn't post anything until it works, looks decent, and has been thoroughly tested. But I can promise one more thread for sure, because I made a throttle/trim from a garbage-bound Logitech stick... and some more.

Feathered_IV
02-25-2006, 01:31 AM
someone say potentiometer in queens english and record it as mp3. i gotta hear it. round here its ah, as in ha only backward.


Its "om" as in Cromwell (not Crahmwell) or like bomb (not Bahmb) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Jetbuff
02-25-2006, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by BaldieJr:
i was so good at 4th grade they they invited me back.
Must be your magnetic personality. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

someone say potentiometer in queens english and record it as mp3. i gotta hear it. round here its ah, as in ha only backward.
Your wish is my command: http://filethatfile.com/uploads/185queensenglish.wav http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Jetbuff
02-25-2006, 03:27 AM
Back on topic though. Nifty looking mod Cyberwings, perhaps a short tutorial would help the dexterilly challenged like myself?

CyberWings
02-25-2006, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
Wow, i really need to build one of those!

Did you follow any specific instructions? or did u make it yourself?
If so, can you guide us through the general steps? ( i have barely any electrical experience, besides calculating total resistance theory - from school and plugging in a toaster oven!)

thanks alot

No I didn€t follow any instructions except for the advices from de X-45 modification post (link in my first post of this thread)
I€ll try to guide you through the general steps. The most important thing is not to rush yourself to finish, It's also very important to have the proper tolls and as much information as you can about the components and how they work.
I don€t consider myself to have a lot of electrical experience, also. But you need to know a basic knowledge of electricity (to avoid accidents) and you€ll probably need to use a soldering iron (probably the seller of the store where you€ll buy it can teach you how to use it).

Basic steps:

1) You need a joystick to dismantle (If you have a digital camera it€s a good idea taking pictures of the circuits, especially were each cable goes)
2) The most important components are the circuits, the cables that goes to the buttons and the 'potentiometers' (thanks guys!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif) and the ones that goes to the serial cable into your CPU. Any damage to those components could be a really headache.
3) The rest of the components are all replaceables. I went to a store specialize in electronic stuff with one of the potentiometers of the old joystick (to get a similar one) and bought three more. I also got 2 buttons, 3 knobs and a plastic box (total cost aprox. 10 U$S).
4) With a drill I made the holes in the plastic box to place the new potentiometers and the buttons. After that I place the knobs over the potentiometers sticks.
5) Then I weld the cables from the circuit to the new components placed in the box (It`s very important to remember the function of each cable http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif)
6) And finally I plug the serial cable, went to the control panel of Windows > Game Devices and configured It as a new device with 3 axes and 2 buttons.

In my next project I€m going to take pictures step by step and they will be post in the Hardware modification forum http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Arm_slinger
02-25-2006, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">someone say potentiometer in queens english and record it as mp3. i gotta hear it. round here its ah, as in ha only backward.


Its "om" as in Cromwell (not Crahmwell) or like bomb (not Bahmb) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pronunciate the "ah" and you'll sound Irish http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MLudner
02-25-2006, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Taylortony:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BaldieJr:
in english those are called potentiometers. Poe-ten-she-AHHH-meter.


Or in Queens English Poe-ten-she-OOOOH-meter Old Chap </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


As an American I do not recognize royalty and therefore do not use the "Queen's English", just English.

poh-ten-shee-AH-meter.

So there. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Haigotron
02-25-2006, 11:12 AM
thanks a million cyberwings! can I use a gamepad instead of my joystick for the spare parts?

ploughman
02-25-2006, 11:20 AM
Here Mludner, this should help you in with your monarch spotting.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/078062565X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

NonWonderDog
02-25-2006, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">someone say potentiometer in queens english and record it as mp3. i gotta hear it. round here its ah, as in ha only backward.


Its "om" as in Cromwell (not Crahmwell) or like bomb (not Bahmb) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

'round here in Yankeeland, we'd say Crahmwell and bahmb. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Don't even ask about the Canadians.

ploughman
02-25-2006, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by NonWonderDog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">someone say potentiometer in queens english and record it as mp3. i gotta hear it. round here its ah, as in ha only backward.


Its "om" as in Cromwell (not Crahmwell) or like bomb (not Bahmb) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



'round here in Yankeeland, we'd say Crahmwell and bahmb. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaved Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaahd? Boston?

NonWonderDog
02-25-2006, 02:51 PM
Metro Detroit. The local accent is about 50% Canadian.

Hmm... I'm reading "ah" as in "AHH-CHOO!" or "aardvark," not "alimony." We really sound nothing like Boston.

ploughman
02-25-2006, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by NonWonderDog:
Metro Detroit. The local accent is about 50% Canadian.

Hmm... I'm reading "ah" as in "AHH-CHOO!" or "aardvark," not "alimony." We really sound nothing like Boston.

More like Wisconsin? I'm just trying for some kind've handle here, the only Detroit sound I know is Motown, and I'm guessing you don't sound like Boney M.

triggerhappyfin
02-25-2006, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by CyberWings:
First I want to thanks Bearcat99 and everyone that contribute in this post: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/7211046783
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
It was the inspiration that I need to destroy and old joystick and then build a trim system with some of the parts.
To tell you the true I wasn€t sure if it was going to work (that€s why I didn€t destroy my X-45, yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) but to my surprise It works perfectly fine. Trimming and aircraft has never been easier. I have to tell you I really enjoy building something new to use it in this simulator. I think we need a Hardware modification forum to share ideas, blueprints, etc.

This was the joystick, an old Quickshoot with 3 axes and 2 buttons
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/01.jpg

Crossing the point of no return!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/02.jpg

I had to buy a few components: new buttons and these (don´t know the name in English)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/potenciometro.gif

A little weld to join the cables
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/03.jpg

And finally a Trim system (I think now It€s time for my X-45... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Cyberwings/04.jpg

Again thanks to everyone and please post more hardware modification threats.
Anyone has blueprints of how to build a sim cockpit?

This looks pretty much like my "trimbox" but I´vre got four buttons and my rudderpedals attached to it too.

You´ll find it handy! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

Willey
02-25-2006, 04:59 PM
RBJ would be proud of you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Haigotron
02-25-2006, 08:10 PM
triggerhappy, did u follow instructions? where can i start? any site any leads?

I really want to make a trim wheel box...but i have zero experience with electronics...i have a useless gamepad...can that be used?


any site would help thanks!

coturnix
02-26-2006, 04:12 AM
Here is mine:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/coturnix/IMG_1147.jpg

CyberWings
02-26-2006, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
thanks a million cyberwings! can I use a gamepad instead of my joystick for the spare parts?

I`m not sure but I think a gamepad has only buttons. They work closing the circuit each time you press them.
I don´t know if replacing those buttons with a potenciometer that is a variable resistor could work. If it does you would be able to transform a button switch into an axis control. Can`t someone comfirm if that is possible?

triggerhappyfin
02-26-2006, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
triggerhappy, did u follow instructions? where can i start? any site any leads?

I really want to make a trim wheel box...but i have zero experience with electronics...i have a useless gamepad...can that be used?


any site would help thanks!


A pic that explains how to connect pots and switches to the gameport


http://www.flightsim.com/howto/diy/Image%2018.jpg

Ome skill in soldering is needed but thats quite easy to learn. The game pad doesnt have any potentiometers in it and as those are needed to give axis input the game pad isnt really usefull for this use.You can however get a lot of switches by using the inmates of the gamepad.

One of many useful links (http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/howto/diy/index.htm)


Link on potentiometers (http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/potentiometers.htm)

Sokol__1
02-26-2006, 09:31 AM
Higotron, a Big Salute for your device. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AFAIK - For basic gameporte device you dont need the joystick circuit (however use one facilitates the connections, and have a male DB15 conector) - all "eletronics" do you need still inside your sound card/mobo.

Basically gameporte accepts:
4 axis
4 butons (possible to decoded in 14 no simultaneous with a matrix of diodes)
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3323/gameporte4rp.jpg

For those that he doesn't have gameporte, a good start point is a 'El Cheapo" USB joystick, whit 3/4 axis, 4 buttons and HAT (more 4 buttons).


Anyone has blueprints of how to build a sim cockpit?

Does he like FW-190?

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4025/1902tq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://www.checksix-forums.com/showthread.php?t=121928

A generic WWII pit, whit a lot of good ideas:

http://www.serafimov.com/public/phpBB2_2/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=106


Sokol1

CyberWings
02-27-2006, 11:02 AM
A generic WWII pit, whit a lot of good ideas:

Thank you Sokol1 this is what I was looking for.
Anyone know how this switches can work as buttons? For example to turn the engine on, or the cockpit lights.
http://www.serafimov.com/dimoni/paneldrchoa.jpg
Switching them on and off is not te same as pressing a button because the "on" position would be like constantly pressing the same key all the time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Sokol__1
02-27-2006, 02:41 PM
CyberWings

Dimoni cockpit use X-KEYS controler, that allows
toggle swhitchs.

An option is to use momentary switch, type ON-OF-ON, but is possible use toggle switch, whit some mecanical tweak (dificulty), or eletronics whit relay, like this:

http://show.imagehosting.us/show/1168240/0/nouser_1168/T0_-1_1168240.gif

The good place for this tips is in Flight Simulator comunity, like:
http://www.flightsim.com/

Another example, IL2/FB/PF doesn't allow to control the mixture through axis, but with two switchs and a 'clotherspin' it is possible to put this command in a lever (it continues in increments of 0,10 ...110).
http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=29;t=001726#000000

To control many news switchs/keys u need a dedicatet controler, like USB keyboard circuit (noot to pratical), USB controlers (noot too cheap).

Cheap and ease to built option: Today the paralel port of PCs it is not used, this less expensive LPTSwitch board allows about of 60 buttons:

http://www.checksix-forums.com/showthread.php?t=121962
This in French, but whit Google Translator it is comprehensible. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Happy D.I.Y.

Sokol1

Haigotron
02-28-2006, 03:37 PM
thank you everyone for your wonderful schematics!

Im gonna get busy trying to build this puppy!

Im glad there are ppl i can turn to for help with these things!!

thanks again

rnzoli
03-01-2006, 03:05 AM
There is so much useful information is collected in different threads like this. Some weeks and this thread sinks as well. I don't think we can get our HW mod forum, or a sticky thread, because these issues interest only minority of forumers. However, the situation is quite similar to the dedicated servers, and they have a thread where they collect information and links as a starting point.

Maybe we should also create this hyper-thread and link all useful HW modding sub-threads from there. The reason why IL2 more HW-mod demanding is the need for superior accuracy, constant trimming and a flight model that needs both hands and legs busy all the time.

mmitch10
09-05-2006, 02:33 PM
Nice job, CyberWings. I'm trying to build a trim box myself, and have searched a few threads like this. Some suggest I need 10k linear potentiometers, some say 100k. Any idea which I should go for or does it depend on the stick I've just pulled apart? The stick I'm using as the basis of the trim switches is a cheap "Game" branded one I pulled apart now I've got my Saitek Evo. Thanks to everyone else for all the advice too!

mortoma1958
09-05-2006, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by horseback:
'Variable resistor'.

cheers

horseback Actually it's only a variable resistor if you wire it using one of the end terminals and the middle terminal, leaving the other end terminal unwired. If you use all three terminals in a circuit ( and do it correctly ) it's wired as a potentiometer. But really in everyday lingo you can call it a potentiometer or a pot regardless. Hard to explain all in one post. In most joysticks, in fact they are wired as a variable resistor, where only two terminals, the middle and one end are wired up.

In the electronics trade, one that is not in a circuit unused is always a pot. The only time we call it a variable resistor is if it's in a circuit wired as one. Wired as a variable resistor in a circuit, you are varying the resistance and therefore the current of some branch in the circuit. Wired up as a potentimeter, you are using it to vary the voltage "potential" at some given point in the circuit, not the current.

So in this introductory ( and geeky ) electronics lesson, we can see that a potentiometer can be used to vary either voltage or current depending on how it's wired.

mmitch10
09-05-2006, 03:11 PM
Another question, Cyberwings. The potentiometers for the joystick axes kind of centre at the middle point (these will be elevator + aileron trim) but the throttle potentiometer just goes from zero to maximum. How do you "centre" so that when it's half way across, rudder trim is centred and not, say, half way to the right? Or will this become obvious when I calibrate it? Appreciate any help.

DuxCorvan
09-05-2006, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by DaimonSyrius:
Ahora en serio, cojonudo... y admirable http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Jovencito, o deja usted de decir cochinadas, o llamo a Iván para que le lave la boca... con jab³n! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Besides, your number of posts (666) looks a quiet disturbing right now... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

knightflyte
09-05-2006, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by DaimonSyrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
Or in Queens English Poe-ten-she-OOOOH-meter Old Chap
English being only my <STRIKE>third</STRIKE> fourth language, I can take the liberty of calling that 'proper English' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
No need for me to be P.C. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Cheers,
S.

*Edit*fourth rather than third, actually. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


FOUR!!!???!?!?? I'm still working on butchering my first language.

CyberWings
09-06-2006, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by mmitch10:
Nice job, CyberWings. I'm trying to build a trim box myself, and have searched a few threads like this. Some suggest I need 10k linear potentiometers, some say 100k. Any idea which I should go for or does it depend on the stick I've just pulled apart? The stick I'm using as the basis of the trim switches is a cheap "Game" branded one I pulled apart now I've got my Saitek Evo. Thanks to everyone else for all the advice too!

Mmitch10

I€m not an expert but I think what you should do is ask in the store where you are going to buy a new potentiometer for advice. That´s what I did, I took the potentiometer of the joystick I pulled apart and they gave me a new one with the same characteristics.

Regarding your other question all the potentiometers are the same, they goes form 0% to a 100% no matter if the are working as an elevator, aileron controller or just as the throttle. If you are going to use them as trims you should put the 50% position of the potentiometer where the neutral position of the knob should go.
Good luck!!

triggerhappyfin
09-06-2006, 11:43 AM
Any value between 10k to 100k will do. Using values above 100k result in sensivity for disturbance. Otherwise as long they are linear, they'll do.
I've changed my 270 degree pots to multiturn, prescision, pots. From 0-100% it takes full 10 turns http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif. This result in an awesome resolution in the trimming movement and a presicion hard to achieve otherwise.
http://www.order.conrad.com/xl/4000_4999/4200/4290/4292/429252_BB_00_FB.EPS.jpg


LINK (http://www1.conrad.de/conrad/layout2/search.fh?layout=layout2&fh_eds=%c3%9f&do_fh_search=1&fh_host=www1.conrad.de&fh_session=%2fscripts%2fwgate%2fzcop_b2c%2f%7EflN0 YXRlPTIzMzc3NDEzNDk%3d&fh_location=%2f%2fb2cconrad_de_b2c%2fde_DE&fh_search=potentiometer&fh_start_index=180)

justiceboy
09-06-2006, 12:01 PM
Awesome stuff, damn shame i got rid of my x36 stick and my old saitek Rumble stick, could have built a plane out of them, but now i know better.

I am sure i can buy them back from good will hehehe.
cheap probably about $2 or $3 will go check it out.

I am sure you could by all the spare parts you would need at a goodwill store, for cheap, garage sales as well.

and we really need that Modification forum

Great Idea and with the brilliance in these forums, Saitek might might run a bit slow on sales.

Steven190
09-07-2006, 06:34 AM
Has anyone done a USB trim box?

I do not have a serial port available and using a MSFFB stick.

This is a very interesting topic and there should be a section for it

Thanks

triggerhappyfin
09-07-2006, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by Steven190:
Has anyone done a USB trim box?

I do not have a serial port available and using a MSFFB stick.

This is a very interesting topic and there should be a section for it

Thanks

Look at this thread... (http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/3821084134)

Metalgear1972
09-07-2006, 07:06 AM
a bit off topic but ....pohtensheometer is a greek
word like almost any scientific word we use.

mmitch10
09-08-2006, 02:33 PM
Built me a trim box! Thanks, CyberWings and everyone else who answered my dumb questions.

Steven190, my box was built from a USB joystick but I just followed CyberWings guidelines. I bought 4 new switches and replaced the ones on the PCB. I replaced the joystick pots with new 10k linear pots (thanks triggerhappyfin) which work better than the original ones. Other then that, the wiring is all the same.

Been trying it out for about an hour now, don't know how I managed without one.

triggerhappyfin
09-08-2006, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by mmitch10:
Built me a trim box! Thanks, CyberWings and everyone else who answered my dumb questions.

Steven190, my box was built from a USB joystick but I just followed CyberWings guidelines. I bought 4 new switches and replaced the ones on the PCB. I replaced the joystick pots with new 10k linear pots (thanks triggerhappyfin) which work better than the original ones. Other then that, the wiring is all the same.

Been trying it out for about an hour now, don't know how I managed without one.

Nice to be to some help http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif How are feeling about having a trimbox?

mmitch10
09-10-2006, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by triggerhappyfin:

Nice to be to some help http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif How are feeling about having a trimbox?

Well it hasn't changed my life http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif But it makes aiming and flying long missions easier. If I'd known how simple it was, I would've done it ages ago.