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RickRuski
01-25-2011, 06:44 PM
Have just noticed a link to art work on above item, there is a notice on the "Box" bottom right hand corner "Internet connection required for activation". Have I missed something or does this mean "No off line Play".

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http://www.tothegame.com/boxsh...p?picnum=uk&id=12690 (http://www.tothegame.com/boxshot.asp?picnum=uk&id=12690)

Chivas
01-25-2011, 07:07 PM
I believe its just a one time deal when your installing the game on your computer. Then you can play offline all you want. We're just not sure yet.

K_Freddie
01-25-2011, 10:41 PM
"Internet connection required for activation" traditionally meant a once off activation, but we don't know if UBI (or publishers) have swindled the english language so that 'activation' means every time you play. UBI is french based you know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

We'll require 1x guinea pig for the activation experiment, and the results will determine the profit or loss margin.

We'll see......

panther3485
01-25-2011, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by RickRuski:
Have just noticed a link to art work on above item, there is a notice on the "Box" bottom right hand corner "Internet connection required for activation". Have I missed something or does this mean "No off line Play".

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http://www.tothegame.com/boxsh...p?picnum=uk&id=12690 (http://www.tothegame.com/boxshot.asp?picnum=uk&id=12690)

Lots of games require activation over the Internet these days. It has nothing to do with offline play. If a game is designed with an offline campaign (which I'm sure will be the case with CloD), then you'll always be able to play it.

CrazySchmidt
01-26-2011, 04:29 AM
What it means Ruski, is that they will scan your hard drive and realize that you are running a ripped off version of every UBI and 1c creation ever made since the birth of Christ (which I'm sure are anyway, with a name like that who would trust you sucking up to the red beast!!).

My advise to you is... Do not purchase, do not install, take yourself off to a dark solitary corner of the room, sit down with your knees tucked up under your chin and suck your thumb while muttering "Canvas Knights will not hurt me the way IL-2 is..."

It'll be Ok mate... it'll be Ok.

CS. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

kleaneasy
01-26-2011, 01:39 PM
As things stand I 'think' the game requires you to connect during activation only after which point you're free to play offline. However this is among some questions we've put forward and hope to confirm clearly, and very soon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

saipan1972
01-26-2011, 03:23 PM
oh man, flash back to sh5

blairgowrie
01-26-2011, 03:30 PM
I think you are jumping to the wrong conclusion saipan1972. I believe it will be a one time activation. I think SH5 was a bad experience for UBI as well as those who bought it.

WTE_Galway
01-26-2011, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by panther3485:

Lots of games require activation over the Internet these days. It has nothing to do with offline play. If a game is designed with an offline campaign (which I'm sure will be the case with CloD), then you'll always be able to play it.

Actually not true. My FSX regularly deactivates itself and its a huge hassle for me to get my games machine online so I just do not play FSX.


There is an incredible amount of arrogant "everyone that matters is online these days" bullcr@p amongst online gamers. Many people with a busy real life are not online. In fact with the rise of iphone and blackberry even some people who formerly had broadband at home for social network reasons are no longer bothering.

However a one off activation is generally seen as "acceptable".

After all, it is usually possible to move a machine temporarily to a internet connected location or borrow a wireless modem temporarily to do the activation.

One off activation is annoying but not a huge issue.

RickRuski
01-26-2011, 06:07 PM
Never mind "Crazy" it will all come home to roost when you fall off the ladder while we are painting your house. Then while you are being carted off to hospital in the ambulance I will rush down and steal your graphics card. Or maybe just take my ladders back home before you call in "OSH".

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Urufu_Shinjiro
01-26-2011, 06:59 PM
WTE_Galway, I'm not trying to be rude or some sort of online elitist, I'm genuinely curious, why does your gaming rig not have an internet connection?

ElAurens
01-26-2011, 09:09 PM
Huh, and I thought I was a Luddite for not having a cell phone.

WTE_Galway
01-26-2011, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
WTE_Galway, I'm not trying to be rude or some sort of online elitist, I'm genuinely curious, why does your gaming rig not have an internet connection?

Actually I do not have any internet at home at all. My day job is in IT doing server admin and network support so I have plenty of net access during lunch and after hours at work, don't need to bring it home with me.

My step daughter moved back home for a little while (she moved out with boyfriend at 15 and by 16 and a bit was back home) and she had a wireless modem while she was here. But that was close enough to no internet anyway it was hopeless.

Ba5tard5word
01-26-2011, 11:13 PM
I've never seen a game that had a "one time only" internet activation thing.

space_bandit
01-27-2011, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
I've never seen a game that had a "one time only" internet activation thing.

I thought most did this, you enter a serial code and away you go.ARMA II does this.

Ba5tard5word
01-27-2011, 01:11 AM
Oh well if that's what you mean, then yeah that's fairly common though it's only recently that they require you're online when entereing the CD key.

panther3485
01-27-2011, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panther3485:

Lots of games require activation over the Internet these days. It has nothing to do with offline play. If a game is designed with an offline campaign (which I'm sure will be the case with CloD), then you'll always be able to play it.

"Actually not true. My FSX regularly deactivates itself and its a huge hassle for me to get my games machine online so I just do not play FSX."
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you read my post, you'll see I was talking about offline play, not online play. So in my own experience - and I've installed and played a heck of a lot of games offline, a good number of which had to be activated first - it's perfectly true. My statement refers to what happens after activation, and after said single activation I have never once had a problem.

As for FSX, I've had that for a couple of years and have never encountered the problem you describe here either. In all that time it has NEVER "deactivated itself". http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif



Originally posted by WTE_Galway: "There is an incredible amount of arrogant "everyone that matters is online these days" bullcr@p amongst online gamers. Many people with a busy real life are not online."

Oh, I agree totally. My son plays online sometimes, but I almost never do. Offline is usually more than enough satisfaction for me.



Originally posted by WTE_Galway: " ... One off activation is annoying but not a huge issue.
...which is pretty much what I was trying to say. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

mortoma
01-28-2011, 08:46 PM
I have a downloaded version of IL2 1946 from D2D and I have to activate with a serial number every time I install it. It's about the same for COD probably and it's no big deal to me.

jarink
01-29-2011, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
Actually I do not have any internet at home at all. My day job is in IT doing server admin and network support so I have plenty of net access during lunch and after hours at work, don't need to bring it home with me.

I do similar work. How on earth do you get by without being able to RDP to your servers in the middle of the night? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Back on-topic, I'm OK with a one-time activation. The main worry there is if CoD is as long-lived as IL2 has been/will be that the activation servers will remain online and working for at least the next 10 years.

K_Freddie
01-29-2011, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by jarink:
The main worry there is if CoD is as long-lived as IL2 has been/will be that the activation servers will remain online and working for at least the next 10 years.
This is the crux of the matter.. UBI current SH5 DRM is not working 24/7, and to keep this going for 10 years.. is laughable, and most certainly will not happen.
OK! so it does happen, eventually UBI will make a decision to 'cut it' as it's no longer viable... there goes your game.. bye bye. I still occasionally play the old starcraft games from blizzard (the new ones are just anime cr@p) This lot is over 10 years old already and I can play it anytime coz ..IT'S MINE http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

kleaneasy
02-03-2011, 06:20 AM
I suspect you guys have already seen this in the other threads I've posted or possibly at IC but just in case.

One time online activation
Tages DRM with 5 activations and one install per month

Hope that addresses any concerns any of you had http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG52Uther
02-03-2011, 09:59 AM
If I buy the download version,can I back it up on a disc with this 'Tages'?

amarok1
02-03-2011, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
I suspect you guys have already seen this in the other threads I've posted or possibly at IC but just in case.

One time online activation
Tages DRM with 5 activations and one install per month

Hope that addresses any concerns any of you had http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And what is after these 5 activations?
I must by a new one of CoD?

kleaneasy
02-03-2011, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:
If I buy the download version,can I back it up on a disc with this 'Tages'?

I'll find out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Originally posted by amarok1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
I suspect you guys have already seen this in the other threads I've posted or possibly at IC but just in case.

One time online activation
Tages DRM with 5 activations and one install per month

Hope that addresses any concerns any of you had http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And what is after these 5 activations?
I must by a new one of CoD? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You get a new install each month, so unless you have any specific install issues you should have plenty of activations, and where there are any install issues Iím sure support could help

Raggz67
02-03-2011, 11:33 AM
I work with games but never heard the term "new install each month".


Could you please explain just what this "new install each month" is?
Does it mean we get 5 new activations each month?
If i have to reinstall the game 2-3 times in a month i can't do that?
I have to wait a month to reinstall?
Can i revoke the license when i uninstall to prevent using up the activations, as we can in other game titles?

Reinstalling a game several times in a month is common when using or testing mods. Especially for mod makers. yeah, i know about backup but sometimes thing's still becomes a mess.

I'm getting real frustrated over ubisofts ways of protection schemes that doesn't benefit the customer at all and i'm getting more and more reluctant to buy games stamped ubisoft. I already skipped several titles. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

Sorry if my questions sounds stupid but i want an official clarification so none of us get's a slap in the face when we actually buy the game.

And please, Support?... Don't even go there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Fox_4
02-03-2011, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by ms-kleaneasy:
I suspect you guys have already seen this in the other threads I've posted or possibly at IC but just in case.

One time online activation
Tages DRM with 5 activations and one install per month

Hope that addresses any concerns any of you had http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

How is the existence of this DRM in IL-2: CoD good for:

- The customer?
- The developer?
- The publisher?
- Anyone at all, in fact, other than Tages?

Not shooting at the messenger here, btw, kleaneasy... I would really like an answer from anyone at all who can offer one. I mean it. This DRM doesn't make any sense.

Urufu_Shinjiro
02-03-2011, 01:49 PM
Actually this DRM does make sense. It gives the user plenty of leeway to allow for normal problem solving by reinstall, i.e. plenty of activations, but does prevent piracy in so far as you can't put one copy and code up and have 100's of people activating it a day. Now whether the pirates crack this in ten minutes is another story, but it seems this will be relatively painless for the consumer.

M_Gunz
02-03-2011, 02:23 PM
If you could run an activated backup then the whole process is a charade.

Is there any way I could just send Oleg money as thanks and support? Then I don't have to spend $500+ to upgrade.

VW-IceFire
02-03-2011, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
I've never seen a game that had a "one time only" internet activation thing.
Command and Conquer Red Alert 3 and Starcraft II instantly spring to mind. One time activation... well per computer anyways.

Fox_4
02-03-2011, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
Actually this DRM does make sense. It gives the user plenty of leeway to allow for normal problem solving by reinstall, i.e. plenty of activations, but does prevent piracy in so far as you can't put one copy and code up and have 100's of people activating it a day. Now whether the pirates crack this in ten minutes is another story, but it seems this will be relatively painless for the consumer.
A couple of things I disagree with there.

- Fundamentally, I would say that it *doesn't* make sense. "Whether the pirates crack this in ten minutes" isn't "another" story, it's THE story. It washes away the whole idea of there being any practical usefulness, to anyone, of this DRM being implemented.

- "Relatively painless"? Why shouldn't it be 100%, unambiguously, uncompromisingly painless? Yes, I'm objecting to the principle of it.

Wtornado_439th
02-14-2011, 05:35 PM
It's simple.It means most people playing in the
hyper lobby will actually have to buy the game
instead of copying it.