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GatorGuy88
07-26-2007, 02:17 PM
Picked up a copy of Das Boot today (finally), but I was a bit confused. I found the book not in the WWII section, not the history section, but in fiction! This makes me so mad; for one I rarely read fiction since I find it to be useless. But moreover, isn't this a true story based on eyewitness accounts? I cannot figure out for the life of me why this appeared in the fiction section. Mabye it was just that bookstore; any thoughts?

Celeon999
07-26-2007, 02:24 PM
Well, maybe their ww2 section applies only on history books. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


Das Boot is indeed a semi-fiction novel. Its loosely based on the author's (Lothar-Günter Buchheim) experiences as war reporter aboard U-96.

I could give you an example but as you propably havent read it yet, i would never dare to spoiler you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Goose_Green
07-26-2007, 03:03 PM
You will enjoy this book, it's an excellent read http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

You can even get Das Boot as a bridged audio book which is on 6 CD's and narrated by Wolf Kahler, who played the German officer in the Raiders of the Lost Ark film.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/Goose_Green/IMG_0836.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/Goose_Green/IMG_0840.jpg

GatorGuy88
07-27-2007, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
Well, maybe their ww2 section applies only on history books. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


Das Boot is indeed a semi-fiction novel. Its loosely based on the author's (Lothar-Günter Buchheim) experiences as war reporter aboard U-96.

I could give you an example but as you propably havent read it yet, i would never dare to spoiler you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

thanks Celeon for not spoiling it; but I just found something on the first page that makes me even more confused. Before the book starts, it says "this is a novel but not a work of fiction." (P.S. Please don't provide me with an explanation if it'll spoil it!) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Celeon999
07-27-2007, 01:46 PM
Lets just say that he took some tiny bits and pieces from voyages on other u-boats than U-96 into the storyline. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

When you have finished the book or looking the movie we can discuss this further http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Realjambo
07-28-2007, 01:31 AM
You can even get Das Boot as a bridged audio book which is on 6 CD's and narrated by Wolf Kahler, who played the German officer in the Raiders of the Lost Ark film.

I have this too, and agree with Goose, it's great for long car journeys (Just be ready for the Thunder clap during the storm!)

AtlantikEel
07-28-2007, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by GatorGuy88:
Picked up a copy of Das Boot today (finally), but I was a bit confused. I found the book not in the WWII section, not the history section, but in fiction! This makes me so mad; for one I rarely read fiction since I find it to be useless. But moreover, isn't this a true story based on eyewitness accounts? I cannot figure out for the life of me why this appeared in the fiction section. Mabye it was just that bookstore; any thoughts?

<span class="ev_code_RED">The book was in the fiction section because it is fiction: the crew and the u-boat in the story are made up, but the story is based upon the author's experience aboard U-96 for one voyage.</span>

From the U-96 page on u-boat.net:

The "Das Boot" (The Boat) Connection
Lothar-Günther Buchheim joined U-96 for one patrol as a war correspondent. This resulted in the internationally best-selling novel of submarine warfare Das Boot (The Boat), the short story Die Eichenlaubfahrt (The Oak-Leaves Patrol) and a three-part text-and-photo chronicle U-bootkrieg (U-Boat War), U-Bootfahrer (U-Boat-Men) and Zu Tode Gesiegt (Victoried to Death).
Buchheim was ordered aboard as an official artist to send back renderings of the German Navy in action for propaganda purposes. A camera was to aid his work. Over 5,000 photos survived the war and 205 of these form the epic photo-essay U-Boat War. All the photographs in U-Boat War were taken by Buchheim with the exception of a few taken by U-96 engineering officer Fritz Grade.

Buchheim witnessed the chance of meeting between U-96 and U-572 during heavy storm. This probably occurred in November 1941. U-572 departed on 29/11/41, a few days after U-96 (see the mission details below). At this time U-572 was commanded by Kptlt. Heinz Hirsacker (who was condemned to death by military tribunal in 1943 charged with "Cowardice in the face of the enemy" - the only U-boat commander to have that fate, being executed on April 24th, 1943. U-572 was lost later in 1943).

He also wrote the book Jäger im Weltmeer (Hunter in the Ocean) and in 1995 he published the novel Die Festung (The Fortress). Here Buchheim writes about the last days in the port of Brest, France and his dramatic Schnorchel voyage to La Pallice with the last but one U-boat to leave Brest.

Buchheim's books are controversial because, particularly in his photo essays, he writes very disapprovingly about the U-boats and especially about Admiral Dönitz. (Refuting Buchheim, Karl-Friedrich Merten wrote a book entitled Wir U-Bootfahrer sagen: "Nein! So war das nicht!" [We U-boat men say: "No, it wasn't so!"] )

<span class="ev_code_RED">Though it is fiction, "Das Boot" is probably the best submarine novel ever written. </span>