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MrBlueSky1960
01-30-2006, 09:34 AM
to model this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/MossieDM.jpg

MrBlueSky1960
01-30-2006, 09:34 AM
to model this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/MossieDM.jpg

georgeo76
01-30-2006, 10:24 AM
preemptive whine; nice

Airmail109
01-30-2006, 10:27 AM
and my mossie better like be able to do a billion miles an hour whilst laden with bombs and rockets like 5 foot off the deck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

crazyivan1970
01-30-2006, 10:30 AM
Or else? Right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

luftluuver
01-30-2006, 12:44 PM
A 464 Sqd Mossie.

JuHa-
01-30-2006, 12:56 PM
A hit from flak and 6ft of the wing is gone - I can dig that.

Philipscdrw
01-30-2006, 01:05 PM
I want the Mossie with caterpillar-tracked undercarriage!

mhuxt
02-01-2006, 03:05 AM
The presence of stub exhausts, instead of shrouded saxophone exhausts, on that mossie is almost as exciting as its ability to withstand damage.

BGs_Ricky
02-01-2006, 03:36 AM
How many Mossies that suffered similar damage did NOT come back ??
Let's not forget that for one of those heavily damaged aircraft that made it back, a lot ended up burning in field....

Just to let you know: The Mosquito is the plane I have been waiting for the most since I saw the first pics of the 3D Model http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif been waiting for a Mossie since FS:SDOE.

luftluuver
02-01-2006, 03:55 AM
True Ricky but the Mossie was one tough bird.

Now bombers are not fighter bombers but....

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-12/1114844/BoCoLosses.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-12/1114844/MossieLosses.jpg

SeaFireLIV
02-01-2006, 03:56 AM
MrBlueSky1960, most times in reallity, a Mossie WOUL NOT return home from that. THAT`S why the picture is there as that particular incident was highly unusual. There are many conditions, including, pilot still, weather conditions, actual internal structural damage and LUCK that played a part here. You can`t just grab a unique picture then expect that everytime half a Mossie`s wing is shot off you`ll just fly merrily home to base.

You can find a picture like this for just about EVERY SINGLE warplane in WWII, usually just one of its kind (maybe 2). Imagine if Oleg made every plane not drop till it looked like one of these? The whole air scenario would look ridiculous; loads of half-wing, half-fuselage, blown open cockpits of variuos aircraft still merrily flying about because someone like you showed Oleg a picture like this. The only time you should survive an incident like the above is if the conditions (and your sjill) were right.

This is the sort of whine I see for a lot of fan planes, and though i`m no aeronautical engineer, I do understand and don`t expect any realistic aircraft to always survive that kind of damage.

I also don`t like whines before the actual aircraft`s arrived. It`s a good thing I`m not oleg, cos anyone moaned to me about my artwork before they`ve even seen it and they`d get nothing. Oleg must be commended for his thick skin.

p1ngu666
02-01-2006, 04:06 AM
mossie was a tough bird.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
02-01-2006, 04:14 AM
Looking forward to fly the Mossie - and also to shredd the wooden bird. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JG5_UnKle
02-01-2006, 08:05 AM
The sortie/loss statistics are impressive.

Shows what you can get away with at high speed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The.Tyke
02-01-2006, 08:12 AM
" Stirling 3.81% " the biggest losses.

My Dad used to fly Stirlings, I'm lucky to be here !
And yes, I am well under 60 ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bearcat99
02-01-2006, 08:22 AM
Or else you wont fly it right.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
02-01-2006, 08:23 AM
Well, the loss rate was quite high, then in 1943 it "only" had a loss-rate of 8%. A year later it was almost 10% again.

LEBillfish
02-01-2006, 08:31 AM
I've seen pics of B17's/24's/25's, A20's, SBD's, Avengers, BF110's etc. etc., on and on like that and worse that "made it home"

Truth be known my bet would be they took a hit yet were so busy piloting at that point did not suddenly panic losing control (as I've run accross many accounts where what saved the people was simply missing due to some reason the initial surprise....as that often resulted in an unrecoverable loss of control).

More so......It would often I'd "as*ume" take an exceptional pilot...NO LONGER in harms way where they could baby the plane along.

So it would not be limited to the Mosquitoe....However, since you are demanding.....


I say 1c should NOT release the Mosquitoe till they have resolved the possibility to do this.....Hold it back for a couple of patches while they work out the DM & FM, naturally not releasing it till in fairness all other planes we currently have have the ability as well.


Hope the last paragraph helps your goal MrBlueSky http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

ploughman
02-01-2006, 09:46 AM
Gosh, look. Snow.

snafu73
02-01-2006, 10:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MrBlueSky1960:
to model this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/MossieDM.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It looks like the sneaky Germans have parked a Goliath under the wing as well!... the swines.

ploughman
02-01-2006, 10:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by snafu73:
It looks like the sneaky Germans have parked a Goliath under the wing as well!... the swines. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing phases the Australian flyer, there was a Ju-88 in the glove compartment as well.

anarchy52
02-01-2006, 10:47 AM
I'm all for realism

http://marvin.kset.org/~riddler/collision.jpg
http://marvin.kset.org/~riddler/109_damage.jpg

Bremspropeller
02-01-2006, 01:06 PM
n00bs !

http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-photo-vf213-06l.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

ploughman
02-01-2006, 01:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bremspropeller:
n00bs !

http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-photo-vf213-06l.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Click on this.

http://kg.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/f15.jpg

You will not be sorry.

Bremspropeller
02-01-2006, 01:16 PM
I knew someone would bring on that IAF/DF F-15D sooner or later http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I accept my defeat http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BTW: the pics on the LEFT are fakes, the rest of it is true http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ploughman
02-01-2006, 01:20 PM
Oh, is it a 'dramatisation' of the incident sort of thing. That's a shame. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

WTE_Ibis
02-01-2006, 01:21 PM
The lufties meinengeschloss will need to be changed. To kill these tough bird they'll have to load their cannons with white ants.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Bremspropeller
02-01-2006, 01:22 PM
Never heard of "termite" rounds ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

HayateAce
02-01-2006, 01:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
The whole air scenario would look ridiculous; loads of half-wing, half-fuselage, blown open cockpits of variuos aircraft still merrily flying about </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, you mean like the 4.02 bs109?

Nice.