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TugZooey
06-25-2004, 11:09 AM

TugZooey
06-25-2004, 11:09 AM

johann63
06-25-2004, 11:18 AM
lordy with so many varients its hard to keep track

the original is often just I-L-2


but now with all the updates I see allot of just

AEP

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jeroen-79
06-25-2004, 11:25 AM
I L Two Sturmovik Forgotten Battles Aces Expansion Pack Two Point Zero One

S 8
06-25-2004, 11:35 AM
I said ill-two,but if I not mistaken the narrator in the video I have say I-L Two.Recently I heard that BAR is pronouced as B-A-R.I used to just say BAR.(speaking of nothing) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

IL2-chuter
06-25-2004, 11:39 AM
So how about that Honda (BAR) team, eh? And will Williams ever get out from under their curse. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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VF-17_Jolly
06-25-2004, 11:39 AM
eye-ell-two

stir-mow-vick

four-got-en

bat-ells

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LStarosta
06-25-2004, 12:16 PM
So, how 'bout them Packers?!

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Chuck_Older
06-25-2004, 12:24 PM
It ain't 1337 speak, it's the abbreviation for the plane manufacturer...so, just like Jay-Yoo atey-ate, Bee-Ef wun-ow-nyn and Eff-Dubbleyoo wun-nyntee, the name is Eye Yell Too

the def russkies weren't rapping the ill two, y'all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


IL is the abbreviation for Ilyushin, just like Bf is for Bayerische flugzeugwerke. You don't say "Beef" when you say the Bf 109's name, do you? I don't care how many cool kids on the internet call it "Ill two" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif they are still goofs

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LuckyBoy1
06-25-2004, 12:26 PM
Pronounce it any way you like, just don't call Oleg and / or the moderators...

son-of (censored by the Social Circle GA, U.S. Committee To Prevent Dancing)

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oFZo
06-25-2004, 12:33 PM
Eel Two Ef Bee

'Cause I guess Ilyushin is pronounced Eelyoushin.

"Bf" is taken from Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (IIRC), two words, therefore "Bee Ef". Ilyushin is one word so "Eel"

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TugZooey
06-25-2004, 12:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TugZooey:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
It ain't 1337 speak, it's the abbreviation for the plane manufacturer...so, just like Jay-Yoo atey-ate, Bee-Ef wun-ow-nyn and Eff-Dubbleyoo wun-nyntee, the name is Eye Yell Too

the def russkies weren't rapping the ill two, y'all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


IL is the abbreviation for Ilyushin, just like Bf is for Bayerische flugzeugwerke. You don't say "Beef" when you say the Bf 109's name, do you? I don't care how many cool kids on the internet call it "Ill two" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif they are still goofs

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lol Chuck_Older,
when i say ill two I was never thinking yo ill two or any elite speak ****. More along the lines of how people would call the Navy SEALS the "seals" and not the S-E-A-L. But calling the bf's beef is classic.

edit: and I know IL2 is not an acronym like SEAL btw http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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sambar
06-25-2004, 12:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
It ain't 1337 speak, it's the abbreviation for the plane manufacturer...so, just like Jay-Yoo atey-ate, Bee-Ef wun-ow-nyn and Eff-Dubbleyoo wun-nyntee, the name is Eye Yell Too

the def russkies weren't rapping the ill two, y'all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


IL is the abbreviation for Ilyushin, just like Bf is for Bayerische flugzeugwerke. You don't say "Beef" when you say the Bf 109's name, do you? I don't care how many cool kids on the internet call it "Ill two" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif they are still goofs

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well, you can call it whatever name you want: black death, flying tank, eye-al-two...

From the other side of view it was developed, built and flown by soviet people and they call it "ill-two" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

sambar

crazyivan1970
06-25-2004, 12:45 PM
AEP http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

V!
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TugZooey
06-25-2004, 01:04 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
AEP http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

V!
Regards,

Is that pronounced "APE?"

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_VR_ScorpionWorm
06-25-2004, 01:04 PM
I-L-2 is what I called it, so it is pronounced on Discovery Wings,....then just Forgotten Battles, now just AEP.

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Flakwalker
06-25-2004, 01:16 PM
e-l dos http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Udidtoo
06-25-2004, 01:50 PM
I pronounce it fun as in Ph-un.

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Chuck_Older
06-25-2004, 04:20 PM
I may be joking a little in previous posts in this thread about 'leet speak and so on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



If Russians call it "Eel", then that's what they call it. All around the aerospace community, in my experience, it's "Ef-Yoo dash for" not "Foo-for" for a Corsair, "Ay-Aach sixdee for" for an Apache helicopter not "ahhh sixdee for", and "UFO" is not pronounced "Yoofo" even though the dots are left out of "U.F.O.". An FM Wilcat isn't a "Femm" Wildcat and a P-51 or an F-4 Phantom isn't a "Puh fifdee wun" or a "Fuh-for", it's a "Pee fifdee wun" or an "Ef-for".

I guess that's because I speak English and we recognise abbreviations differently?

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Mescof1
06-25-2004, 04:35 PM
My father-in-law is Russian. Fought on the Russian Front. He is 80 years old and lives in Chicago; came to United States in 1952.

I asked him how to pronounce Sturmovik, and he said it like Schurmovik; there was no T sound and the emphasis was on the mo.

He was born between the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea in Southern Russia. I'm sure different regions have different ways to pronounce the names. But this is the way he said it.

I finally got him to play me a game of chess. He took my Queen after I took his rook on his 8th rank. I left my Queen there one move too long.

He sat back in his chair and laughed and said; "Ha, Ha, you play chess like Nazi, move to far in Russian Territory and no place to go."

Mescoff

maxim26
06-25-2004, 04:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
I may be joking a little in previous posts in this thread about 'leet speak and so on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



If Russians call it "Eel", then that's what they call it. All around the aerospace community, in my experience, it's "Ef-Yoo dash for" not "Foo-for" for a Corsair, "Ay-Aach sixdee for" for an Apache helicopter not "ahhh sixdee for", and "UFO" is not pronounced "Yoofo" even though the dots are left out of "U.F.O.". An FM Wilcat isn't a "Femm" Wildcat and a P-51 or an F-4 Phantom isn't a "Puh fifdee wun" or a "Fuh-for", it's a "Pee fifdee wun" or an "Ef-for".

I guess that's because I speak English and we recognise abbreviations differently?

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are absolutly right. We pronounce abbreviations differently, as one word. And "t" is pronounced in word Sturmovik.

Philipscdrw
06-25-2004, 05:42 PM
Do you say 'ay-en-twotwofive' or 'an-twotwofive when referring to the Antonov An-225?

Or 'Tee-yu-two' or 'Tu-two' for the Tupovlev Tu-2?

And do you pronounce Pe-2 as 'Pe-Ee-Two' or 'Pey-two'?

As Il- is abbreviation of Ilyushin, I think Il-2 is pronounced 'Eel-two'. For Eel-yu-shin.

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Chuck_Older
06-25-2004, 05:55 PM
Ah, but how do you say, "Mr."?

Do you say "Mister" or do you say, "Mur"? In English, in any case I can call to mind, either the letters of the abbreviated word, or the full word is pronounced while the letters are written. How would you say the name of Her Majesty's Ship, Bounty?

"Aach Emm Ess Bowntee", or "Humsiss Bowntee?"

Would you say Yoosay, or USA?

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Philipscdrw
06-25-2004, 07:31 PM
Chuck, are you talking to me or the 'eye-ell-two' crowd?

HMS is an acronym of Her Majesty's Ship. Therefore HMS is pronounced H M S, as it is an acronym not an abbreviation.

BF, FW, MiG are acronyms, so are pronounced as seperate letters. Me, Il, Pe, Tu, An, are abbreviations, so are pronounced as words.

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ElektroFredrik
06-25-2004, 07:42 PM
sturr-moe-vick
When being formal I put a
eye-ll-two before that other

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Chuck_Older
06-25-2004, 07:56 PM
Phil-
Sorta talking to both

I'm just asking though. How would you say "Mr."

It's so alien to me to say the letters of an abbreviation as a phonetic expression that it fascinates me. I can see the points being made, but "Mr."...or "USA" okay, acronyms maybe have a differnt feel, but "Mr" isn't pronounced "Murr".

State names are another good example...MA is the abbreviation for Massachusetts...but it's not "Mah" when you say it (I've been in the biz so to speak) it's "Em Ay". Pennsylvania isn't "Pah" it's "Pee Ay", California isn't "Cah" it's "See Ay". New Hampshire is NH but it isn't "Nuh", but then again it's two words....Oklahoma is one word and it's abbreviation is "OK" but you don't say it "Owk". Just like my earlier example of the AH-64, it's not an "Aah sixdee for", if you want to restrict it to aircraft.

Maybe folks in the Yoo Ess just pronounce the letters individually by habit and it's different elsewhere http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Then there's the question of 'if the Russians call it "Eel two", why do we (I) say it wrong and still do not accept that?' http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Well it's because I have been interested in and involved with aircraft for a long time and personally, when clients from the manufacturer came into my old job to discuss the procedure for the F-18 SuperHornet parts we made, it was never called the "Fah ate-teen Eeef", it was the F/A-18 E/F, pronounced "Eff Aay ate-teen Eee Ef" and when we talked about the F-18 it wasn't the "Fuh ate-teen".

Could be, with our tendency for single letter designations, we never even think about pronouncing it phonetically, so it is never Fuh-15 or Fuh-14 or Puh-51 (I can't think of a word besides PeePee that has a hard "P" sound that we say http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif)

But it's interesting to think that such a simple thing is so different depending on where you are.


But the real kicker for me is:

On the IL*2:FB ACE CD jewel case...both "I" and "L" are capitalised, which to me automatically means that both letters are pronounced, instead of it being pronounced as it reads phonetically. It's just a rule of English as I recall, that if two letters are capitalised, it's not a word, it's two letters

But as I see it now, I couldn't really fault anyone for calling it "Ill-two"

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tagTaken2
06-25-2004, 08:12 PM
Definitive answer? What the h%ll do the Ilyushin people call the plane... as in the correct Russian pronunciation? Phonetically, please... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif

IV|JG51Flatspin
06-25-2004, 09:17 PM
Well as an English speaker with Russian language training I mix it all up and call it: I L Two Sturmovik...though I'm positive it should be Shturmovik looking at the spelling on the Russian box.

As for which syllable to emphasize, don't even bother asking a russian speaker as the Russian-born language professors I've known will debate to the end of the earth which syllable to emphasize in many russian words.

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Bluedog72
06-26-2004, 04:21 AM
I allways called it I.L.2.

But come to think of it, why then dont we call the Yaks 'Why Ay Kay'?
Afterall, is Yak not short for Yakovlev? Just as IL is short for Ilyushin?

Franzen
06-26-2004, 04:30 AM
Oh goody! Another eye elle too 4 got 10 ba toalz pole. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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XperiAnce_ZA
06-26-2004, 05:04 AM
Ahahahahahaha!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

This thread is brillient!!!

Anyways, I say what rolls off the tounge easy.
Like "Eye-al Too" for ILII
And "Bee-ef (not beef http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/93.gif) wun owe nyne" for BF109

The one that really got me was Sturmovik. I pronounce it "Stcherm-o-vick"

And the rest just call by what they are ingame, iff I see a PE-8 I say "Pee-eee-ate" ect...

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06-26-2004, 05:43 AM
IL2(I Like 2) FB(Fly Bombers) AEP(At every party) patch patch patch... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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06-26-2004, 06:09 AM
FB2.0 for the AEP....... or FB.
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John_Pimlott
06-26-2004, 07:48 AM
The Cover Disc of Mar/Apr 2003 PC Pilot magazine has a video with Oleg, who appears to pronounce it I-L-2. So I went with that...
Warm regards.

maxim26
06-26-2004, 09:04 AM
OK, Guys. If you really want to know, i can record mp3 and post it here.

Just tell me what names do you want to hear. Wright it the way it's written in English language.

IV|JG51Flatspin
06-26-2004, 05:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maxim26:
Just tell me what names do you want to hear. Wright it the way it's written in English language.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I want: supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

and: WYSIWYG

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Flightvector
06-26-2004, 05:37 PM
MiG?? Every historian I knew in the US said "mig" like a word, not "M-I-G" since it stands for "Mikoyan and Gurevich."

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Atomic_Marten
06-26-2004, 05:50 PM
Sturmovik.(I spell it like like Germans do).
Sometimes Iljusin Sturmovik, but only Sturmovik will do. I embarass myself once in the store with incorrect spelling, so I simply ask for "Sturmovik, latest version please..." http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dolemite-
06-26-2004, 05:58 PM
I refer to: IL-2 Sturmovik, IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles, IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles-Aces Expansion Pack as just, "IL-2"

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Philipscdrw
06-28-2004, 04:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Just like my earlier example of the AH-64, it's not an "Aah sixdee for
"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, AH-64 is an acronym of Attack Helicopter 64, hence Aye (Attack) Haitch (Helicopter) Sixtee-Fore.

But I've generally said Pey-two, Bee-Eff-109, Too-2, migg and Em-Iy-Gee interchangably,

Actually, for me anyway, I would pronounce I L 2 as Ile-2, and Il (as Ilyushin) -2 as Eel-2.

So this thread is loosely about the difference in Ile and Eel.

Ile is the gap between the shelves in the supermarket.

Eel is a type of long snake-like fish.

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